incriminating information. some of the president's advisers are concerned mcgahn's statements to the special counsel could be key, if the team, the special counsel team, is building a case based on the series of the president's actions. >> i want to bring in my panel. doug burn, former federal prosecutor. christine quinn, vice chair of the state democratic party. so doug, so much to get to. so "the new york times" says it wasn't until saturday when trump's legal team opens up their "new york times," they see the story and realize they don't have a full accounting of what don mcgahn said to the special counsel. what? >> no, it is property yes amazing. it's like a football coach, as dumb as that might sound. run the ball or pass? meaning they decided early on, okay, ty cobb and the other counsel for trump. >> john dowd. >> i'm sorry, john dowd. we're going to go in, open policy, et cetera, because