like yourself about the mueller investigation and that it's not collusion, collusion in and of itself wouldn't be the crime. it's the conspiracy to impact the election. do you think that is what the southern district is investigating when it comes to the hush money payments? do you think that's what they went in looking for? we know from the day of the raid that's one of the things they were looking for when they seized items from michael cohen's homes and offices. >> well, look, they were probably looking for the whole mother load of financial miss deeds that they found. but they also found this point and i can't say strongly enough, john is so dead-on here. the second defense of team trump now is, oh, a technical campaign finance violation. that makes it seem ministerial. it's the exact opposite. it gives rise to the watergate comparisons. what cohen says in court -- by the way, it's not in the information. he made a point of saying it. not only was it at the direction of trump, but it was for the