we asked after we heard some of those stories whether he stood by his testimony. his lawyer said yes. but it seems like mr. cohen is now willing to perhaps tell all to mueller. i understand to our committee, so my hope is we will have a chance to have him back and ask him about that, the trump tower meeting, ask him about the attempt to try to build a trump tower ain moscow that he was involved in. and one of the more critical questions which his lawyer alluded to, that he has knowledge that mr. trump knew of the russian e-mail hacking and potentially was coordinating some of that release. i don't know what to believe. again, when you're talking about cohen and mr. trump in terms of both of their willingness to tell the truth, you get into a fairly shady area. >> hey, would you be willing to give him full immunity to testify before the senate intel committee in an open hearing? >> we have not granted immunity to anyone. my understanding is that at