>> mike schmidt, the creator as far as we know of the mueller investigation and the coauthor of today apartments piece of work by "the new york times." mike, thanks for staying up with us. we know it's been a long day. thank you for being on the broadcast again. let's go to our panel to start off, and that would be frank. frank, tell me how it is that mr. stone can rightfully contend that he has taken and passed a lie detector test? tell me how it is he can contend with such surety that he was never in touch with any russians on the other side. >> well, a lie detector test is garbage in, garbage out. so, the questions have to be the right questions. so, if you're paying for your own lie detector test, you can pay for the right questions to be asked, and you have the right answers to those right questions. if the examiner is asking you, did you ever talk to anyone at wikileaks, and the true answer is no, you're okay. you can say no. but he's not asking you the questions that really matter, like, were you in contact with the russians who were in contact