not as in the know and they mainly only have him on the relatively low level crimes involving the taxable fringe benefits. >> and i know we've just been showing pictures of mr. culinary who looks like a bodyguard because that's where he was when he started working for donald trump. and the report is indicating that mr. culinary was advised by the prosecutors to get his own lawyer. he apparently showed up for some encounters with the prosecutors with trump lawyers and they have now advised him get your own lawyer. what does that indicate? >> that's not uncommon when companies make the mistake of sending the same lawyer to either represent or at least appear with particular executives or individuals. prosecutors do not like that because talking to this witness is the same is talking to the ceo of the company where donald trump the owner. so they like to be able to at