F. T. Won more votes from eastern germany than any other party how does that make you feel as an eastern german who has fought against a right wing extremism for years explain what can. And its an appalling result that makes me very sad. But we shouldnt speak only of the eastern germans. The difference between east and west to the f. T. Is relative. To the a if d. Has also grown very strong in bavaria and bought and driven back there twelve percent of men and even more in eastern germany. Everywhere in eastern germany thats right. And first we must Say Something obvious and is that. The voters themselves are always to blame. They carry the responsibility for home the electorate and voters in germany could know whom they were voting for and even then because the f. T. Is already represented in a number of state parliaments especially in eastern germany where its done nothing constructive he just made hate speeches high party is fragmented but that didnt interest the voters obviously they wanted to vent their anger their disappointment and their protest and thats why they went for the f. T. One hundred stuff they also say. Isnt it a little too simple to say the vote to stop the bleeding dont the democratic parties including the social democrats bet some of the blame that the f. T. Has entered several state politicians. Im merely saying that its become customary for fish that to excuse the voters and to drip with the sympathy when speaking of people who know very well what theyre doing have voted for a party that oscillates between conservative right wing populist right wing extremist and racist extremists if thats his say show then we cant exonerate them one can view the fight until then we have to talk about what theyre angry and disappointed about. The total good instead we should do that doesnt fit and that brings us to the many problems we face. When i first in eastern germany have to do i think the severity and radicality of the experience of a people ive experienced or feared unemployment. And if you for that some also a feeling of disadvantage. Because Living Conditions in east and west are not equal and i dont say this is a reproach its really a sober reality but there is more to it its also a problem everywhere in germany and in europe. From a death before the election of right wing populist six presses a fear of change fears of being alienated from ones homeland in the face of dramatic changes we call globalization open borders of refugee immigration thinking. Many things that unsettle anger and outrage people and lead them to articulate these fears and that brings them to the right wing extremists the right wing populist. Basically refugee policy and dissatisfaction with refugee policy has made the strong let me ask about the other parties responsibility again it has long been foreseeable that there would be this coming to movement in waves if the established parties simply concur for too long the chancellor Angela Merkel solitary decisions im for who make it harder. And that would be too simple because then wed have to talk about the alternative. Ill say it again of course the fear of refugees is an important motive. Its to hit the sun but its interesting that far fewer foreigners live in eastern germany and far fewer refugees have arrived there and yet support for the a. F. P. Is so strong with the get expenses on there is no direct correlation to them theres an indirect connection. And ive called that the fear of change fear of loss fear of alienation from ones country they worry that what people are familiar with will be laws a deep feeling of insecurity although many many people are doing quite well materially. When we see so many of the voters in dresden ballots and in garlands and receiving the same time with the good these cities looking that a lot of good things have happened in the last twenty five years but its unjustly distributed and not everyone is equally happy about it and people subjective judgment of their situation contradicts the objective situation of many people and from feeling mention of even the money let me explicitly know once again that were not talking about a specifically german North Eastern german problem because right wing populist parties are succeeding all over europe and in france belgium holland italy poland and elsewhere. So the challenge clearly has to do with the dramatic changes we call globalization i think that the end of boundaries in the world the acceleration of development. Even digitalisation which we now talk about and which has begun makes people feel insecure is that no one knows how our economy and industry will change or what peoples working biographies will look like in the other but youll get a feel good with this Technological Progress lead to more unemployment were in the middle of a phase of dramatic change that creates insecurity all over the world in europe and also in germany and eastern germany. Leura president of the bundestag lets talk about the office toscan challenge of the point is talk president now that there are right wing extremists right wing populists in parliament what does the bundestag president face what would vulcan shoaib a do in a Plenary Session if for example Alexander Gallin says well hunt down this is magical. Because its i think its a tightrope walk its been to the bonus tax rules the rules of order but also the rules of parliamentary decency apply to everyone equally. We shouldnt focus especially on the f. T. But it forces the rules equally on all and thats a duty of the president s office and the president in particular that. We have to ensure that the bundestag and the german public dont jump through every hoop and react to every provocation of. Their thing that merely gains the a. M. T. Attention tough at the same time we must also contradict them and apply the sanctioning tools there are many of them when suddenly the attempt is made in parliament to paralyze parliamentary work through endless debates on the rules of order or when things disintegrate into name calling and racist utterances from belied you would have in the us is in such a case the president and his office must use the instruments from morning for a reprimand to exclusion from the session or even from a longer period of sessions that some. Some of them a plaintiff in a negative side and just said you shouldnt jump through every who do i understand you to mean that you are against the bundestag altering its rules of oda so that if the speaker a senior president doesnt preside when the new bundestag opens. That be a trick that you would oppose. If it. Other this is. A scene that happened a half a year ago and if and the background is very understandable thats the style of people who are worried that the new bundestag would be opened by a speaker from the a. F. P. Who is a professed holocaust denier. The German Parliament didnt want to give this public world wide impression. My understand the motivation well and will always have to Pay Attention and not accept everything they f. D. A. Does just because they were elected. And veges being elected does not justify political swinish nice to put it bluntly. When you say you dont respond to every provocation but consider very carefully where one intervenes how should the federal president respond to provocations disguised as expressions of opinion for example when one praises the role of germanys of damage in World War Two all questions germanys relationship to his rail hog and his him of them doesnt mean that the hopi to the point is to contradict the substance of such utterances into thats the task of all the other democratic parties to contradict them very decisively very soberly and very clearly and thereby say to the citizens and to the german and the world public. This is the position of extreme outsiders who are represented in parliament but who cannot claim to be able to win a majority in germany in any way that will be one of the tasks in parliament to always show publicly what can garner a majority ahead what the basic democratic consensus is that keeps this republic this democracy afloat and what lies far outside of the consensus was also thought through its been now in a row of discussion is beginning among the parties about changing germanys immigration policy. So its a great opportunity to take the wind out of the f. T. Sails on them as it were and we have to remember that after chancellor. Americas decision to open their borders and she later changed refugee policy herself for americans and basically she rescinded her own statement will let them all in by making great efforts to close the borders again. In cooperation with the social democrats yes yes im merely saying to close the borders. I believe all the democratic parties agree that immigration must be limited and regulated. The social Democrat Party for example presented a draft bill on immigration five a year ago that initially the christian democrats and the Christian Social Union rejected it. Well see what agreements come out of the coalition to go she has a lot of it but well have to regulate things we have to clearly distinguish between the subsidiary right to asylum to temporary refuge for people fleeing war and regulated Legal Immigration to germany that is why this task has been clear for quite some time so far its failed because of the c. D. U. And c. S. U. But we have to address it now and im fairly sure we will succeed and his ability is and we always conclude our talk with our three incomplete sentences and request that you finish the danger that the right wing populist if these voted into the next bundestag as well cant be ruled out could depend on how Democratic People act. In the opposition my social Democrat Party. Team will have to work hard to avoid remaining in the opposition over a long Term Government and become capable of governing again. Until the balun war has fallen in the minds of eastern and western germans it will still take you know the wall is gone there are lots of differences west and east north and south young and old city and country rich and poor of a few we shouldnt keep speaking retrospectively of this wall in peoples minds its really not that bad despite all the differences island. Volved anticipate thank you very much for this talk youre welcome. To the w. s Program Guide to the highlights. The whole. Dot com highlights. When im traveling i like to be comfortable