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Transcripts For DW DocFilm 20240714

Have achieved nothing. What do the relatives of those who died in a to attack say. And i was at the pool this summer and lying next to me on a towel was the man who killed my mother. I see him all the time was. Dispersed and there. Were in bilbao the largest city in the Basque Country. Relatives of 8 of prisoners are waiting for a bus that will take them to the jail where their loved ones are being held. 221 prisoners are held in facilities all across spain far away from their families. For years the relatives have been demanding. The prisoners be transferred to the Basque Country particularly now that no longer exists. Its those he. Travels once a month to visit her partner. That josie makes the trip with her mother in 2 children her partner is in prison and caught his province about 1000 kilometers away in Southern Spain. The couples relationship began as pen pals while he was already in jail she conceived her children with him there. Get a better fiancee and that is but at least. Thats how i met him its always been like this the restrictions and the distance have been part of our relationship from the outset its become routine for me and with the children i hardly have time to think about it you have no idea how exhausting these trips are until they one day come to an end. Its like i have 3 children to take care of my 2 kids and my partner follows me just yet. But so is his partner was arrested in 2008 charged with involvement in the murder of a basque businessman and sentenced to 44 years in prison that zazi considers him a freedom fighter. Only 78 or prisoners are being held in the Basque Country. 89 are imprisoned within a radius of 700 kilometers and 125 have been sent to jail that are up to 1050 kilometers away. Its enough amounting that the policy of scattering the prisoners around the country is clearly directed against the families we have to make a real effort to visit them. But the bottom line is that theyre still in jail it doesnt matter where it would be a lot easier for us if the prisons were closer to the Basque Country. The trip takes 15 hours the buses transport prisoners relatives to various facilities around Southern Spain some of the buses have been involved in road accidents. 16 family members have been killed while travelling to see prisoners. Rather be. Given the no even notice how you cant imagine all this unless youve done it yourself but a bit of that is our fault when people ask you about it you just act like everythings ok but its not this is hard work and he wears you out so much for me were just the family members i chose my partner but my children didnt choose their father. And other families its the fathers or the mothers or their sons theres nothing we can do about it. But we are paying the price and we dont understand why for the rest of the west the one thing that. The next morning after 15 hours on the road its those iraq is at the high security prison near the city of contis. The bus stops only briefly to let them alight at sos he is tired and she has several appointments today with her partner. Were not allowed to film inside the facility. Like almost all 18 members its partners held in top security imprisonment subject to strict conditions including solitary confinement hes allowed to spend just 4 hours a day in the prison yard. At 7 30 in the evening at sos he returns from her visit. She was allowed to spend the last hour alone with her partner the children and her mother are waiting at the bus on the side of the road one knows what i mean only its difficult but so are other relationships in the distance and the restrictions on communication are hard but i think we still have a healthy relationship we try to give our children as much love and affection as we can and make maximum use of the Time Available im happy and ive never regretted my decision not for a moment and. I. For more than 50 years later fought for an independent basque state killing hundreds of people. In may 28th the organization officially announced that it would disband and apologized for its actions. But many in spain dismissed the move as just a propaganda ploy. To had already declared a cease fire in 2011 at that time 559 members were still in prison. Their current number is about half that a growing number of prisoners have been released after serving their sentences. Its june 28th. Because partner will be released later in the day after completing a 15 year jail term. Her son spent the night in a hotel nearby and they plan to meet her partner when he gets out. There regularly. But were leaving right now to pick up and we were going to wait for him outside the prison but then he called and said hed already been less house so were off the last few days have been really stressful. Im in a very im a little less nervous today but its coming back now. Weve been waiting for him for 15 years thats a long time you saw him with his hands. At the age of 23 and diggle a hard saying he was involved in riots that were said to have been started by a time. He said some Bank Machines on fire. The authorities called it politically motivated vandalism but the actual charge against him was cooperating with a terrorist organization. Areas. Oh my god. Yourself just leave the car here i. Think yeah. I think youre better you say hello by kicking me. Let me remember you me a case where you can with all the assume. That this. Was there. Was no it. Was. Really im so happy right now. Im definitely going to need time to process all this. There are just too many emotions all at once. Everyone. In the northeast almost past Political Prisoners spend a lot of time in solitary confinement was just 4 hours a day in the yard sometimes less. So im overwhelmed to see all these people today and but ive used a lot of. My girl will get up but i cant find my emotions right now i didnt think it was going to be like this. I thought id cry but i havent reacted properly yet i cant figure it out i see him here in the parking lot but i still cant believe it no one ok i. Was. On the one hand im extremely happy. But im also still concerned about my calm. Would have to stay behind bars for years to come its hard for them and for their families. And eco wants to raise awareness of the eta members who are still in prison. There are some representatives here today from a shelter an association that campaigns for the rights of the prisoners. Theyre also here to shoot some videos in the parking lot. That. Have. Started i guess people hang up this fact to symbolize our demand that prisoners in a fugitive should be allowed to return home is better has disbanded. Our group except the times have changed and to has acknowledged the suffering that it cost the medical. Class were now cooperating with the spanish judiciary. Well see whether the government is prepared to ease prison conditions. That. This is and because hometown al gore to. The local residents are preparing to welcome him back. Former president as are celebrated as heroes by many in the Basque Country almost half of the men who are still in jail have not committed Violent Crimes their families say the lengthy prison sentences are a form of retribution. For what i want but i want the laws against a tower designed to serve as a deterrent. A 15 Year Prison Sentence is much too harsh for another if you committed the same crime in Seville Court or bought a os youd get a milder sentence. About it if you were going to win for your. Past Political Prisoners are systematically persecuted the people here today are celebrating because for one person to suffering is over. So many are ours and we dont want to offend. Anybody. But this is like a holiday for us that yes the 51. 00. Many basques who lost friends or family members and attacks say the celebrations are an insult to the memory of the victims. Consuelo orgone as is president of the victims association. In 1995 her brother was gunned down here in the city of san sebastiano. She herself was threatened and had to leave town. Since then consuelo has rarely returned to sons of us tionne shes still haunted by the loss of her brother. Gregorio was 37 years old when he was killed. He was the citys deputy mayor and a member of the conservative Peoples Party he was an outspoken opponent of asia and its political wing. Is that i dont they they murdered my brother and outside a bar on the street and the f. A. I dont. Think are standard or a terrorist shot him in the back of the head and. Gregorio left behind a wife and a child. Many were outraged by his murder and not only in the Basque Country. It was a bloody era in which carried out such crimes on an almost weekly basis. Consuela says that even though a to has despondent its political ideology is still widespread and a lot of people respect the organization. Shes also skeptical of demands for the et a prisoner is to be transferred to jails in the Basque Country look at me then ask if they want the prisoners to be released and they ask why they were sent to jail in the 1st place they believe that they were killing ideological enemies. If every prisoner promised to renounce violence wed have no problem with them being moved to the Basque Country but they wont do that. And hell say its a red line for them they have no regrets about it. For decades it has murderous Armed Struggle terrorized the Basque Country an estimated 830 people were killed. In the last murder took place in 2009 and nearly 40 percent of these crimes have not yet been officially salt. Consuela believes that many former aide to members and their supporters simply want to forget the past. Is coming to them is they just want to turn back the clock like Nothing Happened like we see it every day at the celebrations for the prisoners who have been released. With them and that have. Their children in those crowds and they learned early on to respect these terrorists who have blood on their hands. And to be proud of what they did that. This creates really dangerous conditions for the future. The time for. The people of al gore to welcome andy kelly harts ag as a victim of spanish revenge justice. Many of the young people attending the celebrations today were not even born when he was sentenced to prison. You know i got out today but many of us are still behind bars and until all of them come home we have achieved nothing. Offering up. Thank. You i regret i i. The event culminates in a kind of ceremony in this bar where photographs of all local 8 of prisoners are displayed. Now that end because 3 his portrait is taken down. I might release the rest of them theyre going to wear yeah oh yeah. Meanwhile. Has returned from her visit to the prison. She lives with her parents near bilbao. United for then. Who is that for. Like many relatives of the prisoners and says he hoped that after the end of the conditions of their imprisonment would be relaxed. Her partner still has 40 years to serve hes made several appeals to be transferred to a jail closer to his family all have been rejected. That if they dont come here every time we make concessions the authorities put up new obstacles. Ended the arms struggle and then the government demanded that they surrender their weapons. Started to do that the government then ordered the organization to break itself up and ask for forgiveness and theyll probably come up with more demands. It so these mother had a hard time dealing with the fact that her daughters partner would be in prison for decades having to be oh i didnt like it at 1st but its her life after all and i have to support her because she couldnt do all this by herself besides hes a nice guy i cant complain. That says hes partner the father of her children is an intricate part of the family even though he has never lived with them hes in jail more than 1000 kilometers away and i saw only one and thats the pictures arent great because they were taken in prison but one but they mean a lot to me they represent the few moments that we were able to spend together so my daughter loves her father a lot. Weve. Got a lot. Of families out of out 5. My daughter knows that her father is in prison because he fought for an independent basque state. And that we have no idea when hell be released. She hasnt asked me a lot of questions about it. If she wants to know more one day shell have to ask her father. And that is that. You know no i dont think about the future i live from one day to the next hell be in prison for the next 40 years so i cant think about the future. Lets just wait and see how things turn out. In bilbao father on hell maria has been working for years to try to bring the victims and perpetrators together including their respective relatives. The aim is for the 2 sides to try to understand each other. Let us pray. Father help us to show mercy and compassion. Toward us along the path of peace so that your will may be done here on earth. The want to. Do something good. And you know. The end of it opens up a new chapter we have to build on the situation cautiously but with determination. If youre going to these developments explain why many basques are now calling for the prison restrictions to be east because it are no longer exists. With your new ok yeah i know. Theres a thing. Here father was wate meets with relatives of victims. And hernandez lost her husband. Will say that his father. And even ramos his mother when they discussed the governments policy on 8 are prisoners. Jeff i must point out is that what should we do with the present us if you dont ask me i cant make a decision like that and i dont have any authority. Because this seems like ive always said that the prisoners should be transferred and those who are seriously ill can be released. Because neither im going to write the policy of scattering the prisoners all over the place makes no sense. To me its just more punishment for the relatives. And did violates the basic human rights of the family. Were not on the letter to all of us familiar. But the fact that more and more prisoners have now been released and have returned home is a major challenge for the victims relatives and you know. A lot of it all was at the pool this summer and lying. Next to me on a towel was the man who killed my mother. I see him all the time but i try not to pass the hatred to my son. I would never tell him that this man murdered his grandmother. You know in any case its still hard for me to see that man every day. He will. Benefit. More and more of the prisoners will be released after theyve served their sentences i think that everyone deserves a 2nd chance. But i hope that theyll take a long hard look at themselves and gain some insight. And de calais articulate never killed anyone so theres no chance that he will have a confrontation with the relatives of a victim. Hes been out of prison for 10 weeks now. After 15 years behind bars hes learning again how to make decisions for himself. Still and honestly not the only one so far i havent noticed any permanent psychological damage from my time in prison. Ive been quite lucky that. I have a partner a family and friends who support me when. Can we know whats on we were not. And deacon is still adjusting to life outside of prison right now hes studying for aptitude tests with a view to finding a job in the Public Health service. As an ex prisoner he has better prospects to find work there then he would in the private sector. But he cant stop thinking about the other prisoners and struggle for independence. And i spent 15 years of my life in prison. Time i did a lot of thinking. Out of that was what i did. I think it was worthwhile to find for an independent state for a better society. And it was a political conflict and it still is and until we come up with a political solution the conflict will continue. No longer exists but can the supporters and opponents of the organization learn to live together in peace. It would mean former members having to show true remorse and the relatives of the victims having to learn to forgive. I wish that we could find a solution it wont happen overnight but if we want to live together and move ahead with the Peace Process both sides will have to come together and try to understand what everyone has gone through. 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