Clear that europes position is irelands position so i made it a but also you know Boris Johnson almost saying were not going to bring back a hard order it will be europe its useful that the ones who are doing this not us lets hear some of what mr johnson had to say over the last 15 minutes or so. Yes of course i think there is ample scope to do a deal and be sprained i think pretty clearly what needs to happen we need to remove those elements of the of the Withdrawal Agreement that simply dont work for the u. K. Ive spoken of the things that i think sensible the protections of the rights of e. U. Nationals be the backstop that particular arrangement which i do think has grave grave defects for a democratic country so every democratic country like the u. K. That plainly has to go but once we get rid of it if we can change it. Then i think there is the real prospect of making progress very rapidly so thats why. I think forest wising this issue that bedevils everyone Boris Johnson there talking very optimistically the chancellor merkel also talking optimistically about seeking a solution with the backstop is only there if we dont find a solution as you said well well all work very hard to find a solution even getting one perhaps within 30 days and see if she did. She mentioned that i thought you mentioned that in passing i mean everyone seems to be holding a to doing this in 30 days q think the program more progress can be made in the next 30 days than was made in the lab and has been made in the last 3 years since the brevity of what exactly is free is and its not like the Civil Servants on both sides have not been working hard to try to find a solution Boris Johnson theyre clearly saying that it was his predecessor to reason mays government to perhaps didnt look at this seriously enough but he was asked when hes talking about you know what can replace the backstop why he keeps talking about these alternative arrangements most all of the alternative really wasnt very specific there was it was as if a nobody specific he just talked about some a report thats been done by one of his ministers pointed to that so he doesnt really know and thats just the problem great minds have been looking into this and so far they have not come up with a cost i in a way in which it will prevent or to prevent a backstop having to be there in the Withdrawal Agreement that is the issue. Alex Forrest Whiting didnt do bracks it unless the thank you lets bring into the conversation that they dont use the chief political editor. Who is there at the press conference in the german the chancery welcome michela what jumped out for you. Although there really isnt any kind of movement on the essential issue its essentially a yes or no question will that leading deal that breaks a deal be reopened or not and fundamentally what weve heard from Boris Johnson is that simply the backstop has to go and Angela Merkel in fact restating what she said many times before that saw the backstop can be overcome simply by finding a solution to the Northern Irish who also is safeguarding the good friday agreement something britain itself course johnson himself has restated just yesterday when he sent that letter to donald tusk the e. U. Council president who basically rebuffed him in a tweet saying well we need to see a constructive proposal on the table Boris Johnson was specifically asked about that and as you just discussed he wasnt very specific and what that solution could be saying Something Like there could be a technological solution to this well theres been a lot of debate how it could be done technically but to me the key issue seems to be political point scoring thats the bottom line will Boris Johnson be able to move e. U. Leaders to reopen the green meant he still says yes and Angela Merkel and the e. U. Brussels still says no. Approach to these talks obviously shes shes hosting the british Prime Minister so shes not going to turn around and slap him in the face but shes shes been very open very diplomatic very always talking about the fact that shes open to be persuaded shes open to hearing were hearing very Different Things from friends who are who are saying that they are preparing now for a no deal. When there can be no change from the the withdraw agreement under merkel being much more open while holding her line. Yes in fact ive been talking to advisors in the background in the past who said that in germany the patients and she endless when it comes to avoiding a heart breaks it from what weve heard out of paris from the french president in monterrey mark or so far that patient simply isnt at home in paris he actually was against perspiring the bricks in the 1st place asking kind of what for you need to know what you for spoiling it for and this once again seems to be the question here. Even we heard out of france today that potentially france would give person more time if it formed itself in a preelection period because that is important context here that Boris Johnson has away for thin majority in parliament right now he may well be heading for snap elections in the u. K. And that would then of course unsettle the political game once again so more open questions and still no answer on will he actually be able to push e. U. Leaders to reopen that exit that breaks that deal it still does look like it a good news for the chancellor though what the Prime Minister. Talking to his declaration that the rights if you citizens already in the u. K. Are absolutely safe and will be maintaining. Yes he made a point of trying to quell fears that this could hurt e. U. Citizens a lot of german citizens also being there into a tricky situation i just want to add that while those debates were going on in the u. K. Parliament when that breaks it actually failed to pass the parliament 3 times German Parliament was actually busy putting measures in place to safeguard the rights of british citizens so no doubt you also heard it from the 2 leaders very lips today once again that both countries. Share a close friendship share common values and also want to have very close ties in the future so a lot of contradictions here and stay with us. Chief Political Correspondent as we hear some of what chancellor merkel had to say today. Backstop has always only been a last resort we dont need this last resort and were saying we might find that agreement in the next 2 years but how much will find it in the next 30 days why shouldnt we know that would take a big step forwards and we have to pull all the stops out and make sure we manage to do it however this does work on the assumption that we have clarity about the future relations between. The u. K. And i think this clarity is emerging. The chancellor appeared to suggest 38. 00 maybe well do this in the next 30 days and theyre after everybody seems to be taking that as some sort of deadline presumably berlin does not think that solving the backstop will be that easy. Nobody thinks that it will be easy but were simply not seeing any movement on solving that right now and thats why this backstop issue is still on the table now if both sides with work to actually find a solution in the next 30 days that would actually potentially be a way out of this but still there is no workable proposal on the table from london and clearly brussels and berlin seen before in Forrest Gumps in court on that right now and what should we read into the fact that mr johnsons 1st foreign visit as Prime Minister is to germany. Well recognition that he needs friends in europe no matter what kind of breaks that there will be i think its also a point of him demonstrating that he is talking to everybody this could potentially hes also been accused actually by british commentators also politicians here that what hes doing is trying to make sure that he spreads the blame in berlin paris and brussels for a potential hardbacks it which according to a leaked paper in britain would put britain in a very difficult spot there was talk also medical sources even of food supply problems and that thats that could already be part of his campaigning there so a lot of question marks over what his actual motivation is right now as he is heading into an uncertain future here in germany there seems to be a mixture of fascination and almost disgust actually amongst Many Political actors here on what is going on in britain that this Prime Minister could potentially actually risk what is seen as a mess both for britain and for the e. U. But most of all for london and briefly clearly bracks it is an issue that is consuming enormous amounts of political band with in the u. K. How big an issue is this in germany. Its seen as a problem but its not seen as a crisis if that happens. In berlin succinct as ever thank you so much final word to you alex whiting. What has Boris Johnson got from this at this stage. So people that. Could kill the. Very strong that they will leave the u. K. Leaving the such 1st of october but also that he is prepared to negotiate in some way as long as the box office for me and that is the problem that we keep coming back to the irish boxer. Forest watching thank you so much for your insights you are not going to do company over the last hour or so for us watching the state of the. List just a reminder of our top story this story british Prime MinisterBoris Johnson in belgrade for talks with german chancellor and. 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