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DW Reporter July 13, 2024

We had our window at the very top almost over the corner. And all. And that looks like someone lived there now. When she lived here as a young woman how life was anything but private from the stairwell across the courtyard the east german state security watched her through a kitchen window. The tree was much smaller then. I was even dizzy did you see the stars the people standing there. I didnt know until i read it. That we never would have guessed. That they was telling him. They read about it in the star the file among the hundreds of papers are intercepted letters private mail official correspondence lots of informants reports. Even the ground plan of a loner im still close apartment. On april 30th 1980 7 am convinced observation at residents of this light was on in the kitchen and the window was half open so after 50 minutes the light went out saber left the apartment alone and proceeded on foot toward the summary to address the subway station. Noise at 7 pm the subject was not in the apartment a match stick wedged into the door was still in the place mentioned. Surveillance was then ended but then the control over that. It. Is a month had been my only someone was spying on my life and i had no idea what went in they described me as a person from their point of view it wasnt an especially friendly one. That left me with an unpleasant feeling. For years i wanted nothing to do with that i didnt even want to read it. For a start but i live with it absolutely its been my experience that you always get through better if you live with the circumstances. But not integrated into your life take it along and dont let it get to you and. Thats the only way for listening. Why were the 2 young women being watched so they had moved to east berlin from the countryside and found well paid jobs typist with noise and the official newspaper of the ruling socialist unity party ironic since they hardly toed the party line. Im glad i dont have to work here anymore this is so. Its worth the money its as if youre looking at another life this has had as if it almost had nothing to do with your own life now im yet to tell you its distant. Its not asked that was the 1st part of nostre lift id seen in my life and the 1st time i jumped on i panicked about jumping off again just because i thought it turned upside down at the top of the marketing head of the paper which still called itself socialist takes us around the building and down memory lane. And there was also mizuki where she killed herself and then are caught up in partial impersonal. Yeah she hired me for. Fired up. Using her maiden. And the loan as they decided to leave east germany they kept applying for exit visas its lifeline dec i doubt the credibility of the states now that ive had this little experience of how little human rights are respected in east germany that. Dear mr hanukah all these absurdities involved in processing an application for an exit visa or giving me more and more doubts about the system. Would quickly got around to the newspaper. As expected coworkers so closely tied to the party line had little patience for what they saw as callous disloyalty. We had become invisible. Nobody spoke to us anymore nobody greeted us we kept on working a little but we were treated like criminals dangerous criminals and that was pretty sad because we all got along very well before. We had not only worked together that partied together to. Eventually they were both fired from noise and their future prospects were looking bad not just professionally. Desponding been really span say but still living in the noise dont shine department the Personnel Department has told them to vacate the apartment as quickly as possible and look for work as the living space is urgently needed by the noise and going in printer to it. In fact they threaten to forcibly evict us on and we threaten to bring in a west german camera team for them so nothing happened. Off and party of the next. But this is this is it oh no end of horrors. That was here yeah that was here. But the system hit back and this official building. Had to yes it was really terrible here the 2 women were summoned here again and again for interrogation and nothing i was. God weve got a very physical feeling but no memory just a bad physical feeling like. Im getting butterflies in my stomach yeah yes not good not good at all god. Eventually the interrogation stopped. Today this is the home this administration building. Would be ministers its called it was down there by the next seating area at least thats the feeling i have. And thats what kind of feeling is that kind of not good. No not a good one not fun at all. Not a good feeling why do you want to go there. And you know i feel queasy somehow. And yes lets go there and i was like you have to return to the scene of the horror. But i feel really awful physically really awful i could just start crying or. Think go ahead and. And. I think it was down men not at the same. Thing im pretty sure here. Im sure to. Today they see the interrogations its extremely degrading. And goes all the way they greeted you was like yeah i can see right off that theyre tramps and in such a nasty tone of voice. That all the manner of the 2 applicants was insolent demanding and very arrogant. In mark the islands. You always had this fear that you couldnt go home and. Because youd be taken to prison thats how menacing it felt to us to look at all of us all and. So it was like what cheryl its enough just across the street wrongly we were everywhere such a massive threat its. Very member very well the names of the stasi offices. Called. Friends would you like to meet them again and i know. That that is not. Absolutely not there. And of course i wouldnt be able to hide how much i despise them and when i despise someone that i dont want to have anything to do with and. These events took place over 30 years ago. This one now the Stasi Records Agency has provided access to their files. For the 1st time the 2 women have talked to the Younger Generation about why they risked their briefing to get out to be stormy. And still i wanted out i didnt want anyone dictating that i live here even if it was socially equitable but we didnt want that and thats hainje brave enough to go ahead and act on it just as ministers to some of us most doesnt even know him for was common the fact that i couldnt get out that i could only go to a few countries that i was allowed to visit i just couldnt accept that i couldnt accept the way things were missed i mean and so i thought no i want out i want freedom laws its been if i had a look at all file desire for freedom almost landed her in prison but she found work and protection in a church community. Muses. About 9 months later i was through the application just. Because i married the pastor. I work but the pastor could only marry one of you right. Then have your belief and then i wondered if there werent other ways. I thought about marrying about gary and citizen and emigrating through bug area. But then i realized that my nerves and my strength were totally shot. And we werent living together anymore. So we couldnt support one another. Im not sure if that was the reason but i just didnt have the strength. Both of them withdrew their final applications at the start of the 80s. Had a baby and unexpectedly got permission to leave for the west. As the pastas wife zuko all fall was also allowed to go to school to stand what we been through an experienced gets there somehow it all paid off the safe and. So for me. It was my dream as a teenager was to see the world now i fulfilled it. Was. Clear. He wrote it. He passed it on. And he read it to the last. November 9989. 40 behind one of the most remarkable days in recent german history in a schabowski hes known for the night the wall came down. At 15. The a. Blood. After the fall of the berlin wall nov 9th double. Europe. What unites. What divides. The. Traffic. What binds the continent together. Suzanne stories aplenty a. Spotlight on people. Girls on t w. This. Wus live from berlin authorities in delhi declare a Public Health emergency as a small dog reaches record levels residents of the indian capital say the pollution is unbearable as schools are closed and half the citys cars are banned also coming up. As in germany for paris to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the fall of the berlin wall

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