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DW DocFilm July 13, 2024
Environmental damage caused by the farming industry has been on the rise in recent years. Animals are often mistreated. In germany a growing number of people want to see changes to
Agricultural Policy
but little has shifted could this be because of lobbyists in the
Agricultural Sector
are lobbyists more powerful in this policy area than in others. Our
Research Revealed
a tightly intertwined web of interests in which corporations influential figures manning several lobbying positions and politicians are closely linked a lot is at stake. During the making of this film billions of euros in agricultural subsidies were being negotiated in brussels and germany was under pressure to finally impose stricter limits on the amount of liquid manure used on its fields. Who is. Pulling the strings behind the scenes. At. Brussels farmers and conservation groups from across europe are protesting outside the headquarters of the
European Commission
to call for a change in
Agricultural Policy
they collected 100000 signatures for a petition demanding subsidies for farmers who produce food and in an environmentally friendly fashion the demonstration was organized to coincide with an e. U. Negotiation on farming subsidies totaling 55000000000 euros a year. My 2 boys ling is a member of the
European Parliament
and an organic farmer the
Green Party Politician
has been campaigning for years for environmentally friendly farming to be awarded with subsidies. Down the south on the side but on the other side there are powerful lobby interests its not as if money isnt being made from farming in europe and its a profitable business in the
Food Industry
is one of the e. U. s main export earners so naturally there is here to ensure that the pumps a lot of money on to the
Agricultural Sector
one overs on your and i got. Martine hustling says taxpayers money is currently being used to interrupt the support of a corporation but that it should
Serve Society
as a whole. The
European Parliament
has been negotiating the redistribution of farming subsidies for months a total of 55000000000. 00 euros per year the largest slice of the e use expenditure powerful lobby groups are clamoring to maximize their share. But whose interests will prevail. In the
European Parliament
martin who is lying is part of a team negotiating farming issues for the green party and hes preparing for him to bake scheduled for the next day when the. Hunnish will run a
Senior Advisor
on agriculture and
Rule Development
joints well hes thing to go over the strategy. With a scope. Well. I think we should try to push the point that the current agricultural challenges are going to get worse if things dont change the soil in fertility will drop further. After looking at that yeah sure but thats why we have to emphasize that even more so there are plenty of figures and supporting documents and the commission described the situation correctly in its appraisal so the question is why are we taking action yet ready. That should be enough for the 2 minutes this is just because its why we do need you. 2 minutes is what martino weaselling will have to present his most important arguments to other members of the
European Parliament
. Sean and i do have a degree of anger in me its just ridiculous that they still havent understood it. We have so much evidence that this form of farming will be our ruin forgiven but there are still people sitting there saying now everythings ok if we can explain it in a different way theyll understand it and indeed us all. Its the evening before the 1st round of talks which sides interests will come out on top in the debate and why. The next morning german conservative m. E. P. Albert dez is likewise preparing for the debate. Dez is also chairman of buy or not and one of the biggest producers of
Dairy Products
in germany he takes a skeptical view of investments in environmental protection. To describe. I find arguments calling for the farming sector to become more environmentally misled even when the it so if we said that from now on 20 percent of the land should be used environmentally if you forgive you that would result in production being relocated to farming areas around the world for the. Death says that if more german land is used in a way that benefits the environment major producers will inevitably go elsewhere he wants the status quo maintained under which funding is awarded on a per hectare basis disses offices around the corner from that of social democrat maria noise she takes exception to taxpayers money being allocated according to land area finish that is the big question is which pharmacy receives support and the answer for me is the public funding should be facilities as in the
Public Interest
you should get money is not simply for owning land but depending on what you do with it its activities that ought to be rewarded not ownership need it is since there are 2 clear. Camps here policies that favor the environment and the common good or those that mean the more land you own the more money you are paid and. The different parties make their way over to the
Agriculture Committee
. Will also be there and will face powerful opponents. And they also industry will get the
Food Industry
and its representatives here in parliament so powerful i believe things would be moving in a different direction neal but the
Food Industry
depends on direct payment subsidies to be able to compete in export markets of its partner to. Martin hoisting wants to see an eco friendly
Agricultural Policy
as do environmental and
Consumer Protection
groups the e. U. Is farming policy is hammered out here by the
Agricultural Committee
which side will end up getting its way albert desk is the c. E. O. Of a major
Dairy Producer
martin why sling is an organic farmer. And maria noise is a former teacher. But im not talking to you phil hogan is the
European Commission
er for agriculture ann
Rule Development
and an advocate of area based subsidies. Into the to ensure full living for the community in particular where increasing the areas of persons engaged in a. One time for martine whistling to have his say oh so hows things you know that. Stuff most of the week proposal from the commission looks like things will get even worse except for those few fancy headlines that. Will poisoning managed to convince his colleagues will be returning to the debate in brussels later. To. Cologne back at our editorial offices we want to investigate who is pulling the strings behind closed doors our industry lobby groups determining
Agricultural Policy
and if so how. We come across a revealing document from 2015 by the
Scientific Advisory
board of the
German Ministry
of agriculture the paper concluded that policy was strongly influenced by
Interest Groups
because of the powerful and effective farming and agribusiness lobby. How does this impact farmers and what has changed in the past 4 years. We head out to do some research on the ground one environmental issue is ground
Water Pollution
its been known for years that the excessive use of liquid manure in fields leads to nitrate groundwater contamination in june 2800 germany was condemned for exceeding e. U. Fertiliser limits and currently faces fines of up to 850000. 00 euros per day until it reduces its use of liquid manure. Or in north rhinewestphalia where a lot of liquid manure is produced how are the farmers dealing with the problem. This farm belongs to martin ron shoulda who also rears pigs he has had this farm for 40 years and as we arrive hes preparing a delivery of pigs for slaughter. Currently each pig yields 20 euros in profit in some years this drops to just 6 heroes. In one case and i think the thought you come out shorting about this is
Pretty Simple
because right now its 20 euros per pig 0 if i sell 1000. 00 pigs a year all i earn is 20000 euros how theyre trying and thats our
Family Income
every month you dont get far on that from me and im called that coming a 500. 20000. 00 euros for one year of hard work from children may be a part of a villian euro industry but his own profit margin is slim. And from now if we currently have 850. 00 picks from us if we wanted to live soley off that pigs wed have to have 4000. 00 your calls and its insane it would mean anything even more liquid manure that needs distributing. The farmer says he already has too much manure he has fields full of crops but they arent enough to dispose of all the animal waste his manure tank as he shows us is full to the brim. Yom to what already have far too much liquid manure for our fields we have to have 300 cubic meters picked up and taken away because we have too many pigs to freeze. The excess manure ends up several 100 kilometers away on other farmers fields liquid manure is a valuable fertilizer but they are simply too much of it what kind of system is this for a pig is now with practically nothing small scale farmers live at subsistence level and the huge quantities of liquid manure are increasingly polluting germanys
Drinking Water
. Each pig that rumsfeld to drives off to the slaughterhouse has a socalled smaller weight of a around 100. 00 kilos the average price of pork in german supermarkets is 6. 00 euros 70 per kilo. Every year some 65000000. 00 pigs are slaughtered in the country its a 1000000000 euro market that is a huge earner for industry. Chemical
Companies Make
money from medication and pesticides the
Farm Supplies
sector from fodder mixtures and fertilizers the agro financial industry from loans for
Agricultural Machinery
and large scale animal sheds the
Meat Industry
from slaughtering and processing and finally the
Retail Sector
from the sale of food products. And production continues to rise germany is now the worlds furred biggest exporter of food. In order to survive
Martin Rumsfeld
just says hed have to expand which would 1st mean going into debt there is a
Farmers Union
but he doesnt sense much support from them. On for bond thank you bob they have no interest in the
Small Farmers
only in the quantities of feet they can sell and then keeping the speed pellet plants running for the record most of the lot of people representing the union also sit on the boards of b. Companies including the collectors the lot and insurance for a truck to or from or and for the help i cant make sense of it im in a bit we have managers in the union who are at the same time working for
Major Companies
also fumes its an orange in for band. In response to work weary the german
Farmers Union
insisted it also represents the interest of small scale farmers. The
Agricultural Industry
continues to increase turnover but at what price to the public our next stop is lower saxony where we meet a gun harms from the olden board water board for years hes found the nitrate levels in water just below ground to be worryingly high a 520. 00. Also were very concerned that the pollution were currently only seeing below the surface well at some point seep deeper into the future the level we get our water from. Based on his measurements hydrologist is able to calculate how the ground
Water Quality
will deteriorate in the future. What does he make of the governments approach. And im stuck on stead of recognizing the problem early on and working with us on solutions i think they said there was no nitrate problem i knew a few of them still claim that yes the e. U. Was threatening to impose fines time is running short on action has to be taken. We accompany him to the land where he will inspect his latest sample too much nitrate in
Drinking Water
is carcinogenic with
Young Children
particularly at risk expensive filter systems might soon become necessary but that would almost double the price of water in some regions according to the energy and
Water Management
Industry Association
todays results are hardly encouraging. 119. 00 just under 120. 00 milligrams per liter thats more than twice the permitted limit. His colleagues elsewhere in germany are also finding critical levels water board officials are urgently calling for measures to be taken. Come from here when it comes to fighting for more stringent regulations for manure we continually find ourselves up against the agribusiness lobby. Theyve been managing to prevent stricter regulations for years. So for. Tightening germanys fertiliser legislation to keep the countrys
Drinking Water
safe its a debate with a lot at stake because liquid manure would also mean. Fewer pigs which would in turn have consequences for the entire industry for years the
German Government
has failed to agree on a solution. Makes you wonder who is in bed with whom theres a lot of money involved who actually and fluence is
Foreign Policy
thats the question and. Our
Parliament Members
subjected to so much lobbying influence but you have to ask whether theyre still acting with the publics interest in mind that we tricked into this fortress. We began researching whose interests politicians in key positions are really representing and begin examining how fertiliser legislation was decided in the past. Germanys government has known for years that it has to act not least due to pressure from the e. U. Over excessive nitrate levels in the groundwater time and time again however amendments have been postponed in 2016 the
German Parliament
s
Agriculture Committee
began examining how much liquid manure should be allowed on crops attending the meeting was one of the most renowned scientists in his field he calculated how much nitrogen from liquid manure or artificial fertiliser crops need to grow. Thats literally warm welcome to you all i would like to introduce our experts speaker professor played hometown from the christiane alberich to university and in the us to ted so clearly. Together with 30 other scientists friedhelm talbot calculated how much nitrogen plants such as maize need to grow. The researchers found this to be 150 kilograms per hectare and professor talbot recommended this figure at the hearing. But just before the negotiation ended the committee decided to recommend 200 kilograms of nitrogen perhaps their significantly more fertiliser than the plants can actually absorb according to the. Experts the surplus seeps into the groundwater in the form of nitrates. The scientists were asked for their
Expert Opinion
at the
Agriculture Committee
hearings but their findings were not adopted this year and business x. The problem is its extremely problematic for a scientist to see how legislation is being based on deals here want find on levels of fact that are far removed from scientific knowledge of fun and business have to know how is it. Were meeting professor talbot 2 years after the hearing he tells us the 27000 amendment regarding the nitrogen level has had enormous consequences. For jordan of consequence farmers can now use this additional amount of fertilizer this was not on the agenda before and it was slipped into those negotiations right at the end user 5 of them but i know it has and who was behind that. To answer this question we begin by identifying which german
Parliament Members
worked on the legislation the preparation of such bills takes place behind closed doors here in the
Agriculture Committee
this is where decisions are made on how animals are kept and how food is produced. Our analyses revealed that almost half the parliamentarians on the committee have direct links to agriculture. A large proportion of them also hold high level positions in the agriculture industry in the
Farmers Association
or in the agribusiness
Financial Sector
and that proportion is particularly high in the conservative c. D. U. C. S. U. Parliamentary group. What did these m. P. s say and do in the committee in 2017. Austin doff from the green party remembers the negotiations vividly did she do. All that the christian democrats and
Christian Social Union
people did was stalled. They torpedoed the whole thing it was an endless process. And we in the opposition got a pretty good picture of events because social democrat colleagues would come over to cry on our shoulders and they said you cant imagine how tough going the negotiations are how difficult it is to get any kind of agreement. Vilhelm place meyer is from the
Agricultural Policy<\/a> but little has shifted could this be because of lobbyists in the
Agricultural Sector<\/a> are lobbyists more powerful in this policy area than in others. Our
Research Revealed<\/a> a tightly intertwined web of interests in which corporations influential figures manning several lobbying positions and politicians are closely linked a lot is at stake. During the making of this film billions of euros in agricultural subsidies were being negotiated in brussels and germany was under pressure to finally impose stricter limits on the amount of liquid manure used on its fields. Who is. Pulling the strings behind the scenes. At. Brussels farmers and conservation groups from across europe are protesting outside the headquarters of the
European Commission<\/a> to call for a change in
Agricultural Policy<\/a> they collected 100000 signatures for a petition demanding subsidies for farmers who produce food and in an environmentally friendly fashion the demonstration was organized to coincide with an e. U. Negotiation on farming subsidies totaling 55000000000 euros a year. My 2 boys ling is a member of the
European Parliament<\/a> and an organic farmer the
Green Party Politician<\/a> has been campaigning for years for environmentally friendly farming to be awarded with subsidies. Down the south on the side but on the other side there are powerful lobby interests its not as if money isnt being made from farming in europe and its a profitable business in the
Food Industry<\/a> is one of the e. U. s main export earners so naturally there is here to ensure that the pumps a lot of money on to the
Agricultural Sector<\/a> one overs on your and i got. Martine hustling says taxpayers money is currently being used to interrupt the support of a corporation but that it should
Serve Society<\/a> as a whole. The
European Parliament<\/a> has been negotiating the redistribution of farming subsidies for months a total of 55000000000. 00 euros per year the largest slice of the e use expenditure powerful lobby groups are clamoring to maximize their share. But whose interests will prevail. In the
European Parliament<\/a> martin who is lying is part of a team negotiating farming issues for the green party and hes preparing for him to bake scheduled for the next day when the. Hunnish will run a
Senior Advisor<\/a> on agriculture and
Rule Development<\/a> joints well hes thing to go over the strategy. With a scope. Well. I think we should try to push the point that the current agricultural challenges are going to get worse if things dont change the soil in fertility will drop further. After looking at that yeah sure but thats why we have to emphasize that even more so there are plenty of figures and supporting documents and the commission described the situation correctly in its appraisal so the question is why are we taking action yet ready. That should be enough for the 2 minutes this is just because its why we do need you. 2 minutes is what martino weaselling will have to present his most important arguments to other members of the
European Parliament<\/a>. Sean and i do have a degree of anger in me its just ridiculous that they still havent understood it. We have so much evidence that this form of farming will be our ruin forgiven but there are still people sitting there saying now everythings ok if we can explain it in a different way theyll understand it and indeed us all. Its the evening before the 1st round of talks which sides interests will come out on top in the debate and why. The next morning german conservative m. E. P. Albert dez is likewise preparing for the debate. Dez is also chairman of buy or not and one of the biggest producers of
Dairy Products<\/a> in germany he takes a skeptical view of investments in environmental protection. To describe. I find arguments calling for the farming sector to become more environmentally misled even when the it so if we said that from now on 20 percent of the land should be used environmentally if you forgive you that would result in production being relocated to farming areas around the world for the. Death says that if more german land is used in a way that benefits the environment major producers will inevitably go elsewhere he wants the status quo maintained under which funding is awarded on a per hectare basis disses offices around the corner from that of social democrat maria noise she takes exception to taxpayers money being allocated according to land area finish that is the big question is which pharmacy receives support and the answer for me is the public funding should be facilities as in the
Public Interest<\/a> you should get money is not simply for owning land but depending on what you do with it its activities that ought to be rewarded not ownership need it is since there are 2 clear. Camps here policies that favor the environment and the common good or those that mean the more land you own the more money you are paid and. The different parties make their way over to the
Agriculture Committee<\/a>. Will also be there and will face powerful opponents. And they also industry will get the
Food Industry<\/a> and its representatives here in parliament so powerful i believe things would be moving in a different direction neal but the
Food Industry<\/a> depends on direct payment subsidies to be able to compete in export markets of its partner to. Martin hoisting wants to see an eco friendly
Agricultural Policy<\/a> as do environmental and
Consumer Protection<\/a> groups the e. U. Is farming policy is hammered out here by the
Agricultural Committee<\/a> which side will end up getting its way albert desk is the c. E. O. Of a major
Dairy Producer<\/a> martin why sling is an organic farmer. And maria noise is a former teacher. But im not talking to you phil hogan is the
European Commission<\/a>er for agriculture ann
Rule Development<\/a> and an advocate of area based subsidies. Into the to ensure full living for the community in particular where increasing the areas of persons engaged in a. One time for martine whistling to have his say oh so hows things you know that. Stuff most of the week proposal from the commission looks like things will get even worse except for those few fancy headlines that. Will poisoning managed to convince his colleagues will be returning to the debate in brussels later. To. Cologne back at our editorial offices we want to investigate who is pulling the strings behind closed doors our industry lobby groups determining
Agricultural Policy<\/a> and if so how. We come across a revealing document from 2015 by the
Scientific Advisory<\/a> board of the
German Ministry<\/a> of agriculture the paper concluded that policy was strongly influenced by
Interest Groups<\/a> because of the powerful and effective farming and agribusiness lobby. How does this impact farmers and what has changed in the past 4 years. We head out to do some research on the ground one environmental issue is ground
Water Pollution<\/a> its been known for years that the excessive use of liquid manure in fields leads to nitrate groundwater contamination in june 2800 germany was condemned for exceeding e. U. Fertiliser limits and currently faces fines of up to 850000. 00 euros per day until it reduces its use of liquid manure. Or in north rhinewestphalia where a lot of liquid manure is produced how are the farmers dealing with the problem. This farm belongs to martin ron shoulda who also rears pigs he has had this farm for 40 years and as we arrive hes preparing a delivery of pigs for slaughter. Currently each pig yields 20 euros in profit in some years this drops to just 6 heroes. In one case and i think the thought you come out shorting about this is
Pretty Simple<\/a> because right now its 20 euros per pig 0 if i sell 1000. 00 pigs a year all i earn is 20000 euros how theyre trying and thats our
Family Income<\/a> every month you dont get far on that from me and im called that coming a 500. 20000. 00 euros for one year of hard work from children may be a part of a villian euro industry but his own profit margin is slim. And from now if we currently have 850. 00 picks from us if we wanted to live soley off that pigs wed have to have 4000. 00 your calls and its insane it would mean anything even more liquid manure that needs distributing. The farmer says he already has too much manure he has fields full of crops but they arent enough to dispose of all the animal waste his manure tank as he shows us is full to the brim. Yom to what already have far too much liquid manure for our fields we have to have 300 cubic meters picked up and taken away because we have too many pigs to freeze. The excess manure ends up several 100 kilometers away on other farmers fields liquid manure is a valuable fertilizer but they are simply too much of it what kind of system is this for a pig is now with practically nothing small scale farmers live at subsistence level and the huge quantities of liquid manure are increasingly polluting germanys
Drinking Water<\/a>. Each pig that rumsfeld to drives off to the slaughterhouse has a socalled smaller weight of a around 100. 00 kilos the average price of pork in german supermarkets is 6. 00 euros 70 per kilo. Every year some 65000000. 00 pigs are slaughtered in the country its a 1000000000 euro market that is a huge earner for industry. Chemical
Companies Make<\/a> money from medication and pesticides the
Farm Supplies<\/a> sector from fodder mixtures and fertilizers the agro financial industry from loans for
Agricultural Machinery<\/a> and large scale animal sheds the
Meat Industry<\/a> from slaughtering and processing and finally the
Retail Sector<\/a> from the sale of food products. And production continues to rise germany is now the worlds furred biggest exporter of food. In order to survive
Martin Rumsfeld<\/a> just says hed have to expand which would 1st mean going into debt there is a
Farmers Union<\/a> but he doesnt sense much support from them. On for bond thank you bob they have no interest in the
Small Farmers<\/a> only in the quantities of feet they can sell and then keeping the speed pellet plants running for the record most of the lot of people representing the union also sit on the boards of b. Companies including the collectors the lot and insurance for a truck to or from or and for the help i cant make sense of it im in a bit we have managers in the union who are at the same time working for
Major Companies<\/a> also fumes its an orange in for band. In response to work weary the german
Farmers Union<\/a> insisted it also represents the interest of small scale farmers. The
Agricultural Industry<\/a> continues to increase turnover but at what price to the public our next stop is lower saxony where we meet a gun harms from the olden board water board for years hes found the nitrate levels in water just below ground to be worryingly high a 520. 00. Also were very concerned that the pollution were currently only seeing below the surface well at some point seep deeper into the future the level we get our water from. Based on his measurements hydrologist is able to calculate how the ground
Water Quality<\/a> will deteriorate in the future. What does he make of the governments approach. And im stuck on stead of recognizing the problem early on and working with us on solutions i think they said there was no nitrate problem i knew a few of them still claim that yes the e. U. Was threatening to impose fines time is running short on action has to be taken. We accompany him to the land where he will inspect his latest sample too much nitrate in
Drinking Water<\/a> is carcinogenic with
Young Children<\/a> particularly at risk expensive filter systems might soon become necessary but that would almost double the price of water in some regions according to the energy and
Water Management<\/a>
Industry Association<\/a> todays results are hardly encouraging. 119. 00 just under 120. 00 milligrams per liter thats more than twice the permitted limit. His colleagues elsewhere in germany are also finding critical levels water board officials are urgently calling for measures to be taken. Come from here when it comes to fighting for more stringent regulations for manure we continually find ourselves up against the agribusiness lobby. Theyve been managing to prevent stricter regulations for years. So for. Tightening germanys fertiliser legislation to keep the countrys
Drinking Water<\/a> safe its a debate with a lot at stake because liquid manure would also mean. Fewer pigs which would in turn have consequences for the entire industry for years the
German Government<\/a> has failed to agree on a solution. Makes you wonder who is in bed with whom theres a lot of money involved who actually and fluence is
Foreign Policy<\/a> thats the question and. Our
Parliament Members<\/a> subjected to so much lobbying influence but you have to ask whether theyre still acting with the publics interest in mind that we tricked into this fortress. We began researching whose interests politicians in key positions are really representing and begin examining how fertiliser legislation was decided in the past. Germanys government has known for years that it has to act not least due to pressure from the e. U. Over excessive nitrate levels in the groundwater time and time again however amendments have been postponed in 2016 the
German Parliament<\/a>s
Agriculture Committee<\/a> began examining how much liquid manure should be allowed on crops attending the meeting was one of the most renowned scientists in his field he calculated how much nitrogen from liquid manure or artificial fertiliser crops need to grow. Thats literally warm welcome to you all i would like to introduce our experts speaker professor played hometown from the christiane alberich to university and in the us to ted so clearly. Together with 30 other scientists friedhelm talbot calculated how much nitrogen plants such as maize need to grow. The researchers found this to be 150 kilograms per hectare and professor talbot recommended this figure at the hearing. But just before the negotiation ended the committee decided to recommend 200 kilograms of nitrogen perhaps their significantly more fertiliser than the plants can actually absorb according to the. Experts the surplus seeps into the groundwater in the form of nitrates. The scientists were asked for their
Expert Opinion<\/a> at the
Agriculture Committee<\/a> hearings but their findings were not adopted this year and business x. The problem is its extremely problematic for a scientist to see how legislation is being based on deals here want find on levels of fact that are far removed from scientific knowledge of fun and business have to know how is it. Were meeting professor talbot 2 years after the hearing he tells us the 27000 amendment regarding the nitrogen level has had enormous consequences. For jordan of consequence farmers can now use this additional amount of fertilizer this was not on the agenda before and it was slipped into those negotiations right at the end user 5 of them but i know it has and who was behind that. To answer this question we begin by identifying which german
Parliament Members<\/a> worked on the legislation the preparation of such bills takes place behind closed doors here in the
Agriculture Committee<\/a> this is where decisions are made on how animals are kept and how food is produced. Our analyses revealed that almost half the parliamentarians on the committee have direct links to agriculture. A large proportion of them also hold high level positions in the agriculture industry in the
Farmers Association<\/a> or in the agribusiness
Financial Sector<\/a> and that proportion is particularly high in the conservative c. D. U. C. S. U. Parliamentary group. What did these m. P. s say and do in the committee in 2017. Austin doff from the green party remembers the negotiations vividly did she do. All that the christian democrats and
Christian Social Union<\/a> people did was stalled. They torpedoed the whole thing it was an endless process. And we in the opposition got a pretty good picture of events because social democrat colleagues would come over to cry on our shoulders and they said you cant imagine how tough going the negotiations are how difficult it is to get any kind of agreement. Vilhelm place meyer is from the
Junior Coalition<\/a> partner social democrats and was involved in the talks firsthand he tells us he fought long and hard for stricter legislation on fertilisers. Issues i feel like a bit of a failure because i could have done better. And who made you fail. To show that. On my colleagues from the christian democrats. And also the
Interest Groups<\/a> behind the scenes who are also represented there. In these negotiations there was relatively tight solidarity between the
Farmers Union<\/a> and the c. D. U. Many colleagues are also members of the union. There are very important issues on the table and they exert their influence. Does this mean some members of the
Agriculture Committee<\/a> are biased towards industry interests. Lost and or thinks at least 2 members are. Releasing the. Supports in cobb and your highness willing are high profile conservative m. P. s connected to farming. They were definitely not among those pushing for progressive fertiliser legislation instead they stalled proceedings in. Each time claiming they were protecting their farmers i call it protecting the business interests. Even the surface. Of coats and comp was then chairman of the
Christian Democrat Group<\/a> on the committee. Your highness quelling is his successor. In feb 2017 the
German Parliament<\/a> voted on the fertilizer legislation broncho supposed some company took to the floor im confident of victory. Because. I. Mean weve done something good for the future i ask you all to vote in favor think youre comfortable feeling that thanks to legislation was passed with the conservative social democrat majority but then brussels announced its response to the outcome alarmed the e. U. Which said the amendments didnt sufficiently protect
Drinking Water<\/a> the threat of the fine for germany is still unresolved. It was. Back in cologne in 2019 we are researching which unspoken interests influence the vote in berlin its how many politicians have ties to industry and which companies do they work for. We meet you dont issue its a researcher from the university of braman on behalf of the
Nature Conservation<\/a> group in a b u its took a closer look at leaders in the
Agriculture Sector<\/a> and to politicians and mapped out the various connections he found the following. High for stopping a political influence at the government level at least in the
Agricultural Sector<\/a> is wielded by individuals who are what you would call wealthy functionaries who wear a multitude of hats and. They represent associations in the
Agricultural Sector<\/a> are rooted in agribusiness and ideally also whole positions on supervisory. Boards of manufacturers or
Industry Groups<\/a> have been that this enables me to exert my influence in directly and ensure my interests are realized also in the
Agricultural Committee<\/a>s in europe and in berlin or in body. Form or bundestag member franciosa hoatson comp is such a multifunction area the fertilizer amendment was the last item of legislation he helped introduce before moving completely into industry. Hes now president of the right face and confederation germanys biggest
Umbrella Group<\/a> representing farming collectives and also sits on the board of an association representing corporations alongside executives from buyer and other agra giants back when he was negotiating the new fertilizer legislation in the
German Parliament<\/a> votes and count was already on the
Supervisory Board<\/a> of a gravest one of the biggest producers of
Agricultural Products<\/a> in germany we take a closer look at a gravitas the commercial cooperative has a prominent stand at this trade fair in minster a gravest turns over 6000000000 euros a year and essentially
Sells Everything<\/a> the
Agricultural Industry<\/a> offers farmers animal feed seeds pesticides and mineral and nitrogen fertilizer years in its annual management report from 2016 the company warned that stricter fertilizer legislation would likely lead to a significant decline in revenue. In 2016 franciosa posts in comp was still an m. P. And on the
Supervisory Board<\/a> of a gravitas on the
German Parliament<\/a>s website which lists all his additional posts and pay grades we can see that 1. 00 holds income was negotiating the legislative amendment a gravis increased his salary from level 2 to level 3 he went from earning up to 7000 euros a month to earning up to 15000 euros a month ago. Incidents quotes and come said he did not have time to be interviewed but he did provide a written response to our questions he said the cited figures are unfounded and that secondary posts are permitted under legislation governing parliamentarians he did not respond to our question regarding a conflict of interest votes income pretty tired from politics in 2017 to concentrate fully on his work in the agribusiness sector. He was succeeded on the
Agriculture Committee<\/a> by
Johannes Rouhani<\/a> like hudson camp for having also works for a graphs and was involved in negotiating the fertilizer amendment this multi functionary is reportedly one of the top earners in the blender stock. Who is johana swerving the m. P. Obtained most of his industry posts only after he became his
Party Spokesman<\/a> on the
Agriculture Committee<\/a>. During currently holds around 15 positions in various corporations lobby groups and the banking sector. To name just a few during is on the board of trustees of quality on city height a
Company Responsible<\/a> for checking quality and
Safety Standards<\/a> in the food sector. Hes also president of a
Regional Branch<\/a> of the
Farmers Association<\/a>. As well as on the
Supervisory Board<\/a> of d. C. Hoop a leading provider of
Real Estate Financial<\/a> services in germany and hes on the
Supervisory Board<\/a> of the l. V. M. Insurance groups pension fund division. Janusz berthing also works for fertiliser supplier a graphic where he sits on the
Advisory Board<\/a>. Littering said he did not have time for an interview with us due to scheduling commitments our question about whether he had conflicts of interest went unanswered a gravity sent us a written response saying the company did not see a conflict of interest for refereeing or hans and company and that both politicians act according to their conscience. Brussels the e. U. Is threatening germany with fines of up 2850000 euros a day for breaching e. U. Fertiliser limits it once the country to revise its legislation so that its fertiliser use complies with e. U. Directives protecting ground
Water Quality<\/a>. We asked germanys minister of agriculture yulia pluck now how she sees lobbyists in agriculture element alia mark all the secondary posts of a lot of parliamentarians on the
Agriculture Committee<\/a> especially from the conservative faction are mainly within industry the how do you ensure a balance where you tick. This is mine i havent heard them mainly within industry if someone has their own farm and then. Im talking about executive appointments at major agricultural corporations in our name as well i know they get economy and isnt on any
Supervisory Board<\/a> tomorrow noise or other people i think we should stay fair here and refrain from using these black and white categories there are interests everywhere and someone having interests isnt necessarily bad as the they need to firstly be transparent and secondly also not make political decisions according to one groups interests but considering the various groups interests on a mouth clashed left. But how realistic is this when industry has such a
Strong Influence<\/a> on politicians
Bank Accounts<\/a> we go to bond to hear what a constitutional law expert thinks about members of the
Agriculture Committee<\/a> simultaneously holding posts in industry. Spent 12 years as a judge on germanys federal constitutional court. Whether parliamentarians should be allowed to represent other interests is a question thats been around since the dawn of the parliamentary system. But in the case of obvious industry interests and personal ties we do have to ask critical questions vietnam could to. Listen these questions should 1st be asked in the parliamentary arena itself runs and without moralizing or demonizing but rather demanding for
Greater Transparency<\/a> for trust. So just how transparent are german politicians regarding their various interests. Its spent 12 months analyzing how parliamentarians and lobby groups work in town. Them his research has laid bare the various connections. For a small humanity and you need somebody to collect process and fact check this information something a regular citizen does not have the capacity for. Us 5 of us and also because in some cases there is insufficient public data on how many positions an individual has and with which conflicts and collisions of interest and what is your in a time that makes it pretty much impossible to see who is doing what the other where and why it. Information is publicly available but the details are hard to decipher in berlin we visit the grain of vodka or green week its one of the biggest events on the global agricultural trade fair calendar and a chance for agribusiness to do some grandstanding its also a meet and greet for farming ministers and industry stakeholders and the most important lobbyist is your walking recreate president of the german and the european
Farmers Union<\/a>s his job centers on friendly relations with politicians hes considered one of the most influential individuals in the agribusiness sector. Farmers
Union President<\/a> rock veit has an array of links to the industry he holds over a dozen high ranking posts in a range of
Different Companies<\/a> and lobby groups from banks to fertiliser suppliers and zoot soca the worlds biggest sugar producer. For its influence extends far beyond germanys borders fill hogan is also at green weekend berlin as
European Commission<\/a>er for agriculture and
Rural Development<\/a> hogan is the key figure in the allocation of agricultural subsidies. You walk in new creed is eager to rub shoulders with the commissioner. E. U. Headquarters in brussels its now just a few weeks before the
Agriculture Committee<\/a> has a vote on agricultural subsidies the biggest item in the e. U. Budget and the allocation of funds has been hotly debated. Commissioner phil hogan has presented a proposal that would retain the system of area based payments. That the
Committee Meeting<\/a> we catch up with the 3 german members of the
European Parliament<\/a> conservative albert dest chairman of a major supplier of
Dairy Products<\/a> the green partys martine hoisting an organic farmer and social democrat and former teacher maria noyes the commissioner defends the old system. So it is that right where a hospital is a direct this other very far as to the victory in relation to the way it is if. It is the work or the provisions of article her the night of the treaty which set of the objectives of an e. P. Martine hoisting voices his criticism of the system. Yeah you dont thank you im a little disappointed mr hogan. No i agree with the court of auditors that the climate objectives cannot be achieved with the 1st pillar of payments. I have not found a concrete point perhaps mr hogan would care to pay attention. Its nice of mr hogan to listen to what members have to say. That this. Dont even matter 94 actually just continuing as before but under new headings of great headlines but its highly doubtful that well be able to meet environmental and climate objectives thank you very much. It seems those with
Environmental Concerns<\/a> have a hard time being heard here. Conservative alberta defends the policy by downplaying the amount of subsidies involved. In autism. If you take all the
Public Expenditure<\/a> in europe from brussels agriculture accounts for less than one percent need to make that clear to the public but farming is not the huge beneficiary of subsidies that its always made out to be just that. Dennis says we need to increase the amount of food exports in order to be able to feed the
World Commission<\/a> the productivity we have to boost productivity by 2056 the world will need 60 percent more food on the increasing productivity does not mean that the environment will be harmed look if you cannot empirically prove that scones. Studies that establish a connection between
Agro Chemicals<\/a> and environmental damage are unreliable according to dest who is constantly going from one
Committee Meeting<\/a> to the next in the
Pesticides Committee<\/a> for example he advocates the use of glyphosate. Who is deaths over the last 50 years the big. Varian has been involved in
Agricultural Policy<\/a> from local
Town Councils<\/a> to the german and
European Parliament<\/a> he became an m. E. P. In 2004 albert dest is another well connected official the qualified farm manager is honorary chairman of the bavarian
Farmers Union<\/a> for more than 20 years he has been chairman of one of germanys largest dairies buy or not which produces cheese for supermarket chains and for export and posts annual sales in excess of 1000000000 euros plus the n. E. P. Is also on the
Advisory Board<\/a> of germanys largest agricultural conglomerate. Which also has a large food export business. But death sees no conflict of interest he sees no problem in reconciling his executive position at the
Dairy Producer<\/a> with his responsibilities as a member of the
European Parliament<\/a>. Other m e ps however take a critical view of such proximity to industry one of them is social democrat maria noise. Does held a vote suggest theres someone else pulling the strings absolutely and i can give you an example but i dont think youll mind mr desk repeatedly uses the word we we here of the opinion that and i often say mr davis or rather albert who is this we today your party the
Farmers Union<\/a> or the dairy collective your chairman of the just what is this we becomes blurred when he says we are of the opinion that that is when i notice how his position isnt clear and how important it is for a parliamentarian to remind themselves of their juicy to the public when not here to get the best deal on behalf of a
Dairy Company<\/a> a capacity might not be mandated to ensure that the pharmacy receive direct payments with a minimum of conditions to feel what i am here for is to conduct
Agricultural Policy<\/a> for the entire population chroma me back in our offices in cologne considering the industry interests present in the committees can the
Parliament Still<\/a> make balanced decisions. In the us if we place the 3 sheets on top of each other well get a picture of how the system works. The full picture shows the web of connections between the key corporations lobby groups and politicians. Their representatives sit on the same committees allowing them to coordinate their strategies these connections have evolved over several decades today they have become a sturdy system that can withstand reform efforts. Brussels in the spring of 2019 a few days before the vote. The tension is palpable in the offices of martin hoisting and were not the only t. V. Crew here will he get a majority for his car. You know also its been going on for the committee is basically split 2 ways meaning which direction things will go it comes down to a handful of people at this point were about to find out whether well get this majority or that majority its exciting because the outcome is still on written this is not. A real noise szell is also working on a motion for the
Agriculture Committee<\/a> which aims to expose conflicts of interest half of the any piece on the committee are themselves farmers they are therefore direct beneficiaries of the subsidies which automatically leads to a conflict of interest says notional. Right because. It was a town council in rosenheim for the 10 years which is its own administrative district it was completely normal there to abstain from certain votes because of posh ality for example if there is only one plans for developing a location and you happen to have land there it would be dishonest to vote and also prohibited so in a
Municipal Assembly<\/a> having a conflict of interests is no big deal you just shipped your chair back to signal you have a vested interest i do match and thats how it would be in the
European Parliament<\/a> too but sadly its not this is that. There is in fact a code of conduct in the
European Parliament<\/a> it stipulates that any piece should disclose any conflict of interest in writing but ultimately this has no consequences for the vote on the use common
Agricultural Policy<\/a>. In april 2900 the
Agriculture Committee<\/a> decides to maintain the model of area based land subsidies around half of the members voting have ties to the industry we speak to constitutional law expert again he calls for more transparency in the system in brussels and berlin. Lobbying comes from various directions. And as part of the parliamentary system. But it has to be visible and not done in the shadows and. Because if it happens covertly it was and is then suddenly exposed it damages public confidence. A finished some mystical. Be found b. O. Thinks selfregulation is a sensible approach a kind of standardized conscience check what we learned from our research is that we need better rules regarding transparency plus a code of conduct for cases where politicians stand to gain financially from a decision because while having secondary jobs in industry is permitted it seems to also compromise the credibility of europes democratic system. The been strong opinions clear position the
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