Paula i have to me that so thank you for having me you have much to say about the violence that the who fees and the Human Rights Violations the violence theyve committed but you appear to have almost nothing to say about the shocking casualties and bombings by the Saudi Led Coalition thats killed many thousands of your civilians why is that well thats not accurate actually you know. The war is ugly im not. Even going to sugarcoat that for you or for anyone a lot of civilians are dead yes this is this is shocking havent you hear the news and you know its a big campaign but theres a difference between having human shields like that who these or some mistakes that happen in every conflict in every campaign and the suit is no difference but you know that human rights are being massively violated by Coalition Forces but to look the other way which means to a certain extent your complicity in the society well im not sure what you mean by looking the other way we have this giant which is an investigation body that has investigated over 170 claims we know theres some mistakes we prove that there are some mistakes some of them i want to talk about you know ive gotten a lot of but but since march 2015 according to Human Rights Watch because aleutian has conducted numerous indiscriminate and disproportionate strikes killing thousands of civilians hitting civilian structures in violation of the laws of war but you turn the way you left out how horrible let me put it on record this is horrible killing any civilians in yemen is horrible we want in this war killing even one life let alone a child which happened even by coalition let me finish so why go on with indiscriminate and disproportionate is it ok this is a big campaign right and there are some mistakes and we approve of we know that some business more than some as well as look i think the u. N. Need to investigate more and we know its you know this thousands and thousands of circling and dead if theres an airstrike a mistake everybodys reporting a part and they should report a pilot we should hear about it but theres a lot of mistakes that the host is and im not here to talk about the who hes on the coalitions having mistakes i want in this war im from san am from those territories my family says that were sick of it and we need to end it and just blaming now the coalition for and for all these will not end the war we need to end it yes we do we want to stop the killing even if i dont. Style of work but why do so many civilians have to die for the sake of saving a chaotic divided government such as yours which barely has legitimacy with a wintry star with Digital Service legitimacy is not part of that im from a different country than the president but the president is the last elected president 6 and a half 1000000 people elected our president 2012 for 2 years where he will to use his mandate around his moments i must go to use it and tell that we have a democratic system that we allow this to elect a new president who is going to give us and decides what a democratic so yeah. Exactly to get many people in and who would do that those who were elected ok im not going to allow you or anyone to tell me you have to choose this leader to get you out of this ok let me if we choose and be that and we need to get out of it we dont want to be there for life thats why we actually had the revolution back in 2011 minister the worst thing about the bombings is that in all these years they have proved absolutely futile you have won nothing and the who says remain unchanged so the catastrophic injuries and deaths among the civilian population have been evolving havent spent a change in the way the coalition has been conducting this war theres no more campaign to actually targets and other cities theyve been sometimes some of the escalations with who it is and the sudanese renard involve them and then it didnt happen because we know we need to end this what i we need to talk how to end this what we you know everything that happens in yemen is a reaction to the who things actions we could be and so on and one week if they just do the right thing and theyre i think its not hard to do and when we ask them when we actually answer that question more than 17000 civilians killed and injured since 2015 the lives were sacrificed for a stalemate proxy war that created the Worlds Largest humanitarian disaster you really believe your government is worth that a ruthless human eye on these our future his worth. Fighting not about a future without you cargo the future was a cry of i could resign even today not tomorrow you know what if you know the who thiis and few know their ideology if you know that they want to have this under medicaid who the as a figure nobody could at that buffer zone and then well have a puppet government they want we will not accept that i will not give up the future of my children and their children so you can sleep better at night you know it is my country my people are dead they are dying every day you expect me to just to saddle for any peace that would explode in our face any time in the future no im not going to concede to that with these im from the territories im a cd we dont approve what they do and they have to come and park peace soon and we have to actually send the right signals to do that they have these illusions of power that you and others would feed in but as i say the color shit has to go where the coalition will end if we end the war but not before that if they end if the coalition ends yemen would descend into more chaos its not about federalism either government or the president had to say the powers of those still in yemen from those that you talk about the investigations that have gone on into what you term euphemistically mistakes in most cases youre not going to find the perpetrators and bring them to justice are you we know that 3 attacks on civilians several years ago are being referred by investigators for possible prosecution just 3 out of countless bombing strikes that have repeatedly this civilian infrastructure shingles are. Changed and then we put them in should check surely chump change look i let me put it for the record and he civilians are dead those responsible wherever they are they should be hold accountable they should be but they will be and you know it fact is previous investigations dont encourage up to any laws you have over investigations and when we know what we were some for show 3 thats what i was taken and i saw it coming many many years to get. Started or we could pass on what you think the facts i mean yes. Civilians are dead this is horrible we do the investigations but we need peace we need peace i mean were talking about having peace and its not easy you know the thing is you want to get away from the subject no investigation now because they did not let me let me just because the National Stage of the battle between these International Justice unfortunately sometimes dont come and hand in hand we have to have peace and then wed have Transitional Justice afterwards to get all of this done youre the one who is refusing talks with the who thinks thats what you think of it thats what youve said now your ministry of innovation said it no no no i represent the Foreign Policy you feel that we need to park soon however im not going to let the horses get off the hook and who they that we went to sweden and we signed the deal they came back one year they havent done anything to prove it should i just let them go off the hook and then move on no they have to be responsible not destroying your country piece by piece child by piece of in the next generation by on for a structure that is no road and continue with this humanitarian disaster one is a documented asin disaster if you think or case and i report let me let me just jump to that why do you think that these are holding it hostage were open it in for internal flights theyre refusing because they want to create this seizure this aggression against them and to hold on to power which they dont have who gave them the right to speak and for and behalf of me on behalf of millions if you have a nice and they use or power and they have this illusion of taking us back before 62 you will the minister youve dug in your heels the un is seeking unconditional talks unconditional talks between you and the movies youve got your heels on rejected all the talk as didnt i didnt do so soul january the 28th floor minister of information said we categorically reject any talk about negotiation on sax what we said is i am willing to go now to peace or if were going to talk peace however we need to have the right conditions to god are ok the u. N. Wants unconditional talks hala i dont want to go. Peace so they could have a good report for the Student Council i want to go and peace to make sustainable peace for yemen and if that ruth is would sign degrees sign and act like what they did in sweden and come back and not implement we should actually hold them accountable for implementing something they dont like your cherry bomb going on during them because you wont sit down and know who that is now and you are setting goodish ask around not going to be met and youre ignoring the advice of these not innovations were just were just saying they have to implement what this site is that its really hard to ask we cannot just go on by them signing our course and not implementing anything we know what we did back in 2014 we had a piece the just a few days after the coup 2 days after the call it was the partnership and Peace Agreement you know what they agreed to be agreed to partnerships but the security measures they never talked about it why arent you talking about that i mean it is that you want me to want to again about would youre responsible for most that i understand there are no angels in war but according to International Investigators your forces have nothing to be proud of last year the u. N. Panel of experts on yemen accused all sides in the war of committing or effective uses from arbitrary killings to rape and torture with impunity so not only have you not won this war you also lots to me claims about my moral ground havent you im not a mind going to claim were angels nobody has we just need to end the 2 i am i can tell you its a long way from being in this government got to address only 80 still says were not actually deterring forcibly disappeared scores of people well we have no respect for the rule of law we do we do but sometimes its really hard to control everything i can tell you but its not systematic killing of the yemeni people like you want to show it to be you know you can just talk about 2 sides have you been to yemen have you been to santa have you been to i didnt have you been to for dinner and matter you listen to the people themselves and that you cant just brush everything as as as you know she has been a divide as a rich countries fighting a poor country that is not the way to. And thats what we know theres some atrocities happened i mean we are a few you know a few miles from from just that we know what history is like why continue to block a vital aid goods and fuel from coming into this isnt this is good this is a good question were not actually doing so what we did is were trying to block the Oil Shipments to come from iran to that ruthie social rights watch or go wrong have there in the latest report they say that basically the Saudi Led Coalitions restriction on imports have worsened the humanitarian center were not sure and let me tell you why if you were you know what we said is what it was opened we were a few kilometers from the port the humanitarian came and the un says you cant do this we said fine lets go to sweden and we need to change this out of School One Year is nothing having let me go back to the question the questions that we have actually holding for the rest of this is not true we have reports from the un para doesnt say that that youre probably not going to mention that shipments of iranian all youre coming with counterfeit documents today of these for free you know we said by the creek 75 lets just check the papers here saying let me just give me just finish and then ill hear you we just said lets just check the papers the papers came the who his hold hostage and asked every mercians not to submit the papers so they could get to phony shipments so whos holding that and then we can see that we let it go then a great minister minister Human Rights Watch is saying the coalition has delayed and diverted fuel tankers closed critical ports and stopped goods from entering who controlled seaport what is the usual thing and i just finished fuel needed to Power Generators to hospitals and pump water to homes has also how in stock how do you justify preventing the hard every chance when i was justifying preventing anything in the past 3 months have been more fuel than that and in the previous 3 months or so you checked the statistics and were talking more than 2 years ago the u. N. High commissioner for human rights big both you and the rebels to let splays of food. To the country all parties to the conflict so the panel of experts on yemen have obstructed the distribution of humanitarian assistance the high commissioner beg do you. Have mercy on the people of you have you know fires this gone when you are actually doing archer to show mercy on your own people we give you something you know what i dont like something about the un is that they call everyone when they know exactly whos making the problem let me just give you an example a few days ago they had a meeting and brussel above the charter is that the who these are doing to the humanitarian field you know their want to tax your taxpayers money that comes to yemen so they could steal it and not just to finally went to a bias against you is this 1. 00 of those not more they just want to see in a neutral party you dont want to say ok i am willing to receive any criticism but dont say all the parties tell me what i did wrong and ill fix it but you have to point fingers also at the truth is point finger at me and also point forward at the whole thing you cannot just paragraph there kind of bad point to change your livings are they going to be always clear to them now i know what i do and were trying to struggle as i said to you earlier government affiliated forces arbitrarily deterring forcibly disappeared schools of people when you say mistakes happen in war they fancy excuse no i mean we i mean give me specifics and we would actually fix them im not saying them where you havent read the report but i have read their own experts yes yes and there are plenty of those areas it was done so by as the very 1st reports so it is not you have kids and someone being fired or quit were talking about different everybody who violates human rights abuses the that but mostly by its just be more specific so we can know what we talk about we have an expert group which is the u. N. And our panel accordingly that is actually following this recount said that movies are not even let it get to santa we believe whatever they say and whatever that is not biased we will check if we have mistakes would. Theres another really exposed to come from the Human Rights Council the 1st really the 1st report was so by it just took exactly from the pentagon propaganda of the who thing and we looked the no we said you cant just have and factual checks you have to check them before you reported and then you can just say you know everyone let me let me give you some facts 20100 strikes on yemen by the Coalition Forces since the war began an average of 12 attacks a day these attacks have blown up hospitals school buses markets mosques farms bridges factories where no Detention CentersCoalition Air strikes the u. N. Human rights commissioner said in 2017 Coalition Airstrikes continue to be the leading cause of child casualties as well as overall to civilian casualties so he didnt know what he was talking about its not rock ark we leave you isolation of human rights they have no idea what theyre saying about have been and i told you before but you have to give a penalty more than this you have to be clear on the report now its a policy of you cant using civilian infrastructure other privates that incompetent that they cant tell the difference to him are facing up in him and weve. Had happened then we can then that we would continue years later that if you are half your life you will point out for what they are doing we need to make peace we dont want to continue this war and we have to do it a few just weeks ago a few days ago they are shocked at hospitals its not right but we dont want just to dwell on it we want to know what is required to make peace and i know what is required to make peace we need to crack the illusions talk at ducking is required or it is about talking ok this is going to end as a negotiating table otherwise sure it wont be changed and the sooner it gets there the better and the moment you know what it is and prevent those is one in yemen including the who these no one needs to be done we debated it for 100 days in kuwait and you know what happened at the end they changed their mind you know why because they know that they would have. Barry thing if they dont sign unfortunately the International Community especially some parties send them the wrong thing and that maybe if you just hold on to take in yemen hostage you would get a bit of the if thats what happened and thats what we need to close the last year as well as fighting the rebels who became embroiled in another civil war this time with the forces in the south and then as the Transitional Council so not only are you failing to beat the who things you cant even keep your own side together and you cannot ignore the great gratitude like about that if it was not a great record now let me talk about that as i recall what happened myself is another complication that is not 12 months of course you know and they want to cede the determined to succeed on the comp of complication what it is that it wont of its really hard to discuss something without really proper to those just in of where this is actually happening if the s. T. C. Our brothers and the f. C. C. Really really represent all sufferance it would be an easy problem to solve the s. T. C. Have a problem with southrons themselves not with the f. C. C. It s. T. C. Is ju