All of them had really welcomed called it so thank you for having me you have much to say about the violence that the who sees Human Rights Violations the planets theyve committed but you appear to have almost nothing to say about the shocking casualties and bombings by the Saudi Led Coalition thats killed many thousands of your civilians why use them when thats not accurate actually you know. The war is ugly im not even going to sugarcoat that for you or for anyone a lot of civilians are dead yes this is this is shocking when you hear the news and you know its a big campaign but theres a difference between having human shields like that who these or some mistakes that happen in every conflict in every campaign and the so. It is no different but you know that human rights are being massively violated by Coalition Forces but to look the other way which means going to a certain extent your complicity in the society well im not sure what you mean by looking the other way we have this giant which is an investigation body that has investigated over 170 claims we know theres some mistakes we prove that there are some mistakes some of them i want to talk about the United Nations and loads of but but since march 2015 according to Human Rights Watch the coalition has conducted numerous indiscriminate and disproportionate strikes killing thousands of civilians hitting civilian structures in violation of the laws of war but you turn away and you left out how horrible let me put it on record this is horrible killing of civilians in yemen its horrible we want to end this war killing even one life let alone a child which happened even by coalition let me finish so i go on with indiscriminate disproportionally is it ok this is a big campaign right and theres some mistakes and we approve of we know theres some business more than some when zuck i think the u. N. Need to investigate more and we know its you know this thousands and thousands of circling and dead if theres an airstrike a mistake everybodys reporting a part and they should report upon it we should hear about it but theres a lot of mistakes that the host is and im not here to talk about the who hes under coalitions having mistakes i want in this war im from san am from those territories my family says that were sick of it and we need to end it and just blaming now the coalition for and for all these will not end the war we need to end it yes we did we want to stop the killing even understand our world but why do so many civilians have to die for the sake of saving a chaotic divided government such as yours which barely has legitimacy with a wintry lets start with legitimate interests which it misses not popularity im from a different country than the president but the president is the last elected president 6 and. Half a 1000000 people elected our president 2012 for 2 years where he will to use his mandate around his moments i must go to use it and tell that we have a democratic system that we allow this to elect a new president who is going to do so and who decides what a democratic city has. Exactly to get many people and who would do that those who were elected ok im not going to allow you or anyone to tell me you have to choose this leader to get you out of this week ok let me if we choose a leader and we need to get out of it we dont want to be there for life thats why we actually had the revolution back in 2011 most of the worst thing about the bombings is that in all these years they have proved absolutely futile you have won nothing and the who through is remain entrenched so the catastrophic injuries and deaths among the civilian population have been developing havent spent a change in the way the coalition has been conducting this war theres no more campaign to actually targets other cities theyve been sometimes some of the escalations with the who it is and the sudanese renard involve them and then it didnt happen because we know we need to end this what are we need to talk how to end this what we you know everything that happens in yemen is a reaction to the who things actions we could be and so on and one week if they just do the right thing and there i think is not hard to do and why dont we ask them why dont we actually answer that question more than 17000 civilians killed and injured since 2015 the lives were sacrificed for a stalemate proxy war that created the Worlds Largest humanitarian disaster you really believe your government is worth that her ruthless human eye on these our future does worth the fighting not about a future without you can go the future without trying i would resign even today not tomorrow you know what if you know the who things and few know their ideology if you know that they want to have this have the medicaid who the as a figure nobody could act buffer zone and then well have a puppet government they want we want not accept that i would not. Give up the future of my children and their children so you can sleep better at night you know it is my country my people are dead theyre dying every day you expect me to just to saddle for any peace that would explode in our face any time in the future no im not going to concede to the movies im from their territories im busy we dont approve what they do and they have to come and part peace soon and we have to actually send the right signals to do that they have these illusions of power that you and others would feed in but as i say theyre called action has to go where the coalition would end if we end the war but not before that if they end if the coalition ends yemen would descend into more chaos its not about an asylum either government or the president having stayed in power is imo still in yemen from those that you talk about the investigations that have gone on into what you term euphemistically mistakes in most cases youre not going to find the perpetrators and bring them to justice are you we know that 3 attacks on civilians several years ago are being referred by investigators for possible prosecution just 3 out of countless bombing strikes that have repeatedly in this civilian infrastructure shingles or. Change or let me put a foot in it should check surely chump change it look let me put it for the record and he civilians are dead those responsible wherever they are they should be hold accountable they should be but they will be and you know if fact is previous investigations dont encourage up when we really want to have our investigations and when we know what we were some for show 3 thats what mistaken sloan and i say come in many many years to get. Started or we could tell us about what you think the facts i mean yes civilians are dead this is horrible we do the investigations but we need peace we need peace i mean were talking about having peace and its not easy you know the thing is you want to get away from the subject numbers to go to now because they did not let me let me just being so National Standards as bad oh it really is International Justice unfortunately sometimes. Common hand in hand we have to have peace and then wed have Transitional Justice afterwards to get all this done youre the one whos refusing talks with the who thinks thats what you think thats what youve said now your ministry of innovation said it no no no i represent the Foreign Policy feel that we need to park soon however im not going to let the horses get off the hook and her data we went to sweden and we signed a deal they came back one year they havent done anything to prove it should i just let them go off the hook and then move on no they have to be responsible not destroying your country piece by piece child by piece of a nose job i am for a structure that is no loan and continue with this humanitarian disaster one is a documented ass in disasters you think ok son i report look if let me just jump to that why do you think that these are holding it hostage were open to any for internal flights theyre refusing because they want to carry this siege this aggression against them and to hold on to power which they dont have who gave them the right to speak and for and behalf of me on behalf of millions if you have an ease and the use or power and they have the solution of taking us back before 62 will the minister youve dug in your heels the un is seeking unconditional talks unconditional talks between you and the movies youve dug in your to your heels and rejected all the top resident didnt who says so january the 28th floor minister of information said we categorically reject any talk about negotiations x. What we said is i am willing to go now to peace or if were going to talk peace however we need to have the right conditions to god are ok the un wants unconditional talks hala i dont want to go for part b. So they could have a good report for the Sunni Council i want to go untouched peace to make sustainable peace for yemen and if that ruthies would sign degrees sign like what they did in sweden and come back and implement we should actually hold them accountable for implementing something wont let your cherry bomb go on during them because you wont sit down and. All of that is now im just setting clinicians carone im not going to be meddling youre ignoring the advice of these are not innovations were just were just saying they have to implement what this site is that its really hard to ask we cannot just go on by them signing up courts and not implementing anything you know what we did back in 2014 we had a piece the just a few days after the coup 2 days after the call it was the partnership and Peace Agreement you know what they agreed to big rate of partnerships but the security measures they never talked about it why arent you talking about that i mean it is there you want me to i want to again about would you are responsible for most that i understand there are no angels in war but according to International Investigators your forces have nothing to be proud of last year the u. N. Panel of experts on yemen accused all sides in the war of committing horrific abuses from arbitrary killings to rape and torture with impunity so not only have you not won this war you also lost any claim was over i had moral ground to have what you going to claim were angels nobody has we just need to end the 2 i am i can tell you its a long way from being it was government government directly aids it is the losses were not actually deterring forcibly disappeared schools of p. Well we have no respect for the rule of law we do we do but sometimes its really hard to control everything i can tell you but its not systematic killing of the only people like you want to show it to be you know you keep just talking about 2 sides have you been to yemen have you been to sana have you been to i didnt have you been to her did and matter of you listen to the people themselves and that you cant just brush everything as as as you know she has in a divided as a rich countries fighting a poor country that is not the way to end this war and we know theres some atrocities happened i mean we are a few you know a few miles from from just that we know what history is like why continue to block a vital aid goods and fuel from coming into this is a measure of good this is a good question were not actually doing so what we did is were trying to block the. Shipments to come from iran to the who the social rights watch are going to be wrong have been the latest report they say that they said it was a Saudi Led Coalitions restriction on imports have worsened the humanitarian said it were not sure and let me tell you why if you were you know what we said as i was open we were a few kilometers from the port the humanitarian came in the un says you cant do this we said fine lets go to sweden and we need to change this out of School One Year its nothing having let me go back to the question the questions that we had actually holding for the rest of this is not true we have reports from the un pound and said that that youre probably not going to mention that shipments of iranian all youre coming with counterfeit documents today of these for free you know we said by the crease 75 lets just check the papers here saying let me just give me just finish and then ill hear you we just said lets just check the papers the papers came the who he is hold hostage and ask every mercians not to submit the papers so they could get to phony shipments so whos holding that and then we can see that we never go there right now is that mr Human Rights Watch is saying the coalition has delayed and diverted fuel tankers closed critical ports and stopped goods from entering who controlled seaport what is the usual thing and i just finished fuel needed to Power Generators to hospitals and pump water to homes has also hands lock how do you justify preventing the heart of a region asked when i was justifying preventing anything in the past 3 months have been more fuel than that and the in the previous 3 months so you checked the statistics and were talking more than 2 years ago the u. N. High commissioner for human rights big both you and the crew 3 rebels to let splays of food and medicine into the country all parties to the conflict so the panel of experts on yemen have obstructed the distribution of humanitarian assistance the high commissioner begged you under 2 thirds to have mercy on the people of yet you know far as this gone when you are actually doing on. To show mercy on your own people we give you something you know what i dont like something about the un is that they call everyone when they know exactly whos making the problem let me just give you an example a few days ago they had a meeting and brussel above the charter is that the hooters are doing to the humanitarian field you know their want to tax your taxpayers money that comes to yemen so they could steal it im not justifying why we went to a bias against you is this one of those not more dishes want to see in a neutral party you dont want to say ok i am willing to receive any criticism but dont say all the parties tell me what i did wrong and ill fix it but you have to point fingers also at the truth is point finger at me and also point forward at that with if you cannot just paragraph their goal of their point to change the things those are they going on it was clear to them now i know what i do and we are trying to struggle as i said to you earlier government affiliated forces arbitrarily deterring forcibly disappeared schools of people when you say mistakes happen in war they fancy its not you know i mean we i mean give me specifics and we would actually fix them im not saying dont worry you havent read the report but i have read their own experts yes yes and there are plenty of those areas it was handled by as the very 1st reports so it is not you have kids and they were being fired talking about different everybody who violates human rights accuses the ideas of that but mostly its just be more specific so we can know what we talk about we have an expert group which is the un our panel according to that is actually following us recounted that movies are not even never get to santa we believe whatever they say and whatever that is not biased we will check if we have mistakes to do theres another really experts to come from the Human Rights Council the 1st really the 1st report was so by its just took exactly from the propaganda of the who thing and we looked the no we said you cant just have and factual checks you have to check them before you reported and then you can just say you know everyone you know me. Give you some facts 20100 strikes on yemen by the Coalition Forces since the war began an average of 12 attacks a day these attacks have blown up hospitals school buses markets mosques farms bridges factories where no Detention CentersCoalition Air strikes the u. N. Human rights commissioner said in 2017 Coalition Airstrikes continue to be the leading cause of child casualties as well as overall civilian casualties so he didnt know what he was talking about a snatch we leave you i said mission of human rights they have no idea what theyre saying about ben and i told you before but you how do you believe them miss you have to be clear on the report now its a policy of you cant using civilian infrastructure other private so incompetent that they cant tell the difference to him are fed up in him and weve. Had happened then we condemn that and we would continue to years later that if you are half your life you will point out for what they are doing we need to make peace we dont want to continue this war and we have to do it a few just weeks ago a few days ago they are structured hospitals its not rape but we dont want just to dwell on it we want to know what is now required to make peace and i know what is required to make peace we need to crack the illusions talk that joking is required or it is the mark talking over this is going to end as a negotiating table otherwise surely it wont be shared and the sooner it gets there the better and the moment you know what is and prevent those is one in yemen calling the who these no one needs to be done we debated it for 100 days in kuwait and you know what happened at the end they changed their mind you know why because they know that they would have a better thing if they dont sign and fortunately the International Community especially some parties send in the rock singers that maybe if you just hold on to take in yemen hostage you would get a bit of the thats what happened and thats what we need to close the last year as well as fighting the who 3 rebels who became embroiled in another civil war. Or this time with the forces in the cells in the nose the Transitional Council so not only are you failing to beat the who feeds you cant even keep your own side together and you cannot ignore the group that i was about that if it was not a great record now let me talk about that as a precaution what happened myself is another complication that is not 12 months of course you know and very want to seed determined to succeed on the comp of complication what it is it wont of its really hard to discuss something without really properly those just in of where this is actually happening if the f. T. C. Our brothers and the f. C. C. Really really represent all cell phones it would be an easy problem to solve the s. T. C. Have a problem with southrons themselves not with the f. C. C. Is s. T. C. Is just students outside the control of the government that has bee