Protesters clashed with riot police in polands capital city bus, thousands rally to mark the nations independence and germany has recorded a Record Number of new corona virus cases. The Public Health agency reveals a need, a new trend in who is becoming infected with china has yet to congratulate americas new president elect. Joe biden lost his visit as Vice President to beijing in 2011 is allowing one restaurant to savor a bite and dumps a new taste of success. And welcome to the program. China has condemned the mass resignation of prodemocracy lawmakers in hong kong as quote, political fasts and a blatant challenge. The opposition blocks to don imus after 4 of their colleagues were expelled from parliament for china, described as being unpatriotic. A new day in the Hong Kong Legislature without prodemocracy lawmakers. The seats are usually occupied by hong kongs democratic parliamentarians. But now theyre empty. As the session got underway a day after the mass walkout, one of the lot, mike is resigning and solidarity staged a protest. Rolling out a banner in the foyer, i just felt as against the chief executive decision to disqualify Police Officials absolute have said that the state used to disqualify the this is city council and yet that way, if they were the last remaining prodemocracy lawmakers in hong kong they resigned in solidarity with their colleagues who were deemed threats to National Security by beijing. Its yet another blow for the proDemocracy Movement. I got that they got over the decision made by the n. P. C. S. C. Is ridiculous. It shows that the Central Government has completely given up on the basic law and the principle of one country 2 systems. Beijing defended the new resolution and denied it is restricting Hong Kong Special freedoms. They were implemented in 997. 00, after the city was handed to back to china from british rule. Germany not tell me where you went, you think 20 this year. It is a necessary measure, in order to maintain the rule of law in hong kong. And the Constitutional Order of the special autonomous region, if you they fight it is rational and reasonable. And in line with the constitution and laws. Beijing recently moved to clamp down on opposition, voices in hong kong by imposing a National Security law. After months of antigovernment, protests rocked the city last year. Hong kong semi autonomous status was originally guaranteed until 2047. But for some, the end date has already arrived. Now for more on this story, lets bring in the beijing joyously in hong kong. Welcome to you, boyce joyce. Lets start with you. The lawmakers there have just handed in their resignations. What theyve been saying, yes, most of them have already had that in their estimation. And they would take you back on today, tomorrow or the 1st off this and that convener all democratic him, which he why set that he hopes at a mosque recitation, which showed the entire world how ridiculous it is baiting secession to expel the 4. Prodemocracy lawmakers as well as how beijing has totally destroyed the one country 2 systems framework at home. China has called this mass resignation, a political fost. What does this kind of language mean that china, sometimes i have a way with words in that regard does not only call this a farce, it has also, it has also called this a blatant challenge to the Central Government. I think its up to the Central Government to decide whether they want to be challenged by a fast. But the language is not unusual. This is how china reacts when it feels that something is really at stake. China has moved forward with controlling hong kong in the past few months. It has disqualified these 4 lawmakers, but it has also rescheduled or postponed the elections that were due in september. So anyway, this parliament was already a parliament by the grace of beijing. And it was pretty clear that opposition plays no role in what he sees as the future for hong kong joys. One consequence of this is that the prodemocracy Democracy Movement has now lost its voice in, in the let me just attempt to how will they continue . Yes, with the thats qualification for prodemocracy lawmakers yesterday and the monstrous a nation that follows hong kong legislation is in a fact becoming a single for use Legislature Without any meaningful opposition voices in the council. So a lot of the resigned lawmakers are saying that they will fight on outside the Legislative Council, but a lot of heat hold out that under the National Security law in beijing, in july its possible to, you know, attack the streets, keep the protests going on. Joys some say that this mosque was a mission then, as you just said inadvertently played into into chinas true actually in yesterdays press conference, hong kongs leader carried, im sad. She was excited because the Legislative Council would be more effectively saying, proposed by the government. So on the moderates press, the nation is actually within the calculation of the probation camp and it has you know, some prodemocracy supporters are criticizing that. It is too late for the lawmakers to resign. They should have resigned, you know, a month earlier this legislature, but this building in beijing joyously in hong kong. Thank you very much for your contribution time now to another look at some of the other stories making headlines around the world. Typhoon vanco has lashed the philippines, leaving millions without power. Rescue teams were overwhelmed in america, kenya, city, close to the capital manila where around half the houses have been flooded. Its the 3rd typhoon to hit the philippines within as many weeks. The storm has now weakened and is heading towards vietnam. Protesters have taken to the streets for 3rd day in armenia, calling for the resignation of the Prime Minister. He sparked anger by giving up large parts of the disputed nagornokarabakh region in order to seal a Peace Agreement in the conflict with neighboring azerbaijan, for a summit on libyas future achieve, the breakthrough talks in tunisia sponsored by the un, the conflict parties sketched out a roadmap to elections within 18 months, the negotiations are the latest push to end a decade of violence in libya. Polish nationalists and right wing extremists have clashed with police at a march in the capital city was told the rally to mark polands Independence Day went ahead despite a bad gatherings imposed its scuffles between the police and far right. Protesters in Warsaw Police in riot gear. Use pepper spray and rubber bullets to push back the demonstrators after they threw stones and firecrackers thousands of fight a ban on public gatherings due to the coronavirus pandemic, and marched on warsaw streets to mark polands Independence Day. The far right groups who organize the march had asked protesters to take part in their cars to respect social distancing. Many stuck to the plan, others parked their cars and continued on foot. Marchers waved banners with n. T. L. G. B. Team messages chanted slogans of god, honor and homeland, and called for more sovereignty. For poland. I call on the government to start behaving like the government of an independent state to start behaving in a server in way to stop kneeling in front of the capitals of brussels, berlin, and washington. It was the holiday commemorates polish independence after world war one. But in recent years, massive marches organized by far right groups have frequently led to clashes with left wing groups and police. Organizers say the marches are a display of patriotism. But for many in the country, they are celebration of nationalism and far right extremism. In germany, the Public Health institute is warning that its expecting an uncontrolled spread of covert teen infections in some parts of the country. Numbers are still rising rapidly despite a partial National Lockdown bars and restaurants. More than 20000 cases have been recorded in a single day, intensive care occupancy has more than doubled in the past few weeks. The whole bad cop institutes germanys Public Health body is warning of more deaths to come. The Health Minister says was strictures are likely to last through the winter. The institutes president has urged people to keep socialising to a minimum and says the situation is already serious. Defied sounds in 2 men right now. The number of cases is very high, need a few months leading to a lot of people missing work and not come apart of me. Speaking a lot of people are becoming seriously ill and may possibly sell for long term effects or even die. Any response, we need to accept that the situation is going to get worse. Over the coming weeks. Some clinics could reach the limits of their capacity when its possible that patients will not be able to receive optimum care. And some cases, im not on the political correspondent, thomas sparrow. Thomas, germany is still recalling high numbers of new infections. Intensive care if youre pencey has doubles. Put that in perspective for us regarding total capacity. Well, its certainly a very serious situation that some of that Germanys Health institute, the robert costa institute, also acknowledged, although the head of the institute said he was also cautiously optimistic by the fact that the had started to flatten. Although he also specifically stressed that they are not sure where that is coming from and whether its something that can be considered to be stable. Specifically, when you talk about the situation in german hospitals, they have been stressing that the situation now is worse than it was actually in april, during the 1st wave of the coronavirus pandemic. Many hospitals certainly saying that they are at the limits of their capacity yet at the same time when you look, for example, at the number of available i. C. U. Beds, you can still clearly see that there are around 6500 available i. C. U. Beds here in germany, nation wide. So on the one hand, obviously very serious situation. On the other hand, german officials still stressing that the Health System overall is not necessarily overwhelmed. But the main concern is still that the virus is spreading very fast and if it continues spreading very fast, then the Health System in general will certainly become overwhelmed. Thats exactly what German Authorities want to prevent. That is exactly why germany is now in this possible lockdown. Speaking about whats on many peoples minds right now. Christmas is only 6 weeks away and millions will want to travel to their families. Can we expect the government to introduce even tougher measures later in the year . It is still unclear how the government specifically will react for them to decide what the next steps will be. In particular, when were talking about the christmas weeks, they still have to wait and see whether the partial lockdown will have an effect and not only an immediate effect, but also a stable effect. Thats what authorities are actually waiting for. We still have to wait another day, another few days, maybe even another week to see if the lockdown is having a concrete effect on the number of coronavirus cases in germany. Before authorities, both at the federal level and at the regional level, decide what the next steps will be and what exactly germans will be able to do during the christmas weeks. Thank you, tony. Thats a look now at some of the other developments in the pandemic. Ukraines president Vladimir Putin has been hospitalized after contracting covert, 19 earlier this week. The death toll in the u. K. Has passed 50000. Thats higher than any other european country. New york has ordered restaurants bars and gyms to close a 10 pm. Private gatherings are now limited to 10 people there. And organizers of the tokyo lympics next years day athletes will not be required to isolate isolate. For 14 days. The games have been delayed by a year. France is also fighting to control a 2nd wave of covert 19 daily infection. Numbers are the highest in europe, and yet the lock down there is less strict than during the 1st wave. The government is trying to strike a balance between protecting health and preserving the economy, but not everyone is happy about that approach. With calls from powers for even under lockdown. The french are taking to the streets as opposed to doing the 1st 1000. 00 wave schools here are staying open, but teachers dont feel safe. We have between 20. 25 pupils per class. We are trying to impose social distancing. But in our classrooms, we can, it may have a distance of 40 centimeters between each pupil. Not just among simmers. You see we were hoping the government would reinforce sanitary measures, but they havent already least not sufficiently. So we dont understand that. We fear the government is abandoning us to lash out. They are getting support from their pupils who have been blocking School Entrances and posting videos online that show a lack of social distancing. Also unlike during the 1st coded 1000. 00 ways, more shops open and large parts of frances industry are still up and running. And yet, this is still one of europes strictest. Lockdowns with people only allowed one hour a day and only within a radius of one kilometer of their homes. Most french think the government was right to confine them. But many criticize the method. I dont understand why big supermarkets are no longer allowed to sell books, clothes or toys, just because small shops that sell the same things are closed. The government is just not good at explaining itself. This group cause lots of unemployment and bankruptcy. Why are they leaving big supermarkets open up about closing smaller shops . Megastores often take in hundreds of clients and small shops, only one or 2 think theyre much safer. And yet the government is staying the course. Even though the spread of the epidemic has been slowing down, thanks new and were seeing 1st indications that the measures are producing an effect. But it is too early to lift restrictions. The situation is still very grave and the epidemic is continuing to gain ground, continue to gain new down. The number of people in intensive care is still going up with more than 93 percent of now required by code with 19 patients. The government says after it could reach the breaking point from primary 3, and many people here are now they might have to spend christmas on the lockdown. Organizers of the Paris Peace Forum expecting pledges of 500000000. 00 to help make covert 19 vaccines globally accessible. France and the European Commission expected just put up around a 5th of the total speaking at the forum, the head of the World Health Organization has urged people to remain vigilant, even though they might be tired of coronavirus restrictions. In italy, people in a care home have found a unique way of reconnecting with their loved ones during the pandemic. Thanks to specially designed how groups, elderly patients are able to safely embrace and even kissed their family members for the 1st time in more than 6 months. Staff say the hugs and holding have brought much joy back to the home. Some more News Headlines right now, violent clashes broke out in perus capital, lima, after the former head of congress model, marino was sworn in as the new president. The protests follow the removal of the previous leader. Martin and his demonstrators accuse lawmakers, a hijacking the presidency and plunging through into crises. Both the u. S. President and the president elect have attended a separate, separate veterans day event. Stunnel trump attended ritual. A ceremony at Arlington National cemetery. It was his 1st official public appearance since losing the election. Joe biden, a marked the day that honors american servicemen and women at the Korean War Memorial in philadelphia. Luminary, us president elect joe biden, has chosen his longtime aide rate one client as his white house chief of staff claim was key for a key figure. During the president ial campaign, he has already served as bidens top lieutenant during Barack Obamas 1st term. When biden was Vice President , now china has not yet congress elated u. S. President elect joe biden on his victory saying the outcome would be determined by u. S. Laws and procedures. But there is one place in the capital, beijing that is already profiting from a biden bounce. That is a restaurant that he visited back in 2011. This noodle joint in downtown beijing has been popular for years with local residents and tourists. But recently a new group of visitors as shown up national and international media. All came here yesterday by accident. But today i fear our status quo money. Johnny of the town here. Thats not a starbucks surprise. Funny. Actually. The reason is americas new president elect in 2011, joe biden, americas then Vice President had lunch here. And then president , we felt very honored to say that he had his lunch and talk to our chinese customers,. You know how i felt he was a very decent and easy going person. If mrs. E. , i was father opened this traditional beijing restaurant in 1996. Mr. Bidens visit the restaurant has become well known beyond the city. This is how does not want to talk politics, but her preferences are clear enough to back down, because biden came to our restaurant. Many people in china got to know us. I was like him out, they know he came job place to try traditional beijing dishes and they wanted to try them out themselves and only yes it. Thats why we feel very positive about him. He might even say we are supportive change the restaurant serves traditional beijing dishes noodles, pork buns and live a stew. Its a simple neighborhood joint. The chinese public quickly noted the modest choice at the time biden paid just 12 u. S. Dollars for a lunch of 5 people. This really shows how nice the food is here. It means chinese cuisine has already made it to the world. The u. S. And china may now be pitted against each other as rivals on the world stage. But when it comes to noodle, diplomacy misses ya. This restaurant is coming out with now a story of true bravery and basketball in somalia, it takes targets for women to take part in the sport. And those girls who do not only face anger from their own families for playing the game they love. They also get Death Threats from muslim extremists, basketball practice in mogadishu, in blistering heat. Its a tough routine for the all female team. However, its not only these conditions that make it hard. Most of the girls come here against the wishes of their family and theres also the constant threat of attack by gunmen who think women should not play sport publicly. While out of mogadishu is risky, we cannot openly say we are going to play. But we put our playing clothes and shoes and bags and carry them like that to the field. And we pretend were going to school or university mission, despite the insecurity and with no government that encourages also thoughts. We still love playing basketball or hit a house or not. Katherine is some men and the coach is happy to have a space to play at all. Now if no one supports us, that gives us a quick mind and we do not have anyone supporting the players with uniforms, balls and shoes. We even do not have a proper court. They may have a good idea that the local commissioner, however, backs them and offer the space for free. Other than that, its enthusiasm and dedication that keeps them going. Before islam is the tax urged, somalia had a National Womens team. And Nasser Mohammad was a player for them. This enables her to pursue her and helped the girls come back and i decided to train girls after i saw that the girls enjoyed and needed someone to train them as this is also a voluntary organisation. So i came to train them for dowser trained. She would love to make it into the national team, but there hasnt been one for the past 7 years. For now, the dream of one day be able to play in the open again, and maybe starting teams across somalia keeps the girls going up to gold now. And the u. S. Masters is under way delayed to 7 months by the virus during a final practice round. Spaniard don rob hit a shot, a simply has to be seen to be believed to have a lot. He skimmed the ball over the water on purpose, which pretty is impressive in itself, and he manages to get on to the green. Unfortunately, the pandemic means there are no paying spectators this week, but thankfully, the cameras are rolling as the ball then winds its way down the slope and wait for it was one of the greatest goal shots ever played. And the perfect birthday present for rock on the eve of the masters penguins might not be the 1st thing that come to mind when you think of south africa. In fact, the once abandoned sea bird is only holding on by a flip of only 13000 breeding pads left in the wild. But South African researches hope they can stop them from going extinct planning to release thousands of pounds with chicks along the western cape. The goal is for the birds to form a new colony for the african penguins. Back from the brook. Ive been watching the news. Heres a reminder of the top story were following for you. China has condemned a mass resignation by prodemocracy lawmakers in hong kong. As a protest at the dismissal of 4 colleagues before was sucked under a new law imposed by beijing, which disqualifies politicians deemed to be threats to National Security. Thats it. Up to date, next up, conference on the steps of asked back at the top of the all, lose more news. Enter the conflict zone with tim sebastian, britains Prime Minister, the 1st youngster news on the 5 once again. Not least for members of his own conservative party. My guest this week here in london is one of his junior m. P. s been mouthful lami elected to parliament 3 years ago. Come mr. Johnson, the whole teams coming. Slide, in the opinion, polls and what will the party do if you come conflicts of next on the most you give us your country, people will make you rich people. Oil will provide you with jobs going to be oh, well take good care of my friends at least i think going to fever, took hold on the west coast to come out in 2007. The story made promises. But years later, reality looks very different. Richard ricci is going to Drinking Water shortage on such a good does is a good time in this case. What happened to john, a stream of black gold oil promises starts december 4th, w. Well, i say what im fed up with can be 19. The problem is, 2900 isnt telling us. Well, i agree that hindsight is a great thing, but rewriting history isnt a great thing, is it . Britains Prime Minister, Boris Johnson is under fire. Once again, not least from members of his own conservative party. I think serious handling of the pandemic threats it and a string of. Busy u. Turns on key policy. My guest this week here in london is one of his junior m. P. s very powerful army, elected to parliament 3 years ago. Can mr. Johnson hold his parents live in the opinion polls, and what will the party do if you count them or follow me . Welcome to comfort zone. Good to be here. I want to look at 1st, the governments handling of the pandemic in recent months. We know that a vaccine now appears imminent, but after a decade of conservative rule, britain was woefully unprepared to deal with this pandemic any pandemic, wasnt it . Despite numerous warnings and dress rehearsals, why was your party asleep on the job for so many years . Well, i think what we saw with the pandemic was that the vast, vast majority of countries found themselves unprepared for it. And the reason for that, the fundamental reason for that was that the nature of the pandemic wasnt quite what was previously expressed. What was going to say expect, what was generally expected by most countries was something that resembled lou. I realize it was different, but look at the figures before the coronavirus hit, the u. K. Had just 6. 00 intensive care beds per 100000. People. Thats fewer than latvia. Fewer than cyprus, half the number that italy had, and about a 5th of german capacity, 5th largest economy in the world. And the provisions for intensive care, what woefully inadequate werent they . Well, if youre talking about intensive care beds, there is clearly a point around excess capacity, and how much is sensible to maintain avons know that there were people from the german Health System who visited the n. H. S. This is all preplanned. Id like to talk about how they could manage their capacity more effective. So i think that both of us can learn from each other. Indeed, most Health Systems can reach where you claimed in may that the government had been as decisive and prompt as it could have been in meeting the challenge. But thats not a widely held view among the governments scientific advisors. Is it the u. K. s chief scientific officer Patrick Vallance admitted that didnt. He said in july, its clear the outcome has not been good in the u. K. I think you can be absolutely clear about that. Are you now absolutely clear about that . Well, the outcome has not been good because many thousands of people died. So anybody says it was the outcome was good, it is wrong, but i say, well, it was true in boyle ice Age Committee on the Scientific Group for emergencies. Said if the government had acted a week or 2 earlier, it would have made quite a big difference to the death wrecked. So the government still cant bring itself to admit that can it might well. The truth is that hindsight is a wonderful thing. And the scientific advisors have given a little, i thought, huge respect for letting an incredibly difficult job. But they gave different times contradictory advice. I remember when they were saying the masks shouldnt people. Now, if i says to a must wife, they change that advice, not because theyre incompetent or said it wrong because we learnt more about the virus as time went on in the same way that governments and politicians of lance and Civil Servants have learned more about how to manage this as time went on, and as i said at the beginning, we do need to learn lessons and they survive how we manage our excess capacity with beds. How we manage our state capacity around testing the best other things. But, you know, this really, really was enough to see in crisis in many respects, hence why the things that were grappling with in this country, same things all across europe. And indeed the World Governments in trying to manage. Well, i agree that hindsight is a great thing, but rewriting history isnt a great thing. Is it this claim by the government that everybody who needed care was able to get that care . This from the Health Secretary mount have clark in july. That wasnt backed up by the facts, was it thanks to a sunday times investigation . We now know the system or tree are tool as it was called, had been devised, which meant that many people over the age of 60 were denied the lifesaving treatment they needed. Theres direct testimony from doctors to back that up. So the truth of the matter is somewhat different to the way the government now portrays it, isnt it . Well, thats not my understanding of it. My understanding of it is, of course, in any Health Care System like a country like united, there is a judgment, bacon. Im sure of what it and of course, im the stress. Then there were times when they wanted to not sh people in the hospital for as long as they otherwise might because of the huge pressure on their own Health Service. But it was the same problems with seeing in lots of countries. This blanket, this blanket version of everybody who needed care was able to get that care is not true. Talk to remeasure parama. Chairman of the Doctors Association u. K. Said the lect lockdown 1st time around, allowed the infections to spread across the country. More than the Health Service could come up with start. He said, had to tell many critically unwell patients who needed lifesaving treatment that they would not receive that treatment. Thats not the same as everybody who needed care was able to get that care is a big difference there. Well, of course youve got a lot of people now saying, oh if only the law bank account for 2 weeks before when people children out of the treatment, mustapha lami, there were tonight treatment. They were told the same from the chairman of the british medical association. Dr. Chan my course at the same thing, it is manifestly the case. He said that large numbers of patients did not receive the care that they needed, and thats because the Health Service didnt have the resources cant be clearer than that can exact opposite of mr. Hancocks blanket assurances, well, i dont think anybody tonight is that in june, july of this year, Health Services under strain. Look, i cant offer every individual case, of course, and some hospitals. They cancel a mainframe, a difficult decisions around who got treated in well particular way. How quickly and so on. But i think that the idea that somehow, if only the government had done the blanket lockdown a week earlier, and none of these problems would have occurred, i think is wrong. I also see when i look at other come, yes, some countries went into lockdown and then they have a live concert just later in the year at a time when the United Kingdom didnt have it. Theres a basic issue of trust here is not if you cant trust the government to admit to mistakes or failures, then you certainly cant trust it to learn from them. Can you . Well, i think you make a very valid point around the tone of how we talk about this. And i think that we need to, you know, actually i think the way the governments approached, the news of the facts has been very muted, very coming in, not sort of saying, oh, its all over. Its all going to be fine. I think the good ones have when youve got something, so im expecting difficult as in a virus that people still dont fully understand. And yes, i think that earlier on in the pandemic, it was a tendency some, i think, all occasions generally, but often have this tendency. Is to always show the best Case Scenario when its the nile incident took time in ways that will help with everybody about some of the difficulties perhaps of the whole isnt it . Thats an appalling admission. Because at the time of an International Health crisis, you would think you could get the truth from the government and theyve been high, is not know what they need homeland over the coals by the statistics watchdog time and time again for putting out shoddy. Tator, havent they in june the head of the statistics or thora to accuse the government of continuing to mislead the public over the number of covert tests carried out. The aim it says seems to be to show the largest possible number of tests, even at the expense of understanding last week. The office for statistics regulation warned that the use of data has not consistently been supported by transparent information provided in a timely manner. And youre happy about that, are you . Well, i think that the difficulty with data is that statisticians will have very long arguments about how best to present something or have rigorously one might argue to present something. Since the governments watchdog. This is the government somewhat saying that well, well it is, it is, it is the government statistical watchdog. However, the way the statistics are put out, that was how from the department of health will or number 10 downing street. Ready actually the speed with which were trying to put out the information for all sometimes means that the state School Authorities do not have the time or not given the time to fully put their, their view of how that information could be best presented in just a matter of course, you can have an argument, i said, parliamentary committees where we spend hours the basic, how the right way is that theres this law to be presented in different ways. I dont think actual governments done anything other than trying present as much information as quickly as possible to the public. The only failing often it hasnt done a good job, has it. If its own watchdog is holding it over the coals, you said in july, the governments efforts to date to tackle covered 900. Have been rather impressive. Would you like to revise that opinion given some of the things that weve been talking about . Well, no, i was talking about the government and the government has done it everything. It could not cause there were mistakes made one never deny that there were states made in every single gunshot, admitting them rather than not admitting them. Theyre still rewriting history. Theyre still saying that everybody who needed care got it. Well, thats manifestly untrue from the counsellor and doctors say thats not true if you take the issue of testing. For example, ive seen the house actually in the house of commons repeatedly say, look, you know, we know we are testing enough. People are trying to increase the number of tests were having. For example, i seen the chancellor get up and say look, you know we, weve done this so response to economic challenge and actually now were going to add to it like i listen to people like her that we need support other people in get from this i dont think the government has been sort of blinded as to any of the right 1st time. I dont care whether, you know, youve, even if even had criticism of the, of the data from the former Prime Minister to reason may. She said last week, for many people, it looks as if the figures are chosen to support the policy rather than the policy being based on the figures thats a crushing indictment for such a senior figure in your party, isnt it . It is a crushing indictment and what she was referring to in that was she was inferring to the chief scientific medical officers that they say relation to the sort of month long lockdown that england is, has now been brought into. And these were same people, as you quoted earlier, criticising the government, i suppose, what im saying this is, there are, this is in a moment of unprecedented stress on the british state, the british Health System. And sometimes everybody within that system or sometimes got things wrong. But i do not believe that is in any way a judgment on the motives, i think on some level, the speed and the strain with which people but under as needed. But sometimes the data may not have been corrected a particular point. Nobody, nobody has ever suggested or should ever suggest that somehow the government hasnt tried to give the best quality information timely manner. Well, you say that, but the fact is, the very vocal and senior members of your party are now fed up with the government and saying it publicly are there. Theyre fed up of the lot that theyre fed up with the loss of some plaster, the boosterism, the gross exaggerations that have no basis in reality and that shoddy data once you fed up with all this is, well i say what im fed up with only 19 the problem is kind of 90 doesnt fill up with us and im fed up with a lot and i want to be able to do everything i want and im not fed up with the u. Turns the constant u. Turns on policy. We had at the end of August Charles walker, vice chair of the 922. 00 back bench committee, who said its becoming increasingly difficult to promote and defend government policy. As so often that policy is changed or abandoned without notice. The climate of uncertainty it creates, he said, is sustainable. This is one of the big beasts of your party actually coming out now and saying enough of this enough of these, you turns out you arent really, i thought i thought huge respect charles. But i think thats a bit over the top. I think walks has made us fed up, as i said, is, is, is the lockdown because nobody wanted to, to go back into that. And reluctant, Prime Minister has a season progresses, not one state was forced. And the result of him having to take as made a lot of concerts when he was created because the conservative party we do not like infringing on anyones liberty, that has made a lot of people frustrated, myself included. Yes. A lot of people, a lot of people in the president of the sick, a lot of people in the country arent impressed either calling to you. Gov. 69 percent of the country thinks this government has handled the pandemic fairly badly or very badly. Only 3 percent. Think its done very well. Its us poll is asked if Boris Johnson is incompetent, or resoundingly 54 percent said yes. Do you share that view . Im afraid opinion polls will say one thing, one day and something else. The other. I know judgment your party is trying to quote them when they like them. The judgment on how we have done in managing this virus really will only be able to be made once the whole situation crisis is over. I remember when people in ng are saying that we dont make mistakes then through most of the summer, people are saying swedens got everything right now. Some people are saying, oh, well swedens, having a surge, maybe they made some mistakes. The truth is that only at the end of we really be able to judge how each government has managed and its very, very difficult in the moment to do it, especially so many people have died. So many jobs lost. So its not a very, its very convenient to push the judgement on to some period when perhaps the conservative party is out of government to not deal with things now, but the opportunity to learn lessons is now, and we know you mentioned the test and trace system well, thats been a fiasco, hasnt it . After mr. New turns. Dido harding who runs it, had to apologize. The Prime Minister talked about the failures of fact is your party spent gigantic sums around 10000000000 pounds on a system that doesnt work. How do you explain this shattering figure . Well, i think that the difficulty with test trace is as he passed the test, it actually made huge strides. The difficulty was the tracing and the isolating of individual contacts. I happen to think that our chance of mass testing are going well in liverpool than elsewhere. Once that is rolled out and it be rolled out quite soon. I think that that trace will be a lot easier to do. And so what i hope will happen actually now Going Forward and this isnt minimizing the difficulties with the chief, which you described. Its just that Going Forward. Now, i hope that actually spits of that test and chases them will be improved. Well, look, spending, you know, billions of pounds on something that isnt as effective as you like, is not, is not a good thing to do. And of course, we dont want, and i look at a country like germany where people were haven, germany for quality of its essence a system. And yet germany went into a National Lockdown a couple of weeks ago because they had a surge in cases. I know michel salami that very important questions about some of the companies brought in to run this test and trade system of the biggest beneficiary was a Company Called serco. Isnt it odd that the government paid hundreds of millions of pounds to this company, but was fined over 19000000. 00 pounds last year for misconduct and its tagging service for the ministry of justice, apparently that misconduct included charging for offenders who were dead. Nothing out there that this company is rewarded them with a massive contract. Now by this government, you honestly think its acceptable to reward a company with contracts like that when it has a record of the kind ive just described. Well i, if, when i was on the public accounts committee, public spending watchdog here in parliament, i looked at certain events detail and, you know, have a look at exactly how they do things. And of course, sometimes theyve made mistakes. You make the point around minister of justice, but of course it is right and completely proper gave a contract, but company who is trying to deliver what its been asked to do. And nobody is saying the reason why the testing traces them to not is because of circuit it is because of the huge complex youre doing or trying what this countrys trying to do. I mean, the, what lots of other countries are also struggling with doing it is wrong to suggest that somehow theres something in a judgment about using an offensive efficient private company to try and help deliver public goods. Because if you dont believe any private company should be involved with anything, then you should say, well, why such an interesting is youve set an interesting precedent here. A record of gross misconduct is no bar to getting contracts from this government. Im puzzled that you find that acceptable when there are so many countries out there that dont have records of gross misconduct. Well, its not about winning. When you tender for a contract as a government, you could have tender and you will examine that on its merits or not. Is that if the decision should, if, if the contract should have gone to another company. By all means, thats an argument that one can have on the basis of the evidence presented as to maybe why another company may have been able to get more facts. But its room, and thats one thing in the huge number of contracts circa has for the British Government over many, many years now. The one area where things are going wrong in relation to an unrelated Arab Initiative fence, or if you have just somehow makes it so they should never, ever deliver a project for the british. So wrong thing to be got to try to work with our private sector to get the best outcome too. And you can, you cant have, you know, not to have a cabinet and you think they have to do it. If that happens, youve got to have accountability, and this is something that the government manifestly doesnt like. We saw at the beginning of october Health Secretary, matt hancock was in the house of commons. Maybe you were there too. He was asked by an m. P. About the difficulties of getting tests for his constituents, but instead of overing a full and frank answer, hancock told him, i will not have this divisive language. I just wont have it. He then sat down without addressing the question at all. Im wondering, do you think that kind of arrogance is acceptable from a minister . Who last time i looked was a Public Servant paid for out of the public purse . Do you think thats an acceptable answer . I will not have this divisive language. I just wont have it perfectly. Innocent question about testing in this mans constituency. Well, i dont recall the exact question that you said so, so i cant comment on that. What i can say from what youve told me is the sometimes the house of commons can be a very heated place. And im sure all. And if ever i always, you know, whenever im in the house of commons, i always try to remain as calm as possible, but im not under stress. The Health Sector 3 is currently under. And so i think bearing in mind how much time is spent on his feet and many questions, exams, if he has, if hes been sort of inadvertently stressed when hes answered, a particular m. P. I dont think that should be hanging offense. I think, you know, hes under stress like that, but many people at the top of government and im sure i know that the Health Sector is doing absolutely everything, everything it can to improve the situation. We are, we understand stress, but we also understand that if you are stressed and you say things like that, you can apologize later as far as we know, there was no apology to the gentleman concerned. What are the house and the house actually can speak for itself . What i will just say to stress again is, is the house of commons can be a pretty aggressive place as it should be, because its, its a vibrant democracy. And sometimes sometimes things come out not quite in the way that you otherwise would have liked. So i dont think that we should, we should condemn either the person asking the question of the health of intemperate language. Well, lets talk if we may about brets it briefly that this came to a head in september with the governments declared intention to Reach International law and renege on parts of the bracks it Withdrawal Agreement relating to northern ireland. Spectacular act of bad faith wasnt this point in the negotiations . No, i dont think it was an act about actually whats, what this was were were 3 particular instances of making sure that in the event where there was no breaks in the event that the dispute resolution mechanisms have under the Withdrawal Agreement do not reach out. We have to make sure the main unity and the coherence of our own United Kingdom was intact. And that is my sure, and i mean for signing the agreement last year. You signed it in good faith and you intend to break it in bad faith. There are out there are ways of changing the text of this if you wanted to buy dispute resolution, but you chose to do it unilaterally when it was too much for the governments top legal officials to jonathan jones, who resigned in protest. Were going live to los angeles, it just says im from torys about this. Well, what actually is the case is this would only come into effect if there is no agreement trade deal. If the dispute resolution mechanisms are completely exhausted, so this, this would only occur this causes would only come into force in the unlikely, unlikely situation that those 2 things were the case. Well, youve got the obstacle with the new biden and ministration, the u. S. , which takes a similar view as the e. U. Theyve already slammed this decision to remain on the withdraw treaty is passed. Johnson going to have to go cap in hand to the u. S. And offer one more u. Turn another day, another policy reversal. Pretty humiliating, isnt it . Well, and im pretty sure the Prime Minister will get on well with the new president. And im also sure that regardless of some relationship, institutional reasons why Prime Minister united in the present United States become and work closely together is because of the relationship between between our 2 countries. So i dont believe what the, my understanding of what biden team was worried about was the idea that somehow we would compromise the good friday agreement in overnight. And weve been absolutely resolute about the measures. In fact, find i 91 them closer together. And we absolutely will not compromise on the well, nobody believes that because youre in a door, youre intending to relay go international agreement, only vote. Countries do that, dont they . Its hardly something that the British Government wants to be known for around the world, but it is now its word doesnt count for anything signs an agreement. And then a few months later says, im not going to abide by that. What trust do you think can be ever invested in the British Government again, while its looking for trade deals around the world . Well, weve recently signed a trade deal with japan. That was a very comprehensive and free trade deal, frankly went further than most people, myself included, it takes effort in areas lane, you got out of it, the very deal. It wasnt as good as the one that the has with japan and i, i reject that. Actually, if i look at provisions in particular, around financial services, they are much further than what the e. U. Has, which a plan. And if you will, if you want the broader point around trust is an important one. And i will repeat, you know, that the very remote scenarios in which these particular clauses may come into effect. But a lot of the problem was actually, oh, and i think the government and in certain parts does mean what is around how we communicate, what were trying to make sure that people do not think that somehow its our intention to break all these international agreements. Now, im not blaming the media, its awful. We need to communicate much more heavily, much more. Thats why were taking so and he do that continuing, continuing, Going Forward. And im hopeful that there will be no breakdown in trust with this country. As i say, the japanese government doesnt seem to think that theres a breakdown in trust with britain or ive been my phenomena. Its been good to have your own conflicts. So thank you very much. Thanks to the im going to come out the to cut cut, cut, cut. Cut to the boy did this person the bear on the book. There is a mosque that can be done the break up your own mind. The best the fight against the coronavirus pandemic has the rate of infection been developing. 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