And then you kind and mother and baby were united up to 4 months of hans. We find out why campaign is one of the conclusion of this case to spock. Legislative change the handle, im tony. A lot of people welcome to the program. For the 3rd time in 2 years, fronds is being forced to withdraw its troops from a west african country. First from molly, then book enough also. And now these, yeah, these 3 countries based just had hist, insurgencies, which the french would that to help suppress. But all 3 have since had military takeovers which the former colonial power has opposed. The 3 west african countries have since announced a new security packed to tackle that you had is to tax. Thousands of people continued to flee. The violence though, as dw found from a village in these yeah, near the border with money and onset, and you live the idp kemp insect quota up to that as eczema, not flat, his own village. After seeing its limits, terrace to his neighbors. He managed to escape with his family at the last minute of equipment. You dont quite know how we have suffered sewing much because of the terrorists. We were forced to leave the village. The terrace warned us that we didnt believe them at 1st. Then one day they came and then all of our grain storage took away our livestock and destroyed all of our positions. And that was the day we fled to the till a busy region you can get through kind of how are you . Im, im off, im having lots to animals and was no line to call to wait the message. You sign a dire situation here. The local government has given them a place to put that makes if tuts, but nothing more. But women try to earn some money. Weavings, trauma at the zone. We go to the weekly local market and try and sell maps to so that we can, but at least some necessities to feed the family content. Is that correct community is taking in more than 3000. 00 refugees at 1st. The locals. Welcome then. But then conflicts of a land and water stopped and thats why the may is spinning a hope on the new military government. She expects the hood to get the security crisis on the control so that the id piece can. Finally, we turn it into just the last few days has been really good. The army has moved in to secure the area thats inside the id piece themselves. Want to go back to their villages, but what they really need 1st is psychological support. Many id piece i traumatized, but the daily struggle for survival overrides everything. Water is the biggest problem. Every drop has to be paid for the low coup pump to open come evening, there is no water left. But today im so i have to lap is lucky. Few minutes to fill is can this the, for a price you can afford label it the demand for water res, huge and people come here all day long. Wait for the displace people who come to get water from the palm. We sometimes sell it to them at a lower price lower than for the locals, because we know that they dont have enough money. Thats one w one. See any i so as, as he is a kemp ada, he tries to spread confidence in the community and to comp time plus if conflicts with the locus overall to arise for him, hope has no return regarding how can use since the day with the military had taken power, weve had high hopes that will be able to return to our respective villages. Because weve already heard that the mood she had during the fast and all the cavities, to drive the terrorist out by what are ready to go. So this up to me isnt in the town hall to the new the announce Defense Alliance between molly book, you know, for us a night is inspiring, more confidence than the old cooperation with fonts that will open up. We have no other partners than this alliance. We welcome did very, very favorably love home. We hope it supports the authorities. Above all, we welcome this part of the ship because it could help grab our around to get that or isnt it is but until that happens, the id piece will have to stay and live in the temp. Lets speak now to dr. Cut beer, i demo as a security analyst. Im the managing director of beacon consulting, which is a Security RiskManagement Solutions provider in nigeria. And in this a how welcome to dw and use africa. Thanks for joining us from a butcher. Now looking at the Security Cooperation between new jeremiah and picking this also, is this about the war against terrorism, or is this predominantly against echo us, which opposed that respective military cause . Thank you to me. Yeah, its a combination of both and additional security challenges that the 3 countries are facing. The immediate challenge, especially for new jersey, the trip of a military action to arrest all civil rule. Thats it. Where the rug democracy in the country you want to call it. Ive seen some july 26th when june talked to global power that it was, has been consistent that it would not preclude to the possibility of a meeting treat auction. And since then, a new job attempted to reach out to neighboring countries, including like, you know, 5. 00 to 1. 00 money to come to its a does it when we think even in practical tends deployment of military assets from money. And but, you know, if i sent you a new job, so that is perfect for me. Coordination of that discussion of the conversation between the 3 neighboring countries on the other side, they all the board individually and collectively face trip from the non state. Im groups, some of them, i do a logical, i know a lot of just the criminal, a groups that a part of the people didnt just the hill regional and so indicate of money as an example of the tract from this group. So lets do 2 military interventions, and so when to speak against this trip, it is an existing child tell each to the government thats where and then of course, to, to the concrete things, a combination of just fucked us on several of the factors that up for us to put an issue, but the red between the another fractured relationship, is that with new jazz relationship with friends which has confirmed who would withdraw its troops after such a long time. And also following pressure from the jack. If we look back at friends as a military mission, can this be described as a failure overall because of that for around a decade and the the is let me just write to still the so um yeah, it depends on what how you look at it. Um, i wouldnt describe it to complete feel when friends came in. Its been particular a money. Its primary objective then whats to prevent become political well, my end territory by this non state im groups and i think it was largely successful in preventing these brit both of the then the trip element and to even re call the low territory and support the, the really the money and government in reinstate you need to know targeting induced um you know lot of types of money that were taken over by it is not the time im however, i think the challenge for front has been how to translate those kind of folks at the, to the ordinary, an average, you know, a resident of a countries into sale. And i think its because of the we, the intervention is print from then if, if a foreign button in no way should friends take up the responsibility for providing what it National Government should provide. In most countries, the primary responsibility of government did the provision of security. So when that responsibilities shift a 3 or 4 button, i think its, its just clear that its not what the following button that can do and perhaps that its an infinity. Oh, in the conception of french post colonial diplomacy and of course, the result tend effective just an even wants to do that to get or directed at a upfront around. So it feels in some instances. But then i think overall i wouldnt describe it as it to delta you. So what does this all leave news . Yeah, because it still has to fight to maintain security and to come back to be is what missed insurgency . So that, thats, i think, the greatest worry at the moment, then im quite worried that the International Community starting from a cause you know, to a, you know, because even to you and then of course, in order for them to pop up, not really picking an offer on that, and i think id really decided region remains at the forefront of a current. Im think you really challenges affecting the wall. I mean, we dont move carefully. We quit the area, not meant of the ive got its done scenario in this a hell. There are a couple of countries at the moment that the tory t o, the state, if sushi that a n at any moment in time is not deep and groups could take control of a significant portion of the territory and go ahead to declare some follow from territorial control to do by doing them, you know, locations. So it is worth some indicate of the job. And the folks at the moment is to activate the front. And i think the largely succeed in doing that, well, we havent seen or hot is what strategies degree to put in place to replace the vacuum that would be created by the exit on the front. Its easy to see, for instance, that the, the us will feel that vacuum while we havent at that type of narrative or language coming out of the us. Us, its very specific. It has to ministry, you know, financial sites in, in new jersey and just not too long ago we ducked 20 most one to my to read the order to read it, which is not very likely that would be from ground operations to the type that was done by front of it, by the u, as in new jobs to invite you wouldnt be created and at the moment the only better, fucked off of i q is not that im groups. Weve seen a new job reviewed by division in the g 5. That if thats good at the moment, mollys no longer active in that. But induct um in order for us into more International Joint talks wasnt charged new jonathan, so reduce its participation in all of these instances, only been a factor ive been its not the im groups. Yeah, i do like to call on sunday or said right out of that out pretty to me in the region the that continues again. The possibility of a react not been to one. Ive got its done like the new its extremely high. Okay. Dr. Copier unable. Thank you very much for speaking to us to african activists have been named among the windows of the procedures right livelihood award, which is also known as the old tentative nobel prize. Eunice brooklyn. I mean, not from gone. I won the prize for her work as a human rights defend the other african prize winters, the canyon grassroots environmental activist. Phyllis on the do, you know hometown mombasa, shes known for organizing a protest. The lead to the closing of a local leg. Smelting plant or factory was located in the middle of a densely populated low income area where it was causing widespread lead poisoning, killing hundreds of residents, and humming numerous others. Many of the ones who died or fell sick with children, phyllis, oh, me to joins us now on the program from tennessee in kenya. Thanks a lot of time. Say lose, and congratulations on being the recipients of this years. Right . Livelihood awards and how does it feel to be recognized in this way . So thank you so much for taking the time. So to me, its the, the, the nature of the specific time is very timely because uh, in kentwood the time where the facing and the bracelets from government, because of the doing and so base we go no way in encouraging all communities that we have. Friendship since about the people who are working on the verizon, you can watch the rest of the causes. Could you turn it in and just try me because its, its been a long journey for you fighting this battle for Environmental Justice. Why does this mean so much to you for this . You know, pricing for Environmental Justice for me is about the lives of the life of the communities that hill their right to nice. They are right to life because this is what the original game and Just Environment news fall communities. And therefore we go, i select these trust me in touch as us for me personally, ive been affected because my son was exposed in that position on the inside because of that. And they are for my struggle, assume something that i have experienced from what i see the when, when you are right to, to new jersey is found into what can happen to your health and your life in this case, that spots of your what is facing setbacks though the people of the oh, we know who Real Community for whom you lobbied, where do you compensation . But that has been over 10 by the court of appeal. So its a struggle any different when you are up against this kind of grand institution. Uh yes it is. Uh, in the previous government we had a technician that was quite independent and wise um, quite up to just you can show you some kind of and the out to me really thats what i bought for to the, into the junior properties. One big juice and then the, uh, courts in uh, pushing 70 percent do the steps which is a lot of money because it goes around different beneficial, 013 big i think the shooting switches or else i can meet you and use join us. And they are for, this is based on what was to come from governments. They sort of appeal to the notes over time. I see the question 50 percent, let me do this debt. But they ask us to go to the environment for us to discuss the issue. Again, how much the community should be more consistent if it should be more than welcome to believe it or less the 3 because we have since i feel just to disapprove, what is bullshit like this was a little adjust dudley. It was defeating the purpose of the law because it keeps basic i use search to for the victims to another city. The range been through and also this was not a bus will allow me to do so. And there for you, there is no, theres no need for us to go back to the environment in the internet as the people say. So we go up into disappearing books and hopefully thats all we get to do today. So it does seem like, like a lot of work to put all of this together to, to go fighting, right, to the end. What advice would you give to someone watching this . Who wants to fight for a social cause, but is worried about the giants task of taking on largest stablish events like corporates and government and dealing with these kinds of things youre, youre describing as its normally about winning victories or is not wondering about um, getting a remedies for communities, but its also this morning games that you gave me that you get, i know the wage because once you start to find that, and then what do you have done . A lot has changed since we started these trend wouldnt be go down into nearby and then keep us then. Yeah, that would be blogs. And we dont really the department of our initial to can be corporate entities by seals of chairs and the fact that all emotional Environmental Management will try to get the big window about him by the court of appeals. This was just the most sensitive to issues when the rest of the day not being on be held liable for. So she, of course, its not going to be about winning the beaches. Its also the change that you create by bringing these cases to court, and by doing that for a few of these cases, remember, you know, in case we did, the policy also can problem and insurance and it, and what the produced reports being the competitive interest, your search and carry all studies on these kinds of studies, how contributed. Im not doing what i see in the country at all, even in the health cigna. And therefore its not going to be usually shy away and things you might lose weight and below, right . Its a big but were taking a big change of government. Its really very frustrating. But the codes and the blessings that you get along the way. Phyllis, only the recipient of the 2023 ride livelihood award. Many congratulations again and all the best to you. Thank you so much i its independence week in nigeria as the country months. 63 years of Self Governance after colonial rule. President bullet to know who has called for no key celebrations instead of the usual festivities. But as dw, as long as you are buying your reports, many nigerians think theres not much to celebrate anyway. The past few months have been tough for many nigerians. 12 prices have more than tripled this made when the new president , well, i think it will cost grow subsidies that have had a knock on effect. Everything has become much more expensive. Many people are still really struggling to get by that theyre not even thinking about celebrating independence. Because celebrating countries, i know that youre going to have those on things where you want to look back on and see where you can be proud of it by then were going to tell them that are going to celebrate the fact that my life level happy this year has been really bad for a lot of 15 business wise businesses, lovegrove and nothing is moving. Nope. Everything is just green down economies crushing the country. So uh see, i mean it was a what is that it was being paid for the 5000. 00. Hes like, well enough for me because of my to didnt know my wife the when i do that youre going to that we dont know. We dont know. We have we, i agree. We dont know what to do the nazis at. I x of all what that is going on in nigeria where you to what is happening in in nigeria and i will see that everything is going back was for microsoft friends. Nothing is going on in this country. So i dont see. And it is interesting to bridge a 1969 terrorist flag was re yes, mocking independence from britain. 63 as nice as a country. Feel sure, going to stand on the speak. Faced with whats the name place on it . We currently use the currency on unemployment menu only people are leaving in large numbers, but not everyone is able to relocate. So those who are less appealing on change. I dont believe in living and do that because i can go so we uh, become a 2nd class citizen. So does i see be leaving and you know, walk out on each. I never know most of the country, but its our fault. So diligently in the nation were steve, well, i dont feel like i could make it for myself because i dont know about well that people buy new and not people wants to make it. So i just feel like for my own sales, i mean just right, my brain is just for us to do to see that the very some of those shows my 0 votes. When did you show the lizzie . She woke up as guys, for me, i will, to one of us cancers our world is united, federal government, the dentist, availability, zip was, you know, lets just hope you know, like the said, the president just inside the seats and hes trying his best to make everything speed me so lets keep watching. Obviously just inside this is so thats whats on c home. This to goes. We see a independence has to be tied, renewed hope for unity and prosperity. Whereas that many 9 jury and would like to see translate that into reality to, to uganda now, where a woman has been reunited with a new born baby after 4 months of pots, the 2 was separated because a hospital detained the mother for failing to pay a medical bills after the babys best, the practice of hospital detentions is not unusual in uganda, but as dw judy has more, gambler reports, Rights Campaign is hope. This womans case will lead to some legisl