The old tentative nobel prize. She speaks to deed of menus, africa and then uganda and mother and baby were united up to full months of hans. We find out why come pay those want the conclusion of this case to spock, the legislative change . The no, im totally. Alrighty. Well, welcome to the program. For the 3rd time in 2 years, fronds is being forced to withdraw its troops from a west african country, 1st from molly, then booking f i. So, and now these, yeah, these 3 countries based just had hist, insurgencies, which the french was that to help suppress. But all 3 have since had military takeovers which the former colonial power has opposed. The 3 west african countries have since announced a new security packed to tackle, but you had his attacks. Thousands of people continued to flee the violence though, as dw fond from a village in these yeah, near the border with money and onset, and you live the ibp kemp, insect quota up to that as x who my not flat, his own village after seeing its limits. Terrace to his neighbors, jimenez to escape with his family at the last minute of equipment. You dont quite know how we have suffered sewing much because of the terrorists. We were forced to leave the village. The terrace wound us that we didnt believe them at 1st. Then one day they came and burned all about grain storage. Took away our live stock and destroyed all of our positions. And that was the day we fled to the till a busy region. Good. Now are you having lost the animals and was no line to call to wait the message, you sign a dire situation here. The local government has given them a place to put the makes if puts, but nothing more. Women try to earn some money. Weavings, trauma. Its that by now, it was all we go to the weekly local markets and try and sell on that stuff so that we can buy at least some necessities to feed the family. Is that correct community as taking in more than 3000 refugees . At 1st the locust welcome then, but then conflicts over land and water stopped. And thats why the may is spinning a hope on the new military government. She expects the hood to get the security crisis on the control so that the id piece can finally return into just a hub in the last few days has been really good on. The army has moved into secure the area is inside the id piece themselves. One to go back to their villages, but what they really need 1st is psychological support. Many id piece i traumatized, but the daily struggle for survival overrides everything. Water is the biggest problem ever drop has to be paid for the low coup pump to open come evening, there is no water left. But today im so i have to, i hope its lucky, he minutes to fill this kind of stuff for a price. He can afford label to the demand for water is huge, and people come here all day long. They are the displaced people who come to get water from the palm. We sometimes sell up to them at a lower price lower than for the locals, because we know that they dont have enough money. Thats one w one is cindy i. So as, as he is a camp editor, he tries to spread confidence in the community and to comp time plus, if conflicts with the locus overboard, arise for him. Hope has no returned. Regarding our news since the day with the military had taken power. Weve had high hopes that will be able to return to our respective villages, because weve already heard that the mood she had during the fast and all the cavities to drive. So terrorist out by what are ready to go. So this up to me isnt in the town hall to the new the announce Defense Alliance between molly book, you know, foss a night is inspiring, more confidence than the old cooperation with fonts that will open up. We have no other partners than this airlines. We welcome to very, very favorably, not home. We hope it supports the authorities. Above all, we welcome this partnership because it good health group are around to get that or isnt but until that happens, the id piece will have to stay and live in the temp. Lets speak now to dr. Cut beer, i demo as a security analyst. Im the managing director of beacon consulting, which is a Security RiskManagement Solutions provider in nigeria. And in this a how welcome to dw and use africa. Thanks for joining us from a butcher. Now, looking at the Security Cooperation between media and malia and became the fast. So this is this about the war against terrorism, or is this predominantly against echo us, which opposed that respective military coups. To thank you to me and its a combination of both and additional security telling you that the 3 countries are facing the immediate challenge, especially for new jersey, the trip of a military action to arrest all civil rule. Thats it where the rug democracy in the country you want to call that seen some july 26th when june talked to global power that it was has been consistent that it would not preclude the possibility of a meeting treat auction. And since then, a new job attempted to reach out to neighboring countries, including like, you know, 5. 00 to 1. 00 money to come to its a does it when we think even in practical tends deployment of military assets from money and book, you know, 1st of to deduct so this is perfect for me. Coordination of that difficult you on a conversation between the 3 neighboring countries on the other side, they off the boat individually and collectively face trip from a non state group. Some of them i do a logical i know, or the just criminal a group start a pipe. Basically we didnt just the hill regional and so indicate of money as an example of the tract from this group. So lets do 2 military interventions. And so when to speak against this trip, it is an existing child tell each to the government thats a way. And then of course, to, to the concrete things a combination of dis, fucked us on several of the factors that up for us to put an issue. But the grid between the and now the fractured relationship, is that with new jazz relationship with friends which has confirmed who would withdraw its troops after such a long time. And also following pressure from these. Yet if we look back at friends as a military mission can best be described as a failure overall because of that for around a decade and the the is lowest threats of still the so um yeah, it depends on what, how you look at it. Um, i wouldnt describe it does a complete feel when front came in. Its been particular a money. Its primary objective then whats to prevent become political well milan territory by this non state im groups and i think it was largely successful in preventing these print off of the den trip element and to even re call the low territory and support that the really, the money and government in reinstate, you need to know targeting induced um you know, lot of types of money that way i taken over by it is not the time im good. However, i think the challenge for front has been how to translate this kind of folks at the, to the ordinary, an average. Um, you know, a resident of a countrys into sale. And i think its because of the we, the intervention is freight from theyve been if, if a foreign button in no way should friends take up the responsibility for providing what it National Government should provide. In most countries, the primary responsibility of government did the provision of security. So when that responsibility of shift a 3 or 4 button, i think its, its just clear that its not what a foreign button that can do. And perhaps that its an infinity or in the conception of french post colonial diplomacy. And of course, the result and effective just an even wants to do that. Its a get or directed at a upfront around. So it feels in some instances. But then i think overall i wouldnt describe it to it, to delta you. So what does this all leave news . Yeah. Because it still has to fight to maintain security and to come back to be is what mist insurgency . So that, thats, i think, the greatest worry at the moment, then im quite worried that the international community, starting from a cause you know, to a, you know, because even to un and then of course them, or super about, im not really picking them over on that and i think i really just, i had a region remains at the forefront of a current. Im think you read each of inches affecting the wall. I mean, we dont move cassidy. We could the area not meant of the ive gotten this done scenario in just a help there. A couple of countries at the moment that the tory t or the state, if the shaky, that a and at any moment in time is not deep and groups could take control of a significant portion of the territory and go ahead to declare some form of territorial control to do by doing them, you know, locations. So it is worth some indicate of the job. And the folks at the moment is to accurate from and i think the largely succeed in doing that. Well, we havent seen or heard. Its what strategies do you agree to put in place to replace the vacuum that would be created by the exit on the front. Its easy to see, for instance, that the, the us will feel that vacuum while we havent had that type of narrative or language coming out of the us. Us, its very specific. It has to ministry, you know, formation sites in, in new jersey. And just not too long ago, wed actually moved one to match with the order. So either way, its not very likely that would be from ground operations to the type that was done by front and the by the u, as in, in new jobs, the bike you wouldnt be created. And at the moment, the only been a fucked up of i q is not that im groups. Weve seen a new job reduce that by to be shown in the g 5 dot. If thats good at the moment, mollys no longer active in that. Um, but in, in the, in the 4th, in the Multinational Joint tax was in charge new jonathans to reduce its participation in all of these instances, theyve only been in fact to, ive been, its not the im groups. Yeah, i do like to call the ones on the ive run out of that to operate in, in the region. Say that continues again. The possibility of a react not been to one of can you spell the likes the new . Its extremely high. Okay. Dr. Cover unable thank you very much for speaking to us. To african activists have been named among the windows of the prestigious right livelihood awards, which is also known as the old tentative nobel prize. Eunice brooklyn, i me saw from gun one the prize will work as a human rights defend. The other african prize winner is the canyon grass roots environmental activist phyllis on needle. You know, hometown mombasa, shes known for organizing a protest. The lead to the closing of a local lab smelting plant or factory was located in the middle of a densely populated low income area where it was causing widespread lead poisoning, killing hundreds of residents and homie numerous others, many of the ones who died or fell sick with children, phyllis o mido joins us now on the program from tennessee in can you . Thanks a lot of time, phyllis and congratulations on being the recipients of this years. Right. Livelihood awards and how does it feel to be recognized in this way . So thank you so much for taking the time. So to me, its the, the, the nature of the specific time is very timely because uh, it came to the time where the fishing and the bracelets from government, because of the doing answer base. Weve got no way in encouraging the communities that we have friendships and, but the people who are watching or rather than you can watch the rather the causes could you turn it in and just try me because its, its been a long journey for you fighting this battle for Environmental Justice. Why does this mean so much to you for this . You know, pricing for Environmental Justice for me, the lives of the life of me please the hill. Their right to nice. They are right today because this is what the original game and Just Environment news fall communities. And therefore we go, i submit these trust me in touch as asked for me possibly being affected because my son was exposed to net one producer and the slightest. Because of that avail, for my struggle, assume something that i have experienced from what i see the when, when you are right to getting interest is finally to what can happen to the health and your life. In this case, that spots of your what is facing setbacks though the people of the oh, we know who Real Community for whom you lobbied, where do you compensation . But that has been over 10 by the court of appeal. So its a struggle any different when you are up against this kind of grand institution. So yes, this is the previous government. We had a technician that was quite independent and the wives im quite up to just to, to show you some kind of the out to me really thats what bought for to the, into the junior properties. One victories and then the uh, courts in uh, pushing 70 percent left for you to do the steps which is a lot of money because it goes around different conditions. Uh, one thing being i think assuming switches are all 13000000 years join us and they are 4 biggest this one has to come from governments. They sort of appeal to the notes on terms of seeing the course on 50 percent of the districts. But they asked us to go to the environment for us to discuss the issue. Again, how much the community should be more consistent if it should be more than welcome to do that or less than 3 . Because we have students feelings to disapprove. What is going to ship like this was a little bit just document. It was defeating the purpose of the law because it keeps basic i use search to for today and victims to another, assuming the range been through. And also this was not possible allow me to do so, and therefore we do, theres no, theres no need for us to go back to the environment in the internet as the people say. So we go up into disappearing books and we, im hoping that we get to do today. So it does seem like like a lot of work to put all this together to, to go fighting right, to the end. What advice would you give to someone watching this . Who wants to fight for a social cause, but is worried about the giant task of taking on a large establishment like corporates and government and dealing with these kinds of things youre, youre describing as the boats willing to chase or is not wondering about um, getting uh remedies for communities, but its also this morning games that we can do that you get, i know the wage because once you start to try that and then what do you have done to arrange a lot has changed since we started in these trend wouldnt be good government, nearby and keepers and yeah, that would be gloves in the department of our initial 2nd be corporate industries. But sales hours, chairs and the fact that all emotional Environmental Management will try to get the big window about held by the court of appeals. This was just the most sensitive to issues when the rest of the level of so to see of course, its not only about winning the beaches. Its also the change that you create by bringing these cases to port. And by doing that for a few of these cases, remember in case we did the sequel so they can have a problem and insurance in it. And what of them um, produced reports being that the bill to be discharged to gary, all that is on these kinds of studies has contributed a lot to, to what i see in our country at all, even in the health cigna. And therefore, its a big issue with shy away and things you may have to wait and below, right . Its a big but the j a government, its really very frustrating. But the codes and Little Blessings that you get along the way philip will meet the recipients of the 2023 ride livelihood award winning. Congratulations again and all the best to you. Thank you so much. I. This is independence week in nigeria as the country months. 63 years of Self Governance after colonial rule president bought to nubile, has called for no key celebrations instead of the usual festivities. But as the theyll be, as long as youre buying your reports, many nigerians think theres not much to celebrate anyway. The past few months have been tough for many united jury, and 12 prices have more than 2 reports these made. When the new president velocity will cost growth subsidies that has had a not 20. 00 fix, everything has become much more expensive. Many people are still really struggling to get by that theyre not even thinking about celebrating independence. Because celebrating countries, i know that youre going to have those and things where you can look back on and see where you can be proud of it by then were going to tell them that are going to celebrate the fact that my life, you know, if its a little happy. Lets see, it has been really bad for a lot of 15 business wise businesses, little groove and nothing is moving. No, everything is just green down economies crushing the country. So i see im, it was a what is that . It was being paid for the 5000 is like, well enough for me because of my to didnt know my wife the when i do that youre going to that we dont know we dont know. Busy we have, we agree, we dont know what to do, the math is at i x of all what that is going on in nigeria. What do you to what the supplemented nigeria, and i will see that everything is going by 4. For mazda is also a friend, nothing is going on in this country, so i dont see any reason to sort of bridge. A 1969 terrorist flag was right. Yes. Mocking independence from britain. 63 as nice as a country. Feel sure, going to stand on the face with whats the name place on it. We currently is security on unemployment menu or people that are leaving in large numbers, but not everyone is able to relocate. So those who are less appealing on change, i dont believe in moving into that because i can go some yeah, become a 2nd class citizen. So does what i see believing and you know, walk out on each. I never know most of the contributes our quotes are diligently, then the nation will see will i just feel like i could make it for myself because i dont know about what the people buy new and not people wants to make it. So i just really like for my own sales, i mean just straight my pre, i just realized a deal seriously that the base of a very showed my 0 votes we use should not be nice. Should work out as guys, you know, one of them i will, to, one of us cost is all is, you know, depends on the goldman, the zip was, you know, lets just hope you know, like the said, the president just inside the seat and the sign is best to make everything speed. So lets keep watching. How does it just been thought this is . So thats whats on c home this to goes v as independence has to be pad renewed hope for unity and prosperity. Words that many nigerians would like to see translated into reality to, to uganda now, where a woman has been reunited with a new born baby after 4 months of pots. The 2 was separated because a hospital detained, the mother for failing to pay a medical bills after the babys best. The practice of hospital detentions is not unusual in uganda, but as dw g gets more, gambler reports Rights Campaign is hope. This womans case will lead to some legislative action against the prac