Modem and everything was going well and thats be then the war began is sort of out. Everyone was forced out this is my father. What the other one, whats his name . Best way of what is your ability to invest quite as hands were tied. Yes. Whos that . My brother in law, how does that door bosh comes of the bush for them quite as you know is hands were also tied with plastic. See how that works . Can i encourage people . Would you like to leave the upload a sent a way the women in his family and some relatives he kind of uh, let me see that for you to necessarily city on september 23rd, 2019 at around 3 pm. Total 7 or 8 born or is entered the house. Let me just see if theres gonna be you. I mean what us, when we said they were probably russian, bruce or the, my brother Mohammed Mohammed are the norm and it gets plastic film definitely to know if its under enough. So just like the others listen, yes. One of them who were also tied up like that more, but you cant get free. So sort of any lame, im bored to the any but you know let how about i told him he should go fish and whom is that . Why did he stay . What kind as if he was too proud to go . He told me he was ready to die in his house and with the in april 2019 libyan war. Lower general. Hi lisa, have launched an assault on the un recognized government and previous capital. Tripoli, the, it soon became clear that half towards troops known as the Libyan National army. The l. N. A. Were not acting alone. The server that the Intelligence Agency reported on it cut the not that many of them. Youre an estimated 200 people. Me to answer for about them, but the fighting went on, are the number grew up or what the what are the from the start these forces made a difference on the battlefield. A clear difference was how is that how kennedy asked had they had weapons wed never seen before as to how they can then most of how would seriously see any precision guided ammunition can snipers and thousands of home was camacho understood. They hit with aimed at those tenny was that they could take out a moving car, no time, totally from ken. Hey, anyhow, for them. And they were highly trained militarily in the account of the deep asked me for unlike other stuff coming in the i mean on can we any a jimmy . Honestly, they all were the same close helmets in body or the the canada. We found out who they were when they went to the front them and im in front of you. They were mainly russians and war from countries of the former soviet union savvy. 4 months reporters from the bbcs, arabic and Russian Service is carried of research into russian mercenaries in libya. The theyre known collectively as the wagner groups. But who is dog now . And why was the group in libya and most importantly, who was pulling the strings . The then unlucky break. Okay, here we go. By them. How . Thats how the, the, the weve got, this is the tablet Government Troops has found us a lot on sort of the, about the call to hold them to the parking lot on it. Well, it belonged to one of the wagner men who were stationed in the islands are area within the cells of tripoli. I cant imagine why you didnt see multiple things are going on topless. And i tried that and there are a lot of houses on the most important is offline maps. Many locations are marks of on come up to the one on a and i the them in, in monica where the see, this is triple a. In the west of livia, all the names are in russian. Many locations are marked in different colors, not even in america. Or next to them, and when sound like a, like a minimum of probably below last most, most in read below and others are in blue and that got it done by the few smaller places in black. We even see yellow here, and those are the that, as you see, all the points are near ions are on the south of triple is all the way. If you go to the adamant again i is the were going to ions are the middle where this tablet was filed with the names that are kinda items are a head, a heavy russian presence according to the civilians and military personnel where they ask any of you that kind of want to come up to them and them, as you can see in the areas now em terminate is or if there was a mass exodus for hines, or at the time of opinions of its residents returned once the war in the day were away, for more than a year and on the southern center, its better to want to find me thats too high some way. I finally spend 9 weeks fighting wagner mercenaries in ons are they were only 10 kilometers from tripling. And i do some of these on the enemy was over there by the tower and the mosque. Skinner. And then they drove up and down in an Armored Vehicle with their wounded temperatures of how the how and again, most of the time this is where the russians had their observation post where theyre snipers were stationed. Lets have a look at the, you know, where was the sniper . Exactly at the moment this was this domain, the net. So we were at the end of the street saying has this investment. Uh huh. Okay. And at the time, as you get a clear shot in several directions to everything and view, then they can have a not a good idea of what do you think about the russians who are here . Most of mercenaries. Anyhow, they only care about money for the uh, the search um they kill somebody. Did you go from the commit crimes for money im coming in and let in and it is, its a criminal organization. One of them was it on me. So really about about, off has been researching the wagner group for the bbc for years pioneer the so these, so these are the locations that were saved by the bag and a soldier on the tablets as they were fighting. So they would have the tablets on them and all these locations were saved as landmarks. So do you have a significance to a soldier in regards to the fights and they were doing and names are. So, and if i start from the top here, and this is the closest point to chip release, so this would be your nines, our phone line. Im going to zoom in a bit more. It is, this is the, this could be a list of targets. For example, they write to thermal targets, or nighttime arrival. Diesel reach beloved said it may be that meant a shell landed there at night, so i dont know who to do with this. So if you feed zoom in here earlier, is this mohammeds asian . It probably means some kind of local commander was working with them because lower down is the word study. So the kids, so due to the arabic means, friend. So they can use of they called the troops, they cooperated with and syria substitute troops seated. Thats apparently what they call, general hop tars forces, and lydia was come up and she learned very simple because she was in southern good and so called sound like code names. They probably had a check point at the junction of each other as a consultant and judging from the code names, the read positions are those of the mercenaries. So any of these things from the code names that we have for some of the soldiers . Will we be able to identify them . Yes, of course. Hes cute. We have list says wagner personnel with names and code names and events. And you see that to me just because theres no thats theres no way we could use this map to start digging limits. And thats still the complex thing to do. The typical buttons that are, unless someone is at the wagner group, is one of the most secretive organizations in russia. I could send that because it doesnt even officially exist at some point. It could you please, but more than 5000 people are found to be part of this organization, named after the great german composer. When you get to the complex you and i dont mean to bug that a condom mercenaries dont give interviews. Some kind of money that youd do to former members agreed to talk to us if we kept their names and identity secret. But it was for the semester, but im not uniqueness. Defining the using again, these are their exact words spoken by actors sort of what i need to get of running his cousin level as well. Some of us to start with something simple as you can company. How would you explain who the wagner group is and what it does to someone whos never heard of it . And if it does that, it can use that. So if youre to my husband, you might, its not just a little i still knew id probably start by telling them what i was told when i joined the episode of board, which at this the door to control it. But it knows its an organization that supports russian interest to yonder countries borders. So to get to that, but it does much not live upon union a. So because of the church, you know, it takes on special tasks. That means military Operations East doesnt what kinds of people join them . What is led to me . There are 3 category. You have 3. Could you go to the little g firstly, men who cant imagine any other life for themselves at the what the core and mercenaries. So that to that list job is the only way they want to live and earn a living. We slip that so you raise know they love shit. Sports is that about the when youre junior vote of what they prefer, you see that i get you go to italy, you get 3 categories. 2 people with a sense of hopelessness. Need you more would make you was more than to see just to increase that they cant see any other way to support themselves. And usually who did we come because there is no other option. Go to a general mind to keep. And the 3rd category romantic, usable readers in search of an adrenalin hit, you know, also want to serve their country issues and was more of a list 1st movie to cheese. A lot, no units fund alongside pro russian separatists in Eastern Ukraine in 2014, in 2015. They showed up in syria and then the Central African republic ensued on and in 2018 libya. Over the side, we started getting reports of russians fighting for the so called wagner group on half to our side in the fall of 2019 a half that i cannot see heidi how the scene with this of us, the media, its in front of us. I dont know exactly how many were in libya. Still peace, 500, but the 150. 1500. The numbers very not what they were there in 2019. Thats a fact. We saw mercenaries come in on both sides of the conflict. You also had a number of the syrians, thousands of syrians who were brought in uh on the part of the, on behalf of the jan a through through turkey. We were concerned about this, you know, insertion of mercenaries and weaponry that was perpetuating, intensifying the conflict and leading 1st and foremost to be a mr. Ration of the living people. This need needed to stop because we knew there was not, there was going to be a military solution to this conflict of from, of, as far as i understand it. Cool. The russian governments position was the following. Legal, you have left them joint and well wait. It out. What early in the front of your mother . Yes, i cannot be here in kenneth nothings usually if it works out well, we can use it to our advantage. If it turns out badly, then we had nothing to do with it much that are highly so last time we spoke we um, we shared with you uh, some of the exams are found by the tablets, other locations or the tablets. Um. Can you tell us why you manage to find the yes, we ran all the names and code names of wagner fighters thought to have been in libya through a database. The database was compiled by ukrainian volunteers during the fighting and Eastern Ukraine in 201420155 University Unit b, that we were able to identify 2 or 3 of the fighters on the trip of lima by it. So i thought of the proposal was not the kinds of people you would have somebody that could, are you able to share with me one of the identities on in the chat . So can have a look which is which we now know that this has to meet 3, but on se was born in 1993 is code name. So lang that makes sense. Any, its the name of a river embody. Gotcha. And the Russian Far East of them is weird. See, hes from buddy up to you and that explains his code name. Do you want me to assist you with his personnel . Number it shows hes one of the 1st people to join wagner. And he explained to me that it was with numbers up to 3000, are those who went to fight 6 years ago and ukraines united issue. They went through syria and theyre now in africa. Im to see you the earliest the thank you. Looking at his birth date is about 28 years old. So that means he started fights and we were back in there at the start of his twentys. Yes, judging from his age, he probably completed his national service, then ukraine conflict started. Thats how he got involved. Youd be doing sort of the pacific on which was due to what the type of sent you another link in the chat. But pretty soon the, this is the data and me, its kim at telephone as a door, andre of it, i hope i pronounced that correctly. Well, its more of how the code name meddler made me to the meta, exactly a short version of his surname. And just to kind of show now if you will find me what information every minutes together about this guy. Hes significantly older than photo and stuff over 35. Judging from his personal number, he also joins wagner, 5 or 6 years ago during the fighting and the eastern new crane by you being the best i can, can i you me and yeah. So seeing this interesting picture of this guy was a big tattoo units on a chest. And the idea of what is taught to means is yes, i see its a son well, hes probably some kind of nazi nazi ideology is a common thing amongst background soldiers. Yes, there are some. So do you have um is them a phobic believes to be i dont think they care if they fight in muslim countries or anywhere else. They started out fighting and orthodox ukraine and that didnt seem to matter. I dont think religion is the main thing here in a business, and youre good to go to, to be an option. What was it that attracted you to the organization didnt give money . What do you mean . You know, to belong to them by 2 cuts to the bottom. I had already been a volunteer fighter and done boss in ukraine able to go they need to, but i dont want to keep away in the i no longer believe in the romance of war as to the quick lane, not i knew the reality. So get onto the website. Yeah. And i just needed the money to genuity. So thats good we, when did the talk about going to libya started . Did you believe it was going to show we started talking about it early on whenever theres some kind of armed conflict. Wagner, soldiers talk about it, talk with you much and go, you could go to this one. That could be one for us. I would look to the political one the door. But most of cars are starting to get a, its a contract at the getting every contract and every country means money is and you have to come without a contract. No money. So changes or what the pricing to be premium. How many wagner people were deployed in libya . And you believe me . Yes, my brother, i know about 2 units and they were replaced by another to me. I knew about them. So if you have some tubs of on the school, how many men . Genuine was, i dont know exactly around a 1000 i can get the some with the friends and dental teaching. I. So thats what a, i some, i have a tablet that we got from one of the wagner locations on my uh, equipment on a month for buying them. Their forces are in red, yours are in blue. Uh let me see how the i was stationed here. The for concerning the wrong, and when you were stationed there, yes, 50 the enemy knew precisely where you were or how does that deal with them . Are there any show . Its a strange feeling to think that they tracked all our movements. Obviously already been well enough for them to come to me to the final, but that was the wagner position. Wed located whether this is one of our positions and thats foreigners, the other, the guns, the kennel, the 4th fund, or the federal trench, or anything in advance. Or how are they able to locate you so precisely, and go to the doctor and they monitored us with small drones the as a bit of a problem in front of me identify some of the wagner menu were fighting. Would you like to know who they were . Their name is on the pictures on my smart home, our so on the ticket so that the, this is one of the point saved on the tablet thats its named after one of them in this called metal. Or i just wanna make sure i had it since that was our position, and then an estimate of cameron or his full name is say to or and a tell can i was born in 1984 which makes sent on 37. And i think the center as a sort of thats his picture. This is one of the guys who were fighting off in se hoodie, it feels weird. A lot of our studies much older than you send them before are these are lives in the amount of supposed to sure our guys are 21 years old. So thats a huge difference. That it can be a victim. I any effects of where the and boost it says that it means that they were fighting well trained russians all older than 30 and then and no can as close to the man and i for one who mount. Imagine what the battles would have been like if our people had been the same age and was add, you keep canyon. And i said, hey, cool the this does, it shouldnt, dont get with you, maam. You have to study. I served for a long time in the organizations in syria for going to us these get them when you, when the Libya Campaign star table. I didnt want to take the car to learn. You does a not in syria, so many people and definitely not in libya vulnerability. The least you know, just well, i took part in the storming of palmera virginia and youve to meet the liberal ration of the oil Fields School because how many of them died. And im always glad you asked me too many. We knew no problem of the sort. We know that one of their primary rebates was to protect the pulmonary helped mirror area. That area is really the parts of oil and Gas Production in, in syria. We saw spreadsheets with, you know, millions and millions of roubles being transferred in exchange for providing infrastructure, security and perimeter, security and securing the oil and gas facilities. And the wagner group would get a portion of the take from, from the production. Basically, the draft of the contract became public in early 2018. The 2 partners were allegedly, the Syrian Government and a Russian Company, andro ponies. The Russian Company not only appear to profit from the gas and oil production, but was also apparently connected to the wagner group in libya. Whats been at stake there are, you know, both oil um delivery from the ports as well as Gas Production facilities in that sort of been gauzy area. And then, you know, going, you know, south and east word were haft are, is, is prevalent. Wagner mercenaries are sought to have taken up positions and key libyan oil fields. After the assault on tripoli, a contorted what it means is that 3 statues honor the wagner. You brooks comfortably play music. One shows a soldier. Protecting a child is the if the artist had been honest and the soldier would b