The d h and philosophers, seneca said the day of our death is the birth of the trinity. Once you die, you joined the realm of the mortal the. What if we told you you dont have to die . What if you could live forever . The weve been trying to fight death since the beginning of her existence. Evolution is slow and the world has changed. Evolution is not just something that happens to us anymore. Evolution gave rise to a species but now got something to its the so technologies are new phase of evolution. And if we do not adapt to it with the double the as long as possible, maybe of thousands of rooms for the 1st time, the scientific, technological possibilities to do the we spend so much of our lives in the digital realm. Now some believe a i will not only extend human life, but it can make us immortal. The issue is say, oh my god, our family memories are in these photo albums, especially now since my mothers passed away. And my father is in a retirement home thats pedagogy and thats me. Oh, so this is, this is head of a g when he was younger and it was studying in denmark areas. I really went to then we had a masters degree. Yeah thats, thats him to was a teacher. He was so many things. A scientist, businessmen, baby carrier, the bad, can you see us . Oh, thats great. And you were at home, you know, you, after and zara the type of data you i think so. Where is, how does the code see if so the house in vancouver and you sold it . Do you remember . Do you remember when you and mom got married . The my fathers 78 years old now and has dementia. Sure. The what if theres a way to avoid the inevitable . What if there was a way to keep some part of him alive forever . I went to talk with Lincoln Cannon to tackle the same questions when his father passed away after a long battle with cancer. Once were at an age where we realize that data is coming at us, we have to manage it somehow. Is part of the trans humanness movement which believes in the ethical use of technology to transcend human limits even transcend death. Fortunately, we are working very hard to make death optional. What did you mean when you said youd like death to be optional . Yes, so death. I would love death to be optional because well, optional is a key word because some people get into situations where there are things that are worse than death. My father died of cancer and at a certain point that was the right thing to do because living with in such suffering just wasnt worth it. But if we have ways of healing the cancer as well, then lets hear him. And then i bet he wouldnt want to die. The, this is the church of perpetual life. Every month they invite speakers from around the world to discuss that friends human is police and discoveries. Todays visiting speaker is a trans human is philosopher and pastor next speaker. Well this is my 1st time at the church of perpetual life, so im strongly thrilled just to be here. It is kind of turn out is extraordinary for, for any belief for any faith. So i mean this all you of ourselves a round of applause, a pat on the back for making it out here. We are ready to go out and make you turn to the rate again. But not when i 1st started and they started calling me pastor g. I am now known as swami g. As my affectionate nickname, gabriel is a pastor with terrorism, a trans humanist religion that believes we can use technology to achieve immortality. A fundamental to every religion is the mortality of the soul, which in terrorism is our consciousness. The philosophy that science will conquer death is a basic terrace, and believe the mortality bearing versus terror. Sam is publicizing that immortality as possible, because the soul is data and not material. We believe that the information that is, the soul is cap triple. And it is transferable, capturing your ideas, capturing your thoughts or memories of vision that data set is what we call a mind the 5 mind file. You lost me up, soul is data. But let me just try to break down the idea of mine files. I imagine you could capture the essence of who you are, the all your thoughts you try and the your feelings that moment you 1st fell in love, the deepest loss, the lease of the day, the 1st status on the basically thats what mind files are terraced and believes these memories and experiences are the key to our immortality. If the captured in transferred, thats the trans human. Its belief that we can transfer consciousness to artificial bodies and conquered death. Okay, this is pure sy fi fantasy right . But hold on. So much of our lives is now online. Its not surprising that Mindful Technology is already being developed as we speak. If you dont believe me, check out this Consumer Electronics show in vegas. The artificial its a little bit different for me. I was computationally created based on how real humanist looks and the mind files could be upload to avatars like these. They can extend your life, but they are a kind of immortality. An artificial immortality is to help you become even worse. If you could upload yourself into one of these, would you hello digital detox. Yup. This is deepak chopra, listening to them cell phone. Good morning america. Thats how wide spread this technology is becoming. You know, d pack, the human up the digital copy. As a spiritual grew the core well beings of field of incidence possibilities a doctor who turned to alternative medicine and wrote dozens of books that have sold millions of copies. Hello, im a digital version of dr. Deepak chopra. Cree wanted to see if he could create an a i clone of himself. Im in training to serve as your incident wellbeing guide digits, and the buck is like a babys at the moment and like any baby needs education and expanded knowledge. So im training it right now. Please enter your email. It is reading all of my 90 close, so books. It can replicate my efficient expressions and my eye movements and the tone of my voice. What made you want to create an a i pharmacy or so . Im hoping that you have to one day talk to the grandkids of my grandkids, and then from then about that time. So it will be a simulation of me and that i hope will be in march. As soon i can go with you every way you go, id be inside your phone ready at any time to serve you. If a simulation of him is immortal, does he achieve true immortality . Vice over see how close is that digital d pock to the real human and wow, hes tracking me is this is heather shamira from a i foundation the Company Behind digital detox. How is digital theyve had different from say, siri, visual. The park is actually entirely different from alexa from siri, from any kind of, you know, kind of voice in the box situation. Youre personally understanding his guidance is wisdom. You can ask him questions. You have a relationship with digital d pop. You dont have a relationship with alexis, serious, etc. Hey, hey, fuck it. Hey, im here with my friend and do you want to introduce yourself to . Yes, i sure can. Awesome. Heather says digital deepak isnt just spouting prerecorded sentences. It analyzes data responds to facial expressions and tone of voice. Ive done hundreds of interviews, but nothing like this and advertise, i can think on its feet. I didnt expect that. What do you think about people seeking immortality . On earth . There is no need to wait for death or having to prove that if you turn to t is really very interesting about it. He is deep. Thank you. So the park, well talk tomorrow. All right. Okay. All right, bye. I. I didnt expect to like start to think like, oh i should say fine. Wheres it going to go . But yeah, thats a weird thought. Yeah. Heres the computer. Yeah. Yeah. But what im gonna do is youre gonna need 2 more for, and i get like, you know, its weird that i was thought for. Sure. Yeah. Well, youre actually the human thats what surprised me most. I didnt expect to connect with this digital a i clone or makes me think about my conversations with my dad. Hi. I wonder what if we had captured his memories in a personal way, i clone before his own memory started going. Okay, what would it be like to have an ai version of ourselves, a way for us to be part of family life, even after we die, which is this enables i think its extremely unlikely that you can suddenly press a button and your consciousness will be transferred however, i believe that you can have Something Like consciousness to find it digital format, even after you die. The thing around them on academic content, but nor i bill to start, ive called swipe it, puts a random a has been building a platform that will enable us to live on forever and what he calls an augmented eternity. So augmented the trinity is about creating a digital version very similar to yourself, and its going to represent your wisdom in a different way in which the next generation can benefit from it. Anyone can create their personal and i think this is what i want to give access to my children. But this is my professional filing a i a, in a not. So was the pursuit of humans to say ok, now i want to mimic the brain. How we think, but the key thing about a, i, to date it has, it has always been tried to mimic the logical brain. Not the emotional right. So thats why a lot of the work that we do is to understand that fiction, that empathy is really that new ones on how that wisdom is gonna get manifests that to really help you with your emotions to help you with that sense of presence. Sometimes they may be a Family Gathering and people really want to interact with your avatar. Sometimes maybe youre too late to build an avatar for my father, but i wonder what if i created one for my kids . I asked to say and, and he said he could make the one when youre building the systems. There are 2 for new years or 2 streams that you got it from. 3 to perfect. One is the interaction layer, which can go from a holographic avatar to a chat feature phase 2 events. Email and then the other components which is very important, its, it is one under different. It is the algorithmic capabilities, the data, how the data comes in. What is under the hood of an a i clone . Well, seem to show me how it works. I need to get them data in lots of it, photos, home, videos, yearbooks, anything i can upload for jose and to create my mind file. I spend hours converting these memories into my mind file the since we last met. You have provided some, some information about lets say some t events in your lives such as the birth of your daughter aster. And it was very interesting to look at the system on how it responds to these types of interactions and questions. The as job is to learn everything you can about me from my photos. In theory, it should be able to answer questions for my daughters the same way i would my daughter wanted to know how i felt the day she was born. When you asked that question, you provided a number of images. It went and found a picture that was relevant to the day of birth. I need use different types of a i want to identify elements in that picture to come up with an answer. It actually went and created different features from your facebook identify mood or or emotion. It could feel that you were 94 percent relieved. 33 percent happy. Then it went and generated these answers for you. The system said i was relieved of stress and over whelmed with happiness. Thats not how i would word it. But this sentiment is right. So thats how st. A system recreates memory. I wonder how similar it is to the way human brains create memories. What connections are made to form and memory and whats lost when that memory is gone . So its great to find me too. Oh, great. Well, thanks for coming. Let me show you the drive out of office i have here. Doctor kalsich value and tay. Its a narrow surgeon and scientist at the criminal brain institute. When you hear about Artificial Intelligence approximating the human brain, what do you think . Yeah, i think its, its a bit of a pie in the sky. I think we know so little about the brain. So imagine us being able to create something similar or akin to it is just, its very hard to imagine the, its the most complex structure in the universe Artificial Intelligence systems and networks are trained. But theres very few things. If anything that approximate the brains ability to generalize this knowledge and one of the more difficult kind of functions that we try to measure is really memory. You know, every time i tell you a story, f more my personal life i loose and its associations in the brain. I tell you it. And then i read and codes that information. And so, you know, were all point to confound relation. So the one thing about memory is that its not absolute, and in fact its, its a lot less accurate than wed like to believe it is. Thats fascinating. So in some sense, were re creating a memory as we tell us. Yeah. And then touching it slightly. Photo shopping it. Yeah, i probably for the memories, i said its very different somehow Artificial Intelligence systems recall data. The, interestingly, you know, the factory system in the mail system has a direct input into your memory system. And i think thats one of the very unique things about the human brain is that you and your memories are lived experience there. They have this sort of richness to do you think i can replicate the human brain . I know not ever. Oh my gosh, you know you never say never right. The chelsea helped me understand the complex relationship between our brains and our bodies. How would we ever replicate that in a machine . The allison marjorie has been Pioneering Research in brain development. And hes the director of the you see san diego Stem Cell Program and hes discovered a way to grow human brain cells in a petri dish. My lab focus on Human Brain Development and evolution. And we recreate the human brain outside the body using stem cells. So my lab has be focus on reducing protocols to recreate what we call brain organizes organizer clusters of brain cells that form a simple neural network. But in a dish instead of a move all the neutral networks that we use for Artificial Intelligence, a kind of region. So they are limited on what they can do. The human brain doesnt work that way. We are more flexible. This is what we call neuro plasticity. And we, we, we can mimic that, you know, software in the computer yet because we just dont know how the brain does. So by studying how these near owns self, why are these bring organized . Perhaps we can create Artificial Intelligence algorithms that are more human like in these organize become much more complex. The nuance, like they begin to formulate thoughts. I do think that i think the future, this is definitely possible, especially if we start adding, enabling the structure. A step is required for a brain to store a memory. This is mike or re, uh, we for electro. Its printed in the bottom of the dishes. This is the plate that we use to record the activity from the organ lines. These brain cells are firing signals, speaking to each other, because thats in their nature. Brain cells form networks and communicate. They decided to try and connect these brain signals to a robot. Very original idea was okay, lets get something that has legs. So we team off, weve got a team that works on the robotic part, the form, and we started teaching the robust, weve the human cigna, the, they said the brain organized signals through the computer to the robot. Right, the, this is coming on a cell. We reprogram we made a bring organ, a line thats very organized now, since you know anything directly weve a robotic interface. The some people keep asking you are imagining, wow, i mean, can these organ wise at one point become cautiousness or, or, or cell phone aware of the start as it is an oregon . No idea dish. And i think thats possible. We dont have any evidence that this is happening now, but he might be testing the future. Well get to that stage. It makes me wonder how soon it will be before its not just inside robots, but androids power by artificially created brains. The depend, ive always been fascinated by how this country embraces ancient tradition and futuristic to the this is canon and andrew, based in the 400 year old temple in kyoto, where she gets timmons. Im buddhist teachings that are 2500 years old. The, thats the next, that in the demo system, what does that take us . I think he killed kind of see already 4 oclock on monday kit. I know youre not going to be at connection, you know, in the feedback, steven, thats steven. Got 3 fact. The building in the female, the androids have become part of the fabric of everyday life in japan. We cannot separate the robots in a few minutes. Im going through the popular humans, humans up of the board. You know, so you should google has been staring down that fin line between humans and robots. Hes the director of the Intelligent Robotics Laboratory as most of the university and im doing rolled on the bill by a professor so he should go by creating a bit of human life for a long time trying to understand what is your mind . Is it whats uh, whats kind of on the assess, we have as a few months, right . So, you know, im trying to implement and that the ideas onto that problem. Im jim and lloyd and shy fine. You might be fries, you should not be. It will, shes building early prototypes for what may become much more advanced a androids. My name is jeff. No, it has travelled around the world to give talks. And even though its a far cry from the androids on west world, heres an a i clone that looks so much like the human people see the android on stage and mistake it for him. People say so. And that to me that people are like over nice, they my android as myself, was quite interesting experience for me it is very difficult to pull that called the final thoughts. So we kind of minute, assuming i should have on file that we have to make as fox the out of us. This is the Fun Development since all on the right to can change it. Or she has collaborated on many androids including their latest child robot called a book. Ringback it booky translates us breath symbol of life. A bookcase, a child with amyris, everybody. So kind to the child on the right. 22 are the good. It was just so weird because youre like a right script. My hand move. Yeah. Its so strange to be held by the key. Whats going on in his mind could issue. So nice to me to the union is if i jump on is the spirit. So ill jump on is the cartridges. So we be, everything is, has a saw this one has this on to joe has a saw him, i have a solid design, so we did it with this things this, your mind, the others and everything. I just sort of watching you do key. I cant help but seem as a little child filled with curiosity in wonder about the world, the coming okay. But again, i can say, he said, when you see a spike in the Information Technology is a sign that youre in the end of the times. There was alw