7000 philistines havent been killed, but isnt. In the last, almost 3 weeks hes read, hes not at the war with human beings. We are at war with monsters. These are crimes. This is barbaras, our goal is to completely read the k come license capabilities and we will use every mean thats our disposal. To accomplish that, stop the bonds and save lives. Also coming up the war in ukraine had the worlds attention until the her mazda attack on israel forest. A re focus is russia. Seizing an opportunity. Tonight, we look at the battle for a beef. I do agree plenty of Ukrainian Army has well defended positions fits troops, and its not telling me thats why it will be not able to inflict such a serious loss is on the Russian Forces. Which of our viewers watching on cbs in the united states, into all of you around the world . Welcome. We begin the day with the 9 time rehearsal for an invasion. Last night is rarely tanks rolled into the gaza strip and then rolled back out the military calling the brief incursion a preparation for the next stage of fighting. It came just hours after israeli Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu told the nation that a Ground Invasion remains likely. He did not give any clues about when that invasion might begin. Or when the sun rose over garza thursday. So did is really rockets the bombardment of gauze that continuing on this the 20th day of this war since october 7th, where the 8000 people in israel and gaza have died making this the deadliness of the 5 guns over wars for both sides and the war it has dominated meetings this week at the united nations, the un security council, and the you in general, assembly transformed into battlefields of words and ideas this week of scene heated exchanges over efforts to hold the fighting in the gaza strip. Israel is demanding the resignation of you in chief antonio gutierrez, accusing him of remarks and justifying terror attacks by him. Off on wednesday, gutierrez said he was shocked at the misinterpretations of his words. And today, at the general assembly, the middle east and its deep divisions. They were on show yet again, the calling for the past 16 years, the International Community and the un has been complacent to how much a thorough build up in guys, a come place in the world has kept its head in the sand. Does come us imbedded. Its me size and rock, its deep. Weve seen an under the civilian population of guys a can this would be defended. These are crimes. This is barbaras and if you do, if you do not stop it for all those who are killed, stop it for all those whose lives weekends didnt sage. My 1st guess tonight is a man who helped bring israelis and palestinians as close to peace as anyone. Yoshi violent is considered the architect of the 1994, also records between israel and the palestinian liberation organization. He served as minister of justice and religious affairs under Prime Minister, a whod brock it since that. And he has remained committed to a path to peace just last year. He supported a proposal for an Israeli Palestinian confederation, an idea that seemingly fell on deaf. Yours mister biling, its good to have you with this to night. This week were having me. When you look at what happened at the the you, when this week when the un secretary general said that the october 7th attack did not happen in a vacuum that prompted israels even ambassador to demand that the secretary general resign. What did you think when that happened . Of all the issues a, somebody who supports is ryan, who believes in these rand, well believe seeing base. What was shocked by what he will but, but what hes so in the region and a regret 40, he was rejected. And when he asked that to visit is a few days ago, i dont know why these rarely government decided to do Something Like that. He made a huge mistake by saying that a that, that, that they, they crazy crazy eyes. These kind of a dock against a babies and, and we man and, and, or do a peeper a, or was not in a vacuum because it was not the situation that in which the come us people out saying we would like to was piece with use way we would like to a divide delay and we would like to do the piece and it is impossible because value unemployed. And and because the res wally in direct drew, they had to do stuff. You know, this is not the situation that perhaps, well, the situation of the 1st, if the father of the but his opinion is against easy way in 87. What happened is something which is totally crazy. It is not drinking anywhere. And rather than totally rejecting the, he gave the impression, although he did not say that he, he understood what the, how much they did. But if it was nothing ivank you, then youll give some kind of legitimacy that he meant that he would, it would resign. Is a big mistake of is way e, i dont think that they, he deserves that says such a an update to the fuse. When do with him, let me ask you this week on wednesday in the times of israel, the is really right. Or youll see kline holland, the road to blame the occupation and its consequences wholly on israel is to dismiss the history of his really peace offers in palestinian rejection. Has the world forgotten what you and others achieved with the oslo accords in 1994 . Or youll, you know, such a question to which the answer is, is because if it goes be asked and should be as visa v, the piano, the being always oh, bob, now and we had absent downs with the piano. How much is something is how much doesnt pulled anything from us. They dont want to, to divide the land. They dont want to have peace, which is right. And this is why it was a mistake to allow some us to ronnie the elections of 2006, and to remain in delete the she of guys the despite of all the de violent and count those that we have with the we had with each other, but the point is that these really right . So how much is it bit the intel look at the old label, then the piano because the be an o wanted and wants to divide the land. This is the major issue between us and them and drive the then understanding that this was also the interest is way they refilled and need to look at the well didnt want anything from us, but the were going to disappear just by the i want to, i want to come back to im also just a 2nd, but i want to stick with history for a moment the the oslo accords. They did not mention the establishment of a palestinian state. Was that a mistake . Is that something you regret now . The this was the request of the police thing is they say we dont want to mention the it, but its being in state as one of the issues that should be sold to with the permanent agreement. There were 5 issues, like bold is if you get a drizzle name and the police being a state. And they explained the because they said this is ella rifles, the nation. And we have dont need to from, you need to go see asians of the principal of the police being a state. So peak is not, that is what i said, no way we, we should talk about that. But as the, instead i mean, or the negotiate, those knew that to be able to talking about the a or thinking about that. But as being, as they there is no other solution. Well that theyre going to need to have a club. I mean, it does the, but it does not mention because they said that they didnt want to, to discuss it. They didnt want to negotiate it because they werent. Thats was there, right . This is the reason. So a that, that the question is whether it was possible to get a 93 permanent agreement rather than an interim agreement or 5 years. And when i understood that we had positives in also they being oh, a people will people with whom i believe because strike could be i went to a rep being to the problem and its been a since we missed department is the i believe that we should not, well, we should note it tried to have a 50 agreement right now. There is in the book, you only do which may be a very rail to go for the building at the agreement so that the extremist on both sides would not have a bill for unity to afloat. Oh, well, iphones. He explained that issue, he referred to go along the madrid conference guidelines, the american guidelines, and often entering the group 5 use it rather than getting that directly to a permanent agreement which may not succeed. The negotiations may not succeed for permanent agreement. And they, i believe that this was a very big mistake. Miss brown, let me bring it up now into the present in an interview last month about 3 weeks before the october 7th, the tax. You gave an interview to the spanish newspaper l parties, and you were quoted as saying the palestinians tragically have become resigned to their limited options. And this disappointment feels the divide between how boss and fatah would, would you say that today considering this global course of support that we are seeing now for the palestinians and godson where is this . The support is, is very popular, not the key or no pay the people who fill out the piano, the biggest and they me so from us, how much just you know, through them from the roof of guys uh, in 2007. When they 2 guys up by falls its, i mean, even now when we are trying to think about what to be in the morning after the end of the well go should through guys is way to succeed. To prevent the, how much for continuing control guys. Then that being low is not in a hurry to get the bill to, to get back to, to a guys that a, because of the, i mean mostly the to well, its there. So even when you hear that thing, joe, then i mean other places people are saying, oh oh oh, comparing what they, how much viewed on that black set the date a few weeks ago and, and they and what usually in each recreation does you know that you know the people who hold their motivations, you know that how much is an estimate of, of many, many forces in the middle east. Well, would like to see is way this does seem to them from governing. They get the guys a streak that they k delta deal public opinion. And this is a problem. You, you said before the october 7th attacks that the jewish settlements in the west bank. Well, one of the biggest obstacles to piece the current government, the one that was in place before october, so that it was the 1st ever it is real to make an ex agent of the west bank. A stated objective and its coalition agreement. I mean, there had to really sting for someone like you why i, i believe that today the car in governmental is very laid by and it doesnt, you know, is a big obstacle for peace bite sense. And the encouraging a moles that domains all housing youll need seeing the guidance of domains is a, is a very, very big a obstacle. You and one of the ideas that they, i suggested it but not, not only meaning, it is a group of bodies genius and hes really the police thing in group is led by the wto. He but who has any you still have, as you mentioned before, a configuration that holy land configuration of east wetland by this time in the future, which we allow, all those settlers who will find themselves in the bodies being in state. Once we draw a boulder between ease, wet and biased, i duly main. Do been in a by this time is a, it was, it is a, it will say palestine and they seek is dental fees, right . Like the same number of but its genuine citizens who would like to live in east way, and wed be allowed to do that as film and in a residence. So then you can really a take off the table to the issue of evacuating hundreds of thousands of a offered a set list. And if, if that is removed, i believe that the way for an agreement will be open. And since sometimes in history or many times in his history, the full, its full piece will accelerated as a result of what you hold that this very said situation when we see our saves now fighting in gaza. And of course, the v is a heat and software and, and pay the prize even if we all feeling the median devices, youll have to leave the homes even. There is no such a big a or positive a or a nouns made full of them. I believe that it might deal with the current situation. The current tragic situation may be and etc ration towards peace if we all wise enough to use these up up to anything. But that is a positive way to end our segment, mr. By then, unfortunately, were out of time, but we certainly appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts with us tonight. Mr. Youll see violent. Thank you. Thank you very much. While the middle east conflict has diverted, the worlds attention away from the board in ukraine. Russia has been trying to seize the moment. Its been stepping up. Its a salt in the east of the country. One of the main areas that russia has been trying to capture is the ukranian town of deep cube has been reporting heavy fighting there in the past few weeks. It says that despite the heavy losses, russia continues with its attempts to take the town. Lets take a closer look now the situation on the front line and what seems to be one of the most contested points in the conflict right now. This is abdul ukrainian controlled city. Just 10 kilometers from 20th of the month. Some of the defensive Russian Forces, the going full out against ukrainian positions. Here the fighting is most intense. But ukraine is at the time to prepare, developing, and reinforcing its defenses since rushing back to purchase took over nearby to net. Back in 2014. In russia is now coming up against the very same problems that the ukrainians did during that summer offensive to peoples its youtubes e q. People in your near crania nami, has well defended positions french troops, and its telling me thats why it will be not able to inflict such a serious loss is on the Russian Forces and prevent them from advancing about off give Capital Speed the pool of do you get those hes getting these gum Ukrainian Forces can direct out to the re, strikes from the safety of deep underground positions and oversee everything with the help of drones. When russian soldiers leave their homage, vehicles, ukrainians, control grenades on them from above. Cranes, military claims russia has lost more than 2000 soldiers enough to youve got your where are you the if the russians have been able to clear the client and mine failed, we would have seen that homage vehicles making more progress as it is. Thats stuck in convoys on not a very well they become easy targets to create in forces. Liquid mission, you know, getting the skis. Ukrainian military blog is posted face video, showing what they say is one of the drones destroying a russian flag on a hill overlooking the city. The message is clear, even russias symbolic gains and of the of the going to be short lived. This map was compiled from open source data by the institute for the study of war and shows areas considered to be russian gains in yellow at most, lets say Russian Forces have advanced by an estimated 1. 5 to 2 kilometers, still fall from surrounding of div come fighting ukraine this summer and autumn has shown the 20th century mind fields and defensive positions can still make things almost impossible for 21st century. Always come spring, but ukraine and russia. I like to to look for place to tech. The tech knew anything like have difficult places where the enemy hasnt had a chance to begin. I remember rowland is a military analyst at the worst studies department of keens college london. I asked her why russia is focusing its forces on a gift. Now, despite the heavy losses there, good evening. Well, that is a good question. We have to go back a little bit to 2014. And that is one of the ukranian troops started for defining their positions. And i of the, of the, of the, of got by the russians is consumed or is a key to controlling the dumbass and to liberating the so called bonus peoples republic. So for russia of the of card is very important and especially because of russians are always claiming that the crating is by using their artillery to sheldon. Thats so that would be one political and strategic reason for liberating of the of golf from the russian perspective. And the other idea is that the russians one to control the view of cohort lift the highway and also open up the road to chrome at work. So it does have logistical advantages. And given the geographic position of, of the, of crime, the features that its on, on an elevator, the area. So they would be on high ground. The russians, if they took of the of which would give them a certain advantage as well, and help them reinforce their defensive positions there. You know, we, we talk a lot about mines drones, artillery and these weapons appear to have locked in the front lines, making a breakthrough extremely difficult for both sides. Is there any way to overcome an opponent that is so well entrenched, you know, be russia or you correct as well . If you need from the ukrainian perspective, what do you bring in . Moultrie is trying to do a certain noise or a waste you or come this seeming died lock, and that would be to try and over stretch rushes capabilities and loop for weak spots and rushes defenses along the entire line of contact along the entire front line. And that could be one way of avoiding this deadlock. Another way is what your brain has been doing because of lack of progress in the condo offensive ins, operation of what would be targeting so called high value targets, such as logistical nodes, command and control centers. The black sea fleet h q, for instance. So trying to broaden the operational spectrum and to where down the adversarys. And for the russians, the russians are on the defensive. Now was what put in pauls active defense enough to youve got down play the whole situation. So they are waiting out until the ukrainian side run sort of themes they want to seize and ukrainian capabilities degraded as much as possible. And so as were entering this complicated season was mod. And then later on, frost, i think the russians might be preparing for a follow up counter offensive, and were seeing movement in guns square seeing movement in of the of cost. So the russians are trying to ensure that the Korean Forces cannot and concentrate in one specific location. And of course, long range strikes on infrastructure and is another option. How effective will western bade precision weapons. Im thinking about attack thems a storm shadow. How effective will they be in breaking this apparent deadlock as well . It depends on how theyre used, for instance, for um, storing shadow. Lets consider those 1st. Those are area to surface missiles so they require a Fighter Aircraft to be fire. The ukraine has some 24 and some 27 for those purposes that happens specifically adapted for delivering the missiles. Now, what is important is to know which targets you want to strike because one storm shadow was callup and this will cost a 3300000. 00 us dollars. So they are very expensive, they have various cars and it will, it, they can certainly make a difference, but they have to be integrated into the overall operational design. And they have to be deployed against hires and targets that otherwise wouldnt be