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Transcripts For ESPRESO 20240704

Definitely being tested right now uh the power of those countries that strive to protect freedom, democracy, but also territorial integrity is being tested, we see that the old institutions do not work, why did i switch from freedom and democracy to territorial integrity because well, in fact, we know that in the world, by far, all countries are democratic , and even these countries lets say some of the countries that are voting now in the United Nations for the territorial integrity of ukraine, they are not democratic. Yes, here we are almost all arab countries, we have the majority the vast majority of arab countries support, with the exception of syria, eritrea and algeria yes, but well, it is difficult to call them successful democracies, again, part of the country of africa aa, that is, for them ere lets say this is a slogan that we talk about in europe in the west aa what this is the struggle of dictatorship with democracy or democracy against dictatorship , it does not work for them, but the slogans of territorial integrity work for them. These are pragmatic slogans, that is, food and security , energy security, freedom of navigation, environmental security, etc. The admissibility of rattling Nuclear Weapons it works like that for them, thats why the world really is now i listened a little to what my colleague said, how can i agree with him lets remember that when the soviet union collapsed , francis fokuyama, whom we all love because he defends such a proukrainian position but then he made an incorrect prediction. He said that the world will be the end of history this is the victory of such a liberal democracy, er, in fact , it should have become er, politically investigative, one polar, but we understood that in fact everything will be much more difficult, and we saw that the world, and new centers of power are growing in the world, and it is not only china, but these Regional Centers in different parts of the world, and the threat that the world will turn into a multipolar world, and from many polar to semipolar, but already not like it was during the cold war, that is, then there was the bipolarity of the usa, the ussr, and now the usa and china. Such a world is beginning to take shape , we dont know whether it will become like this, and we see that chinas allies are just such countries as russia, early because countries with weak democracies are dictatorial regimes , and that is why President Biden began to say that the world is conducting new ones. Schemes and we can see some dictatorial regimes that are nevertheless or authoritarian regimes that still understand the need to make sure that russian aggression against ukraine does not end with the annexation of ukrainian territory, i have already mentioned this country, so lets take these lucky countries, the countries of the persian gulf, saudi arabia. They are trying to maintain good relations with russia, but at the same time they talk about the territorial integrity of ukraine, so the world is really getting complicated. I continue to believe that in reality, of course, democracy has more prospects democracy has more potential than dictatorship and this is shown by World History World History shows that dictatorships can be effective in such a uh, so to speak, in the stavskyi zabize yes, but when we we are talking about more faithfully in sprinter yes, but when we talk about long distances, democracies are more effective , and that is why i still believe that the free world will have it, it will have an advantage but it will not be an easy world and we have to understand it, we have to understand it and when we are talking about ukraine. I think that mr. Mach, where he is so very, very good at the end, switched to ukraine, our prospects in the new world, we have to understand that, again, uh, far from all countries will unanimously support ukraine simply because that we are a democracy or because the russians violate the rules of human rights, and here the situation is more complicated because these countries of the global cock have a very strong antiwestern bias because of colonialism because of this legacy of colonialism in the countries of latin america this is a very powerful antiamericanism and it affects everything therefore, for these countries, if a multipolar world is not a minus, but a plus, they would try to play on the contradictions between those big big countries, but at the same time , we have to understand that even these countries, which, in the heads of their leaders, are very present antiwesternism when we come to pragmatic things, i. E. Trade, investment, ah, the west has a huge advantage here, you know, only over russia, yes, or lets say russias trade with africa is very small , in fact, and before china, that is, before chinese aid was perceived as hurrah, now there are a lot of african countries saw that this is actually a cabal and that is why they will be more cautious about accepting this help from china, and even more so from russia, you know, if the countries of ukraine and africa, lets say by the way, lets go to putin in st. Petersburg where the summit was held russia africa came with more than 40 invited or even more than 50 invited leaders of african states, as many as 17 came, and most of them these are those who came to power as a result of the coup, and well, that is, they are mentally similar to putin somewhere and understand him, he understands them but many ukrainians can seek support in ukraine already after the end of the war, because we understand very well that china , for example, invests money in those countries, gives diamonds there, for example, gives gold. To trade with all this and so on, and china is interested in finding money where there are resources, and it also invests in belarus , especially in all economic schemes, this is understandable, but ukraine is a country that in the future can be a leader, and in the fact that ukraine has huge resources. We are now talking about metals and e and about land about grain about water about rare earth metals. By the way, what are there in ukraine , what are the future metals . Here in the summer earth metals are what china and ukraine have large reserves of, so we have to understand that war is also a resource, and war is also important. Whoever wins can have a big profile and great influence, thats why the war in ukraine is so and so is sovereignty. They are independence, but we understand that for world players, resources are also important , who will dispose of these resources and this large amount of these resources, as they say , is located in the south, where counteroffensive counteroffensive actions are currently taking place, so what am i leading to, that in the future, ukraine can to be as a leader in the development of military cooperation can turn into a country or remain what it was, a country that was a supplier of raw materials. Processes, manufactures some pundis and sells conventionally speaking for 30 for 300 dollars, yes. The same is why ukraine cant sell grain. And pundis have added value. Plus, ukraine is the engines for rockets, its the launching of satellites, its all the tanks, its the planes, well, ukraine is everything, listen, its a super powerful state, logically, which can shoot like that in this war, in your opinion , is there understanding, first of all, i dont say now about the people, about the Ukrainian Government and the people, the intellectual, the intellectual elite, the understanding of that. And how do we, where are we and how do we take our place , yes, victory, yes. As you think is why is this understanding not fully formed, how can it be helped to form it, who should work on it, you asked many important and fundamental questions, well, the first one, i would like to respond if we are talking about those who came to the russia summit, africa and 17 president s, 10 prime ministers, and this of course, striking drops compared to the previous one. These were the 45 leaders, because different representatives from other countries. These are vice prime ministers or the minister of foreign affairs. That is, it really says that africa is now more, lets say , wary of well, not wary, but is cautious about contacts with russia but among those who came, i am not only russian vassals, there is also a heavy galik , president ramopos came again, yes, that is, africa cannot, south africa cannot ignore it due to its approach to the multipolar world , they came, but ramopos too i must say thank you that after all, under the pressure of many factors, we did push him to the point that, again, with the help of various factors, there were russian missiles that fell on kyiv when he was here, and the pressure the west has a democratic position, the judicial system in africa itself, but still he took the position that it is not just that putin is not coming, but it was said that putin will be arrested. That is, this is our big victory , yes, but look when we talk about what will happen after the war, well, i guess for us now the main task is still to win and win without any concessions to the aggressor. That is why we ask such a provocative question. And if there is no help, are the ukrainians ready to continue fighting, and the ukrainians say that they are ready to continue and it is better to freeze , but not to make concessions to russia, not to record them in documents. It will be difficult and bloody, but it is very right that we are asking the question and what will happen next in the world , ah, you know, i am a little bit careful with the word leadership of ukraine. I think that we have already won a moral victory and definitely that we will be such a moral leader. This is true. How we will be able to transform this moral leadership in that we repelled the Nuclear State of the aggressor in terms of leadership in specific areas, including economically. This is another issue. We have many lakes of our own. That is, Digital Technologies and our economic ties with african countries, which are now broken, but which will obviously be restored, and our experience in agriculture and so on, that is, all this, well , not only about african countries, you correctly mentioned this space cooperation and engines and so on. By the way, what about us unites with many of these countries of the global cock are the socalled middle countries. That is, we are not large countries, but we are such average countries, average in terms of area , population, and so on. And this is what unites us with many of these countries, and we can offer them cooperation with such countries as kenya, nigeria, latin american countries, and many other countries as well, but here , once again, you know, we have, if we, if we want to build fullfledged cooperation with these countries, we should not limit ourselves only because now there is a war and everything, you are absolutely right, we need to look at the perspective, we need to look at ah ah ah perspective plans for cooperation it is correct and at the same time to be realistic, so that is, realism it consists in the fact that when the reconstruction of ukraine begins, it will be it is a very difficult process, we understand how much was destroyed, how many people left, how the sociodemographic conditions have changed. There will be big problems here, but on the other hand, you know, a crisis is always an opportunity to change something. That is, we will not rebuild something is left behind, outdated, what we have left from the union, and we can look for new , new spheres and navigational areas where we can go forward. If i may, i will add another extremely painful topic for us this is the topic of the disintegration of russia, and yevhen mak also spoke about it, where i think that most of us of course want it to happen, but in fact we dont know if it will happen or not, and if it happens , then what can happen, what can become a trigger , that is, it is absolutely obvious that we have to consider this option, that we have to work with those forces that are in, lets say, in the autonomous regions of russia and that are in opposition to the current regime , what do we have to explain to our western partners . I think the answer will probably be unlikely, that is, we need to prepare for such a scenario. But whether it will be launched depends on internal russian and internal russian factors, and it is very difficult to predict how this process will go. Come on. Lets remember how it was with the soviet union, that is, centrifugal forces began to work, the republics began to declare independence first, and the state declarations somewhere but gorbachev had the possibility of reforming the soviet union, he wanted to sign this union treaty. Against gorbachev, who actually instigated this instigated this painting along the border lines between the union republics, we must understand that in the Russian Federation it can be it will be it is much more difficult because when we talk about National Minorities, they are such minorities in Many National autonomies, and the majority are ethnic russians, and the National Minorities themselves are largely russified, that is, yes, there are exceptions , there are exceptions, that is, there are the republics of the north caucasus, for example, or there what is it, but in many others, well, this process of russification has entered very strongly. Yes, and from the point of view of russians, the very process of russification of leading peoples or National Minorities is also not so easy here this is to be compared with the collapse of the soviet union, so once again i will repeat that as analysts, as scientists, we have to consider various options , this is one of the options, but to make , lets say, a single bet on it , well, i guess we cant. It really carries with it also many, many, many dangers, so we have to prepare for several scenarios , you asked if our leaders, our elites, are ready to transform ukraine into a modern european state. Well, you know, i think that this war led to great changes. That is, this increase in support for nato and, well, the european union, there was a lot of support before, but now we have received candidacy for membership in the eu, we have to fulfill our task and, of course , now a lot will depend on how we do it we will carry out the task. You and i, and experts from journalists , of course, have a lot of questions for some of the people who have been exposed in corruption scandals, but who for some reason remain in the system and at the top and in the system of the ruling party, and so on. There are examples when there is a quick reaction, but there are examples when there is no such reaction, and here we have to continue the pressure of the Civil Society of the media of the common type on oleksia. We determine ourselves. At the mohyla academy, you finally know what im going to say. The new world, this is a new saying from the orthoseklor. It was voiced in the days of the roman empire by the poet publinus virgil maron. He won and it is on the american currency novus ordo sequor, it appears sooner or later eras change, you know now eras are changing well, lets say you watch the news in congress there were open hearings and he is an employee of the former american intelligence david graz said that the pentagon has samples of human biological substances selected from the places where ufos fell , and then the teachings of Stanford University today develop cancer rivers, when cancer will eat itself, they do such things that will attract cancer cells, which instead of being fed by these substances. Well, there i dont know when its called , they will devour it and die. In a word , scientists are now turning food for cancer cells into poison for cancer cells. The world is changing globally. Warming, different moments, a possible lack of water, a change of ee belts where there will be equatorial, where there will be subequatorial, where there will be continental, where there will be, and all this is changing. There are many discoveries in them, we will feel the fact that we did not even think that it could be like that, we are with those on the threshold. We are in these, we are going into these big changes, so you know the only truth is that we must not listen to liars of all kinds, we must work , move forward and understand that nothing is permanent today in this world, neither in ukraine nor in the whole world in general, there is nothing permanent. In fact, everything is happening right now and we are in the process of this creation, but we are paying for it today with blood, someone will pay the money, someone will pay with Something Else and we are paying in blood yes, but in any case, it depends on us how we will appear in this new world. Because we do not really know what this new world and our new order will be, and there is no answer to this, but we must move forward and definitely be ready to be plastic with our psyche first for everything plastic in order to accept new things, no matter what they are, because we dont know many things, but they will be put before us. The period when is when is the new world being created . Not every generation has such a chance. It is either a curse or a blessing. I dont know how to decide for each person, but we are in this. Thank you for being with us. Espresso Taras Shevchenko resists his words on the chevrons of the defenders of his ideas in the hearts of millions of free people his lines in battle songs at the front and in the rear fight fight the formula of our victory on august 2627 , shevchenko is waiting for you in a military uniform at the she. 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