Directions at the moment, where it is difficult for us to work as a volunteer for them. Well, it is very difficult for civilian people, and in this composition because that it is difficult to get there, the enemy is firing and firing at these routes that we can get to in this due to the difficulty and again what do our citizens need most now and are you working with them to motivate them to evacuate because this is a problem well not only Donetsk Region and Kharkiv Region and the south of our country, where there is a real , real understanding that people can die, people can suffer from something well, but evacuation is often refused so what is the main difficulty, please . Well, the first difficulty is to get to these points to reach those points is very difficult. Roads are shot at. All approaches. They are the first the factor is the most serious, they dont understand what could be there with them in a minute, a second, day 2. I dont understand the seriousness of the situation, and of course we are trying to bring water to the donbass and try to deal with it. Talk to people, er, persuade them, it works. We have some, er, he persuades, some leave, then they thank him, because how could we tell them that way, and three eyes saved people, well, yes, because people sit there, they dont see whats in the news they dont see eh krome swoego the nobleman didnt see anything else, thats why he didnt call the kramator slavyansk, er, dnieper, and they really see that what a difficult situation they were in. Is it possible to supply not only water, if they told me, but also some information to those who remain, er, in the occupied territories or in the frontline zone and there is no access to television , to the internet, to ukrainian broadcasters, that is, there is no access to information from the Ukrainian Armed forces. The military talked to them, the police talked to them, even the mouths were bruised and we were like erer crows, lets bring them and motherinlaws erer, these are their relatives recorded and video messages , voice messages that erer give them confidence that we are not just there with empty we come with words. And this is a confirmation, and the relatives try to persuade them. He listens to er russian radio and its sad because some people have their own generation, they sometimes cant sober up and assess the situation, and more and more lets lean to the opposite side. Id like to ask one more thing. They kidnapped a female Agent Network in Donetsk Region that worked for the fsb and the wagnerites for a long time, they worked, well, actually there was a sleeping group, i understand, then they were activated well, they were sent to collect certain information about the work about the movement of the robot of the armed forces of ukraine well, perhaps such people also work as volunteers in the sense of handing over places of deployment or their routes of movement or time of movement. How does it work for you . There may be in lviv oblast, in donetsk oblast, there may be in Kherson Oblast and in kyiv. It doesnt matter. But im simply leading to the point that there may be such people, and do you feel a possible threat from such people somewhere . Because of course, such the agents may not have found all of them, not all of them have been exposed yet and not all of them have been brought to justice. Does this factor affect your work in any way . Do you still go despite the fact that someone may be sitting somewhere waiting for help and others may be sitting and passing on your coordinates is there any information about you for those who want to carry out missile or other strikes, please, yes, for the number of these people in those territories , we will take a lot of them. Even the same bakhmut, or bakhmut, as people correctly call him there er, so there are people like that, so as not to gather probably because of one such a person. There was even a typical example for you. And somehow they had a connection there when they went out and he simply relays the information that a crowd of people are asking. Well, he has no idea what we want to give to the people. You know how one child with everyone with the military with the police, volunteers, thats all they have, only bandera people, especially if you still speak ukrainian there, we are all their enemies, and he does not understand the seriousness of the situation, that he will now give you information for us in the courtyard of first of all, there is some of our equipment, it will be eh well, it is very bad if they really fall on it, the second is that people are there, it is the most important thing for us, eh, to somehow save their lives, and the third is ego through the house eh eh, across the street, there is a house, he doesnt understand whats going on god forbid they miss and uh, this rocket will just hit his house, yes, somehow people dont understand everything about a serious situation , they just send us as a mother, uh, there were very big cases, they call us, how come they didnt call us there anymore well, thats an example, here are some hours. Im very glad people, well, not so much, not so aggressive, not so prorussian, not septories, yes , there are people, there are such everywhere. You know, not now people thought, what are you saying . Yes, they are standing there somewhere, i say again, there were traitors in lviv oblast, ternopil oblast, volyn, kyiv , everywhere there are people who lead the enemy, who live by their juicy ideals and believe that putin should come to introduce. What now . Does anyone think that there are more of these people somewhere . Well, there really is. There is no place where they will somehow accumulate. The accumulation is what motivates you to work despite all these threats, despite the attack. This is the aggressive behavior of certain certain citizens , even without knowing them, you can be citizens of ukraine. To name well, but in any case , and hmm, help is being formed. Someone has to give money. Do you collect money among the people or is there a business that joins in . Because you know, donating to the armed forces and peoples needs are growing and prices in the country are growing and everything is growing and plus, all the same, this volunteer help has to go. So how do you go about it, what motivates you to continue your work, and i will also add what is most needed. You know, im also in eh since day one, fullscale wars, i am at the front, you can say so, and thats why i am motivated by the fact that everything must be in its place, that is, for example, the military, eh , just a big low bow to them for protecting us. Our task is to first of all, it is somewhere in the provision of our army, er, where it is in the support of people in aid, you know, there is a military example, their task is to fight, their task is not to evacuate civilians who for some reason did not leave, eh, i have an example at the moment eh well, i decided something for myself for example, i will be needed on the volunteer front, first of all i am a student on this menu, i cannot fully enter combat actions to fight eh, maybe in the future somehow i will go there and get to eh, but at the moment i am on this front volunteer we help. We have a team, uh, now, where we are responsible for everything, yes money, so where do we take, uh, unfortunately, now there are no such funds for businessmen who can make large sums, uh, a sacrifice for our support, support for military people, uh in principle, for our work, it is fullfledged, therefore how are we trying to develop our social networks . To open meetings on our cards. Also costs such as for people there are barrels, generators, pumps for the fact that at the moment we pump, pump, drive, deliver water before , serious products were raised, that is, well , you know everything at the moment, the prices , even more so even here, even though there would be more ak purchased there the center of ukraine on the west in ukraine, too, buy 1,000 bottles of oil there. You can calculate in a calculator how much it will cost , so unfortunately, there are such needs , but they are necessary. Eh, for civilians these stoves are stoves and we, er, it was a great winter, we found people , the font, who installed these stoves and stoves for us, and we installed them without problems in the city of bakhmut. Thank you, mr. Bohdanov , unfortunately, our time has come to an end. Thank you for your work above all and for your comments frank four bohdan druzyaka, a volunteer works in Donetsk Region, about the unreality of a volunteers life, peoples needs and peoples mood , so on, lets take a short break, then well come back, or victor yagun, Major General of the sbu, will not be visiting, so well talk about serious matters, stay behind the press, angularity in the joints and spine , osteochondrosis gout, radiculitis, arthritis and arthrosis, with all these problems, you will find dikrasin, a product for external use, consultations by phone 0800215 49 free calls, pain can become an obstacle, how many stairs are not with mine dolgit relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility, you can also walk dolgit the only yellow cream for joint pain and for muscle spasms, dolgit antisum pills for relaxing muscles and threads this was me before , bleeding gums, inflammation of the gums, and the solution was so simple gum problems lacalut active lacalut active actively overcomes bleeding gums, protects against periodontitis and visibly tightens the gums lacalut active action you feel immediately new lacalut active plus even more active protection turn on good this when you want a click and you are in the world of multivv click and around the universe of movies and then megogo turn on hundreds of channels thousands of movies and sports stiffness in the joints and spine osteochondrosis gout radiculitis arthritis and arthrosis with all these problems you will find the means for external use dicrasin consultations for by phone 0800215 349 calls are free, the war is going on and not only for territories, it is also a war for umy russia is throwing millions of petrodollars to turn ukrainians into little russians ukraine will become russia analysis and analysis of information about ukraine of russian propagandists concrete facts and methods by which enemy propaganda turns people into obedient zombies ruyut progolosovat residents of the peoples republic of ukraine to counter the information attacks of the russians in the project of the chronicle of the information war with olga laziness tuesday thursday friday at 17 10 on espresso tv channel every day every hour every minute we get a big the amount of information, even the most anticipated event of the year, what is actually happening at the front, what are the losses of personnel and equipment on the battlefield, how does the international evaluate our successes community and about what lies moscow from the flow of news coming from everywhere, we single out the most important your closely watching whether there will be weapons for ukraine and what and what the russian occupiers are whispering about behind the backs of the news commanders the results of the week this is a review of only important events, events of weighty and credible events this is analytics Fact Checking expert comments about this much more today about important things in simple language available to all viewers welcome to the studio iryna koval and this is the summary of the week on the espresso tv channel news summary of the week that saturdays at 9 00 p. 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And my dad served in air defense and shot down missiles over kiev finally i can tell you about it ah cool lets get back to the conversation oksano vysochanskyi vasyl zima works with you and victor yagun joins our conversation Major General of the sbu reserve former deputy head of the Security Service of ukraine glory to ukraine p viktor rector, what about the drones that actually made a coup in this war, and it seems that ukrainian drones are still more powerful, that our defenders use them better and use them more effectively than the russians, i am asking for your opinion on how ukraine manages to win with the help of drones in the sky , we dont have such tea the situation when the democratic one is in conflict with the authoritarian one, and in an authoritarian society , whether they want it or not, the vast majority everything that is done is done by coercion, and when it is coercion, it is clear that people respectively and carry out the work, or how, that is, the work well, maybe they are for money, maybe for some ideas, but it is definitely not their voluntary will and not the vision of what should be done in this way, because everything should get better, this is perhaps a philosophical question, but it works precisely in at those moments when people ask why our troops are to some extent much better than the russians, the russians take the quantity, we take the quality, and the situation with hightech weapons with the same drones, it will combine precisely because people understand where in this day, what is it for, how is it used and they try to use the opportunities they have 100 . You know, today i read the information from the Security Service of ukraine about the fact that the russians tried to infiltrate , to get the data that is available in order to understand how it is planned, what operations are planned by the armed forces of ukraine, what are the enemys attempts to penetrate, find out, tell me about what the enemy unusually er unpleasantly impressed we will say nothing about what the armed forces of ukraine are doing i would like to ask but are we now able to adequately respond to such threats, etc. These hacker attacks are other attempts by russian counterintelligence to work against ukraine, are they really less dangerous today than they were some time ago . They always need to be kept dry, as they say, because any slack it makes it possible for the patient to penetrate either into Computer Networks or agent penetration into one or other units and obtain information from the inside, and for that purpose there is a Security Service in order to provide counterintelligence with ee nu p control to provide units of the armed forces of ukraine, the authorities and prevent that intention, as for the impression of our actions , they say once again that our tactics are completely different. We do not have one general plan that cannot be adjusted. From above, he is not e became and e any ee colonel and Lieutenant Colonel major captain even lieutenant and e Senior Sergeant at the level of ee the smallest unit can adjust ee this plan is you under those actions he sees e and to agree this is without any problems with the higher management and they are perceived normally because they are far from the front , and the unit that performs the tasks directly on the battlefield can be located and it is clear that they are much better able to perform the tasks and this allows them to perform these tasks very well. Its professional hmm, even in some theatrical moments and it really shocks the enemy who, in contrast to us, is forced to carry out orders that are formed somewhere in moscow and there, in addition to the fact that they have to stand in the dark and them dont break in and carry out some uh, fixed, fixed orders that are tied to some statutes and so on, this very, very resonates with what they see on the battlefield, im not saying that uh, the enemy doesnt learn, the enemy learns quite actively , especially this it can be seen in the directions where ours are trying to advance and the tactics are changing, but the adaptation to theirs in our actions is carried out much faster than the enemy adapts to ours, we understand that you cannot pull the same joke twice to speak, we can ask in the end ee and c udanov actually told this story about ukrainian agents surrounded by putin, do you know any other stories, other cases, when it worked, when it was actually good , and the Information Campaign was carried out, and the company from the sbu or gur side, do you have such information, you see, uh, journalists are always wrong. I sometimes try with foreign journalists to explain what the enemy says about the actions of the sbu on the territory of russia this is a bluff, because according to our legislation, the sbu does not go beyond the borders defined by the 1991 border, and this is countercounterintelligence which works, including in the occupied territories, well, by no means did it conduct any special operations abroad, so what is the difference . And what is carried out by the intelligence is that it is professional, it is quite effective. I am not saying that the Security Service cannot have its sources abroad but they work remotely exclusively for those moments and which concern yes , did we lose connection or not . We have another question for mr. Yagun, so we wont let him go now. To inquire about prorussian lowlanders who are rooted in various ukrainian structures in power structures, diplomatic structures , or information about the history of the Ukrainian Embassy in india has appeared already with us. So i want to ask about uh, prorussian spying agents in ukrainian structures, and actually as an example this is the story with india with the Ukrainian Embassy in india when the dbr prepared a suspicion of dashutin and an employee of the embassy in cooperation with russia. So, how do you suppose there are many more of these agents and how are you doing with their detection . Well, in fact, we need to understand that there were agents and whatever the situation was at the front , whatever it was er, there is an ideological basis anyway, er, there are people who are ready for money for some illogical moments to work for the enemy , we just need to understand and the special Service Starts its work from this and vulnerable er sources of information, what points are of interest the enemy, and from those objects, from those dangers, they work and it is clear that they reach out to people who are trying to get access to certain sources of information, e. E. , to influence decisions, the number of the state leadership , the leadership of military units, and e. E. , taking into account this, the agency turns out to be the number it is mathematically impossible to determine, well, it is even mathematically impossible, that is why the success of the special service is equated to the number of detected or neutralized agents, and to the ext