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ESPRESO July 4, 2024

To international relations. International relations, that is why it works, but if we return to that question, what will we have problems with . I am very worried about the section assigned to the responsibility of the Russian Federation, because it is possible to receive reparations yes, the Russian Federation, unfortunately, is in the state budget, but individual responsibility is already a much more complicated process , you will see ukraine is actively working to create a special tribunal regarding the crime of aggression against ukraine. Putins number in the box to sign this uh contract about this is just you now you passed ahead just my question its just too they wanted to address to you to you to you to both of you because if we we declare that Vladimir Putin is a war criminal and a dictator, etc. , as we will sign some contracts with him, some guarantees , some, lets say even just a contract on the end of the war, this is actually for the end of our conversation a very important aspect that i would like to discuss with you. Please continue after that, we will move on to you mr. Lyzhi p roman to you i will say frankly that i do not have an unequivocal answer to this question without the Russian Federation when will they take place well, first of all, it is clear that the war this is irresponsible, if even we sign some kind of agreement on a certain truce, then we must understand that in the future we will again return to an armed conflict. And ukraine very effectively and successfully appeals to this thesis that ukrainians will not accept either the territories or the lack of responsibility. To the extent that we can convince the countries of the world and the Russian Federation that they have committed these International Crimes and that they should bear responsibility, it will be difficult work, but this is no reason not to discuss the formula peace and how to achieve it this year. Thank you, actually, the topic is much more than we have time for today, unfortunately, the novel is further from the International Lawyer for cis International Law of the Taras Shevchenko Kyiv National university, were you with us, join us , we will be glad to see mr. Oleg, lets go to sum up, we understand that certain positive trends are leading to the fact that more and more countries agree with the ukrainian vision of the end of this war. Paradoxically, the dynamics are provided by the Russian Federation, because i have repeatedly said that they have committed almost all war crimes, they have committed almost all terrorist activities, they have already committed environmental, nuclear , and so on , that is , they are scaring the whole world. The borders of ukraine to russia, it has become global that when they said that ukraine does not play any role and now children in africa are starving because of the fact that there is a war in ukraine against russia there, that is, what happened to the world and he has changed and why exactly is this situation because International Law no longer works in this form that is why ukraine now offers as a young democracy sometimes Simple Solutions sometimes very complex sometimes such as diplomats do not like but now you can ask in diplomacy and what worked what you wrote big trouble at the un where you can find anything if it is a very long letter but you cant find the peace formula and you can only cross it out now write now the law of force and not International Law and here we are breaking it as a state and it is very important if we do it, i. E. When we do it we will go down in history as a state that has withstood and that was the initiator of the reflashing, so actually it can be just the beginning of the process of changes in all paradigms, but thats all in this bench the elephant broke and we will not glue it together, we will build something new and it will be joint and here is what you said about how it can end, how we can bring him to justice only defeat only defeat when the winner is allowed everything and when ukraine by the civilized world, that is, we should not take our victory solely on ourselves, and if we sell conditionally that this is the victory of the civilized world, then we will easily be held accountable, because the winner can everything is possible so that we do not scare our viewers that everything is possible to the winner because we not barbarians in any way or not in contrast to our enemies, but look at the peoples law within the framework of any law and it was extremely important, in fact , we have literally two minutes to record the last thing. And how to interest the countries of the world, what exactly victory must be on the side of ukraine and mirna must come on the terms offered by ukraine globally globally because it is no longer there some are happening somewhere we said the problack Sea Initiative yes one more argument well food safety yes she showed that well well it is very Global Nuclear security, because everyone thought that hiroshima was the worst, it was only there once , but it is actually a threat every day, it has not been removed. In fact, it is very important, and again, it is also ecological. Well, again, when these clusters are very cool, because it is easy, easier to unite people because in some countries the ecological component is a sacred cow, then it is generally the top , this is what we need to do, and here is our formula. Put pressure for example, those who are putting pressure on russia for ecology thats why you are complaining penguins yes for them penguins may be more expensive than ukrainians yes but they will put pressure africa will say we are dying of hunger do Something Nuclear china says well wait a second, the nuclear club must somehow be taken according to the rules, and thats it. These are small injections, because i think that they can play a very good role, and it is the same. You understand, it accumulates when there are a lot of these injections. The state and the civilized world have a lot of work to do, and the civilized world must understand that it is not ukraine that should do it on its own, but that they bear full responsibility for the fact that they nurtured such a monster and they must put it to sleep together with us. We are talking about countries that still declare themselves as defenders, for example, there freedom of democracy and everything there , etc. Thank you, thank you, we have to Work Together to dismantle this matryoshka doll, in fact , the whole world is hiding somewhere, either in the kremlin or somewhere in its bunker, and from there the whole she actually wants to destroy the world , we have to break it down into elements and make a puzzle out of them into a puzzle of a peaceful successful confrontational world on the terms offered by ukraine oleg the forest political scientist was with us thank you very much for having to understand on that topic, a bonus metaphorical summary from kateryna for you, friends, if you missed any part of the conversation. And lets move on. We will talk again today. Their education is most often in fact and sometimes it hits the children the most painfully for most schoolchildren , learning in the new year will be in an offline format, but this applies only to those schools that have reliable shelters. This was told by deputy minister of education and science andriy stashkiv, the official noted that last year 75 of educational institutions had Storage Facilities that could accommodate only half of the students, but the government allocated one and a half billion hryvnias for this year as funding, the department at least expects that educational institutions have suitable for facetoface education, there will be more and there is direct, you see oleksiy, i am direct every time i say when i should say offline, i say online because of which i understand that this is actually an extremely troubling question and every time i am afraid i am afraid pray and risk taras kremin, the authorized representative of the state language protection, contact us mr. Taras congratulations, i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes and we understand that i have already said that the issue is extremely important , we know that everyone is talking about it, it is a fact that the level of quality of education in ukraine during a fullscale war. And before that, due to covid, it dropped significantly and the children, uh, need to go back to the desks, but only where it is safe. So, at what stage is the state now less space left for the new educational year, what will we come with on september 1 thank you for this question, but first of all i want to say that during the years of the war, starting from the 14th year, we were able to achieve the highest result in terms of ensuring the educational process of the state language and i, as the authorized representative of the protection of the state language of ukraine it is responsible and pleasant to say that with joint efforts we were able to achieve an unprecedented result of the first fullscale invasion , we see it as the third Academic Year in a row if we are talking about a new stage. Local authorities and, of course, the ministry of education in order to meet the Educational Needs of those seeking education. But at the same time, there is also talk about educational losses, about personnel hunger, about the lack of a sufficient network of general secondary education institutions. Well, of course , the issue of the quality of education is what we talked about, including not a long time ago, when they summed up the results of the end of the year. Well , of course, preparations for the entrance campaign to ukrainian universities traditionally lack of personnel traditionally lack of textbooks bomb shelters there and so on if there is talk about the possibility of resuming the educational process from september 1, then you have to understand that in general in ukraine it is possible, but you still have to be responsible that in the south and east it will be extremely risky and, taking this into account, in places where there will be the best ability and the best opportunity to provide for children is central ukraine, this is the west of ukraine, so it happened that a large number of internally displaced persons, even children , still remain there because it is a matter of security, it is a matter of providing workers the place of the parents themselves to create accessible opportunities for Extracurricular Activities for education, including you know that i myself come from the Mykolaiv Region and personally follow what is happening in my hometown mykolaiv, how schools are being restored in the city of snigurivka, in bashtanka, in novy buza, of course there is a dynamic, but i wanted to b for it to be much larger, because it will really recover in two to three months in some situations in six months, somewhere in a year, from the moment we were able to push the russian invaders away from there , lets say in the north, in the east it is catastrophically difficult because the issue of workers is a huge number of people who were employed in the construction industry. Today we have weapons in our hands in the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine in the russian resistance, etc. Therefore, this is the number one issue and the local authorities must make maximum efforts so that on september 1st they can actually do their best to provide our children with a highquality educational process in safe conditions. Well, of course, to give better opportunities in terms of pay for the work of pedagogical workers who , unfortunately, today need a lot of attention and in in the context of reforming the payment of pedagogical work, offline learning, because we understand that we have information that 75 of them had a storage room that accommodated only half of the students somewhere completed or a storage room was built somewhere that accommodates an objectively smaller number than the educational process in each specific institution requires do you have the information in percentages in quantitative data and how many educational institutions will open both higher and secondary education will open on september 1 in the format of fulltime education i unfortunately do not have this information, i think we are about it we will officially find out the content of the minister of education and science of ukraine, and obviously it will be august 25, the time of the august conference of pedagogical workers of ukraine. Well, as a matter of fact, on september 1, i think that there is actually three weeks to bring each of the educational institutions, but it will be far from all schools, because part of the infrastructure of general secondary education institutions of preschool after school has been destroyed and will not be able to be restored, only new construction, we are waiting for the 25th and we hope that we we are getting very positive information, positive numbers, taras lets talk about the future in general, and in particular, how we will be provided by the children who are currently studying in school, they really had a very difficult way of learning. Through the years of online education, after that, the war, and in fact, if we are talking, we are talking about educational losses about losses for ukrainian science and future culture in many spheres of activity. To what extent can these costs be significant and in what way can we as a state now take certain actions certain mechanisms in order to minimize these negative consequences. I think that a tremendous amount of work should be done, and in terms of restoring a highquality educational process, it directly depends on our success on the battlefield, thanks to the efforts of the armed forces of ukraine, we really have huge liberated territories today. But on full life should be restored as soon as possible in these deoccupied territories, starting with the restoration of the work of local selfgovernment bodies by the state authorities, of course , educational institutions and possible and quick revolutions of educational institutions, lets say in the south , in the east, dozens of universities found themselves far outside the borders of their regions, last week i was in kherson on a working visit and met with the team of the kherson state university, they are now relegated to the prykarpatsky university named after ivanofrankivsk and this introductory campaign for them was extremely difficult risk of the main but at the same time they were able to attract a sufficient number of Higher Education applicants to the first year of the mykolaiv program the problem that i see is that recovery will take more than one year and at a short pace without Real Investments, we will not be able to do anything, of course we must support and maximally shape the reform of education in accordance with the law on education. Employees, these are additional payments for the prestige of teaching work, these are Real Investments, and the activities of pedagogical universities, because without a military man, there is no doctor and without a teacher, it will be catastrophically difficult for us to restore the ukrainian state. Well, of course, these are technical specialties , the minister has repeatedly spoken about the need for Real Investments in the construction industry. So, these are construction colleges , construction universities, and we have such a network in ukraine. Well, of course, these are the educational institutions that will give us added value im talking about those im talking about hightech areas of Cyber Security well , of course, im talking about those areas that we need to restore in my mykolaiv, we him our hometown has a shipbuilding university, but unfortunately we need to restore shipbuilding as well as forage building, which can provide, including surface underwater drones, necessary both for understanding and for the successful promotion of the armed forces of ukraine on various fronts. Therefore, these and many other things they are also discussed in parliamentary committees, they are also discussed in the ministry of education, and i want to believe that the International Support that constantly comes to ukraine is directed precisely at reforming education. But in at the same time, we need to look for better opportunities for the revolution of ukrainian citizens who have temporarily left the borders of our country and we must return them. That actually at this august conference, both these vectors of the development of ukrainian education, science and innovation, as well as those that will be truly anticipatory and will provide new opportunities, will be discussed and the development of the technological process in ukraine, mr. Taras, you yourself said that the restoration of ukraine is impossible, in particular, without teachers from teachers, and many of them, unfortunately , had to leave ukraine, but many are returning, in particular, among your colleagues , teachers of the ukrainian language and literature, among other teachers of other ee teachers of other specialties of other specialties in general educators so now what is the trend or is it towards returning to the homeland ee and what is possible for those who are still hesitating what are they waiting for solutions, obviously. My sister studies at the kharkiv eegymnasium. She had the only german teacher for the whole school. She went abroad and now they cant find a german teacher. So, for example , they really cant, of course there are such problems. But not everyone returns because for times , with the beginning of a fullscale invasion, some people found a new job in certain situations , it is much more remunerative. Of the central authorities on the formation of a personnel pool for people ready to work in the deoccupied territories should be a much better priority, i understand very well that we need to bring back to life a part of kherson oblast, luhansk oblast, donetsk oblast of crimea. To speak today are additional tasks that must be faced by educational institutions, including the necessary needs that we will cover for the retraining of military personnel who have real combat experience and can already work at school today, they talked about it and it wa

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