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ESPRESO July 3, 2024

A word, but im not, well, im not a single deputy who would express a critical opinion about the growing number of pardons this is a person who still times emphasizes knows how to find aa contact with different people and this applies not only to ukraine , it applies to foreign partners. In the arab countries and you in the united states. Therefore, as a contact person, what has he been doing and various things recently, quite a lot and quite actively as contacts. I think that he will be very much in demand. Well, how effective he will be as a minister depends on him, not only on him, but on first of all, mr. Serhii actually mentioned that the mayor has crimean tatars. Well, you and i, if i understood correctly, that one of the arguments in favor of his appointment, many experts say that this appointment it can become a kind of signal and answer to those western partners who from time to time try to promote ukraines renunciation of certain territories in exchange for either the end or membership in nato, and you also mentioned his good relations with the bank, and i will clarify what is said directly about good relations with ermak, the head of the president s office, or these two conditions, so to speak, will strengthen each others positions, including in communication with western partners. Do you think the relationship is good . She is useful, how good they are, she probably knows rosie himself, we are the people with whom you are in contact, i just go by the information i have, this is the first. And secondly , rosie has a normal working relationship as far as i know. She is only with yarmak and with other deputies with whom they are also they are in contact. And how helpful it will be. Time will tell. I think it is important, including from the point of view of legislative initiatives. Legislative initiative and the same goes for the cabinet of ministers of any peoples deputy, but the priority of president ial bills is considered first of all, this is according to the constitution and part of the important initiatives. You with the office well, maybe they will contribute to the fact that these initiatives a will uh lets say it is properly formed but definitely despite the fact that we are growing really professional manager, he is a good communicator, but it is clear that he will have to learn a lot, and to learn in the style of mr. Serhiy, thank you very much for joining the conversation. Thank you. Well, the army of the Russian Federation does not stop trying to capture kupyansk, the Ukrainian Military successfully repulses all attempts of the invaders to break through the defense of the armed forces of ukraine, how ukrainian artillerymen are repelling super on to the kupyan direction further in the material, yehor loginov is ready to work, the shot is absolutely in the maximum range, more we cover the maximum left side to the maximum right side, we work daily and every night constantly, only they do not have time to bring the bull, another assault, the task of the artillerymen is to work as quickly and accurately as possible, and for that in order not to give the russian army the opportunity to reach the ukrainian cops, our birds take off daily, walk where they are, lets say , huddle up, thats where we immediately go to the commander we direct, we start working there, they have a radius of impression of approximately 100200 meters, someone, when we close the flank , we fire 510 shots with them, we can cover the minimal flank along which the enemy approach is moving, when we work ourselves, we need about 2030 minutes of time to completely close the flank, when they are working with the help, it is as if they are brothers in the fat to cover where 30 of the mortars are still covering, then we can quickly cover the flank shot. Lighter and how many projectiles, i dont know for sure, well, its 20 percent lighter than 120, for example, where 30 is manually, well, 105 caliber is not heavy, a person with not even strong physical training easily copes with this weapon, the gunpowder is already placed in this one, in the sleeve in the bus, if you need to hit a closer target we minus them, there are several parameters, and the barrel and sight and depreciation during the shot are immediately included. All these components are combined into one. Last year, we had battles under the raisin for a long time. Much brighter and we were attacked by two army corps. And we, as part of the battalion, received all this for three months without any changes there or any. Even internal ones. If you compare the intensity of work then and now , 10 km by our mouth. There was hope only for three mortars of our 120s. That is, it flies like an insignia, that is, it calculates at night, then directs their cotton wool at us. Shot they choose that such moments are the most favorable conditions for them. They can creep at night. They can creep when there is some fog. They choose such conditions that are not favorable for us and then climb accordingly, and we also need to do our work as quickly as possible to cover our guys at zero during of a night attack on the ukrainian port on the danube , russian chess fell on the territory of romania. Romania saw two detonations of russian kamikaze drones, which they informed their colleagues about. The spokesman of the ministry of Foreign Affairs, oleg nikolenko, published on facebook a photo of the explosion from the other side of the danube, however, later the ministry of defense and the ministry of Foreign Affairs of romania denied the information of the Ukrainian Services about the fall of russian attack drones on the territory of the country the minister of defense and all responsible institutions on the ground monitored in real time the situation caused by the russian drone attacks carried out last night on the infrastructure of the sea port reni, the drone attacks carried out by the Russian Federation did not pose a direct military threat to our National Territory or the territorial waters of romania. Well, after the minister of Foreign Affairs of ukraine stated that he had photo evidence of the fall of drones on the territory of romania. Its the chess that flew in , its absolutely obvious to us what happened, we have photo evidence, were ready to share it, but the final conclusions will be made by the romanian authorities, which actually then not only has to make conclusions, but also to say what it will do about it turkey met in sochi with the president of the Russian Federation vladimirov putin, the meeting took place within the framework of a oneday visit on the agenda were announced, i quote, current regional and global issues as well as turkish russian relations. Renewal of the grain agreement on withdrawal from which moscow announced on july 17 , the turkish media also write that during the meeting with putin in sochi, the turkish president will offer mediation in peace talks between ukraine and the Russian Federation, it is worth noting that this is the first time after the fullscale invasion of russia into ukraine that the head of a nato member state is meeting with putin and is also going to russia for this purpose. I will also add that erdogan flew to sochi after not being able to meet with putin for several weeks putin is harassed in turkey, ghana is on other platforms where he offered to organize talks, we have some points to talk about, we also have something to talk about from the point of view of ensuring security in the region, of course we will not ignore issues related to the crisis in ukraine i know that you intend to raise the issue of the grain agreement, we are open to negotiations regarding this decision, the most important issue that everyone is watching today in the relations between turkey and russia is the grain corridor, everyone is waiting to see what will come of it. I believe that the message that will be delivered during the press conference will be very important especially for less developed african countries. However, after the meeting at the final press conference , putin stated that moscow is not ready to return to the black Sea Grain Initiative which disrupted in july well, putin also voiced a demand to lift sanctions on the access of russian Agricultural Products to european markets, and the president of turkey said that ankara will prepare new proposals for zool to restore the Agreement Regarding grain experts from ukraine evgenia haber , Senior Analyst at the center for research on modern turkey, atlantic consul joins our broadcast p evgenia, we are greetings. Good evening. Good evening. Congratulations. Can we conclude that there are no results of the meeting, or is it possible that they are not announced to us, in your opinion . Something remained behind closed doors. I dont know what happened behind closed doors, because im in odesa, not in sochi, but from the fact that my impression from the press conference with the open part is that nothing could be agreed upon, but it was necessary to create the appearance that there were very serious negotiations and it was necessary to give some result, and we understand that president erdogan, who for a month or more the day before, first said that putin would come to turkey, then agreed that he was already going to russia to sochi, then announced that it would be very, very important for the whole world especially for african countries, the results were not able to go to the press conference to say that i am sorry, but we did not manage to agree on anything because it is unrealistic to move putin from the dead point and he continues to blackmail the world and putin continues to do what he wants regardless of the position of turkey. Therefore, it is necessary it was something to create, talk about the fact that some million tons of grain will be sent there with the support of qatar, talk about the fact that ukraine should be softer in some positions , it is necessary to put pressure on all sides in order to find compromise agreements well, but for me it was some kind of attempt to demonstrate that turkey is making significant diplomatic efforts to restore the grain of this initiative, but after acknowledging the fact that it was not possible to agree on anything, you actually got involved in the fact that ertogan sought this he was also waiting for a meeting with putin in turkey and offered a meeting on the neutral side there at the g20 and for the opening he is a special oun and why is erdogan so interested in this meeting, what is it for him , well, look, the Grain Initiative is turkeys main success since the beginning of the fullscale invasion of russia and this Grain Initiative is the format where turkey plays a key central role and where ortogan can calmly say that he was the only one who was able to unite russia and ukraine in one format first in march 22 in 2018, we remember that there were talks about the fact that turkey forced the delegation of russia and ukraine to sit at the same negotiating table. Accordingly, we improved our position. His services in the form of a mediator in the form of such a facilitator, moderator of all these multilateral formats, that is why the initiative is important for erdogan, and economically it is beneficial for turkey and diplomatically, politically , even more so on the eve of the un general assembly, especially on the eve of meetings with western partners , so it is of great importance to erdogan it will not matter if russia returns to the world , it will not return, it needs to come up with something so that russia would like to return and ukraine would agree to return to it periodically a little pressure on ukraine, more pressure on russia and the search for some kind of format together with the un. We will see it because the initiative itself is important for turkey, if it is important for turkey from an economic and political point of view. I mentioned him a little earlier, it just took place before this meeting. And what do you think , did erdogan talk about this with putin . To what extent can this be considered a kind of signal from the kremlin, or even a demonstration of such disdain, the humiliation of erdogan . Will it be tolerated . Erdogan is ertugan, well at least now he wont tolerate it or wont tolerate it is another question, but now you shouldnt expect any kind of reaction every time Something Like this happens there, the russians stopped a turkish ship or something, and half of it is there of ukrainian experts, if not the majority, said well, now erdogan will call putin to the carpet, now he is there to speak an ultimatum and Say Something to him, i said that this will not happen well, because turkey does not act like that , she can remember it later there in a year in some asymmetric format somewhere to spoil putins mood or not to harm russia, but it will not be headon and it will not be the same now with these shellings. I think that behind closed doors abdugan also spoke about the fact that we need peace near the black sea, we need deescalation there is no need to fire at these ports, he obviously said that. But imagine the situation when the tamerdugan pounded his fist on the table and said , dont you dare, otherwise i dont know if i will block your passage through the er straits or do Something Else there, then it is unlikely that more Pay Attention to what redugan said, we are very grateful to russia for opening its office in Northern Cyprus, we know Northern Cyprus and it is recognized by no one except turkey. The coast is already the second, if it will be , then the second after akkuyu on the mediterranean coast of turkey, energy tourists and so on, that is, turkey has its own interests with russia, so quarrel with putin. I think that erdogan is not in a hurry. Well, these statements after rudans press conference, when he says that ukraine should soften the approach to the extension of the grain agreement, are political statements. For putin, as part of this meeting , will he really somehow pressure erdogan to make some concessions . To kyiv. What do you think . I think that this was first of all said for putin, because before that he talked about the fact that turkey will do everything so that the world hears the whims of russias hotels and turkey voices them at every step. I think that this is a message in to the country, even being here in russia, i am fighting for a Grain Initiative that should be beneficial to ukraine. I think that it will be formulated somewhere like this, and since ukraine is interested in this, and turkey is allegedly helping ukraine in this format, then lets make some concessions there so that we return i am not interested in this initiative, i hope that there will not be any pressure and tougher language regarding them with ukraine, after all, our relations are not at a good enough level, but if ukraine is ready to remove turkey from here will only be happy to accept these compromises if ukraine takes a tough, principled and fair position. Well, of course, we will have to look at the reaction of the turkish partners to what extent they will be ready to listen to her or continue this search somehow with the un and other multilateral formats. At the time when turkey refused the grain agreement on july 17, and i mentioned this , only the Foreign Ministers talked to each other, and as i mentioned, the head of the Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs, fidan, then went to moscow, and lavrov actually told him that any negotiations are possible, but without the participation of ukraine, and what options are left for turkey and russia. If without the participation of ukraine , what can this agreement with qatar be, which you mentioned, how realistic is it now , look at this agreement, it is not an alternative to the Grain Initiative because what is the agreement that they are talking about, at least now, it is 1 million tons of depth , which qatar finances, it supplies russian , it is supplied to turkey. All parties are interested in the savior of the global rooster, but this is, well, so far, this is a onetime story, an initiative that is, well, cool in terms of public diplomacy, but it is not a replacement for the Grain Initiative, because the 3334 million tons that came out under the Grain Initiative cannot be compared to with this million that will be given to african countries, moreover, turkey is not interested in excluding ukraine or russia from this format in the turkish worldview and in turkish interests, including economic ones , to have both ukraine and russia at the same time to work with them in this format, so if it is a onetime thing, it is not serious. If, of course, this will be a trial step and then russia will increase the export of its grain, then immediately we and ukrainian diplomats and highranking officials will have to talk with qatar between turkey once again explaining what is the fault for the cancellation of the Grain Initiative, it is on russia and therefore, accordingly , there is no need to expect steps from ukraine, any other alternatives are simply contrary to any common sense. I am not talking about International Law evgenia but in the efforts to renew the grain agreement, which is important politically and economically what are the risks that ankara will make certain compromises regarding the russian ukrainian war for literally half a minute . The integrity of ukraine is in the interests of turkey itself, but on specific issues, i think that these diplomatic negotiations will continue, i heard, thank you very much for joining the broadcast yevgenia habersha the analyst of the center for the study of modern turkey, the atlantic consul, was in direct contact with us, thank you. Well, in the meantime, the minister of defense Oleksiy Reznikov stated that one day of war costs ukraine 100 Million Dollars, and mainly these are state funds, not volunteer fees, he voiced this in an interview i will inform you when there is a complaint. Why only citizens buy , i will explain. Troops are provided by volunteers, and

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