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ESPRESO July 3, 2024

Well, the defense ministers of france and Great Britain also arrived in kyiv today at the same time, the secretary of state for defense of Great Britain, grand sheps assumed his post at the end of august this year, replacing ben wallos and declaring his intentions to continue to support ukraine, and today is his first visit as the minister of defense of Great Britain to ukraine, and according to the french media, the minister of defense of france Sebastien Lecornu arrived at the head of a delegation of about 20 of the Defense Industry, among them, in particular, a salesperson of the Manufacturers Company the caesar selfpropelled installation, which is in service with the Ukrainian Military. Well, as the af agency reports, the visit, these visits are taking place just before the first forum of Defense Industries, at which ukrainian officials are to meet with representatives of more than 160 Defense Companies from 26 countries around the world. Mykhailo, samus, director of the new Geopolitical Research network. Joined our broadcast, good evening, good evening, and with what, maybe you saw more or read more in the statements that have already been made, what the secretary general of nato came with today, well, and two ministers at the same time, was it planned that way, is it really for this Defense Industries forum . I think the ministers are tangential to the forum as they curate this one direction in the respective countries and therefore indeed the uk. It is accepted when the state supports its companies, although they are supposedly private, but as a rule , the Defense Industry is not only a business, it is really a matter of national security, so the fact that the ministers of defense can accompany delegations, their representatives of the defense business, there is nothing strange here, on the contrary, it demonstrates the systemic nature of the approach, that is, there is clear Political Support here, not only for the form, but also for the direction of the work, especially since, for example, with Great Britain we already have a Framework Agreement was signed regarding cooperation with the systems company, it is such a System Company that covers a huge number of areas of development of defense and industry and provision of the armed forces, it is an international company, and also france, france is very. Ambitious and traditionally very developed country in the field of Defense Industry, the same, the same antiship missiles, the same scalp, stormshadow missiles, why are they very similar, by the way, because the mbda company, it is also french, but there are also such divisions, divisions in Great Britain and in other european countries, so often their products are similar, but with certain details are used by other armed forces, that is, those factories that are located on the territory of these nato countries or the eu, as far as the secretary general of nato is concerned, i think there is also a part of the fact that the Defense Industry is supported, but i think that the arrival of the secretary general, he still aims to conduct detailed negotiations regarding the provision of ukraine for the winter period, we are talking about anti missile weapons, antiaircraft systems, well, clearly there is a whole complex of issues discussed by ukraine and nato regarding security guarantees for ukraine, i think that there is a complete package and a complete, complete understanding between the parties regarding the continuation of cooperation and joint work on the defeat of russia. Mykhailo, the front is here now. We just spoke with military officer oleksandr kurbatov, who is in the zaporizhia region, among the Ukrainian Military command it is often said that the city of tokmak in the zaporizhia region is now the main target of the offensive, this is also written by the western press, the main hope is that takmak can be released by the end of this year, do you see a real prospect . Well, i would say not to liberate tokmak, that is, when we talk about conducting a military operation , in a military operation there are completely different tasks, not just to liberate the territory, of course, these military operations are carried out to liberate the territory, but in the course of the operation, the objectives are achieved, which are necessary for achieving tactical successes, then create conditions for obtaining operational successes, here we are now we observe exactly this, that is, we for the armed forces of ukraine are now breaking through, gnawing through the extremely powerful Defense Structures and lines built by the russian army in our occupied territories, and we are really moving in one of the directions of the tsekmak, of course, there may be others. We know these directions, including on the left bank of the kherson region, but why toks, because if we break through these defensive lines and pass to tokmak, why did i say that it is not necessary to liberate tokmak, this is not a mandatory condition, that that we will achieve those tactical successes, lets bypass the tokmak and start cutting logistical lines, which are very important for russia, if we are talking about the same land corridor and in general, well, for example, the connection between crimea and russian territory and, of course, the grouping of russian troops, which is located on the left bank of the kherson region, which then begins to be in such a very interesting position, that is, the tokmak territory, lets say, the border of tokmak opens an operational space further to melitopol and further on the left bank of the kherson region up to the border with crimea, that is why this direction is really very promising from the point of view of achieving those tactical successes that open up the possibility for us to later have operational success, that is, the success of the entire operation that is currently being implemented, in relation to whether it is possible to, i understand, to your question to from the beginning of that rainy period until the end of the year, i actually said, but by the end i mean , for example, before even the beginning. The so called unfavorable period, when people often ask whether it will stop the ukrainian offensive or not, i think that it really is maybe because right now the Ukrainian Army is gnawing at the second positions of the main line of defense, behind them there are also certain lines of defense and, further fortified in the area of ​​the line and so on, defensive structures, but there are fewer of them there, and therefore there is a chance to. Move faster and that is why the movement to the tokmak or the border of the tokmak can happen faster than what we observed, for example, during july, august and september, so i believe that there is , for example, a chance and a prospect to reach the tokmak area, just before the beginning of the rainy season, and before at the end of the year there is a chance, in principle, that including achieving success in the operation, i. E. Reaching melitopol, creating. Conditions for advancing to the sea of ​​azov and the crimea, and, of course, to begin the destruction of the group that is now located both in the zaporizhia region, the russian group, and on the left bank of the kherson region. We will now return to the front, because there is a report in the western press, i wanted to hear your opinion, but also first, one more piece of news today was quite interesting, russian volunteers from the legion of freedom said that they again entered. Bilgorodskaya region and that there is a battle going on there, we cannot confirm it, we are still waiting today for the inclusion of a representative of the legion, but is there any point in going to belhor at all . Of course, there are, that is, all the more so, after all, we are talking about units, lets say, russian units, which are supposed to liberate russia from the putin regime and create conditions for the transformation of this empire into New Territories that will already meet the definition of a prison of nations, and each, each nation, each nationality, which has been there for several centuries under the oppression of this empire, has a chance to gain freedom, that is why all these actions , they are also carried out in the interests of those nations that live in the prison of peoples, as far as ukrainian interests are concerned, of course it makes sense to constantly carry out military operations in. The territory of the aggressor country, there is always a sense carry out missile strikes, drone strikes, on critical infrastructure, on military infrastructure, on energy infrastructure. On the territory of the russian federation, so that the empire was engaged in the defense of its territory, and they had fewer resources, less time, less opportunities to attack ukrainian territory, in any case attacks, including those of russian units on imperial territory, they create conditions for internal destabilization, creation of languages ​​for internal turbulence within this empire. We are waiting again. I will say that later we expect the inclusion of a representative of the legion, of free russia, and returning to the front, in the pages of the new york times, i know you are always very skeptical of publications on the pages of foreign publications, but there, there it was pointed out that, as of now , both russia and ukraine have faced similar problems at the front, at the positions for which battles are taking place, that they remain significantly fortified, that experienced soldiers are from one. Both sides, soldiers and teams who died at the beginning of the war, they are now replaced by new recruits, who often lack experience, but do you share the vision and are these the same problems that both armies now have, well, look , the fact that the backbone of that army was really destroyed in russia, which was advancing on ukraine, it is true, they have huge problems with junior regional commanders, with officers, because no matter how much they conduct mobilization there, even if it is a million to gain meat, but from that the officers will not appear prepared. In ukraine, i have not seen any signs that we lack experienced officers, experienced sergeants or experienced soldiers, indeed there may be certain issues regarding rotation, there may be certain issues regarding the mobilization process, we know these problems, including from the point of view corruption in the structures that would have this engage in, but now there is an active, active process of digitization of this direction and so on, that is, but this , this article seems to be talking about what again draws us to the conclusion that in fact we must stop fighting already, we must stop already, well, it turns out that we dont have officers in ukraine, we dont have sergeants, we dont have experienced soldiers, its all over, then lets sign some kind of minsk agreement or something, well , again, you turned out to be right, im skeptical of such comparisons, because besides another thing, journalists must understand, there is a country that is an aggressor, and there is a country that defends itself, and therefore, if it is already here, well, i dont know, maybe it was really the author of the article from very high academic bodies, the military, the military in particular, who are engaged in military research, and they abstract. From completely different conditions , i. E. All conditions from real life, they simply take, here they took statistics somewhere, how many russian officers died, how many ukrainian officers, how many sergeants, how many europe prepared for us, including and sergeants and officers on their training grounds, this seems not to be taken into account, that is, i dont know if this author knows that the same nato countries are preparing tens of thousands of military servicemen and officers for us, and all these officers, they didnt just start somewhere, they graduated from military institutes before that, they took part in hostilities, and thats why i ca nt, for example, agree with this article again, well , thats how it turns out that i disagree with foreign publications again, by the way, again this is not the first time, we often hear this, but there it is again mentioned that the ukrainian counteroffensive is slowing down, and they write that this is a slowdown. Poses certain risks for ukraine, in particular, a possible weakening of support from the west, i understand that you do not share this vision either, it is necessary to sign the capitulation, i agree that the author is reaching for this when, when the author writes that we have slowed down, the offensive slowed down, well , i dont know where this author saw a different rate of offensives, during the first world war, the first world war, or perhaps, mykhailo, but let me clarify, maybe . The authors convey the opinion that they and the theses that they hear in the highest government offices, in washington, brussels , berlin, paris and so on, we can allow it, i very often communicate with representatives, including the authorities and experts environment, but literally yesterday i talked with 26 representatives of european countries, different countries, and germany, and france , and even the serbs were there, and even kosovo, which is interesting, and no, well, not a single thought about the need to stop this war, was not, because everyone now understands that it is impossible to stop. A stoppage, the signing of any minsk agreement, a freeze, this means a chance for russia to escape from punishment, firstly, and secondly, to also prepare and try to win the war in ukraine, and secondly , the defeat of ukraine, this means , defeat, this is not only about europe, it is also about the united states, about the global south, that is, all the trends that will take place after the end. Of this war, if ukraine wins, it means that the democratic world has a chance, in the conditions of a new technological one revolution, if not, then we simply sign the capitulation to dictatorial regimes, which in the conditions of the technological revolution will reach a new level, and then, not only in europe, it will be very, very uncomfortable for some experts, journalists who write, write every day that , that we should give up, there is no slowing down of the offensive, just such. No one has had such an offensive since the Second World War and there are no examples with which it can be compared, but what should be the pace here . That is, even textbooks such textbooks there are none, i always emphasize, western generals would never even dare to do such an operation without air superiority. The ukrainian, ukrainian command decided not to give russia a chance, because if we had waited another six months or now, how many years , for the f16, russia would have built it. There are 18 lines of defense, then even with f16, it would be a very difficult task to take out those mobs buried there, who would be sitting there as meat, but everything else, but everything being equal, it would be extremely difficult , now there is a chance to bite through this defense, to create conditions for achievement successes, and just under the conditions of the approach of the f16 in 24 to completely break the spine of the russian army and liberate part of the occupied territories. We consider it necessary, of course, to discuss what the western press writes, it is important, as well, and the 24th year, of course , many things can change in europe and in the united states. I have one last question, a potential agreement between moscow and tehran, they also write about it, do you expect any significant deepening of cooperation between, iran and russia, after october 18, in particular acquisition of iranian missiles by russia. And what can this be, what are the consequences for ukraine itself, because we can assume that these missiles will arrive here, in fact, we are entering a year, even more than a year of turbulence, which is caused primarily by the reelection in in the united states, even these statements, you remember, shoigu said that we have 24 years to solve the issue of svo. In fact, he meant that the task is to prevent. When the russian armies break the backbone and the Ukrainian Army deoccupies a significant part of the occupied territories during the 24th year, why, because they hope to wait for trump, and then try again to put pressure on the united states, on ukraine, on europe, to stop american, european aid to ukraine and try to suppress us, that is, it is very simple and it is very clear that on the field, they cant do anything, they have only one chance, they thought that trump would help them. For example, i believe that if ukraine starts, it will break the backbone of the russian army, and will release it before the arrival trump, even if he wins a significant part of the territory, then trump does not deal with losers, he will immediately help ukraine, and with putin he will even say that he is not familiar with him, that is, this is just such a simple remark, and regarding that, can iran transfer missiles to russia now . I think it is possible, maybe, because russia is persuading iran, now the period is coming when biden seems to be withdrawing from active actions, the Election Campaign is starting, we see what is happening in congress, we see what is happening between the democrats, republicans, including in the field of aid to ukraine, and therefore they are persuading iran to hand over these Ballistic Missiles as well, so that russia would once again have some additional arguments, including in front of trump, in front of europe, to say that, you see, we have hundreds of Ballistic Missiles that can threaten ukraine and not only ukraine, there may also be baltic countries, poland, romania and so on, so they can transfer it, it really is a huge threat, so once again we must help our western partners, the authors of the article ukraine f16, attack, air defense, msai defense, we need to speed up, not look, and not determine what the pace of our offensive is. Look at how they give us f16 and 30 rams tanks, if we were to move 30 tanks on the surface of the earth like this, during the offensive, then i dont know where, at what pace this can be called an offensive. Eight months have passed since the mom

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