Set to our manufacturer and supplier of foreignmade products . Uh, import suppliers are not subject to, for example, product cost limits, so they just submit their price list offer, and if ukraine needs these weapons, we buy them. For ukrainian manufacturers, this price regulation is very rigid and uncomfortable, and this quantity will arrive there. That Companies Receive is not enough to make reinvestments in the latest technology, so it is the main pain there that the imported suppliers have much more resources to invest in the latest developments and these resources later. Another aspect on which it is more difficult for us as the state to influence is the fact that ukrainian producers, they are under fire and they are very often a target for the russians, and that is. Imposes certain security risks, of course, on the teams that manufacture weapons, and it would be nice if the state helped, for example, with underground facilities and somehow made additional subsidies in order for these underground premises to be used, as a means of production, i would also point out the persecution of Law Enforcement agencies, which happens due to the fact that the legislation in ukraine is not always clearcut, for local business there is a risk then. These persecutions, which are not always appropriate. Of course, when we are talking about arms importers to ukraine, they do not have this risk of ambiguity of ukrainian legislation. That is, we can actually claim that this reality, well , relatively speaking, even pushes our National Manufacturers to leave ukraine and create enterprises outside of ukraine, under other brands or under their own brands, but to move away from these national difficulties, which. Relatively speaking , well, significantly complicate the production of defense products, such trends, are there any among your companies that we want to go abroad and create a company there . Unfortunately, such discussions exist, and i would very much like to emphasize to the state authorities that if we do not have a preference for the ukrainian manufacturer, if the orders are not predictable, if the export of surplus products is not opened and. There is a big the risk that a large number of enterprises, if they do not withdraw completely, will at least think about opening subsidiaries abroad, in ukraine, as the state, we do not need it at all, for this to happen, it is very important to preserve this defenseindustrial complex, which we built at such an incredible cost in ukraine, finally, and therefore these three points that i have listed, they are key to ensuring that the enterprises will remain in ukraine. And pay taxes here and, of course, supply weapons directly to our army, panikaterina, i will still ask about the association itself, because linguistically speaking, we mentioned about the purpose of this association, but we still do not called enterprises, i think it is still worth reminding our viewers that among the members of your association there are enterprises that have been engaged in the production of military products for more than 10 or even more years, in particular ukspects systems, skyeton, athlon avia, deviro, that is, those enterprises that have serial models that have already been tested by the war, that have such highly professional teams, bought the equipment, and actually they are the Top Enterprises of the Ukrainian Defense industry, when you talk about the pain of enterprises, it actually means that the biggest and most stable, most powerful manufacturers suffer from the problems that you told our viewers about, so it turns out. Yes, everything is true, and moreover, i will say that until the 22nd year they actively exported their products to the international market, so you can say that these products are competitive on the world stage of western countries. And also some of the developments made by these companies, for example, the shark drone, which i think many ukrainians know, it was developed with the companys own working capital, during the great war, under the time of the risk of shelling with all these legislative blockers that exist, so the industry very often creates the latest designs of weapons that give us an advantage on the front lines in a conflict, if not because of the circumstances that we have. Mrs. Kateryna, but where are the enterprises now . Are taking funds for their primarily new developments, because on the one hand we know that part of the projects you mentioned were collected with volunteer money, part of it was the funds of the companies themselves, the government says that they raised there the profit rate is 25 , and it is quite enough to conduct rnd in certain companies, but what is actually happening with the finances for creating new Solutions Among the leading defenseindustrial companies . This is a big problem, there is a shortage of working capital at all large leading enterprises, and it is difficult to find funds for the latest developments, ill be honest, we are grateful to the funds for the fact that they purchase weapons, it helps a lot at the time of unpredictability of government orders, the funds Save Companies and make those purchases, uh, you mentioned there profit 25 , i want to emphasize that this is ee this 25 , they do not take into account the development. Of the newest types of weapons, i. E. The r d process, i. E. In no way the development of the latest types of weapons, it is not financed by the state, and this is in principle true from one point of view, that the companies themselves really have to invest in it , but simply in the absence of all other conditions, which i listed earlier, that is, the predictability of orders, and the export of these working capital are constantly insufficient. Therefore, companies here invent different ways, sometimes take investments. Sometimes they try to find loans, but none of these ways are clear and easy. You mentioned loans, at a certain stage there was an initiative that loans for Defense Enterprises should have a zero or minimum interest rate, but they talked about it and forgot, that is , i understand that now loans are still too burdensome. To create new projects at the expense of this, because. Defense companies do not have much opportunity to give any guarantees to banks, that is, what are these there must be guarantees if, for example, their Production Capacity is a target for russian missiles, and it is clear that the banks see this as a big risk, and they are, after all, arms manufacturers, which is such an additional, additional reason for the banks to check these companies in more detail, that is why there are some special lending programs that were worked out in the state. They would be really useful to this sector because there are currently no such programs. And another component is the development of the professional composition of creative teams and production teams. As with this in your enterprises, because when you talk to individual directors, everyone talks about the fact that this is actually, well, thats the essence of the problem, to find designers, to find technologists, to find, well, guys or girls who can do the right things there. Other things, these are, well, as they say, significant problems, should the state help here, should some mechanisms be created there, so that this component related to the training of personnel should be solved somehow systematically, so i would definitely emphasize two directions here , this is the first study, that is, we have specialized universities, who could now focus on the latest technologies specifically for the military sphere, it would be very useful, including questions on. The military, how to use the latest weapons, including drones. The second important question is how private companies can protect these talented employees whom they find, because the question of reservation is critical, because now a mobilization company is actively involved, and often these employees, who have very specific knowledge that is difficult to replace, are mobilized to. But it is important to keep these companies and give reservations to the defenseindustrial complex, because this will still ensure our technical superiority on the front line, and it is important that these people remain in enterprises, continue to manufacture ammunition, drones and develop the latest technologies, which give a significant advantage on the front line. Panikaterina, and extreme questions, what is the main goal that your Association Seeks to achieve, well, by the end of this year, what is the most. Priority and important for all enterprises that are united in your structure . We are building a market economy in the field of defense industry, so the key topics for us are to foresee this. Orders and localization of production in ukraine, this is what we are working on the most. Panikaterina, thank you very much for participating in our broadcast. I hope that we will continue to contact, highlight and support all your enterprises that are part of the Technological Forces of ukraine. And i will remind our viewers that it was kateryna mikhalko, executive director of the association of Technological Forces of ukraine. These were the main components associated with. Becoming technological the potential of our Defense Enterprises , the military wants to have Technological Solutions , robotic disembodied platforms, so that they can be used effectively on the battlefield, our industrialists are ready to manufacture and supply them, but they need a systematic attitude from the government and the elimination of those obstacles, which, as we see, all they exist in order for this process to be fast, efficient and multifaceted. So, stay tuned to the espresso channel. 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Congratulations, this is a project of the espresso tv channel and the atp tv channel, together beraber is a project in which we, Khrystyna Yatskiv and Ayder Muzhdabayev and all our esteemed guests, we are talking about the temporarily occupied crimea, we are recalling the actual course of the occupation, and we are trying to understand how the Defense Forces and the ukrainian state are currently acting in order to liberate the peninsula as soon as possible. We welcome you. We will probably start with a reminder that simple and very human dreams about coffee on the embankment in crimea cannot be limited. In general, our thoughts and our wishes to return the peninsula, we need to actively participate in making it happen, actively and constantly, we we can deny ourselves coffee once a day, or once a week, at least to indulge in something that brings us closer to real coffee, crimean coffee, by the way, coffee appeared for the first time on the territory of modern ukraine in crimea and tradition, tradition. They are all crimean , and even the names filjan, filizhanka, have, coffee, jezve, jezve, these are our indigenous names, that is, dont think that it came from turkish, no, its all ours, and on engravings 17, 16, there is a culture of the 18th century, how there were coffee shops in the crimea, and how it all looked, you can inquire, take a walk and see for yourself. That im not telling you the truth here , in short, but we give up coffee whenever possible for good, thanks for the tip, i never forget it, actually yes, our program has one such purpose, charitable, and really, we help with gathering for the night thermal imaging fpv komikadze drones of the 48th crimean separate assault battalion named after noman chelvidzhikhan, armed forces of ukraine. Whose commander is lenur slyamov, general director of the otr tv channel, by the way, lenur recently received the rank of major, and i want to congratulations, i congratulate linor bay, we congratulate and wish you success on the battlefield, and now the guys are on the battlefield, so that everyone understands, and there in the same direction that brings us closer to the crimea , to the sea, to ours, to everything we deserve, well, if we help. To his army not from time to time, but constantly , so now you will see the details on the screens, this is a qr code and a bank card number, the goal is 1. 5 million uah, by the way, there is less than 10 left, lets close this collection on the honor of our fighters, brave, sincere, crimeans, ukrainians, which together liberate our motherland now, well, there is also paypal. It is possible to donate from abroad, if you are watching us from abroad, there are all the details that you can request and contribute, i encourage you to do it, because otherwise, otherwise it does not work, thank you, and we also want to thank everyone who participated to the signature of the petition on awarding the honorary title of hero of ukraine posthumously to the serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, former political prisoner gennadiy afanasyev. The required number of 25,000 votes has been collected, it is reported on the official online representation of the president of ukraine. We will remind that Gena Afanasev was an activist of Public Resistance to the Russian Occupation of crimea, in 2014 he became a political prisoner of the kremlin, spent 767 days in prison, was released in 2016, as a result of the exchange he became one of the leaders of the movement for the release of ukrainian Political Prisoners , participated in international meetings, initiated events, exhibitions, charity evenings on public grounds, held the position of special representative of the ministry of Foreign Affairs of ukraine on issues of the release of prisoners, and to everyone who wants to understand a little more the story of gennady afanasyev, a man who had a difficult path, and of course there were falls along the way, but he always got up, that s the name of the book he wrote, get up after the fall, please get acquainted and thanks again to everyone who joined this initiative. And i remember, christ, when there was an exchange, yes, he already returned for the exchange, right . Yes, yury solyshenko also seems to have returned, yes, we crimeans were collecting a new camera for him to use, which he could earn, he wanted, he wanted to be, to earn money with this, well, thats how his friends, at least, my mother said, and i remember how they collected there, well, a normal amount, so good, for a good camera, he probably had. Would do it if there was no war. Well, now we will talk about the military situation around the temporarily occupied peninsula, well, you understand that the situation on the front line is like a chain reaction, and when something happens related to crimea, it generally affects the situation at the front. And we are happy to welcome you vladyslav seleznyov, a military analyst and exspokesman of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, is on call now. Mr. Vladyslav, congratulations, glory to ukraine. Friends, congratulations and glory to you, with your permission, we will start with the brightest events of this week, well, first of all, the paramilitary ruha also reports that it is moving. Of enemy equipment in the crimea continues and similar concentrations of enemy scrap metal are recorded in dzhankoya and simferopol, we hope that this information will help the Defense Forces to plan the relevant operations, as they actually were brilliantly planned and implemented in the black sea this week. Serhii kotov, this is another loss in the black sea fleet, a patrol ship that was supposed to