The supply of the armed forces under control, that is why the overall picture is so average, that is, there are positive changes, there are some mistakes, well, we believe that this is actually also necessary experience for the agency to work adequately, well that is, as i understood, now the newly created agency has primarily directed its efforts so that there are no hints of corruption there and is ready to sacrifice even certain circumstances to its detriment. If i understand, that is , the terms of the contracts are sufficiently undefined, at the same time, only indicators related to the price of products and fines are determined, if these products are not delivered, that is , a fairly narrow range of interaction, or do we need to add some nuances here and there . Well, i would say yes, indeed, that todays first task, which stands before the agency, there is absolutely no even possible theoretical corruption, they have appropriate in. Which even control communication with suppliers, it is very adequate, very reasonable, on the other hand, they have other kpis there this is a price reduction, as far as i am concerned i understand, supplies to the armed forces of ukraine and delivery terms are already the third kpi, and in fact , it is already sometimes a doubt, a problem, because delivery terms, planning, longterm tenders, so far we do not see such, corruption, lets say so, the union. With all the market there is no possibility at all no, this is a long way forward, a long way forward, but when we talk about the conditions of purchase there, well , of body armor or clothing, can the conditions of purchase be prescribed in such a way that , relatively speaking, the winner will be a prospectively determined company that has one better parameter there compared to others, this parameter is taken as a basis. Potential signing of the contract. Well, for example, it was only a onetime situation that can be evaluated in this way, it was the purchase of active headphones at the end of that year, yes . When was introduced nonprice criterion. In order to give the company an opportunity, headphones manufactured by 3m have a better chance than headphones by sardin. The situation was. It is very controversial, very subjective, because on the other hand, some characteristics, the headphones were better, on the other hand, was this small improvement worth the 20 million that the state overpaid, today such tenders are not held, the situation is being analyzed, today the only criterion can be, it is only one hundred percent compliance with technical conditions and the price. On products, thats why the situation is this year, we only have the same as it was before, and regarding the price of products and profit for companies, or relatively speaking, these conditions and the fixed profit allow enterprises, in particular, which are part of the defense cluster, to develop, to create new models there, to purchase the balance , you said that the balance is being purchased, the question arises, where do the funds for these largescale expansions come from, well, lets. First of all, the situation with the procedures has changed significantly since the 22nd year, yes, that is, we remember the situation , which was for what was it is forbidden for Defense Sector companies to make a profit, there is a specific law of the Verkhovna Rada that completely changed this situation, brought it into the regulatory field, but it only concerned direct contracts, if we are talking about tender procurement, there is no regulation regarding the amount of profit, that is, there is none. Companies really work, in some cases it can work even to zero, if there is a situation where it is necessary to load the company, in some cases the Company Receives a profit, if we talk about expansion, then first of all today. Defense segment is very attractive for the domestic investor, yes, because today many private investors, who previously invested in construction, in the processing of food products, today willingly want to invest in the Defense Sector, because today it has the greatest development, it is the largest market in ukraine and it is quite attractive for private investments, today we also created an Investment Fund within the framework of the cluster, namely a real Investment Fund for the possibility of attracting private investments on the one hand, on the other on the one hand, it is already helping Ukrainian Defense startups to get the necessary funding for further development, it is a bridge between the desire of investors to invest and defense startups to receive, because without the development of the defense segment of the private defense industry, we will never be able to provide our army with everything it needs. Mr. Maksym, you. Said at the beginning that , relatively speaking, there are enterprises there that already manufacture unmanned systems, as i understood as part of the cluster, and the manufacture of ceramic plates for body armor, thats right the most new direction in the format of defenseindustrial of your defenseindustrial cluster, are there any details related to these directions, what is it about, what are the volumes, or just where are we going with these two components . Well, if we talk about drones, this is the rarocar company. Space is an Unmanned Aircraft complex ra7, which will be adopted by the ministry of defense, it is the latest generation shock semitanks with the necessary initiation boards, with translators completely that meet todays needs, industrial capabilities enterprise, today we estimate up to 100,000 units per year, this is for drones, there is still work going on there today on its own ammunition, it will be unified just for this type of drones, for the production of armor plates, this was actually a very controversial situation for us for many years, so that such factories need constant loading for 10 years at a volume of approximately 100,000 slabs per year, that is, we understood that there would not be such a surge in ukraine, so it was as if we hesitated for a very long time, but here it is. Months ago the decision was made because we understand that the Ukrainian Army cannot still depend on supplies from abroad, therefore we must today as much as possible localize the production of anything we use, even if we say that it is a form of body armor equipment , this is, first of all, starting with the manufacture of the fabrics themselves, so as not to transport them from china or turkey, and ending there with armor elements, then possibly with ballistic materials, it all needs to be localized, so it is precisely by drones these are video control communication modules, today the issue of all localization of all components is considered, because we understand the potential problems with china against the background of the fact that america already prohibits the use of drones on its territory, and we understand all the possible risks, therefore the issue of localization on the territory of ukraine, most of what is used today the armed forces are components for. For the further equipping of weapons this is an urgent need, it must be done every day today. Mr. Maxim, after all, on ceramic plates, as it seems, we have well, there are not Many Companies that currently make ceramics for armor protection, that is, your company has really decided to deploy this hightech, expensive production, despite the fact that ceramic body armor costs more there and it is not a fact that the ministry of defense will purchase them. In comparison with the standard there armored janelets with steel plates, well, if we talk about ceramic armor in general, today ukraine has the highest requirements for ceramic armor in the world, it happened in such a very strange way that we took the american standards regarding the durability of the plates, there is a drop from two meters, there is an impact with bullets, well, at the same time, they forgot and recorded the indicators for armor damage. Which were in the ukrainian standard, it is 25 mm, so today we really have the highest requirements for armor plates in the world, the ministry of defense after the situation with the fact that they received samples of the 545 project of the russian corner, which has very high test properties, is today switching to ceramic as much as possible armor, if we talk about the production of ceramic armor there by artisans means, this is actually one situation, it. Cannot give a permanent result, if we talk about industrial production, then there is only one vacuum installation for pressing armor plates, it is 600 thousand euros. Investments, it requires a lot of equipment, but the understanding is that if we say that we have a millionstrong army, it must be equipped with body armor, then such Enterprises Must be built, they must be today, if we talk about serial production, that is, before that at the moment there is only one company in ukraine, that is artem 3000, which i dont know at what technological level , there was no possibility to produce ceramic armor plates, Everything Else was tried. To do it was more of some constant development, and it is simply imported from china of very low quality, if we take into account the needs of the Ukrainian Army, then there is no other way out. We need two, three, or four plants for the production of armor plates in order to provide the Ukrainian Army for the future ten years, well then i will mark the moment for myself, that is, despite the fact that body armor with ceramic plates will be more expensive, the ministry of defense, understanding the requirements of the battlefield. Is really ready to raise the Purchase Price bar and focus on the fact that body armor should be made of ceramics, and this will be the most optimal solution, so it turns out, right . They have already made such decisions, the purchases that went with the letter under the chest that year were carried out only for ceramic armor, at the same time it will increase by at least 1015 thousand, because of the high requirements for ceramic armor, they ordered. Today only ceramic supplies, with the fulfillment of orders , but armor, they had huge problems with the timing , they only buy ceramic armor, from metal armor, the ministry of defense and other units of the Defense Forces of ukraine have already refused today, well, this is news for me and it is actually good news, but is this in the background , foreign suppliers of their bulletproof vests did not become more active, what is the situation with competition between our products and foreign ones, is it now somehow leaning in the direction of. Our manufacturers, well, if we talk about the situation, there is also a very difficult situation, because the dot publicly announces that he needs to buy products as cheaply as possible, that is, he can buy it in ukraine or buy it abroad without any difference, and in order to make it as simple as possible for foreign manufacturers to enter, the terms of the agreement were added to it, which can now go to auctions to enter not only directly the manufacturer company, its conditional representative, that is, either a branch or a branch, today this is already allowed, we see today the interest of foreign manufacturers in the supply, this, well , on the other hand, on the one hand, it encourages competition, yes, and improve the provision of the armed forces of ukraine, on the other hand, there are really such strategic problems that we can develop a foreign supplier instead of a domestic supplier, there are two two. Problems that need to be paid attention to , firstly, it is for tax benefits, if the company is there today, provided it is from france, bulgaria, the forces of ukraine, it will supply them completely without vat for 100 and without duties. If a Ukrainian Company will produce body armor on the territory of ukraine, it will import material, only material for armor, it will be soft ballistic packages and composite elements of ceramic. Without vat, but for Everything Else we will pay internal vat, that is , our domestic price will be a few percent higher, this is one hundred percent, yes, we will lose here compared to a foreign supplier, and foreign suppliers, most of them built their enterprise of this level with state subsidies , grants, they do not have the burden today on loans and investment obligations, what is in our suppliers, so for internal the situation of the supplier is quite unpleasant , quite critical , well, it is impossible to do something here, because if we say the same for localization, we can protect ourselves from turkey or china, protect ourselves from european manufacturers, we cannot at all, so Ukrainian Companies we need to find some other mechanisms in order to survive and develop, we need to wait for state subsidies, guarantees, benefits, preferential loans, we understand that today is a war, that is, we need to do something on our own. To find something and find it on the way, like us can compete more effectively with companies that have more advantages than us, well, you see such ways, relatively speaking, you have a feeling that you can fight there with the germans, the french in our market, even though potentially their the possibilities are bigger and wider there, you know, that is, we have no other option, yes, that is, we have no option not to fight, just as our army has no option not to fight there, that is, we. Must ensure the development of ukrainian today orom, i. E. Supply products, that is, we simply have no other way out, we need to find mechanisms, we need to attract private investments. It is necessary to understand how we, we can reduce the cost of the final, what we can automate, that is , there is an advantage of the cost of labor in principle, it is cheaper here today than abroad, we need to look for internal advantages to win at the expense of this. Mr. Maxim, thank you very much for the inclusion, for the work you do for our armed forces, you can count on our informational support, to fight with foreign suppliers and your competitors. I would like to remind our viewers that it was maksym plekhov, the chairman of the board of the Defense Sector enterprise lviv defense cluster, which, as we can see, is now developing into a number of technological components, in particular the appearance of an enterprise that will prepare ceramic armor for bulletproof vests, this is actually, well, quite top news , and the main thing is that it really becomes the basis for such reequipment of personal protective equipment, which is used today by our military on the battlefield, next, we will talk about computer products , which the military itself characterizes as follows we are being strangled by the enemy, your Radio Stations are working, that is, there really are domestic tactical level Radio Stations that can provide reliable communication between soldiers on the battlefield in conditions where the enemy makes the most of means of radioelectronic warfare, and this project a month ago gathered such venture support in the amount of 500 thousand do. From ukrainian and Foreign Investors who are ready for this company to develop and receive new capacities to create more more modern means of communication, about all the details related to this Chimera Company after the advertising information block. Vasyl zimas Big Broadcast , two hours of airtime, two hours of your time, two hours to learn about the war and what the world is like, two hours to keep up with Economic News and sports news, two hours in the company of your favorite presenters, presenters who to many people, they have become similar. As well as distinguished guests of the studio the events of the day in two hours, vasyl zimas Big Broadcast, a project for smart and caring people, in the evening on espresso. We continue our war and weapons program, and we will continue to talk about the products of the Chimera Company. Last year, this company was recognized by the ministry of statistics as the number one military startup in ukraine, and this year it, this company, received such significant Financial Support from both ukrainian and. Them Venture Investors that, i repeat, such an unexpected situation is enough for the Ukrainian Defense market. And in fact this company, well, in my opinion, creates sufficiently technological products, i am glad that both the espresso channel and defense express contacted with the representatives of the company and talked about this product even before this company gained such, well, allukrainian recognition, and now Oleksiy Oliynyk is joining us. Representative of the hemera company, mr. Oleksiy, welcome to the espresso channel, glad to see and hear. Now we are looking for a Shooting Point so that we can talk calmly and comfortably, this is exactly how it happens in combat conditions, when communication is the main thing, and the rest is actually tangential and derivative. Mr. Oleksiy, welcome to the spresso channel, glad to see you. And hear, would like to you told our viewers a little about the advantages of the chimera Radio Station, because of course the military knows, the experts there know, but still it has been more than two years that the product has been on the market, it has definitely transformed, so what benefits, how are chimera radios currently being used by our military at what levels, what are the results, what are the reviews . Well, two years, probably not yet passed, somewhere around two years, it will soon be two years that we have been working, we started with a small Radio Station of the unit, but so small soldiers Radio Stations. Which were created specifically for reconnaissance groups, for sniper groups, for special operations forces. These Radio Stations turned out to be quite, quite convenient and very convenient for people, they began to be used