There is a need to do something independently find something and find in the way how we can compete more effectively with companies that have more advantages than us, well, you see such ways, relatively speaking, you have the feeling that you can fight there with the germans, the french in our market, even though their opportunities there are potentially greater and wider, you you know, that is, we have no other option, yes, that is, we have no option not to fight, just as our army does not have the opportunity not to fight there, that is, we must ensure the development of the Ukrainian Border today, that is, the supply of products , that is, we simply have no other way out, we need to look for mechanisms , we need to attract private investments, we need to understand how we can make the end products cheaper, what we can automate, that is , there is a slight advantage in the labor force, it is cheaper here today than abroad. You need to look for internal advantages at the expense of this to win. Mr. Maxim, thank you very much for the inclusion, for the work you do for our armed forces, you can count on our Information Support to fight against foreign suppliers and your competitors. And i will remind our viewers that it was maksym plekhov, the chairman of the board of the Defense Sector enterprise lviv defense cluster, which is currently developing a number of technological components, in particular the appearance of an enterprise that will prepare ceramic armor for body armor. This is actually, well, quite top news, and the main thing is that it really becomes the basis for such a reequipment of the personal protective equipment that our soldiers use on the battlefield today, then we will talk about the Company Whose products we ourselves the military describes it as follows we are being suffocated by the enemy, your Radio Stations are working, that is, there really are domestic tactical level Radio Stations that can provide reliable communication. Combat between fighters on the battlefield in conditions when the enemy makes maximum use of radioelectronic warfare, and this project a month ago collected venture support in the amount of 500,000 from ukrainian and Foreign Investors who are ready for this company to develop and acquire new capacities for creating even more modern means of communication about all the Details Associated with this chimera company. After the advertising and information block. 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Market and in fact, this company, well, in my opinion, creates sufficiently technological products, i am glad that both kanal espresso and defense express contacted representatives of the company and talked about this products even before this company gained such, well, allukrainian recognition, and now we are joined by oleksiy oliynyk, representative of the hemera company, mr. Oleksiy, welcome to the espresso channel, glad to see and hear you. Now we are looking for a Shooting Point so that we can talk calmly and conveniently, this is exactly how it happens in combat conditions, when communication is the main thing, and the rest is actually tangential and derivative. Mr. Oleksiy, welcome to the spresso channel, glad to see and hear, i would like you to tell our viewers a little about what advantages of the companys Radio Station. Mayor , because, of course, the military knows, the specialists there know , but after all, more than two years have passed since the product has been on the market, it has definitely transformed, so what are the advantages, how is the Radio Station currently used by our military at what levels, what are the results , what are the reviews . Well, two years, probably not yet passed, somewhere around two years, it will soon be two years that we have been working, we started with. A small Radio Station of the unit, that is , well, small Radio Stations of the soldier, which were created specifically for reconnaissance groups, for sniper groups, for special operations forces. These Radio Stations turned out to be quite, quite convenient and very convenient for people, they began to be used in many types of troops. The main of the possibilities they provide, they are iki to suppression, they are very difficult to detect by enemy radio reconnaissance. And at the same time, they are very, very budgetfriendly and close to the user, that is, they can be easily programmed, any civilian can easily work with them, for this you do not need to be some kind of specialist, well if a military man, who can study for a long time, this is such a very, very resourceful gadget, he got, he got, well, if all the possibilities of military communication, radios jump on frequencies, sanctions are difficult to suppress, they have completely encrypted communication and the enemy it is very difficult to do something against it. But over these almost two years, the product has changed, as i understand it, they started there from the tactical level, and in our previous conversation you hinted to me that the military is not really using the full potential of these Radio Stations that are installed there, although in fact, you made them as usable as possible, so that they are comfortable. And did not require special Technical Knowledge from our military, what do they need to know then, what are the additional advantages of these Communication Systems of yours . Now we are moving as much as possible in the direction of the network, now we are moving in the direction of creating a proper protected network, which is meant, it is conditional, now they say there is a Network Centric war ee. As, for example, a mortar calculation is working there now, he is advancing to a position, he needs to receive some the information that happens at the same time, i know when the calculation is instantaneous. Drags starlink with it, its wrong, its completely , if it is, starlink allows you to watch there in hd youtube quality, its not needed exactly where its needed, heres one of our crazy ideas at the moment, we give access to the internet through our Radio Stations, mobile groups, that is , in order to work out the combat task in an innovative calculation, you need to have a new machine, a tablet with you there, move forward to the position, see. Everything they need, including there weather forecast, all they get is to work out their combat mission, get together and get back in 2 seconds, and all this is a secure connection, and for this you dont need a sperlik, but now if one of the crazy ideas, we give a mobile unit access to the internet through their radios, in fact its not so much the internet as access to a secure, correct network, a unit, and through that network they have access to the system. On the battlefield, under battlefield management systems, they can carry out all their tasks very well quickly, coolly, without making a single voice call, they see everything on the tablet screen, during the assault the commander can advance, he sees where his fighters are located somewhere in some district buildings, because now its happening like this, there guys, if you see, we we see a couple of trees there, but between those couple of trees you have an enemy, this should not happen, the commander must see. Where his fighters are, and he simply must have a clear command, there 20 m to the left, 5 m to the right, move forward, do something, minimal voice traffic, maximum exchange information, we are now fully moving and all the forces of the team are now going in this direction, that is, in fact, you are approaching the shelter or already close to the creation of a tactical battlefield control system, yes, where your Radio Stations are the basis, and it can be added to it, lets say this, the other. There is equipment, ala there is kombat or nettle, that is, whether or not even nettle and kombat are not needed, all this can be done on the basis of your Radio Stations, no, no, nettle kombat is definitely needed, it is the same software , but for this software, the correct transport level must be protected, so we provide this transport for the information of the same nettle and the same kombat, but the kombat is already working, the nettle is currently working on integration, but in fact all this rests on the correct protected communication line, well no the lines are accurate. The Communication System, we are moving precisely in the Communication System, we will not go into the control software itself, of course, we do not need it, they are engaged in this, and those people who develop for a very long time in this system, we cannot to cover, but we now have a Communication System we make it correct, normal, good, and we can improve it as much as we can, it is not as much as a Radio Station, a Radio Station is only a small part of this Communication System, the main thing is still the exchange of information, a good, correct, fast, secure exchange of information, that is, you will ensure. Just a secure communication channel that will allow the groups to operate safely because they will be invisible when they are working, and it will actually, well, allow to expand the spectrum of use of such groups, because your Radio Station is much cheaper than haris, because, as i understand, such opportunities are provided only by the haris Radio Station, which costs tens of thousands there for one product, so everything is correct, or starling, well, starling is not exactly a military story, now we are working on that. If someone else can do the same, we agree to integrate there with anyone, well , except for the moscarites, i will take a step back, because i had questions before. Rom standard how much do the radios cost where can i buy when do we order when do we get them how about that to say, this is now the current version of the first, well, the first generation of the Radio Station, it is now massproduced, you can get them, well , you can order it from us, of course, without any questions, we also give the contacts of some foundations that constantly cooperate with us, which on an ongoing basis collect money and provide the fighters with the first stations. They, well, everyone actually knows it, sees it, and now the next version is coming to us, just this version is already new , it has a lot of possibilities, it is already as close as possible to khalis, up to the fact that it will be distributed via the internet at the base point, well, thats all that is needed, it would be in the mode of everything being developed, now we are already accepting preorders for them, ordinary stations are released there for a period of one or two days. And the new stations will be passed by the deadline in two months, what is the status of these Radio Stations in relation to our communications management, they are certified, i dont know, they are codified there, what is this process now . Well, the entry of these Radio Stations into the armed forces, because we have turkish ones there Radio Stations, american Radio Stations , everything seems to have passed the test there, as with your initiatives, this is a very interesting question, from the point of view of the state, they do not exist now, the first Radio Stations do not exist at all, apparently, this is how we are now resuming contact with Oleksiy Olinnyk , this is one of the active. Participants in the chimera project this is the creation of protected tactical Radio Stations, which are primarily used there by snipers, special operations forces, fighters on the front line, now we resume our conversation, mr. Oleksiy, there continue your opinion, er, the second type of Radio Station has been submitted for all the documents have been submitted, they are now looking and we are close to getting a permit for operation and further progressing to the installation of arms to the borders. And these Radio Stations, if they already meet many correct official standards, i will not disclose the details now, but all these tests that are currently being carried out satisfy me, that is, in fact , some positive dynamics really took place in relations with the military, and when the product has good technical parameters, after all the military is beginning to contribute to the fact that, as soon as possible, i will reach the battle order, i hope that this is so, yes, yes, yes. The most help we have right now is from the military, well, the biggest one is, lets say, not returns, its everything that is connected with state bodies, well, its traditional, but what about the situation with production itself, are there opportunities, because i remember yatayu, in the first interviews you said that we are ready to outsource the supply of Radio Stations, there are some other works to increase the number of manufactured Radio Stations, what is that now or is there already at the base, well. There is more opportunity to manufacture more such Radio Stations, that s right, thats what happened, we outsourced everything as much as possible, we have several contractors who work on the production of our Radio Stations, we made decentralized production, in our there are no problems with that, and well, it was actually created, well, from the point of view of such protection, that they do not gather in one place, if necessary , we have backup sites there, backup options of contractors who can manufacture it. Er, if needed we can to quickly deploy the production of these products in europe, well, in the nearest europe, it is more likely that where poland and the baltic states, and both there and there there will be opportunities to deploy production precisely from the point of view of the fact that the project must be decentralized, maximally protected from there any risks, in the event that somewhere, well, god forbid, it flew somewhere, we still have the opportunity to continue, it will just be some temporary losses, eh, thats how we build our business now, not only in this way. And yet i will return to the question of money, because i would i would have kept quiet, but forps wrote , yes, that is, in fact, that the lviv venture fund provided you with such, well, substantial financing in the amount of 500 thousand dollars in order for this project of yours to develop, and there even joined, it seems, french investors there, which are also not quite unusual, of course, where will the money go, what about you . How do you plan to use them so that investors are satisfied with the new result and the quality of your product, where will it go . So the very first thing it was done for, it is very important for the project to move at all quickly, before, well before i wont say exactly when, we had problems with the fact that, for example, we have some financing, and i need to understand for myself whether we are n