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ESPRESO July 4, 2024

We also see official russian sociology there, including those sociologists like the levada center, who can supposedly be trusted and who can be oriented plus or minus, and is there any zero support for putin and his high rating has always been maintained and it is probably important for putin himself to do everything within the framework of the law and to confirm it not just visually that the crowds will vote but what is really important for him to understand that this support there is, well, isnt she there, the majority trusts , the majority reelects him again and again, this one, well, you can say there, monarch, he will declare himself, and maybe its not necessary, and maybe its not necessary, because for him again there are 4 they will vote for 5 years, and he has this support, he has hers feels, and he also has such legitimacy for these certain actions, he is quite confident, and when we saw him not sure about this, it was again during the preelection period. In my opinion, absolutely the interview that we saw this week, because there was a lot of talk specifically about russian inside there, some beautiful things are so fantastic, when you listen to it and understand that its about russia, well, it sounds unrealistic, but nevertheless , it is designed for the internal audience, and it probably has such an effect, such a parallel reality in which they live, and probably suits them, thats why i dont think that we will see any superglobal protests, oleksia, thats what. That what we saw and these green filling of ballots and these urns and some individual pickets, protests, it is very reminiscent of what used to be during the soviet union, there were loners who went out there and protested against something, do you think there is no such concentrated protest in russia . Movement, at least in some part of russia, who would come out and say that putin is gone, unfortunately, no, and this concerns, especially, it is a pity, it is a pity that this also applies to the socalled national formations, which actually could, they have at least the motive of selfpreservation, which, in fact, now russia is destroying these peoples, but we do not see a great potential, well, there is a little. They came out in bashkiria, in bashkartistan, a Little Something is happening in ingushetia or there were some protests in dagestan, but they are not massive, unfortunately, now, but again, well, in such regimes as the russian one, in fact, they fail at all not at the elections, well, that is, ceausescu did not lose any election, he won with a huge. Great result , but it didnt help him, and actually, even we can remember that yanukovych won the last election, so to speak, he was removed from power in a completely different, different way, so it seems to me that just it is obvious that the fate of this regime will be decided not at the elections, especially not at the simulation of elections, although of course any attempts should be welcomed. To somehow fix ones position, express a protest, even individually, you know, i remember i remember those times when we also went outside alone, but again, drop by drop, it leads to something, and the main thing is that people themselves feel responsible for what they, they do, and i think that this is important, because sooner or later this regime will not return, the question will be, what will happen next . With russia or instead of russia . By the way, i will add very briefly, from this same interview again, there is dmitry kiselyov, he tells putin that the nazi regimes do not dissolve by themselves, they. Arise in the case of military, specifically military , he is said, yes, of military defeat, they did not say this about themselves, but it is understandable, because everything is absolutely there, but they understand this very logic, and they can call a nation state there and a fascist regime, ukrainian, any other, but anyway , they understand the very logic and the very meaning and rules of the game, and it is very important that they voice it, i think, thank you. Dear tv viewers, i would like to remind you that today we have Oleksiy Mustafin and Kateryna Nekrecha on the air, Kateryna Nekrecha, Radio Liberty journalist, Oleksiy Mustafin, journalist, media manager, historian. During this broadcast , we are conducting a survey, we are asking you whether the west will dare to send its troops to ukraine. So, if you watch us on youtube, vote yes, no, or write your comment below this video. If you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and. Vote if you think the west would dare to send troops to ukraine, 0800 211 381, no 0. 800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote , at the end of the program we will compare the results of this vote, well , to ukrainian realities, to ukrainian politics, this week the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine gathered very briefly for its meeting, after which peoples deputy of ukraine yaroslav. Stated that the Verkhovna Rada is approaching a parliamentary crisis due to the inability of monopolies to make important decisions. Lets listen to what Yaroslav Zheleznyak said. It is not yet clear to say that this is a real crisis, but it is obvious that the parliament began to malfunction very often, it is obvious that the majority of men have a huge problem with votes, it is obvious that without. Mk, as the partners call them, in the people we call them opzzh, they will not be able to pass any law, it is obvious that last time the meeting was canceled not because it was necessary to make some report for the senate, it is some kind of stupidity that to be honest, it is not clear why they came up with it, or someone went there to inspect something there, no, because there were no votes, but Yaroslav Zheleznyak thinks that we are so. On the threshold of a parliamentary crisis, kateryna, what do you think, this is a parliamentary crisis this means the end of mono majority, and accordingly, reformatting of all central authorities, including the government, because this same majority, it is formed by the servants of the people, and in the 19th year they do not need anyone at all, because they created their own government, the second Prime Minister has already slipped away, four years in office, a record, it seems to me, Yulia Tymoshenko was the Prime Minister twice, the general term is Something Like this, and here the question is, what do they do, does this mean that they have to share with the authorities, and is there even a concept of a parliamentary crisis or an operation with this concept inappropriate during wartime . Importantly to note that yaroslav, as an opposition deputy , also spoke about this to mr. Solomiya bobrovska on my broadcast. Venislavskyi fedor, we asked about this on the air, that there is no such definition, now that the parliamentary crisis is already on the threshold, yes , solomiya also said this, and it is important to understand what options we have, we cannot now in ukraine hold elections, the Verkhovna Rada is a legitimate body elected by the people, and we have a parliamentarypresident ial republic according to the constitution, and the situation is extremely difficult, and the question is whether will be able. And will that body or those people who led to this want to correct what Yaroslav Zheleznyak is talking about, there are other deputies, some of my sources, those who are publicly progovernment deputies with a mono majority, they are not on the air they talk about it and are generally very careful in their statements, thats understandable, but what everyone in ukraine really understands is that there are a lot of decisions, and yaroslav generally says that even the agenda of the Verkhovna Rada, it. Is formed precisely in the president s office and descends as a deputy, under the following conditions, especially during the last year, the deputies of the monomajority, they felt someone, well, their uselessness, someone was simply fed up that their interests were not taken into account, some interests that, in principle, should not be taken into account, but nevertheless people there got used to it, someone, well, simply feels that he is not heard and that the deputies who can rationally offer something are not heard, but they are completely ignored, and the situation. Is such that it certainly cannot be called a riot there, but the fact that there is a certain resistance there or unwillingness to work, he is also what could be the reasons for this. Mr. Zheleznyak wrote a column about it there, he made such an analysis and named these reasons, and well , for example, my sources there told me that if the deputies do not take the initiative and do nothing, then they said what to do, and with on the other hand, mr. Yaroslav writes that they are knocking on the head so much for the initiative that it is better not to do anything, and the main thing is whether they will hear this, or feel this moment, that maybe. A parliamentary crisis is possible right in the president s office, and whether they will somehow react to it and whether they will start to interact in a different way, but we have to look at it now, because there is no other option for the Verkhovna Rada, there is absolutely no alternative, while we are under martial law and elections cannot be held, well , elections cannot be held, and the Verkhovna Rada remains in power , just a matter of reformatting the majority and what will happen in the Verkhovna Rada. Oleksiy, we witnessed more than one parliamentary meeting. Crisis in ukraine, that is, can what Yaroslav Zheleznyak is talking about be considered a prologue to the parliamentary crisis, and is it similar to those crisis, which we witnessed earlier, well, if we talk about formal things, then i want to remind you that the current Verkhovna Rada was elected in the elections that were announced after, well, that is, on the basis of something that did not exist in the previous parliament. The majority, uh, so, obviously, there will always be a reason to say that if there is no majority here, then it is a crisis. On the other hand, well, deputies can mention that they, in principle , we do not have an imperative mandate, they represent voters and can unite as they wish. Actually, we remember the situation, er, during the revolution, when the Parliament Still found strength and. And even when president yanukovych ran away to gather and take responsibility, the question is whether these deputies will want to take responsibility, but again after all, they were elected precisely so that they would take, even according to the constitution , it is not the president of the Verkhovna Rada who speaks on behalf of the people of ukraine, on the other hand, we remember, when you know, we are often given the example of churchill, well. Of course, everyone with its implication, but let me remind you that cherchel came to power completely not as a result of the elections, and as a result of purely internal mechanisms in the parliament itself, and he had a working majority, so to speak, well, that is, it was nonparty, for most of the second world war, and when the war was almost over, he lost the elections in general, therefore, the question is that. If the deputies feel responsible, they should and feel that there is a crisis, they should find some way out on their own, and actually this is what they should wish for, because simply escaping responsibility by simply running away, well, it will not work if someone will try to do that then there will be very serious consequences for the country and for these deputies themselves, it is very interesting and very fast that a few weeks. Thats why there was a meeting of the servant of the people faction with the president , and it was as if these concerns should be voiced there, and even the fact, a moment that annoys all deputies, that they are not allowed to go abroad, for example, that they are simply interrupted by some International Trips there and so on , and this opportunity to ask these critical questions, judging by everything, as they say, what was there, well, it was not there at all, that is, even officially those deputies from the servant who told stories, reported about this meeting, they did not say anything about these critical moments, it also passed a lot. Says, well, but, but we are not talking about, well, not only the servants of the people, but also about the entire parliament in general, since they make a collegial decision, well, that is, everyone votes, this is a decision of the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine, and not only the servants of the people, well, here the question is whether zelensky is ready to share, well , power, i dont know if it is appropriate to say during the war, to share power, but thats how it is it turns out that if we are talking about reformatting the majority, then we are talking about. We are talking about reformatting the government, if we are talking about reformatting the government, and it is about quotas of some political forces, are they ready to tolerate representatives of the homeland, european solidarity, voice, that is the question in this, or her duet, well, you know, they are ready to tolerate, they can tolerate everyone else, well , op, they simply tolerate not only in the Verkhovna Rada, oleksia, but also in all local bodies. There are more than 400 members of the local council, i looked at the statistics, in 2020 was elected to all levels of government, and this is also a very open question, by the way. And why are these people in power at all, well, it means that they were repainted in local authorities, the party is banned, but there are deputies, thats also a question, you, by the way, as a person who has a good understanding of the construction and functioning of the party , no matter what you say, Party Members sit in the Verkhovna Rada of the opz, Party Members sit in local authorities, here they pass laws, there they divide local budgets and allocate land budgets. Plots, thats the question, and a why is this happening . And because no other decision has been made, well, you cant say go for a walk, or, i dont know, look for another job there, unless some decision has been made, some decision regarding the termination of the powers of these deputies was adopted, no, it was not adopted, they should work accordingly, i am talking about something else, that if. No decisions are made regarding the opz, then what are the problems with the perception of deputies from other factions, why they, no, we cannot unite with them in any way, because they represent other political forces, well, that i mean i dont understand this logic. Thank you, literally 30 seconds, katerina, how do you think this crisis, or the prologue to the crisis , will end, from a journalistic point of view it is interesting to watch these. Processes, but i think that it would be good for the citizens of ukraine and for the country as a whole if it ended with the deputies feeling their authority and their place here, and finally the Verkhovna Rada would work, probably as it should. Thank you, kateryna nekrech and Oleksiy Mustafin were guests of our program today. I thank my colleagues for their participation in the program. During the program, we conducted a survey, asking you whether the west would dare to send its troops to ukraine. 44 yes, 56, no, these are the results of a tv poll, friends, we put an end to our program, i say goodbye to you until monday at 8 00 pm, i wish you a good weekend, bye, take care of yourself and your loved ones, watch this week in the collaborators program, the rashistkherson regional duma, who are they, the nondeputies from the kremlin. We, personally, have been waiting for russia for 30 years. But how do traitors wash the bridges of schoolchildren . On only development awaits the kherson region. Greetings, im Olena Kononenko and this is a Collaborator Program about traitors who, following the call of their hearts and purses, went to serve the rashi occupiers. Last fall, russia held socalled elections in the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine, in particular in the kherson region. As a result, the socalled Kherson Oblast was formed. Duma, which included 36 deputies. The largest number of fake elected officials came from the united russia party, 28 of them. And then there were already a few from the ldpr, just russia, communist party of the Russian Federation and just russia for truth. The main task of this racist illegitimate body is to establish life in the region according to the laws of the Russian Federation. I have already told you about some who decided to fall to the social bottom and received a mandate from the kremlin. Todays issue is a continuation of the acquaintance with the newly elected fake russian officials. At the first meeting of the socalled kherson regional duma , deputy deputies elected their head. She became 57yearold tomilina tetyana yuriivna. Before to become a collaborator, she was a candidate for mayor of kherson in 2015 and director of the mishukov academic lyceum at kherson state university. The war of ukrainians against ukrainians is dear to me, personally i am fed up with pseudopatriotism, and i am also very fed up with politics for the sake of money and vanity. I am going to the mayor of kherson to engage in politics for the people and for development. Please help me. At the debate of the mayoral candidates, tomilina said at the time that the americans had equipped a biolaboratory at the site of the citys senepidem station. Works at kherson secret laboratory. Dangerous infections in the center of the city, the contract between the Us Department of defense and the ministry of health of ukraine exists, no one knows about it. The adequacy of the director of

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