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ESPRESO July 3, 2024

The fighting for vovchansk continues, people are being evacuated from the area under constant shelling, the authorities are again accused of not building. Rubble in the destroyed entrance of the house, so what exploded there . This is svoboda ranok, my name is kateryna nekrecha, and we are starting. And lets start with the situation on the battlefield in kharkiv oblast, the russian army has a tactical success, battles are being fought for the city of vovchansk, this is announced in the ukrainian general staff, and according to the ukrainian side, the military. Used significant forces to launch an attack on the city in the composition of up to five battalions, that the russian Army Continues to advance to vovchansk and tries to gain a foothold on the outskirts for further entry into the city, the analysts of the deep state project also report. In the meantime, the Russian Ministry of defense writes that the Russian Military advanced deep into the Ukrainian Defense and captured the settlements of gatishche, krasne, morokhovets and oliinikovo, and here are the analysts. This information is confirmed by the villages marked in red on the map, that is, they are occupied. The ukrainian general staff is talking only about assaults in this direction. In the meantime , oleksandr yakuvets, the head of the administration of the state special service of transport, said on the air of the telethon that fortification equipment of Defense Structures in the Kharkiv Region is carried out in several directions. He says that the most prepared fortification lines are those located at a certain distance from. Border and front line. Information about the possibility of equipping threestory concrete structures under the influence of enemy fire. To put it mildly, this is absurd. This devalues ​​the efforts made today by military personnel of engineering units and civilian personnel. And first of all, those losses are devalued civilian personnel and personnel of units that equip defensive lines, and carry out under constant fire of the enemy, risking their lives. This is a statement. Of the state special transport service appeared against the background of the authorities accusations of the lack of fortifications in this direction, for example, military officer Denys Yaroslavskyi wrote on facebook, quote the first line of fortification was simply not there, and there were simply no mines, the enemy freely entered the gray zone along the entire border line, which in principle should not be gray. End quotes the deputy head of the Kharkiv Regional military administration, Roman Semenukha , called on the networks not to spread disinformation, noted that the Ukrainian Defense forces are currently occupying fortifications built by the forces of the regional administration. Meanwhile , evacuation is taking place from vovchansk and okolitsi due to increased fighting and shelling. Only yesterday, 1,600 people were taken from the vovchan direction, so they say in ova, and over the last three days, more than 5,500 people were taken from there. It still remains in vavchansk itself. Hope you will come back, of course, what are they doing here, everyone hopes. Yes, they are climbing to rob us, oh, i ask the waterman, why did you come, well, everything goes for money, even a student said for money, nothing, nothing, lets sit down, yes, ohohoh, yes, hold me sew, hold, shes on her feet, im holding, i m holding, dont be afraid, sit down, sit down, sit down, dont be afraid, oh, oh, thank you, turn around, phone, documents, and. Are you staying . Yes, what . And why dont you go . And who will i go to . My dear i have no one, my legs dont want to walk alone i have see how i flash this is such a son. Nowhere to go, no one. Thats how they help everyone in kharkiv. And everyone, everyone, let them help, let god help them all, let them help. Yes, its not scary to stay, here already. My friends are by my side, well, let them go, so as not to kill them, son, even if they kill there, even if they kill here, then i will know what i think, and thats it, there is no one, everyone scattered, they left me alone like an orphan, and they did it, side with them, christ with them, god forbid, forbid. These shots were shot by maryankushnir, a correspondent of radio svoboda. Maryan, i congratulate you, thank you joined our broadcast. Congratulations. Maryan, tell me where youve been, what youve seen, what the situation is like and how many people really want to leave vovchansk now, and is it possible to evacuate everyone who wants to . Well, first of all vovchansk very much. A tense situation, because when we were there, the russian army was already storming the outskirts of the settlement, we came to one of the houses where there was a man or a woman who had to be evacuated, we simply could not get to this house, because right next to this house there was already shells burst, and the russian army tried to attack the infantry of the armed forces of ukraine, they fired back there, and we had to leave there, and there are a lot of such areas there, because. The russian army has already reached the city of vovchansk, you could even hear a shooting battle in the middle of the city, but in the end, what is the situation there . It was not possible to see, because it was very dangerous, the russian army uses such a kind of barrage of fire there, and therefore it exposes to danger, in particular, the police and volunteers who are engaged in the evacuation of civilians, civilians, so many people want to leave, because all of them have already. Been in the occupation in 2022, and understand perfectly well what can be expected of them, and this is such a picture, when the majority wants to leave, of course there are people who do not want to leave, and these are mostly elderly people , who explain that these are their homes, they dont know where they should go next, well , what will happen, such a minority, in the majority , people leave with children, take their pets with them, and when we left, we even took them with us pet. Poultry in the car, i. E. They all leave and understand, that if they do not take it with them, then it will be destroyed, and it will be destroyed because the russian army does not choose a target in vovchansk, but destroys the city completely, that is, when we were there, we saw, i just saw how the shells fell randomly in any what a house, where there are not even soldiers there, there are no living people there at all, and they are destroying everything, everything, everything in a row. Thats why people want to leave there, but its extremely risky now, because the offensive is intensifying, and the use of artillery, including fpv drones, is very active there. Maryan, but about that those people who remained and in general before the evacuation, whether it has been happening for a long time, whether it was possible to somehow get more people out the day before, that the people themselves tell why they waited until this moment, it seems in the material or on the public, or where i saw it there. Thats what they said, we used to come to you, we asked you to leave, but now people have to be taken out under shelling, you mentioned that a lot of peoples resources are really involved in helping civilians. To leave, what people say, we hoped until the last that there would not be such a thing heavy fighting in their city, well , thats right, they didnt expect that the russian army would go and occupy the city, and until the end they expected that it was them, but when the shelling increased more and more, and according to preliminary data, as a local woman told , this happened for 10 days, the shelling increased and people realized that. It was time to get out, i had a picture when a woman came up to us and said guys, maybe i can stay here for a day or two, im here chickens, and i tell her that it is so dangerous that it is not a fact that you are two days away will you be able to stay here, i asked her to get into the car, and she then quickly took the documents and left for the evacuation, in your material, we just showed it, i will remind the audience that i will say in general that a larger version of the material from the vovchan evacuation can be found on. The Youtube Channel of Radio Liberty ukraine, there was a woman there who did not want to go, because she says that she has nowhere to go, and therefore she stays, literally alone in the city, in general, where people are taken, and whether they are met or not they wont stay, you know, there in the open, and do they report it people, do they understand this, why she decided to stay after all, well , it is extremely difficult to convey anything to people under fire, you will understand, when you. Arrive, you have very few minutes to take people, and they still they take their personal belongings with them, at the same time the artillery reminds them that they need to sew their legs, and no one will do this kind of explanatory conversation in vovchansk, but they are told to leave, and there they are waiting for buses, the emergency services, the police , doctors, after which they are sent to kharkiv, where there are distribution points where people come. And kharkiv itself is now such an island of safety for the majority, then, as a traditional evacuation scheme, people are sent to various settlements of ukraine, of course this is not explained to anyone here and now on the spot, and there it is not a moment of conversation, it is a moment of survival, and it is necessary to make a decision immediately and leave, if people stay, well, they stay, it is their choice, however. To this woman, personally, even i, who is in my video, said that she would be settled in she will have the opportunity to live further, but from my experience in many settlements where people remain despite hostilities, people believe until the last that their home is me and that they will stay in their home, in their native place, it is difficult for people to leave their native walls maryan, tell me what the military says, if. You had the opportunity to talk, and in general about the situation, you know, you cover some kind of war, you have to tell the viewers who dont know, well, since 2014 , that is, not the last ones there two years of full scale invasion, you are one of the the most experienced military journalists in ukraine, and if we talk about the expected, unexpected offensive there, well , there was a lot of information about the fact that the Russian Forces are going to attack like that, and about fortification, for example, you can see it now , i think in social networks and the military. They write about the fact that the fortifications were not sufficiently prepared, the Authorities Say that they were preparing, can you explain here, tell what the situation is, for example, with these defensive fortifications . I can only talk about what i am visually i saw, there are fortification structures in Kharkiv Region, they are prepared, but the question is at which boundaries, if closer to kharkiv, then there are really prepared boundaries, and those boundaries have been prepared for a long time. Time, as far as vovchansk, there are no such lines there, this allowed the russian army to advance, why not, this question should be asked of the responsible persons who were engaged in the line of defense along the border of ukraine, and i did not have the opportunity to communicate with the military, since at this stage for press this direction closed because the defensive phase is active. Maryana, and i also understand that i am addressing you as. People with experience who can discuss about it, as far as there is, well, we see, you just said about these fortifications, other journalists there say about it, for example, there, yuriy botusov remarks about this, how sensitive such information is in general, during active hostilities, during the time when Russian Troops are breaking through there in the Kharkiv Region, how appropriate or inappropriate it is to talk about it, to mention it on the air, in social networks, because you know, there are also many discussions about this, how should it be . Within the limits and freedom of speech, important information, so as not to harm the army. Well, lets face it, silence can also harm the army, the fact is that. Everyone understands very well that from vovchansk to the border there are only a few kilometers, and the Russian Occupation army is abroad, which has already come to vovchansk once before and took this settlement , already sought to seize kharkiv, so the question is only rhetorical, and why is there nothing concreted there, for example, why are there no highquality fortifications there, why are the soldiers forced to. Stand kneedeep in trenches and defend the territory, well, this is not appropriate, and these questions should be asked, and well , i think that this is appropriate, because today it is vovchanskyi direction, tomorrow it is the donetsk direction, the day after tomorrow it is the zaporozhye direction, and then it may be the kyiv direction or maybe some others, so, well, if there is information, then the question. Is logical and for the majority of both military and civilians, and why then yes, why the russian army managed to reach to the outskirts of vovchansk, without receiving , in fact, resistance there due to minefields there, or due to some obstacles, and only they met the battle of the armed forces of ukraine, well, again , these are people, and they too, well, they cannot do everything when. They have 50, 100, 200 men there, they have to be able to defend themselves somehow, they are doing their best, as far as i have seen, as far as i know, but again it would make it easier for them if they had proper fortifications, why are there none in that particular direction closer to the border, for now, the question is open, i thank you, thank you for your work, i would like to remind you once again that the article by maryan koshnyar about the evacuation is a bit bombarded. Residents of vovchansk is on the Youtube Channel of Radio Liberty ukraine. Take a look. Thank you, maryana, for joining our broadcast. In kharkivska ova, meanwhile, they note that the district authorities are working on the ground, have not gone anywhere, and the reports about their alleged escape are fakes. And the next guest tamas hambarshvili, the head of the vovchan city military administration, is now joining our broadcast. Welcome to ours ether thank you. Whats up, good morning, tell me, are you directly in vovchansk right now . Yes, of course, we are directly in ovchansk, we are now engaged in evacuating the population, helping residents to leave the city itself, everyone is working, the military administration is in place, the National Police is in place, the emergency services, all services are working and fulfilling their duties. Tell me, as of this morning, what is the situation in the city . Yesterday, may 12 , you stated that there are no russian soldiers in the city . The situation is also going on today variable, there are battles along the border and along the city of vovchansk, you understand that the city of vovchansk is 4 km from the border, so all efforts are made to hide behind the border. There is almost a possibility of a Border Crossing from the city itself, so heavy battles are being waged, heavy artillery shelling of rszzo, control of air bombs, the situation is difficult to control. Regarding the evacuation, now i understand that there are 500 people in the city, how many want to leave, is it possible to evacuate all the people who want to leave the city . So on this issue we are now together with volunteers, together with the humanitarian coordination center, together with the police, as of yesterday evening, at 10 oclock in the evening, there were 250 applications, received by our hotline, who wish to leave, but it was only for the evening, for the morning, the number is now being clarified, the first brigades have already gone around the city to evacuate people. I think that within a day we will be able to evacuate the entire population. Radio svoboda correspondent Maryan Kushnir just joined our broadcast, he filmed the evacuation of vavchansk and says that there are already such points that it is simply impossible to get there because of the shelling and in general there are only a few minutes for this evacuation, is the situation really so critical that there are people who should be evacuated, taken out, but there is no way to get to them because of the shelling, that is the situation. I will repeat once again, the country is difficult, because there is heavy shelling and that is why, thanks to the National Police, they are risking their lives and evacuating people, it is so difficult, the shelling is going on. And heavy shelling, i repeat once again, that is why we are making maximum efforts to get people out and evacuate them from the city. Many journalists write about that and say about that, well on the topic of fortifications and fortifications, can you tell us what the situation is with your fortifications around the city, whether enough of them were built, whether they were built there the day before, or whether the ukrainian side was preparing in this way for the russian offensive. Yes, of course, the fortifications of the building were built and are currently being built and strengthened, but the situation was and is extremely difficult, i will repeat once again that the city itself is very close to the border, and it is very difficult to conduct any construction work right on the border right now, because to builders and all who worked, were able to do what they were able to do, because it is extremely difficult, because. That working under shelling is very dangerous, now it sounds logical indeed, that it is extremely difficult, was everything that was necessary built the day before, so to speak, or was it enough was in your opinion, according to your information, they were prepared, i repeat once again that everything was built, but maybe not so densely, because vovchansk, after a year and a half of decolonization , is under constant fire from both mortars and artillery, so i will repeat once again, what. From vovchansk to the border was 4 km it is very difficult to build fortifications, but i emphasize once again, i thank all the builders and soldiers who were based on these objects, they did their best to build fortifications. I am still clarifying with you about the evacuation, where people are being evacuated,

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