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Transcripts For ESPRESO 20240702

An attitude towards this truth or an interpretation of these events. Someone will probably call this also propaganda, but it will be healthy propaganda common sense, promotion of the interests of your country, even aggressive imposition of the interests of your country, but this is important, the interests of your country. And also said skabeeva, i quote behind each interpretation, as a rule, there is some solvent element that provides the interpretation of certain events, adding that if you are patriots, it is of course better to work for. Someone will also call this, probably propaganda , but it will be propaganda of common sense, propaganda of the interests of your country, even aggressive imposition the interests of your country, but this is important, the interests of your state . So how much does russia allocate to the progovernment, and in fact propaganda, media, for example, a year before the fullscale invasion , they received 1. 5 billion dollars from the russian budget, already. The second, according to analysts of the de bank project, almost two. 1. 6 billion in the 23rd. But, according to the investigation of the russian publications medusa and important history, another quarter of a million went to the Internet Development institute, which is headed by a former employee of the administration of the president of the Russian Federation, oleksiy horyslavskyi. And after that, we already understand that the money will not go to cartoons, although they dont skimp on cartoons in russia either, especially on such ones. Im just destroying ukraines weapons so they wont be used against. Donetsk and luhansk, russia replies, but the west doesnt hear it, because ukraine tells everyone that russia wants to destroy people. The same institute, according to the investigation of russian jellyfish and important stories, received another 600 thousand dollars for the season of 24 and 25 years. Why am i voicing all these boring numbers . Just to be of course. Russia does not skimp on propaganda. In the war of the 21st century, information is important a weapon. Undoubtedly, russia works with the audience of ukraine, and here the main goal is to quarrel and divide ukrainians inside the country. For the ukrainian audience, they clearly focused on division, on discrediting the militarypolitical leadership, mobilization, and so on, they are clearly working to make Ukrainian Society as much as possible with their own hands, and yesterday, by the way, i was very impressed by the opinion that andriy yusov said in an interview with us, here what. Because the greatest power of russian propaganda is meaty assaults of information operations, that is, they literally conduct an extremely large amount of intensity of information operations, which as a result leads to the fact that, well, we simply suffocate under it. Russia has long had a hand in systematically working with social networks. An army of bots and propagandists, armed with templated darkmen in nonstop mode, storms various platforms. And it should be noted not. Without success, they systematically, on a permanent basis, hit through various channels, they beat, they beat, that is, the power of russian propaganda on both internal and external audiences, it is in its differentiation from the point of view of channels and in the systematicity through these channels of reporting, that is, it is a classic of any communication, you have the same thing the message itself is heard in different words from different target audiences, from a blogger, from an alleged law enforcer, from a lawyer, from a journalist, and so on and so on, thats when it gets stuck in your head and you can continue to work with it, you can go somewhere there. And so on. Last year, they dispersed more actively matches, for example, between those ukrainians who went to safe countries and those who stayed to live in ukraine. Information about heavy losses of the armed forces was still intensively posted on telegram channels. Currently, russian bots have focused on the issue of mobilization in ukraine, for example, launching videos on social networks, allegedly on behalf of the evaders. They find any loopholes in society, lets say, there is a logical dissatisfaction, say, military women, or members of the families of military men who are in. Fighting without rotation since the 22nd year, and they have the right to speak about the fact that maybe my husband or my wife will come to me for a rotation and in general it is necessary to change, and they are fueling this protest and dispersing, so to speak, organics, that is, someone wrote about it, they threw money into advertising this, that, so that more people can see this absolutely sincere. Absolutely legitimate post, and the mobilization law is passed, like any solution to a problem, the solution of any problem creates other problems, because if i have high Blood Pressure and i take pills, then it can be bad for stomach, in order to solve the problem with the stomach, i take other pills that cure the problems and so on, the same with the laws, that is, this law solved one. Well, how to discredit the authorities of ukraine and not only, russian senator, former head of roscosmos Dmytro Rogozin teaches students. A real master class. A second way of discrediting the political military leadership of an adversary country is through accusations of corruption, where a colossal amount of deepfaking is used to prove that a specific individual from the adversary just a thief work everything is clear, dmitry, nothing to add. The same rogozin tells future journalists and diplomats how to manipulate Public Opinion in the west, according to him, it is enough to simply sway the local press. Journalists in their country are usually critical of their government, so it is quite easy for foreign diplomats, if they know how to work with the Journalistic Community, to sway this Journalistic Community to their side. The same. Certain narratives are broadcast to europe, which again nevertheless, the divisions within the vision of the development of the European Union are increasing, there are rightwing groups that are gaining popularity, which, lets say, renounce certain values ​​of the European Union, in particular in relation to migrant policy, in relation to policy in certain uh. In certain moments, even, the fight against corruption, including, hungary can hardly be called a state that is an example of intolerance to corruption, so to speak, and this became possible thanks to , among other things, the work, thanks to, among other things , the presence of many russian oligarchs, who in one way or another received hungarian passports, invested in this country, invested even in copper, in this country, and we can see what this leads to, in fact, it is simply a change, lets say, of the democratic world, in such a way that russia it was convenient for them to manipulate, corruption, buying officials, buying the media, propaganda, well, again , the diplomatic model, the business model, this is a constant process, if we talk about the main messages that the Russian Federation is trying to spread. In western countries, three main ones can be distinguished the first is the transfer of western weapons to the armed forces does not make sense, since ukraine will still lose, and the equipment will be sold on the black market. Hamas took it. Where did hamas get the mines and rockets used to fire at israel . And why is ukraine here . Message number two is the problems that ukrainian refugees allegedly create for europeans. And the third oppression, who would you think . Christian . Entire media platforms, entire networks of bloggers are being created. Both real and, shall we say, created bots, but very highquality ones, which promote messages, in particular church ones, saying that ukraine is destroying christianity, russia attacked us, but ukraine is destroying christianity, and photos of churches are shown, persecution, they say, of the moscow patriarchate is happening in ukraine, and it is said that the danger is coming from ukraine, not at all from russia, which is actually destroying. Churches, they dont understand whether it was the moscow patriarchate or not, destroyed churches, killed priests of the moscow patriarchate, they keep silent. The topic of todays program is a terrorist attack from. Well, where would we go without the favorite game of russian propagandists, the endless intimidation of europe and america with nuclear war. This may have to be done in order, firstly, to sober up the europeans and americans, and secondly, to stop the world from sliding into a world war. And how to resist all this, especially in such a sea of ​​disinformation, which russia gushes out. First, they say. You feel that they are trying to sway you. The strength of the russians lies in the division of the ukrainians, and this is how they are able to go, do, and so on, drop by drop, with patience, with endurance. And us, now with our emotional trick, with fatigue, with completely natural things in the third year fullscale in the 11th year of the war, you need to understand and look more carefully at everything that causes us these. Shit, that is, as soon as we start emotionally spitting at each other, on any topic, this is a signal that that russia may appear here, or it has already appeared here. Secondly, leave the study and analysis of rospropaganda to professionals. Our racism must be very , very deep. We have to be the best experts in the world on russia, because it is an enemy that is with us, well, unfortunately, for a long time, because it directly border and they will not calm down. Here, but in general it should be absolutely. Another strategy. It is also very important to get the first information from the socalled white media, which have already been checked for transparency and are responsible for the authenticity of their materials. These are scientifically proven facts that the first source, it forms the basis of our opinion, forms it, and then we have to be convinced of the opposite, if the first source is distorted and harmful to you, then i will really try to convince you. If there are at least these three basic things, then the probability that our resistance to russian propaganda is internal. What we have to do in europe, we have to build our narratives, and refuting russian propaganda is the wrong way, because it is a reaction, that is, if they say and we refute, then it means that the initiative was imposed on us, and we we will always catch up, that is, we have to build our narratives. To do them, since we have less money and less system in this, then we have to build better quality messages and work more purposefully with target audiences. Russia still long before the fullscale invasion , she got bogged down in the swamp of her lies, and now she is trying to drag the whole world into it. And in the same way, by uniting the whole world, this process can be stopped. Donbas was with you. Papa, there are discounts, they represent coco discounts of may for tizin 20 in pharmacies psyllanyk, bam and oskad. Big ether. Two hours in the company of favorite presenters. Thank you very much to elina chechenii for the information about cultural news, presenters, which have become familiar to many. Natalka didenko is ready to tell us about the weather on advent day, as well as distinguished guests of the studio. Andriy parubiy, peoples deputy of ukraine, was also the chairman of the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine. Events of the day in two hours. Vasyl zimas big broadcast. A project for smart and caring people. Espresso in the evening. Friends, congratulations, and we are summing up what happened in ukrainian and world culture during this week, and, unfortunately, we have to start with the news, which i think you have heard, about the fact that russian missiles were seized from the kharkiv Printing House fact. Print, people were injured , unfortunately, seven died, and 21 a person was injured, these are the people who worked there, these photos spread on the internet, of course, this is. Everything is very symbolic, because now, i must say, at the Cannes Film Festival they showed a film by serhiy loznytsia, a ukrainian director, which is enough, well, this one has a controversial reputation in ukraine, he was shown a tape, and many people discuss the footage where ukrainians carry russianlanguage books into waste paper, saying, look, this is war, of course, it is bad, people are suffering, but what about the books, and here. We we see at all another picture, we see how the russians purposefully destroy ukrainian culture, this is a huge blow to book printing in ukraine, 50,000 books, unfortunately, were burned, and in fact, the owner of this Printing House, serhiy polituchny, gave an interview to radio liberty, he actually said that this is it. This is simply a huge loss for the Book Publishing industry, because the printing factor was engaged in, well, publishing, well , more than half of ukrainian books and textbooks, in general, and therefore, first of all, the work on restoration will last a long time, at least several months, he also replied to the question, why, why this Printing House could not be transferred to a safer place after so much time, well, first of all, i will remind you that, unfortunately, there are no safe places in ukraine now, and secondly, mr. Serhiy said that it is. Very expensive, it is so expensive that it is almost impossible, there is very expensive equipment, and this is the first factor, the second factor is human, because it takes a very long time to train specialists who can work in a Printing House, and there are few specialists, not all of them will want to to move from kharkov, where ours is generally based book printing in frankivsk or in lviv or in some other city, well, that is, it is almost impossible for such a story in the place of specialists. It will be possible to find, that is why we have such a problem, but i will say that on the one hand, this is such a big, big, big tragedy for the book industry, on the other hand, once again, bookstores, various Publishing Houses, they showed their absolute solidarity , as well as buyers, ukrainians who love to read, well, first of all, i will say that many people supported the bookshop, the bookshop and the vivat Publishing House, which is part of one holding with print factor. And we can now look at the flash mob and how vivat Publishing House first printed it, it wrote a post in social networks, we see people who supported the flash mob that was announced, well, first of all, vivat Publishing House simply asked to photograph the books of their Publishing House, or books that were printed in the printing press, and all others and colleagues, other Publishing Houses and ukrainians who like to read, they. Invented that it is necessary to go further and to support both the Publishing House and the Printing House, and just buy the books that are here are now in the bookstores to help the Printing House recover as soon as possible, or to start working again, well, we just see now on one side, how is it, there is no doubt that the strikes were aimed at the bookstores, at this Printing House, and also we see another an act of unity of ukrainians, which. It is certainly very pleasant to watch all this, i will say that Volodymyr Zelenskyy also posted a video in which he showed, firstly, all the consequences of this arrival, this time, secondly, this video is in english , it is aimed at westerns, and this is very necessary for all of us to convey things, because we talk a lot about culture, people in other countries do not understand our ambiguous. To put it mildly, a little negative attitude towards russian culture, but i will say that it is perceived as an example, especially at various festivals, at intellectual, various artistic events, its almost barbaric, so when we say that we dont want to read russian literature, we dont want to have books of russian literature even in our house, we dont want to watch any russian at all of art, here, because this is what causes such a reaction. Here, and here are the books, and here are the films, this is art, and here we are now showing that art has been used as propaganda by the russians for a long time, and ukrainian art, ukrainian culture is also being destroyed, it is necessary to convey this, it seems to me that precisely in this case the communication from us, from the employees of the industry and from the president itself was excellent, well, lets move on to the music award. Of which we also have enough, they are discussed, i really like how it is now our show business is developing, we have a lot of different stories, and here we have an award. They gave it to yuna, this award has been given out for a long time, and it turned out that the antibodies became the winners of this award, which is quite ironic, maybe because their song fortress bakhmut is terribly criticized, it is said that it was written in cooperation with the office of the president , that it was a cooperative information campaign, it worked too patriotically, others say that. On the contrary, it worked good enough, but less so, despite all the criticism, antibodies won three awards at once, as the best rock band, which also caused a lot of talk, because many people do not perceive antibodies as a rock band, also bakhmut fortress video won the prize as the best video and also the song became the best song, and i really like that the best album was kerim djemaly, it is quite artistic and serious. Work, its marked, and to me, it seems to me that jamala is satisfied that she has done such a job, and she is marked, that is, she is not kind of marginal, and its not the kind of work that only a small number of people like, no, really this album is quite popular. The best duet of Zlata Ognevich and shumeyi with poraviya, as well as the best performer kola, the best performance. Artem pivovarov, the band druga rika received a special award for charity, and latx fauna, the best pop group, and klaudia petrivna was recognized once again, she became the discovery of the year, but this anonymous singer did not come

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