Stays. I only want to use a bracket if i feel the middle class isnt getting as much as they should. Its about the middle class and its about jobs. If i feel the middle class is not getting what i want them to get, base want that to be a lot, then ill do a bracket which will give them one. Charles with tax reform we can make it morning in america again. Will the president s widespread efforts to push this over the finish line get it there . Political analyst ford oconnell, chairman of the civic forum pack. Deneen, let me start with you. What a relief. President trump came out and said we are not messing with the 401k. Im pulling it out anyway. Shocked that any member of the gop would have submitted that as a potential plan. Hardworking americans would be concerned if the government wanted to get involved with our 401k. But i think the critics and the haters of the president s tax plan. They know with Economic Growth, this is what they are mission, tax cuts and tax reform will be back for Economic Growth in our country. The democrats not will be bert for jobs, better for the economy, and thats what the president ial election was all about. I dont get the notion of appeasing democrats. I doubt that any would sign on for this tax reform. Having said that, the idea of tinkering with 401ks and taking state and local deductions. Even a fifth bracket. Those things are not traditional conventional republican orthodoxy when it comes to boosting the economy. Ford the democrats are playing games here. But tax reform is about a battle of a messaging game rather than Economic Policy. What President Trump understands is he has to quash all naysayers whether they are on the right or with the democrats. He has to constantly drive home the case that this is going to benefit primarily the middle class. If he can do that, he will get it across the finish line. President trump knows he has to make the sale of a lifetime to get this through. Charles some of the infighting will revolve around it being revenue neutral. It doesnt add to our deficits. But something said that. A lot of people are saying if it score it a certain way, then there is no way. If you use dynamic scoring. Can they articulate that without having to get cute with the sort of things we heard in the last month . What revenue neutral is a buzz word the Democrats Use to get republicans to cave. Its phoney accounting. They dont take into account the growth in wages and the growth in jobs. Charles this might be the roadblock that stops us getting through even the 50 votes it needs. 51 senators told Mitch Mcconnell they are ready for a net tax cut of 1. 5 trillion. And frankly, get rid of the phoney accounting. If you care about revenue, the best thing to do is to cut taxes. Charles deneen, cut taxes. That used to be the early part. I know no one talks by the anymore, but thats another lone why we are seeing the damage, whether its the border adjustment tax or taking away state and local deductions. All these gimmicks, because there is no longer the inclination to cut spending. President trump want to cut spending. Thats part of his original plan. We have way too many liberal republicans in congress. They are spending just as much as the democrats. Thats part of the problem we are facing. Ford we took in 3. 4 trillion in the federal coffers in 2016. We know whats happening in congress. Everyone wants to cut everyone elses sacred cow but not their own. We do have to recognize we have to take money out of the federal coffers. Revenue neutral is a buzz word to scare the whe bejesus out of republicans. This is the whole game im talking about. We have a major spending problem, but no one wants to address it, so well have to find a way to do it on the corporate and individual side. Charles some scuttle butt, folks who earn a million or more, i think they may 18 of the taxes. Thats a lot of money. Are you okay with that . Those are the job creators. I wish i could say im surprised that the republicans are thinking about raising some of these taxes. The people High Pressure vest and create the jobs that we all want and create the higher salaries and growth in the economy, they are in that highest tax bracket. My advice is to stay away from that. Whatever they end up with, they are deep tax cuts in other areas, people will live with it and they will compromise. You represent business interests. I know 20 is President Trumps line in the sand. But there are reports of this ultimately being a 24 to 25 rate. Im look at earnings from domesticbased Companies Paying 35 , 37 , 38 . They would be happy with 25 . The key is get as low as you can and you will get more growth. Its a great tax plan. You dont want to see it shrink away to nothing. So man up. Republicans should do what they promise. Charles i think President Trump recognizes it. And you alluded to it as well. You have got to sell this to the american public. You can get majority of republicans to vote for this. But you still have to sell it to the entire american public. And maybe that extra socalled fifth bracket is the way of doing that and mitigating some of the complaints from democrats. President trump is in full sale mode 367 he as the oped in u. S. A. Today. Why its important to cut taxes and why its good for the economy. The election was about jobs and the economy. Even though those on the other side look at their representatives, even they know that. Ford the white house will do whatever it takes to get this across the finish line so long as it cuts taxes and creates jobs. Charles newsflash. They will have to do whatever it takes. I have got a special programming note for you. President trump will sit down for an interview with our very own lou dobbs. I have got former oklahoma senator talking all things taxes. An an Article Five Convention. Also later you will hear from Veterans Affairs secretary David Shulkin and how the Trump Administration plans to save our veterans. Who knew that phones would start doing everything . Entertaining us, getting us back on track, and finding us dates. Phones really have changed. So why hasnt the way we pay for them . Introducing Xfinity Mobile. You only pay for data and can easily switch between pay per gig and unlimited. No one else lets you do that. See how much you can save. Choose by the gig or unlimited. Xfinity mobile. A new kind of network designed to save you money. Call, visit or go to xfinitymobile. Com. Charles fox news confirming the Senate Armed Services committee will receive a briefing on the loss of troops in niger. Mulling over a fifth bracket has some people wondering. The republicans are bending over backwards to get the tax cuts through. Help me out with whats going on with this tax reform, tax cutting thing. We are hearing all kinds of gimmicks. A couple months ago it was a bored adjustment tax. Then they were tinkering with motion with peoples 401ks. Take away state and local deductions. Nothing about cutting spending which used to be something you talked about. First of all the game being played on tax cuts is always the same. They float things out there to see what kinds of reaction it is. They shouldnt raise taxes on everybody. They should give everybody a cut. The way you do that is not only what you plan and the president has planned. But also by cutting spending. The gao recognized 400 billion a year of either waste or fraud or duplication. 100 billion of that is in medicare alone. This a lot of things we could do as republicans or conservatives or americans to actually cut the cost of any tax cut. The fact is a tax cut will generate in the lightning term additional revenues for the federal government. But if you want to do it the right way, you would eliminate a lot of the stupid city going on in washington right now. If you wanted to cut healthcare costs tomorrow. All Mick Mulvaney and the president would have to do is issue an executive order with Price Transparency. And let him get sued saying should not make people expose what their prices are. There are estimates from Brookings Institute to a lot of people who say we see a 20 cut in healthcare costs. So one of the ways to decrease costs is to make a competitive market available so people can see what things cost. Charles along that most bringing down state barriers. It seems like a nobrainer to me. It met with a lot of resistance to me. Until you have Price Transparency you dont have help. In tulsa, oklahoma, there is a 5 differential from scene outpatient prestanding privately owned Imaging Center versus the big hospitals. People dont know that. So they dont know not to go to the big hospital to get an m rirks. So they could get the same thing done for 500 versus 3,500. If you have that published, people will shop. The assumption by the democrats is people arent smart enough to buy their own healthcare. Amish buy healthcare for 40 less than the rest of the people in the country. Charles people have been at me for months to talk about article five. Kl them george mason stood up in the middle of the Constitutional Convention and said have you ever known any time when the government voluntarily ceded back power to the people . In our constitution we are suppose to be a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. Not the government telling the people what to do. We lost the balance of power between the three branches. We lost the balance of fed rainfall, shared power between the states and the federal government. 60 of the stateraised revenue is directed by a bureaucrat who was not elected to anything from washington. An Article Five Convention allows 2 3 of the states to make application in specific terms for what they would like to discuss and the congress has to call that. Whatever recommendation comes out of that would have to be approved by 38 states. The only dangerous thing about this is not doing it. Charles how close are you . People are getting excited about this. If you are upset and frustrated, the way to fix it is to go to convention states. Com and read this book smashing the d. C. Balancing the budget, limiting the federal government and limiting the terms of appointed and elected officials. Charles senator coburn, you are always a favorite. Veterans Affairs SecretaryDavid Shulkin is next. It really scared him out of the markets. His advisor ran the numbers and showed that he wouldnt be able to retire until he was 68. The client realized, i need to get back into the markets i need to get back on track with my plan. The Financial Advisor was able to work with this client. Hes now on track to retire when hes 65. Having someone coach you through it is really the value of a Financial Advisor. When it comes to reducing the evsugar in your familys dietom. Coke, dr. Pepper, and pepsi hear you and were working together to do just that. Bringing you more great tasting beverages with less sugar or no sugar at all. Smaller portion sizes, clear calorie labels, and reminders to think balance. Because we know mom wants whats best. More beverage choices, smaller portions, less sugar. Balanceus. Org charles as suicide rates rise across the general u. S. Population, they are rising faster in the veterans population. 20 seud suicides a day were veterans in 2016. They are 2 higher than the general population. Secretary shulkin, thank you for joining the show. I know when you took the job you said Suicide Prevention was your top political priority. Give us an assessment of how things are going. It remains a priority. We are focusing all our efforts to get that number down. We are working with Community Partners and find new ways to address the treatment to make sure we get that rate down very quickly. Charles i looked at the last report issued by the va. The suicide rise among female veterans. In twicts was 100 per 9,000 persons. And it doubled to 17 . Is there any reason for the surge in the women who have served our nation . Those getting care in the va system are seeing a decrease in their suicide rate over the last 1415 years we have been seeing this. But those who are not getting care are seeing a 98 increase. We are trying to make sure women are are getting the right kind of Mental Health services. Charles we have a lot of vets who watch this show. And people and their family who serve in the armed forces. Its tough to get message out there. We cant do it alone so we are working with our Community Partners. Our churches and our community groups. We are also about to release a Public Service announcement tom hanks has done to us to get the word out to a broader audience. Charles recently there has been criticism of the Veterans Affairs saying they helped fuel the Opioid Crisis killing thousands of veterans and it goes on to talk about the relationship with the purdue pharmaceutical. What do you make of some of the criticism being leveled at your agency . I think the data suggests the va started to address this issue well before most of other organizations in the united states. We started to focus on opioid reduction in 2010. Since then we have seen a 36 reduction in the use of opioids among veterans. And they are being replicated bother organizations around the country. Our goal is to make sure veterans get adequate pain relief but look towards opioid only after they exhausted other options. I know you have a close relationship with President Trump and his war, if you will, with the media. Does that harm your efforts in any way across the board and the things you are trying to achieve . I think the president and i want to be able to get the message out that is accurate and represents a clear picture. The only way i know how to do that is to be able to talk to groups and audiences like yours and to be available to answer questions that are posed. And i think the president understands that part of our responsibility to serve veterans is to get our message out in a clear and accurate fashion. Charles i would like to see the media cooperate. Secretary shulkin. I want to bring you back in a moment. And when we do, i want to ask you about the bedford medical center. A major crisis there. Keep it right here on fox business. Well be right back. We all depend on trucks. Chevy, chevy, chevy trucks. We think its because chevrolets are the most dependable dependable dependable trucks. Built to last a long long time. With durable durability and rugged ruggedness. 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Can you help the public understand after all the highly publicized death at va operations have this country how these kind of things could still possibly be happening . Wealth hearst of all we have over 300,000 employees and that they va system and this is an nursing assessment in bedford massachusetts. And we found out about the type of hair care that was being provided in the dereliction of duty we have taken action to make sure we remove this employee from va service. People are seeing a new type of va, of va that is not tolerating this type of behavior anymore and we have removed or suspended over 1000 employees since the president took office. Charles this being integrated into a best practices manual of sorts distributed throughout the entire system . Its common sense that we want our employees focused on our veterans and we expect them to do the duties as we define them. Wherever we find deviations from that theres going to be appropriate action taken and it bedford we believe the manager dared to take the appropriate actions. Im going to go up and be visiting with bedford and their employees and talk to thats and via there with elected officials so we can make sure we are taking this seriously and people understand we are paying attention. Charles i want to point out to the audience that the va is obviously a large difficult operation to get your hands around, 9 million bets that you serve out then you yourself have been lauded for going in and doing examinations yourself. People love the idea that you believe in the church handson approach to this. When i go about the way that i managed to do that or one i understand the situation so i do put on a white coat and a stethoscope and i take care of veterans and its my honor to take care of those veterans but i also know thats how i learn and see the things directed from washington are happening in the field and whether the systems we put in place are working the way that they should. Its part of me trying to make sure that im serving veterans in the right way. Charles before i let you go big breaking news continues to develop in the situation in nature the deaths of the four servicemen. The role of the va in its operations and we have heard how deeply embedded the military is after th