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Transcripts For FBC Lou Dobbs Tonight 20171214

Attorney general Ron Rosenstein . We take up the deep state sorts web of corruption with congressman jim jordan, former federal prosecutor Andrew Mccarthy tonight, we get into that. Top story, Justice Department clear political corruption at highest levels, question is how far down does it go . American public is being asked to believe that its individual ignorance in Justice Department. Playing the plaguing the doj and the fbi. Reopen every investigation he has touched. Nations Deputy Attorney general, does not see it that way. For that matter, he does not see it at all. Rosen stein testified before House Judiciary Committee today, defending the department of justice. Fox news chief intelligence correspondent Catherine Herridge with the report. I think that public trust is gone. Reporter republican say antitrump undermine confidence in russia investigation, pointing to august test from fb fbi agent to lisa page. He writes the path you threw out for considering. Andys Office Strong continue im afraid we cant take that risk. He thought he was super agent game james bond. Reporter rose rosenstein pointo a review. Are you concerned that comey fbi and obama Justice Department worked with one campaign to go after another campaign . That is what it goes through. If you have those walmart shop are trump voters, that peter strzok, so derided in textmessages how to they react to that . We have appropriate internal Affairs Officers who get to bottom of that. Robert mueller fired strzok last summer when he learned about antitrump text. On special counsel team. Straight face, can you say. Unbiased, will give President Trump a fair shake. We recognize we have employers with political opinions, our responsibility to make sure those opinions do not influence their actions. Reporter defending fbi agent. Strzok did not say anything about donald trump that the majority of americans were not thinking at the same time. Reporter an alleged political bias can go both ways. People are allows to have their personal opinions and political affiliation. Somewhere counsel mueller and james comey and you are life long republicans. They asked rosenstein to keep an open find about allegations again the president. To investigate these and other allegations of assault, and unwanted sexual advances by the president of theu u. S. Any other allegation you think, merits investigation, i invite you to submit evidence and the department will review it. Reporter on capitol hill, president s son testified behind closeddoors behind Senate Intelligence committee, we have confirmed it last the hours. Lou. Lou thank you. Catherine herridge from washington. Rosenstein today seemed unconcerned with latest overwhelming evidence that bias and political corruption has infested muellers investigation of alleged russian meddling in president ial elect, newly released textmessages from fbi officials peter strzakrchtionrza paige latest examples. They use the dossier to obtain a warrant from a fisa court, to semion members of to spy on members of the trump campaign, we have Court Documents that show fusion gps cofounder nelly was hired for specifically purpose to investigate trump. We learned that muellers top lieutenant, andrew weisman, praised acting attorney general sally yates, when it she defied President Trump on travel ban. Mueller prosecutor jeanie reed represented the clinton foundation. And Hillary Clinton for crying out loud. It was rhee who worked for a time under mccabe, and mccabe a wife pocketed roughly 700,000 in campaign money. Aligned with clinton, including clinton a biggest money raiser at one time that is Virginia Governor terry mccullagh. At least 9 of muellers 17 attorneys are democratic donors, 5 of them, donating to Hillary Clinton. Not a single republican among them. Our first guest tonight says that public trust is gone after rosenstein aar appearance, callg for a Second Special counsel, joining us congressman jim jordan. Member of House Freedom caucus. Great too have you with us. What was your reaction when you heard him dismiss everything . Look, you cant make this stuff up, it this story gets worse and worse each day, and email that catherin catherine e highlights, she picked right message, that textmessage. Whole list, but textmessage where he said to lisa page, peter strzok says we cant let this happen, we cant let donald trump be president , that shows he is thinking about a plan to stop one partys nominee from being president , peter strzokrchtio strzok ran the clinton investigation. He is the guy who ran russia investigation, he is the guy who interviewed flynn, picked by mueller to be on his team, i think he is central player, now wwe have this textmessage between him and lisa page, he says we need an insurance policy, we need Something Else to stop trump, that is what he was thinking at level. At fbi that is what this is about we need a second extinguish counsel should disban the whole mueller toom righ teat now. Robert mueller, and rosenstein, lets put up quote from peter again. You were not appalled by just antitrump. No. Lou you are appalled this is an active effort to prevent his path to presidency. This shows intent to do something to stop donald trump, who was nominated by Republican Party running for president , they are trying to stop him, i think it had to do withs dossier. Lou i want to believe path you threw out for consideration in andys office, presumed to be mccabe, i am afraid we cant take that risk, like an insurance policy. Unlikely event you die before youre 40. This is clearly intent, it also is presumptive of some illusion that takes him beyond what youring iss about james bond. And fbi. This is say man who is a political activist who means too have his way, that is only way, it is antidemocratic, antiamerican. It is god awful, yet mueller does not call for his resignation and rosen stein does not call. Does anyone make a decision in department of justice . No kidding. This is here is the concern. Peter strzok thought he was the saving the world, mr. Super james bond in his mind, he thinks he is doing that Great Service against the very guy people are going to elect, President Trump, he is no different from lois lerner. This is the same mind set, here we have the guy who i think, took the dossier, discredited, disproven dossier, fake news. And took that document that clintons paid for, i think he dressed it up and presented it to fisa court, i think that deputy head of Counter Intelligence peter strzok did that, it is about 2 questions, did fbi pay christopher steel, did they take his work product, and present it as real intelligence, and take if to fisa court to get war warrants,f it is yes, this is as bad as anything i have seen in the government, and people like peter strzok needs to be held account in. Lou do you mean go to jail. If that what it is. But, we need to and are you mccd lisa page, and oro, well say if they take of fifth or answer questions. I would love a grand jury impaneled here. I much prefer to see jail sentences for violating the trust of the American People, and working against the constitution and yes, the president of the united states. You are tired of it most personally, i am. But importantly the American People are tired of it they are sick double standards, because you are peter strzok some big shot at fbi there are different standards for you . It did you not work that way. Lou as i listened and you have been asking the questions i have been listening. I am interested in quiet chill that seems to be only answer these officials are capable of when you ask, did you pay for the dossier . Did you think about the consequences of what you are doing . And they dont answer, there is silence, in the chill in the air is an answer of its own. I dont think it will be pleasant for American People. Im afraid that answer to those questions is yes, deep down, it scares me, if this happens, fbi had a concerted, foot with people at top concerted effort with people on the top to help nominee, if that happens in u. S. Of america, each day points to more and more likely that is what took lies that is sad for the country, i think it will did based on what im seeing all evidence points to that. Lou congressman jim jordan, always, terrific job today in committee. Thank you. Lou were coming right back, there is a lot more. Stay with us. Deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein ignoring clear conflicts of interest. Have you sign good cause to fire special counsel mueller. No. Lou we take up need for a Second Special counsel to investigate corrupt department of justice and fbi leadership with Andrew Mccarthy. Deep state exposed. Fusion gps admits it hired a top wife nelly orr to investigate President Trump, we will have more on deep state attack against President Trump here next. Stay with us, well lou Deputy Attorney general Rod Rosenstein today rejecting the idea that political donation to democrats by members of special counsel Robert Muellers team shows their bias in anyway against trump. Not aware of any impropriety we have regulation, issu special counsel subject to oversight by the department. I am not aware of any violation of those rules by the special counsel employees. You dont think it creates that appearance. Appearance is in the eye of the beholder. Lou congressman stick must be pondering, eye of the beholder. As if that is an answer. Joining me now, Andrew Mccarthy. Great american, great to have you hire. Thanhere. Thank you. Lou ic ar extraordinary performe today by Rod Rosenstein, i cannot believe how many times i heard, i cant answer that question, i wont answer that question, sure one who is merely presiding. Certainly the way that the special counsel investigation that we have came to be was an instance of him being passive in what his duty was. Which was to set parameters around that investigation. But i think two things this i come away with from the testimony today are the idea that a Justice Department Inspector General investigation, which is narrow, particularly compared to a regular investigation, is not supposed to be a substitute or a productsy in anyway proxy in anyway for congress to do oversight and get answers to these important questions on behalf of the people they represent. That is the way our government is supposed to work. Second thing that precious reliance on regulations about you know, whether people can give political contributions, look. I was a prosecutor, very opinionated prosecutor, i gave donations from time to time too. Usually, it does not make a difference. And in most cases the regulations make perfect sense. But you are always supposed to have an independent obligation to avoid appearance of impropriety. If you know you are going to a investigation, that is pull of politics, if you are partisan, that does not make you a bad person, but you should stay out of it, if you dont have sense to stay out of it, they should not recruit you in the first place. Lou why would you not choose a prosecutor who was not so fraught with partisanship. All people from outside, mueller came from outside, there are people like me, i am not volunteers, but people who are just like me, who serve the justice deputy, know how to do this, could get up and running quickly, he did not need to make toes people he took need to take the people he took this say bigger problem. Because who ought to be investigatedded here is whether the Obama Administration put the Law Enforcement arms of government in service of Hillary Clinton a political campaign, that is the big question. Lou is there doubt at this point any doubt. I think that degree to which is happened and whether this was they have good reason for some of the investigation, they did. I dont get in sphront o front e know, but i know that we spent a lot of time talking about collusion between russia and trump with very little evidence to rely on. Lou no evidence. Literally no evidence by fbi, turned up by any one of 5 investigating committees. And look to his credit, i want to be fair, mueller has released 3 sets of charges be they dont name trump, they dont allege any misconduct. There nothing about collusion or russia. Lou nothing t to do with collusion with russia which is was Deputy Attorney Rod Rosenstein was supposed to be confining this special counsel to do. We have parallel collusions here there is a lot of attention paid with little result to collusion between trump and russia, no attention, paid to question whether the governments investigative Law Enforcement and intel jedge inte arms were put in service of a partisan political campaign, it appears there severed that happened. Lou so much evidence. That i think that there is as jim jordan, congressman jordan said, that there should be an absolute Second Special counsel, i have some reservation, i am not sure adding more special counsel is the correct answer, but right now it does even request says be we have such an irvetioirk months prob immene problem. Corruption at top of fbi and department of justice that we need to fix it to me, that means people need to be fired and some of them go to jail. What were witnessing is awful conduct on part of men and women who are supposed to besetting behaving accord doing highest standards. It needs to be scrubbed. I am not as crazy about institution of the special counsel, i think there a bet wear to do it better way to do it with a strong, independent judge. Someone outside of virginia, outside of washington, who is look at this, and look at conduct of our Law Enforcement and inteligent agencies through the 2016 campaign. Lou what if i said to you, i dont neat an investigation, i already have the admission, of bruce orr, the come blissty of his come bliss ti compliesty, working for fusion gps, for cia on u. S. Soil, for what purpose were told russia but that does not make sense. You have as oconnor used to say a desk is a dangerous place from which to view the world, you would think here interests were somewhat more u. S. O oriented. And secondly, the number of times that we hear oig being deferred to by the man running fbi, what are the possibilities that oig has beenel o told to pk up this corrupt investigation, and take it on, is that possible what were looking at. I dont think we should assume until we hear otherwise that oig is playing it straight, i must say, person here, who could make it happen a lot fast ser President Trump. He could compel the agencies to cooperate. Lou that is braided with many imponderables and variables that would run to him. Cant be worse. Lou i think worth seeing where were going to go with special counsel, then i think you take that Justice Department, and everyone one of those sobs, you intertruce them to con infrom deuce them to consequence, is that unfair . No, but i think we have a simple question, what happened with the dossier, and fisa application . Did they misuse the dossier . Absolutely. We dont know that. Lou we know. We could find department of justice official whose wife works for fusion gps on that dossier, and who is specific interest is russia, and andrew wood the ambassador, i mean collusion. Right. Lou andrew thank you. Thank you. 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