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Simon i sat him down one day and i said, im gonna teach you three very, very important letters for when you get your first girlfriend. I said, its nda. A nondisclosure agreement . Hell be the first to tell you a healthy dose of ego never hurt anyone. I went to your office today, and saw a tenfoot picture of your face. Every time i look at the picture, i feel good. Tell me why. Simon cowell, the man who forever changed the landscape of entertainment. Can i come in . Harvey simon cowell come on in how are you . Im good. Thank you for inviting me to london, to your home. But this is like being at the Biggest Press conference in the world. harvey laughs it takes that to make you look good. Okay. laughs have a seat. Brilliant. What were gonna do, um, is not focus on the achievements in your career. I want to get into how you became that guy who achieved that much. So i want to start at childhood. Okay. Harvey so tell me what this is. Actually, this i think is my favorite picture, harvey. This laughs this is a sign of things to come, by the way. Thats you. Yeah, really miserable. Thats one of my oldest brothers, tony. Harvey right. Simon thats my mom, julie. Thats my dad, eric. Thats my little brother nicholas, and thats me, so i think that was in bermuda. So im guessing i was about. I would say about four years old then. Why that picture . Whyd you say that one . It really shows who my mum and dad were. You know, i kind of looked at them as very glamorous. Harvey your mom looks like jackie kennedy. Simon doesnt she . Harvey yeah. Simon and then i look really, really pissed off. Thats the sign of things to come. You were not an angel as a kid. No, i wasnt. I was really, really bad. I heard a terrible story. Tell me. You burned santa claus . Yeah, it was it was actually about this time. It was nicholas that still believed in santa claus, so i said, lets set fire to his outfit, which we did. And not only did we kill santa claus, we actually nearly burnt the whole house down. Thats terrible. So we murdered santa claus. You kind of had a privileged upbringing. Uh, yes. music playing we lived in a big house when we were growing up. Nannies, housekeepers, gardeners, blah, blah, blah, on the south coast of england. Harvey were you spoiled as a kid . Simon well, i was laughs yes, i guess i was. Actually my dad did spoil me. We would drive down we would get toys on a saturday, sweets on a sunday. He was terrible at discipline. Harvey you were terrible at school. Simon terrible. I was always in trouble, thrown out, suspended. Harvey bad grades. Simon horrendous. Harvey you ended up just quitting school, right . Yeah. I have a little bit of trouble understanding how somebody as smart as you could just not give a damn about school and learning. I thought it was a waste of time. Why . Because i wasnt getting anything out of it. I kind of learned how to add up in my head. I could talk english. I could write english. Learned a bit of french. And i just thought, what else is there to learn . So if you feel that way, did you have a goal to say, im gonna achieve x, and i know i can get there without school . Did you know what you were gonna do . Yeah, ill either be a film producer, ill work in the music business, or ill work in tv. And i didnt know what it meant, i just thought itd be one of those three. Your dad, he was a big influence in your life. Yeah. Yeah. Harvey his death came at a. Shocking time in your life, didnt it . I used to play him a lot of the records we were working on, and he had an amazing ear for a hit. And we signed this group not many people believed in them, harvey, but he said, i think this first records gonna be a number one record. I said, you really believe that . He said, yeah. Im never gonna say goodbye cause i never want to see you cry i swore to you my love would remain and id swear it all over again so i was in boston, and i was at a sales and music conference, and i got news that day that the record was gonna be number one. And of course the first thing i wanted to do was tell my mum and dad. And i phoned home, and i was talking to my mum, and i thought, shes not really listening, you know . I didnt know what was happening. Of course, he had unfortunately already passed away at that point, and they werent gonna tell me. Harvey that day . Yeah. So you had a whole conversation with your mom and she didnt tell you . She didnt tell me, and then, uh. She, uh they took hold of somebody else, who then came into the room, my bedroom and told me. Its like, christ. What do you take from your dad that makes you the guy you are now . Well, i still talk to my mum and dad now, you know, in my mind. If i really have a difficult decision, or im struggling with something, i have a mental conversation with both of them, and i absolutely know what the answer is. Its the weirdest thing. Do they generally steer you right or wrong . Right. Yeah. Yeah. What is that . Thats old. I actually dont have lots of things i kind of like or have. But this, i decided, was my favorite thing. Why . Because its like its old, and its got character, and its been with me on a lot of trips and meetings, and harvey highs and lows . Simon highs and lows. So, when you went off on your own, were you prepared for life . Um, no. No. I think that if i could go back, and do one thing again at school, i would say one subject i think they should teach us is good life. And that means credit cards, what it means, debt, mortgages, interest rates. I wasnt taught that. I wasnt prepared for any of that. Everything you just mentioned is about money. Well, it does unfortunately have a big impact on your life, particularly when you havent got any. And i didnt have any, and i had a lot of debt, and thats the time when you suddenly realize, i have no idea what im dealing with here. So howd you get into music . I got a job at Emi Music Publishing in the mailroom, which i used to have to walk around the west end of london with a mail cart. I actually was a bit intimidated in those days, because a lot of the guys my age who were in more kind of administrative roles, they used to look down at me, because i was their age, and i was delivering the mail. And then i met a friend of mine who was a manager. Within three months, we started our own record label, and then i had my first hit. Which was . A girl i was dating, actually, called sinitta. So macho hes gotta be so macho hes gotta be big and Strong Enough to turn me on simon cute, fun, and i just thought, we should make a record with her, and i started this record label. I had £5,000. I made the record, the video, i was the promotion person. I sold the record into the stores. I was the distributor. It took a year and a half, and then eventually i had my first hit. And you also had wonderdog. Oh, god, harvey. music playing, dog barking in rhythm harvey so, that was a big hit, but you kind of got in the act, didnt you . Simon literally. Literally. I said, well, what if we put a dog barking on a record for a joke . I send it over to radio one, they play the record, massive reaction. We then created this character called wonderdog. The actor we paid didnt turn up, so i had to get in the stupid bloody suit. laughs interviewer so then what do you do, then, in the evenings . Just go out, have a quiet night in. If theres any trouble to be solved, i solve it. And have you got any hobbies . Uh, not really, no. audience laughter i thought we were gonna make a lot of money you were wonderdog. Well, yeah, because we were gonna i thought we were gonna make millions. We thought we were gonna have our own animated series. Turns out that the guy who drew the dog ripped off tramp, you know, in lady and the tramp . So then we get a letter from disney, cease and desist. Whole thing comes crumbling down. We were a Small Company who was part of a Bigger Company. The Bigger Company collapsed, which meant we went down as well. When the Bigger Company was doing well, we all bought shares in the company. I borrowed a lot of money, thinking that the shares were gonna be worth a lot of money, so actually the shares were worthless. So now, i have no job, and i owe the bank half a million pounds. I think i had Something Like £3. 00 or 4. 00 cash in my pocket, and that was all the cash i had in the world. And i had to get from where i was to my parents apartment. cause you were moving in with them. Yes. 30 years old. Yes. And i didnt know whether the £3. 00 or 4. 00 would cover the taxi fare. And i remember, we just about managed the taxi fare, and i was so relieved that i could pay it. So you literally go to your front door of your family home flat broke. Completely. Actually owing money, a lot of money. Half a million pounds. Its gotta be a little humiliating at 30 years old to fail so hard. No. And to move back in. Honest to god, no. No . No, no. Thats when you say, hi, mom hi, dad they were thrilled to have me back. Get out. I swear. They were absolutely thrilled. It wasnt our son, the failure . No, they were like, you know, it doesnt matter. Youll sort yourself out. I was happy. Okay, im with you until happy. Youre 30 years old. You have ambition. You taste success. You lose it all. You move in with your parents. Youre broke and you owe money. And youre happy . Yeah. Why . Because i realized just how stupid id been. I still believed in myself. Did you . Yeah, i did, actually. Yeah, i didnt have any doubts about that. I just thought maybe i was around the wrong people. Ive got to sort myself out. Did other people in the industry did they view you as a failure . Of course, and certain people loved it. I mean, i had a tough time, im not gonna lie, and i was laughed at, i was humiliated. I was told i wouldnt succeed. The humiliation, some people crumble from it. You didnt crumble. No. No, i did feel some of the people who were mocking me i considered to be stupid in return. Music is a bitchy business. The worst. No, tvs as bad, actually, ive got to be honest. Tv may be as bad, but its a bitchy business. So there were a lot of people who took pleasure in seeing this kid fail. Yeah. And did that make you think, ill show them . Ive learned over the years that revenge is sort of a bit of a waste of time. You know, the best revenge is when youre successful. Harvey so, when you look back, what about your failure made you ultimately succeed . I owned it. I didnt blame anyone else. It was my own responsibility. Whats more important, money or art . Money. Why . You can buy art with money. Money. Why . Quitting smoking is freaking hard. St, like quitting every monday hard. Quitting feels so big. So, try making it smaller. And youll be surprised at how easily starting small. Can lead to something big. Start stopping with nicorette everything your trip needs, for everyone you love. Expedia. Im part of a community of problem solvers. We make ideas grow. From an everyday solution. To one that can take on a bigger challenge. We are solving problems that improve lives. Most people think take as a reliable phone company. But to businesses, were a reliable partner. We Keep Companies ready for whats next. man we weave security into their business. second man virtualize their operations. woman and build ai customer experiences. second woman we also keep them ready for the next big opportunity. Like 5g. Almost all of the fortune 500 partner with us. woman when it comes to digital transformation. Verizon keeps business ready. This is the epson no more buying cartridges. Big ink tanks. Lots of ink. Print about. This many pages. The epson ecotank. Just fill and chill. [ drathis holiday. Ahhhhh ahhhhh a distant friend returns. Elliott. You came back and while lots of things have changed. Wooooah woah its called the internet. Some things havent. Get ready for a reunion 3 million light years in the making. Woohoo yeah its our most dangerous addiction. And to get the whole world clean . That takes a lot more than an alternative. So we took our worst vice, and turned it into the dna for a better system. Materials made from recycled plastic woven and molded into all the things we consume. We created bionic and put the word out with godaddy. What will you change . Make the world you want. Okay, whats so special about this . Simon it says riva. Harvey what does that mean . Simon riva. Well, riva is like the best powerboat in the world. I love rivas, so i thought, yeah, this is good. Now were gonna get into success. So, youre when you were living at home, at a point, you had to have a new plan. So what turned your life around . What turned my life around . I managed to get a deal with bmg. Harvey okay. Simon im now past 30, harvey. And i start to understand, round about this age, that this is a business where anyone can buy your products. You can be young, middleaged, you can be old. What can i do which sets me apart from everybody else . So what could you do . Tv. And in the studio to pursue these points, morris veronique and simon cowell. Simon i started to see there was television, there was music, and how can i be the bridge between things being on tv and then selling records . Its just sort of i wouldnt say it was a light bulb moment. I just saw this massive opportunity. A friend of mine whose son had, um. Had gone to see the wrestlers . They were called the wwf in those days. He said, you know theyve sold out wembley stadium, 82,000 seats in 27 minutes . No artist in the worlds doing that. I said, let me have a look at it, and i watched the show, and its like music everywhere, and i called up vince mcmahon, you know, blind call. I went, can i have a conversation with someone about the music . I just bought the music rights to the wwf. Didnt know what i was gonna do with it. When i told my boss, she said, what . Theyre wrestlers. What are you gonna do with it . I said, look, these kids are buying up everything. The musics a big part of it. Well do it. She got on her knees, harvey, literally said, im begging you not to do this. And i went, well, im doing it. And i did it. I phoned up haim saban, cause hes got the Power Rangers, and i said, how much do you want to sell me the Power Rangers music rights for . And he gave me this astronomical figure. I said, well, i havent got that kind of money. He said, well, why should i give it to you . I said, cause theres no gold disc, haim, on that wall. And he went, youre right. And so he gave it to me for like 50 grand. Again, i sold millions and millions of records. Go, go, Power Rangers go, go, Power Rangers go, go, Power Rangers man again im not singing anymore youve achieved so much. What is success . Oh, god. The ability to do what you want to do in your life. Whats it measured by . By money, by gold records . Partly money. Money . Partly money, yeah. Enough how much of a part is money . Its always a part. Ive never met an artist or a producer who will do it for nothing. You arent ashamed of the trappings of success. Not ashamed of it, no. You have a beautiful home in london, you have a beautiful home in beverly hills. You go on great vacations, you. You know, you have a lot of money and you spend a lot of money. Simon living the dream. Whats more important, money or art . Money. Why . You can buy art with money. Harvey you have had your share of accolades and awards. How important is that to you . Not as important as having hits. Where do you see your biggest success . Where do you see, this was the seminal moment of my life . Too many times, harvey, because every hit has a meaning for me. I think, look, when stammers once you go over the age of 50, you always want to believe that you still are. Relevant . Yeah, relevant, yeah, yeah. Does that scare you . Yeah, yeah. Because you dont want to be the dad dancing at the wedding. You got an email from itv in england, saying americas got talent was bleep . They turned it down, and i had no buyer. Saying americas got talent was bleep . Ive always loved and im still going for my best, even though i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib not caused by a heart valve problem. So if theres a better treatment than warfarin, ill go for that. Eliquis. Eliquis is proven to reduce stroke risk better than warfarin. Plus has significantly less major bleeding than warfarin. Eliquis is fdaapproved and has both. Whats next . Sharing my roots. 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Male anchor beats the odds at the box office to become a rare nonfranchise hit. You can give help and hope to those in need. When im thinking of an idea for a show, i write them out on a piece of paper. So this was i was in an apartment i lived in, and i was watching a show, another show which had singers on, and this singer was so bad i thought to myself, you know what . I would rather watch a show with a dancing dog. Ill make a show in which we have dancing dogs. And so that night i wrote out this format, and its called the best talent show in the world the talent show. Which actually is got talent. Harvey got talent. cheers, applause music playing good boy so this is pretty true to form. Its pretty close. Its pretty close, yeah. I mean its not complicated. It talks about how many people start, and it talks about how we narrow the people down. Harvey so this is a pretty good template. Simon yeah. Actually, the interesting thing is, that is essentially the format, and its a half a page. One of your Business Partners told me today that you got an email from itv in england, saying this was bleep . Simon they turned it down, and i had no buyer, so i went to america, and i just got a call out of the blue from nbc, and they said, whats this show youre working on . Harvey fast forward to that. So its officially the biggest reality show in the world. And in more countries than any other show. Yeah, its now in about 100. music playing thats amazing. One note. Yeah. Leads to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you look for when you see a thousand bands, a thousand singers, a thousand guys, a thousand girls, and you say, that one has it. Or, if i could put that combination together. What do you look for . I see certain people in black and white, and then i see someone in full color. So Biggest Press<\/a> conference in the world. harvey laughs it takes that to make you look good. Okay. laughs have a seat. Brilliant. What were gonna do, um, is not focus on the achievements in your career. I want to get into how you became that guy who achieved that much. So i want to start at childhood. Okay. Harvey so tell me what this is. Actually, this i think is my favorite picture, harvey. This laughs this is a sign of things to come, by the way. Thats you. Yeah, really miserable. Thats one of my oldest brothers, tony. Harvey right. Simon thats my mom, julie. Thats my dad, eric. Thats my little brother nicholas, and thats me, so i think that was in bermuda. So im guessing i was about. I would say about four years old then. Why that picture . Whyd you say that one . It really shows who my mum and dad were. You know, i kind of looked at them as very glamorous. Harvey your mom looks like jackie kennedy. Simon doesnt she . Harvey yeah. Simon and then i look really, really pissed off. Thats the sign of things to come. You were not an angel as a kid. No, i wasnt. I was really, really bad. I heard a terrible story. Tell me. You burned santa claus . Yeah, it was it was actually about this time. It was nicholas that still believed in santa claus, so i said, lets set fire to his outfit, which we did. And not only did we kill santa claus, we actually nearly burnt the whole house down. Thats terrible. So we murdered santa claus. You kind of had a privileged upbringing. Uh, yes. music playing we lived in a big house when we were growing up. Nannies, housekeepers, gardeners, blah, blah, blah, on the south coast of england. Harvey were you spoiled as a kid . Simon well, i was laughs yes, i guess i was. Actually my dad did spoil me. We would drive down we would get toys on a saturday, sweets on a sunday. He was terrible at discipline. Harvey you were terrible at school. Simon terrible. I was always in trouble, thrown out, suspended. Harvey bad grades. Simon horrendous. Harvey you ended up just quitting school, right . Yeah. I have a little bit of trouble understanding how somebody as smart as you could just not give a damn about school and learning. I thought it was a waste of time. Why . Because i wasnt getting anything out of it. I kind of learned how to add up in my head. I could talk english. I could write english. Learned a bit of french. And i just thought, what else is there to learn . So if you feel that way, did you have a goal to say, im gonna achieve x, and i know i can get there without school . Did you know what you were gonna do . Yeah, ill either be a film producer, ill work in the music business, or ill work in tv. And i didnt know what it meant, i just thought itd be one of those three. Your dad, he was a big influence in your life. Yeah. Yeah. Harvey his death came at a. Shocking time in your life, didnt it . I used to play him a lot of the records we were working on, and he had an amazing ear for a hit. And we signed this group not many people believed in them, harvey, but he said, i think this first records gonna be a number one record. I said, you really believe that . He said, yeah. Im never gonna say goodbye cause i never want to see you cry i swore to you my love would remain and id swear it all over again so i was in boston, and i was at a sales and music conference, and i got news that day that the record was gonna be number one. And of course the first thing i wanted to do was tell my mum and dad. And i phoned home, and i was talking to my mum, and i thought, shes not really listening, you know . I didnt know what was happening. Of course, he had unfortunately already passed away at that point, and they werent gonna tell me. Harvey that day . Yeah. So you had a whole conversation with your mom and she didnt tell you . She didnt tell me, and then, uh. She, uh they took hold of somebody else, who then came into the room, my bedroom and told me. Its like, christ. What do you take from your dad that makes you the guy you are now . Well, i still talk to my mum and dad now, you know, in my mind. If i really have a difficult decision, or im struggling with something, i have a mental conversation with both of them, and i absolutely know what the answer is. Its the weirdest thing. Do they generally steer you right or wrong . Right. Yeah. Yeah. What is that . Thats old. I actually dont have lots of things i kind of like or have. But this, i decided, was my favorite thing. Why . Because its like its old, and its got character, and its been with me on a lot of trips and meetings, and harvey highs and lows . Simon highs and lows. So, when you went off on your own, were you prepared for life . Um, no. No. I think that if i could go back, and do one thing again at school, i would say one subject i think they should teach us is good life. And that means credit cards, what it means, debt, mortgages, interest rates. I wasnt taught that. I wasnt prepared for any of that. Everything you just mentioned is about money. Well, it does unfortunately have a big impact on your life, particularly when you havent got any. And i didnt have any, and i had a lot of debt, and thats the time when you suddenly realize, i have no idea what im dealing with here. So howd you get into music . I got a job at Emi Music Publishing<\/a> in the mailroom, which i used to have to walk around the west end of london with a mail cart. I actually was a bit intimidated in those days, because a lot of the guys my age who were in more kind of administrative roles, they used to look down at me, because i was their age, and i was delivering the mail. And then i met a friend of mine who was a manager. Within three months, we started our own record label, and then i had my first hit. Which was . A girl i was dating, actually, called sinitta. So macho hes gotta be so macho hes gotta be big and Strong Enough<\/a> to turn me on simon cute, fun, and i just thought, we should make a record with her, and i started this record label. I had \u00a35,000. I made the record, the video, i was the promotion person. I sold the record into the stores. I was the distributor. It took a year and a half, and then eventually i had my first hit. And you also had wonderdog. Oh, god, harvey. music playing, dog barking in rhythm harvey so, that was a big hit, but you kind of got in the act, didnt you . Simon literally. Literally. I said, well, what if we put a dog barking on a record for a joke . I send it over to radio one, they play the record, massive reaction. We then created this character called wonderdog. The actor we paid didnt turn up, so i had to get in the stupid bloody suit. laughs interviewer so then what do you do, then, in the evenings . Just go out, have a quiet night in. If theres any trouble to be solved, i solve it. And have you got any hobbies . Uh, not really, no. audience laughter i thought we were gonna make a lot of money you were wonderdog. Well, yeah, because we were gonna i thought we were gonna make millions. We thought we were gonna have our own animated series. Turns out that the guy who drew the dog ripped off tramp, you know, in lady and the tramp . So then we get a letter from disney, cease and desist. Whole thing comes crumbling down. We were a Small Company<\/a> who was part of a Bigger Company<\/a>. The Bigger Company<\/a> collapsed, which meant we went down as well. When the Bigger Company<\/a> was doing well, we all bought shares in the company. I borrowed a lot of money, thinking that the shares were gonna be worth a lot of money, so actually the shares were worthless. So now, i have no job, and i owe the bank half a million pounds. I think i had Something Like<\/a> \u00a33. 00 or 4. 00 cash in my pocket, and that was all the cash i had in the world. And i had to get from where i was to my parents apartment. cause you were moving in with them. Yes. 30 years old. Yes. And i didnt know whether the \u00a33. 00 or 4. 00 would cover the taxi fare. And i remember, we just about managed the taxi fare, and i was so relieved that i could pay it. So you literally go to your front door of your family home flat broke. Completely. Actually owing money, a lot of money. Half a million pounds. Its gotta be a little humiliating at 30 years old to fail so hard. No. And to move back in. Honest to god, no. No . No, no. Thats when you say, hi, mom hi, dad they were thrilled to have me back. Get out. I swear. They were absolutely thrilled. It wasnt our son, the failure . No, they were like, you know, it doesnt matter. Youll sort yourself out. I was happy. Okay, im with you until happy. Youre 30 years old. You have ambition. You taste success. You lose it all. You move in with your parents. Youre broke and you owe money. And youre happy . Yeah. Why . Because i realized just how stupid id been. I still believed in myself. Did you . Yeah, i did, actually. Yeah, i didnt have any doubts about that. I just thought maybe i was around the wrong people. Ive got to sort myself out. Did other people in the industry did they view you as a failure . Of course, and certain people loved it. I mean, i had a tough time, im not gonna lie, and i was laughed at, i was humiliated. I was told i wouldnt succeed. The humiliation, some people crumble from it. You didnt crumble. No. No, i did feel some of the people who were mocking me i considered to be stupid in return. Music is a bitchy business. The worst. No, tvs as bad, actually, ive got to be honest. Tv may be as bad, but its a bitchy business. So there were a lot of people who took pleasure in seeing this kid fail. Yeah. And did that make you think, ill show them . Ive learned over the years that revenge is sort of a bit of a waste of time. You know, the best revenge is when youre successful. Harvey so, when you look back, what about your failure made you ultimately succeed . I owned it. I didnt blame anyone else. It was my own responsibility. Whats more important, money or art . Money. Why . You can buy art with money. Money. Why . Quitting smoking is freaking hard. St, like quitting every monday hard. Quitting feels so big. So, try making it smaller. And youll be surprised at how easily starting small. Can lead to something big. Start stopping with nicorette everything your trip needs, for everyone you love. Expedia. Im part of a community of problem solvers. We make ideas grow. From an everyday solution. To one that can take on a bigger challenge. We are solving problems that improve lives. Most people think take as a reliable phone company. But to businesses, were a reliable partner. We Keep Companies<\/a> ready for whats next. man we weave security into their business. second man virtualize their operations. woman and build ai customer experiences. second woman we also keep them ready for the next big opportunity. Like 5g. Almost all of the fortune 500 partner with us. woman when it comes to digital transformation. Verizon keeps business ready. This is the epson no more buying cartridges. Big ink tanks. Lots of ink. Print about. This many pages. The epson ecotank. Just fill and chill. [ drathis holiday. Ahhhhh ahhhhh a distant friend returns. Elliott. You came back and while lots of things have changed. Wooooah woah its called the internet. Some things havent. Get ready for a reunion 3 million light years in the making. Woohoo yeah its our most dangerous addiction. And to get the whole world clean . That takes a lot more than an alternative. So we took our worst vice, and turned it into the dna for a better system. Materials made from recycled plastic woven and molded into all the things we consume. We created bionic and put the word out with godaddy. What will you change . Make the world you want. Okay, whats so special about this . Simon it says riva. Harvey what does that mean . Simon riva. Well, riva is like the best powerboat in the world. I love rivas, so i thought, yeah, this is good. Now were gonna get into success. So, youre when you were living at home, at a point, you had to have a new plan. So what turned your life around . What turned my life around . I managed to get a deal with bmg. Harvey okay. Simon im now past 30, harvey. And i start to understand, round about this age, that this is a business where anyone can buy your products. You can be young, middleaged, you can be old. What can i do which sets me apart from everybody else . So what could you do . Tv. And in the studio to pursue these points, morris veronique and simon cowell. Simon i started to see there was television, there was music, and how can i be the bridge between things being on tv and then selling records . Its just sort of i wouldnt say it was a light bulb moment. I just saw this massive opportunity. A friend of mine whose son had, um. Had gone to see the wrestlers . They were called the wwf in those days. He said, you know theyve sold out wembley stadium, 82,000 seats in 27 minutes . No artist in the worlds doing that. I said, let me have a look at it, and i watched the show, and its like music everywhere, and i called up vince mcmahon, you know, blind call. I went, can i have a conversation with someone about the music . I just bought the music rights to the wwf. Didnt know what i was gonna do with it. When i told my boss, she said, what . Theyre wrestlers. What are you gonna do with it . I said, look, these kids are buying up everything. The musics a big part of it. Well do it. She got on her knees, harvey, literally said, im begging you not to do this. And i went, well, im doing it. And i did it. I phoned up haim saban, cause hes got the Power Rangers<\/a>, and i said, how much do you want to sell me the Power Rangers<\/a> music rights for . And he gave me this astronomical figure. I said, well, i havent got that kind of money. He said, well, why should i give it to you . I said, cause theres no gold disc, haim, on that wall. And he went, youre right. And so he gave it to me for like 50 grand. Again, i sold millions and millions of records. Go, go, Power Rangers<\/a> go, go, Power Rangers<\/a> go, go, Power Rangers<\/a> man again im not singing anymore youve achieved so much. What is success . Oh, god. The ability to do what you want to do in your life. Whats it measured by . By money, by gold records . Partly money. Money . Partly money, yeah. Enough how much of a part is money . Its always a part. Ive never met an artist or a producer who will do it for nothing. You arent ashamed of the trappings of success. Not ashamed of it, no. You have a beautiful home in london, you have a beautiful home in beverly hills. You go on great vacations, you. You know, you have a lot of money and you spend a lot of money. Simon living the dream. Whats more important, money or art . Money. Why . You can buy art with money. Harvey you have had your share of accolades and awards. How important is that to you . Not as important as having hits. Where do you see your biggest success . Where do you see, this was the seminal moment of my life . Too many times, harvey, because every hit has a meaning for me. I think, look, when stammers once you go over the age of 50, you always want to believe that you still are. Relevant . Yeah, relevant, yeah, yeah. Does that scare you . Yeah, yeah. Because you dont want to be the dad dancing at the wedding. 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I would rather watch a show with a dancing dog. Ill make a show in which we have dancing dogs. And so that night i wrote out this format, and its called the best talent show in the world the talent show. Which actually is got talent. Harvey got talent. cheers, applause music playing good boy so this is pretty true to form. Its pretty close. Its pretty close, yeah. I mean its not complicated. It talks about how many people start, and it talks about how we narrow the people down. Harvey so this is a pretty good template. Simon yeah. Actually, the interesting thing is, that is essentially the format, and its a half a page. One of your Business Partners<\/a> told me today that you got an email from itv in england, saying this was bleep . Simon they turned it down, and i had no buyer, so i went to america, and i just got a call out of the blue from nbc, and they said, whats this show youre working on . Harvey fast forward to that. So its officially the biggest reality show in the world. And in more countries than any other show. Yeah, its now in about 100. music playing thats amazing. One note. Yeah. Leads to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you look for when you see a thousand bands, a thousand singers, a thousand guys, a thousand girls, and you say, that one has it. Or, if i could put that combination together. What do you look for . I see certain people in black and white, and then i see someone in full color. So Carrie Underwood<\/a> was a really good example that year. I saw everyone else in black and white, and she was the one in color. What was the allure to get into tv . I was offered to be a judge on a show called pop stars. Right. And i said yes, then i said no, and then i realized id made a mistake, because if i say no, i didnt get the rights to sign the group. It was very much. If i dont get in this now, im gonna miss the train. This is American Idol<\/a> that youre talking about. Yeah. All i was thinking about, harvey, was i want to make sure my label is involved in this business, so whoever wins, well sign the artist. Harvey so you never really thought this was gonna be a huge hit, but it was gonna be a driver of music for you. Simon i thought we might have a couple of years, im gonna be honest with you. I wasnt paid the first year i went on tv, harvey. I wasnt even thinking about it. It was like, i can probably do a better job at selecting the artists than anyone else, so ill do it, and then, you know, it all went it all went kind of nuts. First of all, lose the accent, mary poppins. This is American Idol<\/a>. You created this whole persona that is not really you, cause youre a nice guy. That went beyond horrific. Next. One of the worst voices ive ever heard in my life. Next. Is there anything i could improve on or anything . Yes. Dont sing again. Ugh one of my favorite things you ever did was when. When you asked somebody who their music teacher was. Are you taking singing lessons . Yes, i do. Do you have a lawyer . No, i dont have a lawyer. Get a lawyer, and sue her. Seriously. Im serious. Yeah. harvey laughing just hilarious. Well, yeah, i mean, i have to be honest. In the beginning because i actually found the whole process so miserable, the filming, im not kidding. It just put you in a bad mood. I hated it. I got so frustrated. Now, if you actually did the whole show, i was not grumpy the whole time. They just decided, the producers, it would be funnier to see me looking really miserable and whatever, whatever. So this was an accident. Sort of, yeah. So, accidentally, you stumble on something that in some ways is even bigger than your music business. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, yes. I mean, to be honest, we didnt think in those days that the show might be more valuable than the music component. God was smiling on us, because i can remember someone said to me, what are you looking for . I said, i just believe in this country there is probably a an artist, probably a girl, probably a cocktail waitress whos tried to get a record deal, whos got an amazing voice, and just cant get a break, cause this is preyoutube. And then, the person who wins is an excocktail waitress, a girl who tried to get a record deal with a great voice, and it was like it was unbelievable. It was like a movie. Oh, i cant believe its happening to me whoo laughs a moment like this would simon cowell be simon cowell without paula abdul . No, no. God was really smiling at us on the day she turned up. I mean, i realized in five minutes well, first of all, i didnt think shed last the day. Harvey she quit eight times. Simon lunchtime, she quit. Harvey yeah. Simon then three other times that day. But i was thinking, this is incredible. I mean, i got it. I feel like quitting this show right now, i really do, because i think hes one of the best singers weve heard. Its definitely a no. Whyd you leave . Oh, i just couldnt bear it at the end, harvey. I mean, it just became it wasnt fun. Sometimes with success, it becomes a happy place. Sometimes success becomes the opposite, its not a happy place. And once you get to that point, and once you get that sunday evening feeling, or the monday morning feeling, which is god, ive gotta go to work today, i always promise myself then its time to stop, and i got that. There was also a 40 million paycheck to ease the pain. The money was good, im not gonna lie. You walked away from a lot of money. Yeah, it was a lot. Im blown away by xfactor. You know what, ashley . This is why we brought the show to america, to find somebody like you. Im blown away by how many stars you created off that show. Simon thats been a good one. Harvey thats been a huge one. Bigger than idol for you . Simon yeah. Yeah, i mean, in terms of sales, yeah. But interestingly, i think americas got talent is gonna become, i hope, an incredible showcase for new artists as well. Really . I really do. As big as xfactor . Could be, yeah. What do you think of singers judging singers . I dont get it. Because it makes them insecure. stammers they dont think that way. I mean, you think madonna wants to find madonna . You think she wakes up tomorrow morning going, im really hoping the next madonna comes along, and i need to do something about it. Shes going, no, i want madonna to be more successful. And i totally get that. So when i see them judging these shows, its like, whoa. Thats a big statement. Thats true. What do you think of katy perry doing idol . Good luck. laughs simon i wasnt kind of prepped to be a dad. I think he was about two and a half. I sat him down one day and i said, im gonna teach you three very, very important letters for when you get your first girlfriend. Hes looking at me, and i said, its nda. Oh, no yeah. A nondisclosure agreement . Oh, no yeah. And i like to question your im yoevery move. N law. Like this left turn. Its the next one. 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And who doesnt love going home. Classical Music<\/a> playing throughout right, okay, so my favorite picture. May not be what you think, harvey. All right. Is it a person . Its a person. You may not recognize him from that. Its an ultrasound. Is that your son . Yeah, its eric. Wow, is that the first one . Yeah. Yeah. Was this planned . No. harvey laughs boy, did you say that fast. No, darling, but. At my age, i was 53, 54 . Right. So, you know, i wasnt kind of prepped to be a dad. music playing this kid changed you. Yeah. How so . Well, because, you know, weve known each other a long time and i dont think weve ever spoke about me being a dad or having kids. I mean, i was quite happy you know, living on my own, and harvey you seemed very happy. Simon yeah. And i thought, you know, could i be a good father at my age . You know, do i know what to do . And blah blah blah. And you know, then this happened, the scan, and then, um, for the first year, i did find it difficult, because, you know, up to the age of one and a half, they dont know how to communicate with you, and you dont know how to communicate with them. And i was thinking, god, im gonna be terrible at this, and then one day, something clicks and you Start Talking<\/a> to each other. Then, whether its a good thing or a bad thing, you suddenly realize, my god, theyre becoming me and then you become friends. Its the weirdest, most incredible thing. So now, at three and a half, hes like my best friend. Really . 100 , and he really, really makes me laugh. So, if you had to be on a Desert Island<\/a> for the rest of your life with either me or mummy, who would it be . Why . Why . Like father, like son. Harvey do you kind of mold him in your image . Simon well, it was very funny, and i got into trouble for this. I think he was about two and a half. I sat him down one day and i said, im gonna teach you three very, very important letters for when you get your first girlfriend. Hes looking at me, and i said, its nda. Oh, no yeah. A nondisclosure agreement . So, seriously. You actually told this kid that . Yeah. So he re so lauren comes in, and i said, eric, whats the first thing youre gonna do when you get a girlfriend . And he goes, daddy says i have to get an nda. Oh, no you taught him that . I went, well, pretty good advice. music playing so what attracted you to lauren . Well, chemistry, i think. You know, sense of humor. When youre so committed to your work, to be with one person, im not gonna lie, its hard. And youve gotta i think youve gotta find a partner who gets what you do. Harvey understanding. Understanding. Not that everything is about work, but of course, im not gonna lie, it plays such an important part, and if someone doesnt get or like what you do or doesnt contribute to it, then i think you have a problem. There are people on sets and, you know, people who work in the music business who dont like it when they feel like you know, that the spouse or the girlfriend is kind of now, all of a sudden, in the persons ear more than the people who were there before. Is that an issue . You do get that, im not gonna lie. cause i ask her to come to meetings with me, because i think, look, its not secret information. You might as well since im gonna talk about it later, you might as well hear about it now. Then i dont have to explain it to you a second time. And there are times when shes talking and she can talk, and im watching other people, and its kind of like, here we go. So now its the girlfriend. But everyone has an opinion, and shes passionate about what we do, so i encourage her. They ever talk about yoko ono . laughs we havent got to the yoko place yet. Harvey when you met lauren, she was married. Simon yeah. Harvey and things do happen but im wondering how you navigated that. Well, i mean, im not proud of what i did, but then i asked myself the question i did this recently which is, would i have done it again, knowing what i did . Of course i wouldnt. But then i go, but then i wouldnt have eric. So there is the juxtaposition, because that is your destiny. And because, you know, i still talk to laurens husband now, you know, and everything is in a much better place than it was. And like i said, its something im uncomfortable with, im not proud of, but at the same time, i have lauren and eric, so thats the crazy place youre in. Do you feel like in the future youre gonna guide eric toward show business, away from show business . You have an opinion about that . He has he has he has to take over from me. Are you gonna sit in daddys seat today . I think youd be a really good judge. I am. Are you . Yes. Simon i mean, ive put him in training now. Hes here. Lets do this. laughter he said, lets do this. Simon i mean, hes down at the shows, he has ear plugs on. buzzer buzzes buzzer buzzes repeatedly god he said, well, how come everyone knows your name . I said, because im on tv, and lots of people watch tv. So i was explaining that to him. Why do people laugh at you when they see you . I said, i dont know, eric, they find me funny. But so now, when im having my picture taken, he thinks that he wants to be in the picture as well, so hes kind of like, can i have a selfie . And then he stands next to me, cause he thinks they want him as well, cause they do, more than me now. But no, i would absolutely love it, harvey, if he could do what i do. What if he gravitates to academics . Then fine, i would encourage him. I have a feeling hes gonna be more like me. Because you hope or because you think . I hope, yeah, yeah. I mean, im not gonna lie. I would love him to one day say not that, you know, that id give him the company, but to say, can i work for you and learn how to do it . I mean, that would make me feel incredible. And then youve kind of got a legacy, and you know, i didnt think like that before. I think it would be amazing. Serious question. Youve heard about a lot of kids who are in show business who get screwed up. Yeah, thats true. Does that worry you . Yeah, it does. Sounds like hes kind of a showman. Now, im talking to you im actually thinking this, harvey. I mean, i hadnt thought about this. Maybe youre right. But at the same time, even if he wanted to be on camera, i would explain to him like i did what the reason for doing it is. Harvey yeah, but then when people see simon cowell walk on stage and everybody applauds and they see adulation and all this, its intoxicating for a kid. Im trying not to talk you out of it, but i dont think theres much i can do about it now. I mean, hes always gonna be there doing what i do. I think that the one the good thing is, as were having this conversation i said to you earlier, its a bit like doing a therapy session. I was thinking as i was talking to you, i have a lot to be thankful for, harvey. Im not actually screwed up myself that bad, you know, compared to what ive been through. I kind of get the balance, and i wouldnt change anything that took me to this place. So im happy i mean, i genuinely am happy. I dont think i wouldve said that to you 20 years ago, that i was happy. So if he can end up where i am, i would be happy with that. Simon for one direction, there was just that moment where i suddenly went, oh, my god, how can i let these people go . But i cant put all of them through, but they look amazing together. Lets put them into a group, see how they get on, and that was it. But they look amazing together. Its been reported that theres a cyberattack on business every 39 seconds. Ouch. I dont even want to think about it. Comcast business has a solution. 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You know, prized possessions, which is for one direction and this is for 50 million records. Harvey i believe this number is almost double now. Probably, yeah. I think youre, like, 95. Yeah. Theyre, uh. A great source of joy for you, arent they . Simon amazing, yeah. I mean, this was one of those moments when it happened, and it really wasnt premeditated. Wed is that so . Yeah. 100 , yeah. So they they go on xfactor as individuals. Yes. Yeah. Harvey so this wasnt planned, that you were gonna do this . No. For whatever reason, they didnt get through, but when they were standing there after wed said no to them, there was just that moment where i suddenly went, oh, my god. How can i let these people go . But i cant put all of them through, but they look amazing together. Lets put them into a group and see how they get on. And that was it. We decided to put you both through, together audience screaming this was not planned out. Absolutely not. Harvey one of the biggest groups ever, just an accident because there werent enough spots. Simon there werent enough spots. What what is it youre seeing that other people dont see . Susan boyle was an example to me of what an idiot i could be, because i judged that girl, along with the audience. When she walked on stage on got talent, im muttering to the person next to me, please, god, shes not gonna sing. Im trying to be a professional singer. Simon and why hasnt it worked out so far, susan . Susan ive never been given the chance before, but heres hoping itll change. Doing the preinterview with her, im thinking, this is not gonna go well. Then when she sings, its like, oh, my god. I dreamed a dream in time gone by cheers, applause simon when that tape was delivered to me back in london, and i watched it, the edit, i thought, i hate myself right now. You hate yourself because you prejudged it . Yeah, but i said, its gotta go out the way it is. I knew the minute you walked out. laughter oh, simon on that stage. That we were gonna hear something extraordinary, and i was right. As you get older, and youre still, you know, to some extent playing to 13, 14, 15yearolds. Are you relying more on young people in your world to help you or do you still do it on your own . Im a great, great listener with kids. You know, um. I like kids to have fun. You know, so im not, like, strict, or judgmental. Harvey but this is business, its not fun. So when somebody when youre not sure of some record that youre listening to, do you call young people in to listen, and do you i dont i dont ask them, i watch. And its very interesting, because people react to certain things when theyre not actually directly asked to have an opinion. And that is part of the secret of knowing when something is good or not. Ive learned doing this job, you listen to the audience behind you. cheers, applause oh. Simon um. Im gonna say yes. What is the most disappointing thing thats happened to you where you wanted to keep a group together, an artist, and it just didnt work out . I would say one direction, i would have liked to have had them for another two years as a group. But at the point zayn literally just left, that was the point when we knew its over. I was sad about that, but one day, one day maybe theres another record, but at the same time its like, you cant make people be together, so. I got it. Harvey i went to your office today. laughs i know what youre gonna say. And saw a 10foot picture of your face. Simon. And . And. Youre staring at you. Yes. Every time i look at the picture, i feel good. Everything your trip needs for everyone you love. Expedia. For everyone you love. Most people think as a reliable phone company. But to businesses, were a reliable partner. 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And then i looked into the second room, and saw a 10foot picture of your face. Simon. And . And. Youre staring at you. Yes. Every time i look at the picture, i feel good. Harvey tell me why. Simon it makes me happy. You have a big ego, dont you . Oh, and you dont . I didnt say i didnt. You have to have a big ego if you do what we do, or what i do, definitely. Why . Well, because, theres no point trying to pretend to be humble the whole time, you know, like dogs barking okay, here these dogs are turning into, like, pack dogs. Okay, squiddly and diddly. Come on, diddly. kisses come on, sweetheart. Come on, come here. kisses come here, diddly. Come on up. Come here. Good boy. Yeah, so, you can do the whole humble thing yeah, its always a team effort, blah, blah, blah. But the truth is its not always. And you have to recognize that you play a part in what you do, or youre good at what you do. I mean, it might sound odd saying it, but it is its a fact. Is it that you look at yourself and you see wow, look what ive achieved . Is it you just think youre so hot . Both. Mirror, mirror on the wall. Mel b who has the biggest ego of all . Who has the biggest ego of them all . Mel b, whispers its you, simon. Its mel. God, i look good. Im not gonna kid you. Every time i go to work at nbc, and youve got the security guy, and they say your name, and they lift the barrier up, every time it happens, i pinch myself. Its like its a validation. I cant believe it. Im act not only am i allowed through the gates, im actually working in hollywood. You cant take that for granted. You love being a celebrity. For sure. Its funny. I feel like you dont need validation, because youve got success. But on another level, it feels like either you need or love or want that validation. Thats a good point. Thats a very good point, and i think maybe ratings, or people knowing who you are is that validation of when youre trying to be successful. That is the ultimate validation. Does it make you insecure . No. Well, it might go away. Yeah, it will go away, but i think id walk away before it went away. You know, the show goes forward, it will be different, but i just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. How do you deal with age, then . Because it generally doesnt get a lot better. Dr. Lancer. Harvey plastic surgery. Botox. Simon botox. Lasers. I wouldnt have a facelift. You are fighting age, and i might say, succeeding. Thank you. But at a point, you know, stammers if you dont surrender, its not a happy ending. You dont want to look decrepit, so you gotta look after yourself a little bit. Howie, have you ever had botox . No. Do you do botox . What do you think . What does it even do . Ask me to look surprised. Look surprised. Now be happy. Be sad. Wow, what a range you have. heidi laughs thats amazing. All in all, um. You are a vain guy with a big ego and a huge amount of success who now has a kid, and still sometimes worries that you gotta stay relevant. Is simon cowell a happy man . Ill take that. No, im asking. Yes, no, i genuinely can say that. I can look you in the eye now and say, yes, im happy. And i think of all the things i ever wanted in my life, that was number one on the list. Being happy. Yeah. Simon. kisses thank you so much. Youre a star. Thank you so much. Are you vain . Yes. Are you . Yes. Good, thats why were friends. For life. I mean that. Um. Youre more vain than i am. I was just about to say, youre so much more vain than me. No. You hide it well. Oh, my god, simon. No, harvey, and i mean that, and i love you, simon. I only mean it as a compliment, but you are. Simon, that is so not true. How long does it take you to get ready in the morning . Five min laughs simon, tell me the truth. A little bit longer. Like about how much longer . 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