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Evening edit starts right now. So the jury in the new york trump trial was dismissed until next tuesday after the defense wrapped up their presentation of the case. Fox news nate foy is live outside the New York State Supreme Court with the very latest. Now, nate, usually jury instructions are kind of boring, but in this case it could really be the heart of the trial, right . Reporter oh, it certainly could be, david, because these instructions are the last thing that the jury hear before they start deliberating and ultimately decide if former President Donald Trump is guilty or not. Now, trump just left the courthouse and at the end of court today he appeared frustrated. He threw down a note, sat back in his chair and crossed his arms as lawyers on both sides argued about what those instructions to the jury will be. Now, some of the highlights here, david, the take away from todays afternoon session is that judge her san merchan agreed to instruct the jury that Michael Cohen pleading guilty to the federal Campaign Finance laws in no way shows any guilt on the part of former President Donald Trump. Trumps lawyers also wanted judge merchan to clarify that socalled hush money payments are not all legal. Merchan said that it came up several times at the trial and that another instruction would be going too far. Now, her merchan did side with dumps lawyers about a key matter, prosecution prosecutors argue trump falsified records, but the jury instructions will read, quote, if the payment would have been made even in absence of candidacy, payment should not be treated as contribution. So if the jury thinks trump was motivated by his brand or his family, the bookkeeping charges could not be elevated to felonies. They would be misdemeanors. Trumps team rested their case after Bob Costellos testimony, he was the 2 22nd overall witness, the 2 opinioneddened for the 2nd for the defense. He testified about his close relationship with Rudy Giuliani and setting up a back channel the trump, he sent messages at miking cohens request. Trump did not testify himself in the trial. His son don jr. Said today outside the courthouse, that would have made no sense with how unfair the trial has been. Right now, david, the jury was sent home in the morning, and theyll be back on tuesday when we will have closing arguments, and then after that theyll be handed the instructions that were debated over today and deliberations will begin on wednesday of next week. Well send it back to you with. David wow, trial of the century. Of this century anyway. Nate, thank you very much for that, appreciate it. Joining me now for reaction, former doj official Francey Hakes and former prosecutor portfolio prosecutor and senior legal fellow at the heritage foundation, cully stemson. Cully, as were near to the end of this trial, are we any closer to know what that socalled other crime listed in the indictments, has lifted an extired expired misdemeanor charge to 34 felonies . Apparently not. Because if these are the final jury instructions which is the legal road map for the jurors that they must follow, millions there are other instructions out there, were done. And now its just with all over but the shouting, the final arguments from both sides and then the judge will tell them go off in the jury room and deliberate. So, no, i think were done. David wow. So, francey, arent we essentially charging trump with a felony crime which hasnt been specified . Well, david, that thats exactly whats happening. This is a mystery crime, and that is everything that violates the constitution and our system of government that weve had for more than 200 years. In fact, we broke away from england so that we would have better rights as defendants sitting in the box with. And here we still today have no idea, it seems as though bragg is trying to get a multiple choice option in front of the jury which is unconstitutional and wildly unlawful. David well, culley, isnt the reason why we we havent heard that other charge because it would have to be mentioned that that, that he is being accused, essentially, of a federal crime over which the d. A. Of new york and this judge have no authority to are prosecute . If to prosecute . Right. Federal finance crimes are prosecuted by doj or the federal Election Commission. They waived off on that, so now we have a jury thats probably going to go in the back in the jury deliberation room can and start scratching their head. And i think it was this judge has made a number of mistakes k. And i was a judge, and you dont want to be overturned on appeal. Hes made a number of mistakes, not the least of which was not letting brad smith who was on the federal Election Commission testify on behalf of the defense to talk through federal if Election Campaign rules. And so i think the theres even a conviction on anything, theres a lot of grounds for an appeal. David and thats an extraordinary thing, that essentially Michael Cohen was the one who was explaining because of his own conviction for violations of federal law, he was explaining the to the jury what federal law was where and hes a liar. Hes a liar, and and as we found out yesterday, hes a thief. So the jury was taking instructions, and it was rowed by the judge on election allowed by the judge on election law from a liar and a thief, and they wouldnt let brad smith who was the former chair of the fec testify as to to what really was the law about elections. David, thats perfectly illustrative of why this case is such a legal abomination. The judge actually let someone like are Michael Cohen basically instruct the jury on the law. No witness is allowed to instruct the jury on the law unless they are an expert if witness and it is an area of the law outside the jurys experience. Now, election law, federal election law is certainly outside the jurys experience, so its extraordinary that the judge did not let President Trump call their witness in order to define certain terms for the jury that they certainly should not be getting from Michael Cohen. David and, you know, cully, what this really brings to mind is the whole concept of the twotiered scwus hes system that weve heard so much about with regard to one side getting prosecuted for very politicallyoriented crimes and the other side not getting prosecuted at all. Or, if so, just a slap of the hand. Particularly with regard to what has been accepted by this judge from the prosecution as opposed to what has been rejected from the judge concerning the defense, the defense of donald trump. Our own trey, trey gowdy spoke to this just moments ago. I just want to play that sound bite and get your reaction. Roll tape. I dont like criticizing judges. I mean, i judges can be wrong. That doesnt necessarily mean theyre corrupt. I was stunned yesterday at how the strike zone was so different for the prosecution than the defense. And if anything, im biased towards the prosecution ordinarily. David so, cully, do you see the same thing . Is it a different strike zone depending on whether its defense or prosecution . Like trey, im old school. I dont think i criticize the judge, but i can certainly look at his rulings and which way did the rulings lean. One way, towards the prosecution. Typically, what you do when youre a judge if youre going to lean one way to the or the other, and you shouldnt, lean towards the defense because at least you inure to the rights of the person whos presumed innocent under the law. Here he went the other way, and if theres a conviction on anything on these alleged crimes, there are going to be at lot of issues on appeal that are ripe. David and francey, very quickly, finally, the role of the Biden Administration in all this forward to sending one of their top prosecutors from doj down to prosecute this case, also with the fani willis case, apparently they were dealing with fannie if willis assistant who turned out to be a very close friend as well, how deep does their involvement and theyre supposed to be hands off. The president says the doj is hands off. Do you believe what the president says about that . Well, i its interesting, david, because what you have here is the number three official at the department of justice going to a City Prosecutors Office as an assistant d. A. It just doesnt happen. The ladder goes the other way, the ladder does not generally go down. What you can see from this case is political partisan bias is everywhere from the if judge on down. David thank you very much, appreciate you being here. Turning now to the question of president bidens competence as his gaffes are really piling up, and the white house is working overtime the try to correct them. The white house had to make nine corrections to the transcript of bides speech at an naacp event this past weekend. This is now a common if occurrence for the Biden Administration if as biden continues his blunders in speeches. Joining me now to discuss is New York Post political reporter jon jon levine. Jon, good the see you. Good to be back. David thank you very much. Besides putting up that full screen of the nine mistakes that were made, e just want to play a little montage of some of the mistakes he made at that naacp meeting. Roll tape. When i was Vice President , things were kind of bad during the pandemic, and what happened was barack said to me, go the detroit. Help fix it. Im humbled to receive this organization with the character and consequence of what we do. I protected and expanded the Affordable Care act, saving millions of families 800,000 a year in premium. David let me just show what the corrections were. He said when i was Vice President during the pandemic, he wasnt Vice President during the pandemic. He said im humbled to receive this organization, he was receiving an award, not the organization. And he said that his expanded Affordable Care act is saving a families, first he said 800,000. Then he. Corrected himself to say 8,000 a year. It was actually 800 a year if you were to believe it. Right. David im just wondering, how much of his mistakes are, you know, kind of natural flubs and how much are actually concerted lies, for example, claiming there was 99 inflation 9 inflation when he came to office. I think a lot of it just hes getting older. What youve got to remind your viewers is thats a prepared speech. Hes not just riffing. Hes reading off a teleprompter, and theres still nine things you have to correct. So i do think, you know, you have to hide him, he wont do interviews, they keep him out of sight. But eventually, this is a president ial campaign, theres no more pandemic to hide behind, hes going to have to face the vote, and youre boeing to see a lot more of this voters. David and hes also facing his contributors who are getting worried about whether theyre wasting their money. He had a big drop. Back in march he collected about 99 90 million, in may he collected 51 million, so the smart money peoples seems to be going to trump. And this is a very, very big reversal. I think it shows reality is starting to take a bite. Obviously, every time you go into a supermarket, you see what things cost. That a matters. And theres also gee geopolitical issues like the israelpalestine situation where, obviously, you have parts of president bidens base that have openly prohamas, and they live in some swing states, and theyre causing major disruptions. And you have a lot of young voters who are very, very upset, but you also have very influential proisrael democrats, major e doe can nors who have written to the white house saying theyre unhappy with bidens approach to the conflict. And i think the white house is trying to sort of appease everybody and split if the difference, and you pend up just p if issing everybody off. [laughter] pissing everybody off. David you mentioned the scripts themselves that biden uses. Right. David you compare that, we just saw donald trump outside the courtroom ad libbing, feels perfectly comfortable and in charge. Right. That. David he, frankly, looks more president ial, and i think that may be dissuading some donors from guiden as well. Theres only a 3year difference between those two men, but we see a world of age hits all of us differently, and i think were seeing a world of difference in their respective competencies in front of the camera, in front of audiences. I urge anyone to the watch biden videos from 10 years ago a, 15 years david right, very different man. A completely different can man. David finally, on thursday night we see donald trump in the bronx before another big crowd. Of whoever thought hed be in the bronx being able to deliver a campaign speech. What do you think were going to see . Madness. Ethical madness. Ill say reagan was here in 1980 and did a similar rally in the bronx and this video on youtube, and he went on to win new york in 1980. It was a big spoiler. Oregon that trump is going to win new york but itll as i said, its going to be wild. David you going to be there . Yeah. David daf jon, thank you very much for being here. Still ahead, senator ron johnson from the Senate Budget committee is with us. The Biden White House tries the flip the inflation narrative claiming that inflation has nothing to do with trillions of dollars in deficit spending. Instead, theyre placing the blame for rising prices on greedy companies. Well get the senators opinion on that. Meanwhile, Jpmorgan Chase Ceo Jamie Dimon says he is, quote, cautiously possess if mystic on the economy. Well break down what that a means next on the evening edit. Many. If. marci so, how long have you lived here . opponent over forty years. marci and how are the restaurants around here . Are they good, bad, meh . Whats the average Household Income . Is there a mall . I dont know. A hair salon . 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Yeah. And i think its cool to be able to make a difference in someones lives in a way that is meaningful. Her uncles unhappy. Im sensing an underlying issue. Its tmobile. It started when we tried to get him under a new plan. But they they unexpectedly unraveled their price lock guarantee. Which has made him, a bit. Unruly. You called yourself the uncarrier. You sing about price lock on those commercials. the price lock, the price lock. so, if you could change the price, change the name its not a lock, i know a lock. So how can we undo the damage . We could all unsubscribe and switch to xfinity. Their connection is unreal. And we could all unexperience this whole session. Okay, thats uncalled for. David and lets welcome now to the show from the if Senate Budget and finance committees senator ron johnson. Senator, great to see you. Thanks for being here. The president is trying to dodge the inflation bullet now saying it comes from companies, not from government. So what do you think . Does inflation come from price gouging from companies or from president bidens economic policies . It comes from massive deficit spending, prohibiting trillions of dollars printing trillions of dollars. Too many dollars chasing too few goods. Two stats i use are the start of the Biden Administration, the dollar held value its now 83 cent 83 cents. The average american is paying 1,000 more per month just to maintain a standard of living, and if we put that in context, i look at a past studies, one from the federal reserve, somewhere between 3767 of americans in 2022 couldnt afford a 400 emergency payment. 400, and theyre being forced to pay 1,000 a month just to maintain hair standard of living. Thats why regardless of what the stock market says or the Unemployment Rate is, thats why people are feeling real economic pain. They cant afford things. David now, they have this new thing called the strike the force on unfair and illegal pricing. Thats supposed to get all those pricegouging companies. They claim that it saved 20 billion specifically on these junk fees. Even if you accept that as true, 20 billion writ large over the nations economy is nothing compared to a 20 loss in gdp because of inflation. That amounts to about 5 trillion. So, i mean, theyre putting these minute changes in savings that they claim to have against a 20 loss in the entire gdp. Its a distraction. Theyre counting on the immediate media who, by and large, are advocates of the left to potentially cover that like its a serious attempt, like its going to actually help people. As you point out, thats not even going to show up how many decimal points in terms of a percentage of our gdp. So its a meaningless number. Theyre going to try and distract the American Public with that, like theyre actually doing Something Like opening up and draining more of our Strategic Oil verve which is a dangerous thing to do reserve. Theyre getting desperate. Theyre realizing that the American Public is not if does not like democrat governance. Dad aired the worst thing is inflation if falls hardest on the people who are afford it least, and the the nondiscretionary spend being, things that people need Like Health Care and food and rent, that is up 6 whereas the discretionary spending, the stuff that, you know, rich people are afford, thats flatlined. But the stuff that people really need is going up so much more, and theres an economist who was on with maria this morning. I want the play a sound bite from him and get a Quick Reaction from you. Go ahead, roll tape. Most important thing happening within inflation is the fact that the drivers of inflation are in the nondiscretionary component, so, yes, health care, insurance, end rent, funeral services, daycare, etc. , etc. We have a basket of all these things that accounts for about 25 of the spending of consumers, and its up 6 yearoveryear. Handily outpacing whats going on with inflation. David senator, the president s claims to care for the common man, for the average joe, in fact, theyre exactly the people that are getting hit by this. By this. The very people that democrats purport to represent are getting hurt hardest by democratic governance. Lets face it, right now the democratic party, they are the party of the elite, of the billionaires, and republicans are representing the working men and women of this country. One of the real tragic problems of this economy is the fact that young people cant afford homes anymore. That was a, you know, that was just basic american economy, the way people build equity. They cant do it anymore. Corporations buying up homes, forcing people to rent. Thats not the way to have a strong economy. David by the way, the Monthly Price of mortgages because Interest Rates have gone up has gone from 1,000 a month in 2021 to about 2,000, the on the double that right now. Thats the increase as the fed tries to deal with inflation just on the monetary side, but its not enough to help the common if man. Senator ron johnson ors weave got to weve got to it to leave it at that the. Appreciate it. Have a good evening. David dr. Faucis Senior Adviser is set to testify publicly tomorrow. Law a makers accused dr. David warrens of intentionally using his personal email to hide conversations about the origins of covid and subvert federal france participant city laws. Plus, we have senator Tommy Tuberville from the Senate Armed Services committee on the chief prosecutor, the worlds top War Crimes Court seeking arrest warrants for leaders of israel can and hamas including israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over actions taken during their 7minute war with. Is there a moral if equivalency between hamas and israel . All of this coming next on the evening edit. The day you get your clearchoice dental implants makes every day. A lets dig in day. Mm. 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Absolutely not. Senator, were almost out of time, but quickly. What what do you think about the condolences sent to that butcher in iran . Butcher of tehran . Yeah. You know, its just amazing. You know how people come up with this, and we actually had a prayer somewhere up on capitol hill about that. These people kill other people. They kill it for a reason. You know, they wipe out their enemies. Senator great to see you. Thank you so much for being here. The great Tommy Tuberville, appreciate it. Meanwhile, the house covid origins panel holding a hearing tomorrow with doctor anthony fauci, Senior Adviser, doctor david moran set to testify. Doctor moran is accused of deliberately obstructing the subcommittees investigation into the origins of covid 19 to protect doctor fauci. The panel also claims doctor moran has used his personal email to subvert federal Record Keeping laws. Joining me now is House Oversight and Accountability Committee chairman james comer. Sir, great to see you. Thanks for being here. Youre going to be at that hearing tomorrow. Of course. What are you trying to uncover specifically . Well, we have evidence that would lead us to believe that doctor moran at, at best, misled congress during his transcribed interviews and at worst lied about his involvement and his knowledge with respect to Ecohealth Alliance and what american tax dollars were doing in funding gain of function research. We know that he was a Senior Adviser to doctor fauci. We know that so much of what doctor fauci has testified to congress is true is proving to not be true, and we know that we have emails where he bragged about how to avert freedom of information act request, how he deleted emails, and we want to ask him well give him an opportunity to explain himself and explain the evidence that we have that would commit that that he misled congress. Chairman, im just curious. The Ecohealth Alliance, that was a group that he paid that was working closely with the wuhan lab. Have we completely cut our relations with them . Finally, because of the work that our subcommittee has done in uncovering the truth about the origins of covid 19, the Biden Administration continued to fund Ecohealth Alliance until just a few months ago. Finally theyve been disbarred. But another thing with doctor, doctor moran thats coming to tomorrow, he has said numerous times that peter daszak, the ceo of health alliance, was his best friend. So theres a lot of conflicts of interest that our witness has tomorrow. And i think the American People are going to learn a lot more about the not only the origins of covid 19, but what our government knew and what our government tried to cover up about their knowledge of covid. Chairman, last one, i want to switch to the trump trial that were seeing play out to the astonishment of many people that thought our system was unbiased, our our legal system, it it really represents what youve been trying to uncover and oversight about this two tiered justice system. You only got about 30s, but opine on that for us. Well look, if youre not a part of the ruling class, if youre trying to, go on the other side of the ruling class, then youre youre at risk of being, subject to court, weve got to weaponize court. This is all being led by Merrick Garland and the Democrat National committee. The American People are seeing this play out minute by minute during the trump trial. This is wrong. That trial needs to end. And we need to get back to Serious Business because weve got to repair our broken department of justice and really quick, one final question on voter ids, 81 of americans, according to the pew poll, the gallup poll had another one saying exactly the same thing. 81 of americans want a photo voter id before the election is, have you put anything on the table, anything on the floor demanding it before the election . Because i would love to know who would be against something that 81 of the people favor. Were trying to do that. I voted this morning. Its election day in kentucky, i voted i was the first one to my precinct at 6 a. M. I had to show a voter id, i didnt feel discriminated against, thats the way it should be in all 50 states. Well, if 81 of americans want it, they should have it, chairman james comer, thank you very much for being here. Appreciate it. And still ahead, former acting dhs secretary chad wolf, Senate Majority leader Chuck Schumer is teeing up a test vote for thursday on the much criticized Bipartisan Senate border package that collapsed back in february. Now, gop lawmakers say this is just an effort by senator schumer to make it look like democrats are serious about Border Security. Before the memorial day recess and try to place blame on republicans. Well talk to the former dhs secretary about that. But first, lets check in with our friends, jackie deangelis, who is in for dagen and sean to see what they have coming up in the next hour. Good to see you again. You as well david. Thank you. Yes so as impeached secretary of state mayorkas is on the hill today asking for more cash. Were going to have senator joni ernst talking to us about that as well as joe biden blames big business for inflation, but theyre lowering prices. John carney here to discuss further. Weve got Victor Hanson as well. 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Bis2 credit funding. Whats next . We viewed the world the same way. Im sure well have some disagreements, but you dont her uncles unhappy. Im sensing an underlying issue. Its tmobile. It started when we tried to get him under a new plan. But they they unexpectedly unraveled their price lock guarantee. Which has made him, a bit. Unruly. You called yourself the uncarrier. You sing about price lock on those commercials. the price lock, the price lock. so, if you could change the price, change the name its not a lock, i know a lock. So how can we undo the damage . We could all unsubscribe and switch to xfinity. Their connection is unreal. And we could all unexperience this whole session. Okay, thats uncalled for. The most advanced safe nonstick cookware. Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer is teeing up a test vote for thursday on the criticized Senate Border package. Thats thats basically the same one that collapsed in february in efforts to show that democrats are pushing for some kind of Border Security. But schumer doesnt have the support of his own party on this bill. All this as the border is a key issue for voters this year. Chad pergram is live on capitol hill with more on this. Hey, chad. David. Good afternoon. Democrats are trying to flip the script about the border. They want to remind voters the gop torched a bipartisan bill over the winter. Republicans believe democrats are trying to safeguard their majority. Chuck schumer is going to be in here trying to throw a hail mary pass to save his vulnerable democrats. The election is just a few months away. Many republicans backed away from the border talks after former President Trump weighed in. Democrats want to remind voters of mr. Trumps sway over the gop. But democrats are also trying to shield senators facing competitive reelection bids like bob casey in pennsylvania and Sherrod Brown in ohio. On the border issue, here are democrats vulnerable on that politically this fall . And is that one of the reasons youre doing this . Democrats are doing this because we believe in fixing the border, and we have the most the only real bipartisan bill negotiated by both sides with a real chance of passing and being put on the president s desk. President biden phoned both House Speaker mike johnson and Senate Minority leader Mitch Mcconnell this week. He implored them to work on Border Security that received a chilly reception. Well, my message to him was its too little, too late. He he should have taken executive action a long, long time ago. I said to him, what i just said to you a while ago, mr. President , you caused this problem. Now, a recent fox poll shows former President Trump leading mr. Biden by 15 points on the border issue. The vote on thursday needs 60 yays to break a filibuster. David the great chad pergram, thank you so much, chad. Appreciate it. And lets welcome to the show. Former acting dea, dhs secretary, another chad, chad wolf, good to see you again, chad, you know, you saw senator schumer with both fists in the air saying democrats want Border Security. I mean, really, after everything weve seen over the past three and a half years, does any voter believe that . Well, i dont think they do. And what i would say to the senator is you had h. R. Two on your desk for the last 11 months passed by the house, a very strong Border Security measure that codifies a lot of what worked during the Trump Administration and what worked during previous administrations. Hes had that on his desk. He can put it on the floor of the senate at any point over the last 11 months, and he has refused to do so. This idea that democrats and others want to now do something regarding Border Security, i think most americans are seeing right through that. Is there is there anything different with the revival of this bill that schumer is coming out with from , from the one that went down in flames . Well senate bill is a migrant bill, it continues to speed up processing of migrants into the country versus stopping that dangerous journey and allowing them to United States to begin with, and i think those are two important principles to keep in mind in difference between actual Border Security and what this administration wants to see. David we should mention that the senate bill was supported by Border Agents, a lot are trump people. So, what was that about . Why were Border Agents in favor of that schumer bill . I think it is important to urm remember that is the union, union represents a small minority of actual line agents, what is in bill, increases number of Border Agents and perhaps their pay, giving them more resources if are a line agent you are for that but i believe union was critical a number of measures in the bill did not go far enough, i dont want to peak for them, they were in support for hr2. David they were, i must say, i know a couple Border Agents who were openly supporting trump on fox, they are so overwhelmed now at the border, they want any kind of extra assistant to help. I want to switch to another issue. That the your old agency, now trying to stonewall, a lot of people trying to find out details about countries that current migrants particular the got aways are coming from, they have data they are not releasing, is this a coverup . Well, it is baffling, i understand some concerns about turning over information such as names and identifying data in countries. They should be doing is telling American People, as well as members of congress, here are how many individuals that are coming from afghanistan or syria or egypt or south america different areas in the world, i think that American People would like to understand and know that. I dont know that they are asking for an individual name associate country or more information, but i think most people want to understand where the individuals who are on the watch last, where they are coming from, how did they come here, i think the department has a responsibility to be away lit more transparent with the American People. David particularly when you have two illegal folks from jordan trying to breach quantico, k quantico the marine base of all places, chad wolf thank you so much. Thank you. David alist versus a. I. Battle, actress scarlet johansenn accusing open a. I. Of stealing her voice for the sky. Even after she refused a licensing offer from the ceo, what up with that, Kara Frederick will break it down for us next on the evening edit. ella fashion moves fast. jen so we partner with verizon to take our operations to the next level. marquis with a custom private 5g network. ella we get more control of production, efficiencies, and greater agility. jen thats enterprise intelligence. vo its your vision, its your verizon. David alist celebrity Scarlett Johansson claims what open a. I. Stole her voice, her lawyers demand answers. Saying that chat gpt maker copied it for sky. After she refused a licensing offer from the ceo, susan lee is in new york with the latest. Reporter we live in a new era of a. I. , that means well get more of these type of battles over likeness and intellectual property. Who owns and owes what, this time it is Scarlett Johansson now lawyered up and said she is reviewing her options over chat gpt that she said sounds a lot like her, she started in the film of voice in the a. I. ScScarlett Johansson said in september he received an offer from sam altman who wanted to hire me for the chat gpt system. I declined that offer when i heard release demo, i was shocked, angered and disbelief that mr. S altman would pursue a voice that sounded so similar to mine, i got in touch with sam altman and said that the voice of sky is not Scarlett Johanssons and never intended to sound like hers, i will let you disietd. Decide. I saw in your emails you had gone through a break up. You are nosey. Am i . Listen to open a. I. I want you to tell me a bedtime story about robots and love. Oh. A bedtime story about robots and love . I got you covered. Once upon a time in a world not too different from ours there was a robot named reporter this is a different actress that open a. I. Used and open a. I. Have now pulled it from their program out of respect for Scarlett Johansson. All right, susan lee thank you. For more on Scarlett Johanssons battle with a. I. We welcome hai Kara Frederick. To me, it doesnt sound like the same voice, it sounds similar but not like a deep fake, but the point is you cant be sure with a. I. , whether it is, how do you prove it is not or is . That is difficult. This is as susan said this problem will get worse before it gets better, we know that emerging technology exists like microsoft big contributor to open a. I. Has volley, that is a synthetic monothat can clone a voice with a 3 second voice sample of chief Technology Officer of open a. I. Has been squirrely about how they train their data, my solution open everything up, trans transparency, you open source,. On other hand were in ally tunnellous society. Litigious society we have been for years, there will be a lot of lawsuit based on this some may be justified. There are scary elements to a. I. A lot will not be real, are we having a court to find out who is really and who is not like fingerprints. We can do a lot in the technical and design phase to mitigate some of the issues, the lawyers will get paid. I am sure a lot are licking their chops over this there will be so many issues like in New York Times lawsuit vfversus open a. I. The the solution remains, open source so all tools, a. I. Models make sure that a. I. Is transparent ex and explain able. You dont have to go retro actively sue, keep everything on open. David lawyers will make out like bandits, so are politicians. I think there are guardrails that are necessary. Dont steve innovation, make sure the new entrances have a fair shot at this and everything goes according to plan, america will be the better for it. David a light touch inside belt way dont go together that is an oxymoron, i dont have a lot of faith in washington figure its out, Kara Frederick, i have faith in you thank you. Were trying. David join us tomorrow senator marsh marsha blackburn, i am david asman in for elizabeth macdonald, thank you for watching the evening edit on fox business, now time for the bottom line with jackie and sean. Jackie thank you, david, great to see you. Ed david good to see you. He is a warrina