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decision and may wait -- >> brian: wilbur to host is a big deal. >> steve: i had asked youngkin about an axios story, these are big donors in the hamptons this weekend. ron desantis was way up there and has stalled out right now, maybe big donors think, what is plan b? could be that guy. >> ainsley: he is presidential and listens to voters and inner pas and he won in virginia. he has a lot of experience in business, successful with the carlisle group. >> brian: this is like the 20th time we've done this story, remaking kamala harris again. we're going to redefine her role again. if you don't like kamala harris because you don't like women and you don't like minority, the