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that testimony is very important, because even if hunter somehow where to prevail on the second amendment claim, that would basically affect the charges against him for illegally possessing the weapon. but it doesn't help them with the false statements on the farm and the false statement to the federal firearms dealer. that is 15 years of statutory liability just in those those 2 counts. >> john: on the trial continues this afternoon in delaware. we will be requiring our presence in the days ahead. we thank you, sir. speak to the needs truckers more than ever. is he about to become one? wait for it. he is live inside an 18-wheeler at the driving academy in pennsylvania. looking good. >> it could be very scary. if i may answer the truckers shortage, they are teaching you how to back up. maybe soon, they will teach me