On this just moments ago. Listen here. And the president has said he wished he didnt call this the Inflation Reduction Act. What should you call it . Well, he said following that sentiment because i think its a complicated bill that it also has reduced costs and i think its very important to note that both on healthcare and as i noted on the energy side we have already seen costs coming down. John are they . I mean, gas is nearly four bucks a gallon again. Gillian home prices are up. John are americans really feeling any relief as john suggests they are . Im john roberts. Good to spend another hour with you. Gillian you as well, john. Gillian turner in for sandra. Trying to narrow Donald Trumps polling lead. John only one clear frontrunner and that is the former president. Florida Governor Ron Desantis and tim scott are the two main contenders for the top spot. Gillian the majority of Republican Voters agree trump is in the best position to beat trump in the general, 28 are arguing for ron desantis. One week away from the very first republican debate. Lets get right to peter doocy, he joins us from the north lawn of the white house. Peter, are folks buying the president s economic agenda . Just about every Economist Writing about the Inflation Reduction Act today is saying the reason that inflation has come down at all over the course of the last 12 months is because the cost of energy has come down over the last 12 months. Not because of the ira. If inflation remains 0, he will hold the record of the century for the most inflation any president has in america. They are trying to take credit for the disastrous economy they are solely responsible for. And big time buyers remorse. Senator joe manchin was there on the stage for the signing, you see him screen left. His vote was critical for passing the bill but today he says Going Forward i will push back on those who seek to undermine this significant legislation for their respective political agenda and that begins with my unrelenting fight against the Biden Administrations efforts to implement the iras a radical Climate Change agenda instead of implementing the ira passed into law. White house officials did let it slip the largest Government Investment in climate ever but a year later it is costing roughly a third more for climate than advertised. More than a trillion dollars. We are talking about a the biggest, largest Climate Action investment ever as we were just talking about whats going on in maui and the extreme weather. These are all incredibly important things here. And listening to the White House Briefing with some administration officials, they talk about costs coming down a little but the climate part of this a lot. So expect to hear President Biden really lean in on that aspect of it. Even though theres no climate in the title. Gillian. Gillian all right, peter doocy from 1600 pennsylvania avenue. Thank you. John. John a catholic couple says they were shocked when they learned why their application to be foster parents was denied. After enduring hours of interviews, the couple says the State Of Massachusetts blocked their application over their religious beliefs on lgbtq issues. And now they are taking the complaint to the courts in a brandnew lawsuit. Our next guest wrote about it in his latest piece. Bill mcgurn, so we are talking about michael and kitty burke, 1 of 1. 4 million catholics in massachusetts, they were denied the application to be foster or adoptive parents, because their beliefs are insufficiently progressive. The home study showed they passed in flying colors, take children of different race, ethnicity, all sorts of things. They were even willing to take in siblings. But the study noted that they were not supportive of the the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, ethos, and therefore they would not be supportive. So because they were not supportive they were denied a child. Gillian thats right. John spoke with his guest last hour a little bit, bill, about how the stats show, and they are contested, that about one in every 10 lgbtqia plus child is abused at the hands of their own parents. So, give or take the accuracy of that. Its hard to see an Adoption Agency risking the physical wellbeing of a child that they are putting into a couples care. You know, the whole point of this, reduce risk to the children. Because of their religion . Does do the stats show that catholics are more incline to abuse their children . I the home study showed that they were very loving parents. Gillian my point, bill, if you dont mind, they have to have a policy so the policy is that if parents are against lgbtia people and believe they are sinners, its probably not safe to entrust lgbtia children in their care, or its more risky. I think thats a real stretch. You are implying because they dont believe in the sexual ethic of the dominant culture they are going to be lousy parents and be abusive parents. Gillian i didnt imply that. Well, thats what it says, if you think you are going to deny them because these people are likely to be a greater risk of abusing their kids, thats against First Amendment discrimination. I think they are going to win in court. I dont think its going to even be close. You know, back when another one decided, sam alito said the problem with the Majority Opinion doing it by the courts rather than the democratic work of the people, the problem with that is that they ostracize critics of samesex marriage, held as bigots and alito said it would not be a live and let live philosophy. There is one philosophy and if you are not part of it you are going to be canceled and thats what the burkes are counting on. John in fact, you quoted from oberg v hodges, samuel alito said, it will be used to vilify americans unwilling to assent to the now orthodoxy. Implications of the analogy, and simply meant states could not deny Marriage Licenses to samesex couples. Alito said its a cautionary tale, this is about that but expanded to cover other things and you believe the burkes get caught up in that . They do. And i think there are two Different Cases alito is involved. That is one and dobbs is one. I think dobbs is the right decision, returns it to the democratic process. All these predictions that abortion would be snuffed out and so forth. It wasnt. There are a lot of compromises and give and take because we have returned it to them, the democratic process. We have not done that with gay marriage and so forth and i think it creates all or nothing situations and doesnt leave people free to live by their own beliefs and run their own institutions because of those beliefs. They are ostracized, they were denied the right to have a family. John see how the case progresses in the commonwealth of massachusetts. Bill, good to have you on today to expand on your views. Gillian the hawaii wildfires are the deadliest in modern u. S. History. 106 people in maui are now confirmed deceased, hundreds more, possibly even 1,000, remain still missing. This as Search And Rescue crews are sifting through the devastation. William joins us from the island of maui. Hi, william. Good morning, you know, the search for victims and for answers continues today here in lahaina. But the survivors we spoke to, they are actually assessing their lives and their future. Very hard to see this. All my life, is all gone, in a minute. Not just me lost everything everybody. Everything is gone. This is the absolute worst disaster ive ever seen. Just the carnage, everything is burned. People had no time to get out of the way. Cadaver dogs and 100 Recovery Workers again are sifting through the ashes looking for jewelry or bones and teeth. Any soft tissue that pathologists can draw a dna sample. So far, they have obtained dna from 14 victims and 43 relatives who gave a swab because they believe they lost someone in the fire. I share 50 dna with my parents, with my brother. I share 25 dna with my aunt or uncle. So which taking a relative sample as a reference, running it against a sample from remains, we can look at the level of relatedness and identify the sample in that manner. And video from this man shows, appears to show downed power lines outside his house ignited the lahaina fire. Ok, so while the state is scrambling to find some temporary housing, hotels and condos, we found two guys who are actually found refuge in vans that were donated by a maui tour company. Ok, so listen President Biden is likely going to show up here on monday. The governor said yesterday he was going to stop any predatory developers from buying this land in lahaina using private attorneys and State Attorneys to prevent that from happening. John President Biden set to tout the Inflation Reduction Act one year after he admitted it was the not the most accurate name for the bill. Seth and Judy Standing by to talk about this. Gillian a small town in minnesota in a tough spot now after the entire Police Force Quit. 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Its one of many small towns that is now facing a major cop shortage. Garrett tenney joins us from the midwest newsroom with all the details. Whats your understanding as to why these officers quit . Well, a big part is money. There are so few people willing to be cops and cities of all sizes are desperate to have more officers. So the large cities can afford to pay cops more are scooping up a lot of the officers from smaller towns that just dont pay as well. Thats what happened in the small town of goodhue, minnesota, when all seven of its officers sent in their letters of resignation last week. Several trading in their 22 an hour jobs to join other departments nearby paying as much as 40 to 50 an hour and offering better hours to go with it. We were all a little bit blindsided by it. But we are resilient, and we are going to move forward. So but it is hard. The resignations should not come as much of a shock. The police chief warned officials that the small town policing they were used to would disappear if they didnt act. This has been three weeks now, is he row 0 applicants, nobody getting into the game. If you want to keep the p. D. Something needs to change dramatically and drastically and has to happen now. Similar scenarios in small towns across the country. Last month in warner, oklahoma, population 1500, the five stepped down under paid and overworked, and in missouri, nine officers resigned after a mayor was elected. County sheriff steps in to help fill the void and thats what the mayor of goodhue is meeting with the sheriff about. But its not the same, given a lot of sheriffs departments are also facing a lot of these same challenges with the shortage of officers. Gillian. Gillian Garrett Tenney in the chicago newsroom, thank you. John. John a live look at the white house where President Biden is about to mark the First Anniversary of his signature Inflation Reduction Act. But it was just last week when the president admitted that the Inflation Reduction Act had less to do with inflation than he originally boasted about at the time. Even the Mainstream Media suggesting that the bill is more about climate than lowering everyday prices. Lets bring in our economic panel, seth harris, former Acting Labor Secretary under President Biden and judy shelton is a former trump economic adviser and we should say welcome to both of you. You have not been on the program before. Good to have you. Seth, let me start with you if i could. President at every turn touts the benefits of bidenomics. But if its so good, why are so many hurting and why are the president s Approval Ratings so low . Well, we have to see how people react to the newest numbers. Inflation is down, jobs are being created at a steady, moderate pace. We are seeing workers wages rising faster than inflation. Unemployment at very, very low levels. A lot of people are still recovering from the shock of the pandemic. Recession, and also recovering from fairly high inflation, which has come down quite dramatically. So, i think there is still some unhappiness, uncertainty in the American Economy but workers are doing better than they have done in Something Like 50 years, and my hope is that we are going to see that continue even with the Federal Reserve raising Interest Rates and slowing the economy down. John judy, lets get you to take that on. True in the month of june wage growth was outpacing inflation, was 4. 7 year over year, june to june, and inflation was down to 3 in the month of june. But, for the previous ten months inflation had been running well ahead in many cases of wage growth. So workers were going backwards for the better part of a year. Thats right. And those losses and Purchasing Power can never be recovered. That is a sum cost and i think what americans sense is that the inflation is really because the government overspends. When you have the government making fiscal Transfer Payments as they did during covid and then indulging in excessive spending represented by the socalled Inflation Reduction Act, i think they realize thats whats driving the inflation. And so then you have this Odd Situation where what we would always call fiscal stimulus, when government spends more than it takes in, fighting against a Monetary Policy that is contractionary, so raising Interest Rates while the private sector takes a direct hit when you raise the cost of capital but the government can borrow whatever it takes to get the money it needs to engage in Deficit Financing for its own pet projects. John and call for number four here, still borrowing at a phenomenal rate. 1. 6 trillion in deficit in the first ten months of fiscal year 23, 5. 3 billion a day. Fiscal year 23 deficit, 131 of where it was in fiscal year 22. So, seth, the president touting the oneyear anniversary of the Inflation Reduction Act, yes, inflation is down, no the Inflation Reduction Act does not deserve the credit. And one says i cant think of any mechanism it would have brought down inflation to date. And another with strong confidence mostly other factors that have brought inflation down. So, why is the president celebrating this afternoon . Well, because we are in the midst of an epic Climate Change crisis right now, john. And the Inflation Reduction Act represents the single largest investment in fighting Climate Change in the history of our planet. John so it wasnt about inflation. Well, it was in part about inflation. It does have the effect of bringing down costs, for example, medicare recipients are going to have lower Prescription Drug costs, a lot of peoples Healthcare Costs are goi