House speaker Kevin Mccarthy fighting to stay in power. Florida republican congressman matt gaetz pushing to oust him after less than a year in charge. Hello, im john roberts, welcome to you on this historic tuesday. A lot going on behind us. Im Aishah Hasnie in for sandra smith. Matt gaetz filed the motion to vacate the chair, could force a new vote as early as 1 30 today for House Speaker if mccarthys allies are not able to save him. John the florida congressman says the recent spending battle and ongoing aid to ukraine says he is not representing republican interest in the house. And if he can convince enough gop members for the motion, he will be forced to rely on democrats. Aishah juan and chris are standing by, but first, off to capitol hill where senior Congressional Correspondent chad pergram is live with the latest. So, what are you hearing, where are the democrats at right now . Good afternoon, aishah. When asked if he would still be speaking, Kevin Mccarthy said yes but concedes he loses if five gop members vote against him. Its about the math. Tell me why you are so confident. I live in america. But this is a serious it is a serious question. Ok, take the Current Situation out. Have you ever come to me on no matter what you thought i could not solve that i wasnt confident . Matt gaetz intends to force the house to consider his effort to dethrown mccarthy. Some republicans are seething at gaetz for trying to oust the speaker. Mccarthy loyalists are closing ranks. My message is we would not have republicans, would not have the majority today if it wasnt for speaker Kevin Mccarthy. And the irony of this whole motion to vacate is that the sponsor of the motion to vacate is the one who is working with the democrats. Democrats are not going to salvage Kevin Mccarthy. One democrat said their job is not to boost a gop speaker. Even if Kevin Mccarthy were to say he would do something, theres not a whole lot of trust that hell live up to whatever he commits to. I think our decision, which will be caucus conversation which will lead to it will be based more on, you know, what we think is the right path forward. The vote next hour is to block gaetzs motion to demand a new vote for speaker. If the house euthanizes the effort, gig is up for gaetz. If the house fails to block gaetz, it then votes if there should be a new Speaker Election. Aishah. Aishah chad pergram live on the hill. Keep us posted if you see anything change. John the panel, juan williams, and chris bedford, not surprising that gaetz would introduce this motion to vacate the chair. Hes the one who pushed it when mccarthy was negotiating with republicans to become speaker. He wanted to bring it back to its historic one vote to introduce a motion. It really seems like with gaetz and mccarthy, chris, its a personality thing. It is a personality. Those two have been fighting separate from the broader fights in the House Of Representatives. Gaetz is not part of the conservative movement, he is pretty well attached to the maga Activist Base that is out there in the gop. You dont see him at the closed door meetings, dont see his staff working with folks like chip roys staff, and a lot of frustration among republicans, moderate republicans, and conservative republicans with the speaker and at the end of the day, the ceo will take the blame if the company doesnt do well. Broadly speaking, the frustration of mccarthy, people dont understand why gaetz is making the move, what he stands to gain, except in broader politics and the activists to work with. Aishah 45 days to pass a budget, and now talking about a speakership battle. Both these men need democrats to survive. Matt gaetz needs more than mccarthy, i think he has 200 republicans behind him. We are hearing from a source on background that democrats are very unified in perhaps voting to kick mccarthy out today, they are not going to vote present, they will vote to kick him out. Is that a smart move for leader jeffries, in the middle of budget talks, trying to pass a budget. Well, you know, remember, what happened last weekend in order to keep the government open was that you had, you know, a majority of democrats who were necessary to Support Mccarthy in order to keep the government functional, to pay the troops and keep the irs collecting taxes. Thats pretty basic. So now you have a situation where the democrats are saying wait a minute, if we are the middle and if we are the ones who are actually the stable force to keep government, why are we obligated to support Kevin Mccarthy . I am of a mind that you Want Congress to work. So im saying well, you know, democrats consider your role here because things are getting shakey up there. Right now it looks like, you know, chris and i were talking before, looks like high school. It looks like, you know, like a bunch of kids just acting out. And you want things to settle down. But democrats from a purely political perspective, and Speaker Mccarthy said this today in a press conference, he says he understands politics. He understands the power game. And democrats looking at the power game saying wait a second, why are democrats required to again bail out a republican speaker, even if he is being dominated by that maga wing, its his task to figure it out and pelosi figured it out with the squad, right. So, thats what hes got to do and i heard congressman kilde, said nobody trusts Kevin Mccarthy. Thats coming from a democrat. But i think the republicans also feel they dont trust Kevin Mccarthy. John you are such an Old Fashioned traditional, you Want Congress to work. Juan, its washington, 2023. So, you wonder what the consequences are for mccarthy, will he survive, and then if it goes to a vote for speaker might he get reelected. And matt gaetz, some are calling for his ouster because of an ethics investigation, one said no one can stand him at this point, a smart guy without morals and mccarthy insists he will survive any vote to vacate. Listen to what he said. Are you confident that youll hold on . Im confident ill hold on. It seems very personal with matt. It doesnt look like hes looking out for the country or the institution. John when The Speakership went to 575 votes, a lot of people thought mccarthy will never make it but said no, im going to be speaker at the end of this, he was right back then, is he now . And they opened up an ethics campaign, reopened it against gaetz. The doj decided they didnt have anything to charge him with on that. That doesnt always mean anything. Remember Senator Menendez was let off by a hung jury and the Ethics Committee found him severely lacking and embarrassed the senate. The same thing could happen to gaetz and that is possible. His future idea, his eyes on the primary for the governor of florida and thinks he might be able to differentiate himself from competition, but your point, the reason why gaetz is able to get allies who are going to help him from the republican side, is because congress does not work. I think it was the late 90s the late time they passed a budget with appropriations. John the good old days. They have lost the Muscle Memory and surrendered to the Executive Branch and the courts and republicans are angry and did not see mccarthy as the person able to bring that back. Aishah there is an ideological Civil War In The House gop conference, if not across america within the republican party. And donald trump is a part of this because he keeps sort of meddling in congressional affairs. I want to ask both of you, though, about this. Who wins at the end of this . Because matt gaetzs grievances are real. He has some fair grievances in terms of not getting a budget done, the promises that Speaker Mccarthy made but the end of the day, Speaker Mccarthy and leader mcconnell are the old guard that believe we shouldnt be shutting down a government. If we cant get our work done, its on us. We shouldnt put it on federal workers. Who is right and where does the gop go . Muscle memory in the congress and the senate, all they know how to do is pass omnibuses and occasionally tax cuts and fund the military. Muscle memory for actually governing as a congress is completely lost. And its going to be a painful experience. Even if they got Mccarthy To Pass Appropriations and push them through, Mitch Mcconnell and Chuck Schumer have not shown interest to do it in the senate. Its a slow stepbystep movement and a painful one for the country to get congress and the senate to relearn like with Physical Therapy to actually govern. The thing that strikes me is we used to have a sense that people could talk to each other. John there you go again. I know, im an old timer. But talk across the aisle. I think the longest serving speaker, tip oneill, Ronald Reagan used to talk all the time, two old irish guys with a drink and work things out. John gingrinch and clinton. And they shut down the government a couple times, reagan. They did, but they were working at it. You and i have different political views but we talk. And we can work it out. Now, i think these guys, you talked about who wins at the end of the day, you know what i think a lot of people, this may come across as harsh, but a lot of these people are performance artists. They are there to create chaos. They delight in the fact that its not working. They want government not to work and they think its to their political advantage Going Forward whether it gets them a job on cable tv, or the nomination for governor of florida, i think thats their i dont think working government as much as john roberts like to deride me as an old man, its not their goal. John because im there with you. See which way this goes. Dont go anywhere. Aishah former President Trump says he will take the stand at the Civil Fraud Trial against him in new york city. Trump and his organization are accused of vastly inflating Property Values of his real estate empire. He says its a political hit job. But first, nate foy live outside the courthouse in manhattan. What happened in court today . Well, aishah, former President Trump has spoken three times today, right now the court is in recess for lunch. Theyll pick back up for the Afternoon Session at 2 15. But hes been especially critical of new York Attorney general Letitia James and hear what he said moments ago in one second. But first, to answer your question, what happened in court today, the morning session began with the judge explaining Appellate Court decision from june regarding the statute of limitations and essentially what the judge explained, the state could continue questioning a man named donald bender, former President Trumps old accountant, in regards to Financial Statements and transactions that happened back in 2011, but only if the state connects it to alleged crimes that happened after 2014 or in some cases after 2016. I mentioned former President Trump has been extremely critical of Attorney General james, take a listen to him moments ago. We have to expose her as that you see whats going on. Its a rigged deal. So you heard it there, he calls it a rigged deal. Attorney general james accuses trump of falsely in flating his net worth and deceiving banks. She put out a video saying she fundamentally disagrees with trumps interpretation of the statute of limitations in this case. This is a nojury trial, the judge has full discretion. Trumps team put out a statement saying they never had the option of a jury trial. Fox news is working to confirm that. The former president also defended the valuation of his properties posting on truth social in part, judge engoron has been given false information about my net worth, such as maralago, 18 million, it would be closer to 1. 5 billion. And back out here live, aishah, lunch break is expected to end at 2 15 when court will resume. We heard former President Trump speak four times yesterday, and today he spoke three times. Aishah thank you, nate. Meantime, we are just getting in some Breaking News as i mentioned earlier in the panel, we had a source telling us that leader Hakeem Jeffries of the Democratic Caucus was going to tell his caucus to vote to oust Speaker Mccarthy in this upcoming vote and we have now confirmed it. The leader releasing a statement saying that yes, he has told his caucus to vote yes on a motion to vacate the chair. So, we could be headed for another 15 rounds, possibly, of looking for a House Speaker. John this could be a redux of january 2023 all over again, all those votes. And mccarthy finally got confirmed as chair, so this is a historic day. The last time there was a vote like this to vacate the chair was in 1910, joseph canon, for whom the Canon Building is named. He survived that, dont know if mccarthy will or not. If the democrats all decide that they are going to vote to vacate the chair, he may be in his last minutes as speaker of the house. Aishah and leads to the question and trying to ask the question on the hill for a while now, who is the backup . Who is the person that replaces mccarthy if he cannot keep this speakers gavel. Theres been some talk about perhaps emmers, steve scalise, he is behind mccarthy and trying to keep him, but says a lot about the rule, the promise Speaker Mccarthy made to even get the gavel in the first place, what he signed up for and here we are. John scalise has some health problems, hes treated for multiple myeloma, i dont know how that might fit into plans to put his name forward for speaker. Tom emmers might be the one when rises. We dont know, a, how the vote will go. Though if the entire if the entire Democratic Caucus is behind the move to oust mccarthy, its possible that he may go. Did i just hear trump is walking out of court . Ok. Apparently he didnt talk, which is unusual for him in terms of this court case as nate was mentioning a moment ago. He talked going into court. Aishah bringing the Campaign Trail to the courtroom. John historic day today, see how it all unfolds. Aishah still to come. 48hour moment, you realize its going to be tough. You start thinking the worst. But what happened was extraordinary. John 48hour manhunt having a happy outcome as Police Safely rescue 9yearold Charlotte Sena from her expected kidnapper. How were investigators able to locate her so quickly . Aishah we will dig into that. And also this, hunter biden pleading not guilty in Federal Court. Fox news legal editor Kerri Kupec Urbahn was in the courtroom for the proceedings. She is here to break it all down, whats next. Ay everyone, n is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. Yay woo hoo ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health. And ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. This is Spring Semester at fairfieldsuisun unified. 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