Everyone. I am judge Jeanine Pirro along with harold ford jr. , jesse watters, dana perino, and greg gutfeld. It is 5 00 in new york city, and this is the five. a a fox news alert. Hundreds reportedly dead after an explosion at a hospital in gaza. Israel pushing back after hamas claimed the carnage was caused by an israeli airstrike. Brandnew video showing the chaotic scene outside the hospital where up to 500 people are feared dead. Israeli Prime Minister netanyahu is reacting and saying the entire world should know it was barbaric. Terrorists in gaza that attacked a hospital in gaza and not the idf. Those who brutally murdered our children also murdered their own children. Mike tobin is in southern israel with the latest on that developing situation. Mike . Reporter what we are hearing, it was Palestinian Islamic jihad that was going to go over the hospital there. One of those rockets, at least one of them was errant, struck in the facility of the hospital, causing the explosion and hundreds of civilian casualties. Again, that is from the idf. And here is an explanation or at least a version from an adviser to Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu. Israel does not target places like hospitals and we wouldnt have deliberately hit. Number two, we know that at the time of this tragedy, that hamas was firing a barrage of rockets, up to a third of rockets fired at gaza, inside the gaza strip because they malfunctioned. It is possible that this was one of those rockets that malfunctioned. Mike The Arab World was quick to blame the israelis. In the gaza strip, the Palestinian Health ministry run by hamas said it was an israeli airstrike. We have seen demonstrations form up in the west bank. Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas dropped out of his planned meeting with President Biden for tomorrow in protest over this explosion at the hospital. Judge . Jeanine have you heard anything, mike, about the misfires . I mean, previous misfires before today . Mike there have been multiple misfires. These rockets, a lot of them are just made of Machine Shells in the gaza strip. They have misfired in the past. They have hit civilians. Theres one case where an infant was killed by one of these errant rockets in the past and the palestinians have always been quick to blame israel. It takes a while for the facts to come out as it did in this case from the israeli side. Jeanine all right. We will go around the table. Harold . Harold mike, thank you for your great reporting. Has there been any comment from the Biden Administration . I know the meeting has been canceled. But has the president or blinken, anybody responded . And two, have there been any reaction from other arab leaders about meeting with President Biden going this Upcoming Trip . Mike bill, you have heard a lot of protest and anger come the surrounding arab states. You get a lot of Anger Galvanizing and unifying the surrounding arab states. That is happening all the way to turkey. As far as what is happening in washington, i really am buried in stuff, congressman. I dont know what is happening. Harold be safe. Jeanine jesse . Jesse does the idf have any technology that they can show to the world that proves in terms of surveillance that this missile did not come from israel, that it actually was a missile from terrorists in gaza . Mike well, the drones are up. I can hear the drones. They are always surveying the gaza strip and the area of combat. Israel has air superiority. They dont have any reason to take the drones down other than weather. Theres also, theres an al jazeera broadcast that is going around on the internet. They claim at least through social media that it shows that moment of impact, the moment the jihad rocket hit the hospital. But not verified, jesse. Jeanine all right. Dana . Dana you said that the gaza Health Ministry is run by hamas. And hamas runs the hospital. Hamas hides their weapon inside the hospital. It is a little bit along the lines of what jesse just said, which is when Something Like this happens and theres an Immediate Reaction. Some major Media Organizations said that this was israels fault. How do you go about on the ground there as a reporter to try to get to the truth . What is the best way if we know that hamas runs the Health Ministry and runs the hospital . Mike well, gaza is very difficult right now. It is difficult to communicate with gaza and your convicts have all fled south. Some of them dont have their phones working. Any information on gaza is difficult. We get through hamas sources, know that they are playing the pr game. It is a very important component of their strategy. So you have to dig out everything you receive. The israelis were a little slower to respond because they wanted to do some analysis of the facts first. So it took a little while to get the version from israel where the arab reaction was immediate. While the israelis took us a moment to do some analysis. We will see if we get more data going forward, more evidence, more proof going forward, but right now, the idf says it was indeed an errant rocket from palestinians like jihad, not hamas. Greg hey, mike, it is greg. We know that hamas strategy is to maximize civilian deaths, sometimes especially their own to galvanize the blow. Israels strategy is opposite of that. They dont try to hit any civilians. And yet, after every one of these things, there always seems to be the outrage always builds towards israel no matter what happens, especially in the western media. Do you know why . Mike well, that goes back a long time, it goes back to the event that the palestinians called the nakba when the state of israel was formed and palestinians claimed that they were run off their land. There has always been unity and theres always been anger against israel and you always see the not only the arab states but the media will be quick to reach a conclusion against israel and you have the fact that israel was conducting unprecedented airstrikes into the gaza strip. It is not a surprise that the first conclusion that people would jump to would be that it was israel. But you also have deadly rockets being fired out by the palestinians all the time and they are not goodquality weapons. Jeanine okay, mike, thanks so much. And we will to get around the table for a few minutes. You know, jesse, there is video floating around. You asked a question about whether or not there was any way to identify. But theres video floating around that has not yet been certified or confirmed proving that it is palestinian. They say, you see a massive barrage fired on israel and a few seconds later, theres an explosion on the left in a direction opposite where all the other missiles are going. It may be as simple as a video that can show what has happened here. Jesse israel should be vigilant to win this war in the press because the press has a lot of effect around what the Israeli Military is going to be able to do because they are going to be under so much pressure to go in on the ground and go in quickly when it is not an easy job when you deal with tunnels. This strike obviously complicates the biden visit. He did not expect this to happen. Now he is going down a day later after 200 civilians are allegedly dead. And theres an Information Warfare situation that he needs to get out there and say, if i were the president , i would be very clear that you cannot believe what you hear from the palestinians. You cannot believe what you hear from hamas. They are traditionally deceptive. And they are even denying some of the things that they did to these children. And to these women. So if i were israel, i would just be flooding the zone with as many facts and as many exhibits to prove that what they were doing was righteous and what they are doing is a surgical because this is tough. This is no one likes to see people die in a hospital like that. Jeanine and you know, dana, given that there they are historically known for putting themselves and putting situations where theyre going to be targeted near a hospital, this is kind of consistent with their game plan. Dana it is. One thing that i was thinking that is different from years past is the technology that civilians have. Or event that the terrorists the have, the tears had their phones and their gopro cameras because they wanted us to see the terror that they were creating an a situation like this, even a few years ago, would have taken maybe days to figure out, was it an errant rocket . Here we are just some years mere hours later with different video and different set of facts and different angles of the videos so that israel which has a pr work that it needs to wage as well in order to protect itself from attack that is the one who causes a civilian harm or humanitarian crisis. Theres some real benefit to having this immediate viewpoint. It is a strange way to do work at right now. So now hamas has decided to those that innocents are the ones who will be targeted. Now we have the Video Evidence that we can use immediately to see as of journalists, that is why i asked mike, how on the ground are they figuring it out . It is chaotic, but within hours, we were able to figure this out. Jeanine yeah. Greg . Greg im surprised that hamas i would assume that they were denied hitting a hospital because that is where they keep their command centers. That would have been my excuse. But i think the pr war is pointless. Because if this has been going on forever and the media continues just to jump to the same conclusions, and i mean, Everybody Knows what hamas does. Their whole points to maximize civilian casualties, to create a global discussed about the jews. I think at this point, you try to win. And the pr stuff that is secondary. Jesse i think it is a secondary, but it is definitely a component when youre dealing with a lot of disingenuous people from the press. Jeanine and isnt it important to do this now if they are worried that the idf is going for them . President biden a few days ago encourage the israeli person to follow the law. What i saw from the israelis is what you would want to see from a democracy with you. To see. They refrained from speaking too quickly. They investigated. They got the facts. And laid out and we likely will get video, the video that we have seen and others may have seen. We may see this video later in the evening. Proving that this was not an israeli strike. The israelis do this dont do this. Answer netanyahu has repeated. This incident is tragic. We should all acknowledge the tragedy and two, it will further isolate hamas and further isolate iran and i agree with some of many around the table, the media and some in the media have gone. But the fact that hamas Immediate Reaction has always been to blame israelis but it is for everyone to see what is it is tragic what is happening and what has happened. But the israelis did not do it and isolating iran and isolating hamas has to be at the forefront of what we try to get on here. Jeanine all right. Up next, President Biden on a highstakes trip to israel as the war rages on. Let me be direct. Youre watching football wrong what do you call a guy in face paint that cant get the game . A clown sorry, what app was it again . No, no. Just give me a second. Amateurs. Ohhh sorry, everybody. Directv sports central gives you access to every game so you never have to compromise on gameday. 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We make money from ads, but they dont follow you around. Join the millions of people taking back their privacy by Downloading Duckduckgo On Mobile and desktop today. a a greg President Biden leaving for a highstakes trip to israel. Ahead of potential Israeli Ground offensive to destroy hamas. The president will be meeting with Prime Minister netanyahu as he looks to send a warning to iran. John roberts is in jerusalem with more on that trip. How are you doing, john . Reporter im doing good, greg. Early in the morning here. But the war continues and the meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu is going to be more challenging with the way in that hospital in gaza with arab nations, putting the blame on israel, even the United Nations is doing that. So President Biden has got challenges ahead of him tomorrow and meantime, you know, israel is still trying to wrap its head about what happened a week ago saturday. We would talk with a fellow today who has gone through an experience that he never thought that he would and any time there was a Suicide Bombing in the past, israel or some sort of terrorist attack, he would see a group of people in green vest who would come out to collect the bodies of those who have been killed because according to jewish tradition, bodies must be buried. And sometimes they had to pick up these bodies and pieces to try to put them back together again. Yasi landau he was at the [indistinct] on saturday morning and described for us some of the carnage that he saw here. I have to warn you, this is difficult to listen to. I would say even though it is very hard for me, i saw it and i was there. A person was lying on the floor. They turned her over. The stomach was butchered open. She had the baby, the infant, the unborn infant still connected to with the cord. Stabbed. She was shot in the back. John this is a man who has been theres been doing this for 30 years. He was in the World Trade Center in 2001. Now he was in israel for this. Clearly he got very, very emotional as we were talking to him and he says that there are some things in life that you can never and the carnage that he experienced is something that he will never be able to and see unsee. Greg thanks, john. Or greg. I got lost. President biden is going to go there to address the humanitarian situation but how can you address a humanitarian situation when the response of the enemy is the opposite of dana i think it is bold and probably a good idea. Arbiter about a couple things. There are american hostages. We need to talk about that. And Jacqui Heinrich tweeted that a Ground Maneuver has been postponed and it is estimated that they are waiting for the end of the u. S. President bidens visit. Idf officials criticized the postponement and it plays to prepare better. And so the other thing is, what john was saying that the meeting with netanyahu make it more difficult because what happened in the hospital, i think it is easier because yes, so abbas canceled the meeting with biden. I think you cant cancel the i cancel it with you because you need to be out there and telling your people exactly what is happening instead of allowing this lie to pictured perpetuate. Lets force them to be honest. Greg speaking of, screw the u. N. , judge. Jeanine i agree. And they ought to get out of new york, too. Dana, you are right. It is a bold move for the president to go. I look i say it is going, it seems very out of character. First of all, he is slowing the israeli army armys ability to respond by the simple fact that he is there. And that delays everything. And that delay is not just about the war. It is about the hostages. My understanding from the source in the idf who says to me that biden wants the israels detailed war plan after lincoln had a 7 1 2hour meeting yesterday on what the israeli war plan is. Now, why does biden need to know why does biden go in there and say he wants to know the targets, work with the infantry is directed . And my source that tells me the guy has never been in a war because the First Casualty of every war is the war plan itself. And for a person to come in and say, i want to know what youre going to do, well, it is really not really his concern at this point back. The third thing is he wants to make sure that humanitarian aid goes to the palestinians. I understand that. But that has to be mutual and reciprocal. If the palestinians want aid need a Third Party Link the International Red cross to tell us that our hostages are okay. We dont just give aid and to the enemy who uses our hostages and uses people in hospitals to make israel look bad and make no mistake. Abdallah made it clear, abdallah from jordan does not want the palestinians. He actually used the term red line, i do not want them. Egypt does not want them. The president of egypt is a former general lcc. He knows that there is danger. He cant tell the difference between a palestinian and someone in hamas. So jordan does not want them. Egypt does not want them. And when you got irans leader, the ayatollah, who is praising the carnage, then we have got to recognize, this is a war. It has to be fought. Hamas needs to be finished. Greg harold . Haro