Right here in new york city and this is the 5. [♪♪] [♪♪] nearly 40 days of silence leading up to 26 total minutes of airtime in an interview last night for vice president harris and her running mate to malls. They sat down with cnn for their first big media interview since replacing biden on the democratic ticket. Harris claimed her values have not changed. This when she was pressed on why she's done an aboutface on some major issues like fracking. Take a listen. Do you still want to ban fracking? no, and i made that clear on the debate stage in 2020, that i would not ban fracking as vice president i did not ban fracking, as president i will not ban fracking. We are in 2024 and i've not change that position or will i going forward. I kept my word and i will keep my word. What made you change your position at the time? let's be clear, my values have not changed. Harasses fracking 180, watch what she actually said during the 2020 campaign. There's no question i'm in favor of banning fracking. Joe biden will not end fracking, he's been clear about that. Joe biden will not ban fracking. That is a fact. That is a fact. The other big interview moments last night and involve them and she replaced on the top of the ticket, president biden. Harris defended their joint record together in office especially when it comes to the economy and border. She also revealed whether she had any regrets about vouching for the president amid all the concerned about his fitness for office. Watch this. You insisted that president biden is extraordinarily strong. Given where we are now, do you have any regrets about what you told the american people? no, not at all. He has the intelligence, the commitment and the judgement, and disposition that i think the american people rightly deserve in their president. You raised your hand when asked whether or not the border should be decriminalized. Do you still believe that? i believe there should be consequence. I'm the only person who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations who traffic in drugs, on's in human beings. You been vice president for three and a half years. The steps you are talking about now, why haven't you done them already? well first of all we had to recover as an economy and we have done that. You maintain bidenomics is a success. There's more to do but that's good work. All right, let's take it to the table. After this highly anticipated 40 days in the works interview last night, a longform interview, we only got 26 minutes, but that might be the longest we hear from her before the election or before the debates anyway. I think the important question for folks to ask themselves coming out of it is what i'm going to ask you right now which is what is kamala harris' vision for the country and what does she stand for? it's like the media equivalent of constipation. You just anticipate and anticipate and nothing happens. They needed some fibre, you know, metamucil. It was not interesting. I felt like i'd stumbled into a parent teacher conference and their kid was joe biden. They had to tiptoe around the fact that joey is older than everybody else but can't do anything. It was 20 minutes that felt like 200. They took the most anticipated interview in 40 days and it felt like a stale bag of nuts from a vending machine. I was nonplussed. The goal here was a controlled demolition. Limit the damage to 18 minutes, four talk it topics. She did not score a point, she did not get a hit but she also did not pull a biden, and that's all they could hope for. This was safer than a condo minute convent. The thing that really bugged me though and the big issue, the no followup. She asked harris the one question there was some followup. That was it. When they asked harris about her role in lying to the american people about joe's mental state, and they couched it as do you regret telling the american people he was strong, and of course harris took the word regret and made it not about lying to america but about serving biden. Of course she has no regrets working with joe biden, but that was not the only question. It was do you regret lying to america. And there was no followup to that. It's amazing that in the last two weeks trump has done like five plus hours of interviews and they could not manage to do 20 minutes of transparency. It was just a fog of platitudes and evasive pivots. It wasn't just horrible. It wasn't enough to be horrible. It was lifeless, it was dead, it felt like it was in a conference room at the days inn. It was like a deposition. It was just there was nothing there. So to greg's point about her answer, when it comes to vouching for president biden, david axelrod on cnn like her answer. Take a listen. Who cares about him? she did not run away from him. She gave him i think his due. She understands there's political risk to that. That was elevating to me in a way i had not expected though i think on the whole this was a good night. It wasn't huge. I don't think she moved the ball that much forward but she certainly did not fall back. So elevating and away he had not expected. What you think about that? i kind of agree with greg. Who pulled his chain? i don't think her stance on joe biden is particularly difficult to answer and i don't think it's particularly important. No one really cares about joe biden at this point. Joe biden does not seem to care about joe biden. He does not care about governing the country. So sure, she can show lack his presidency all she needs to, and i think the question could have been phrased better. You know, when did you know that the president was in decline, because she did know, everyone knew. We all knew and we weren't the last person in the room. Which was how she praised phrased it when she was talking about their horrible afghanistan withdrawal plan. She was the last person with joe biden. So the point of that was i know him best. I sit with him the longest. So if that's the case, then she would have known first that there was something really wrong with him and she had promised the american people. Remember when anderson cooper pressed her after that horrific debate and she promised people, if there was something wrong with joe biden, i would be the one to say something. It's like well why didn't you say something then, why didn't you talk with your colleagues about the 25th amendment? maybe because she knew this plan was in place and if she sat there and answered the questions like a good little warrior, that she would be rewarded with the nomination. No one would stand in her way, not joe biden, not the obama, not josh shapiro, not gavin newsom, and the whole thing would be hers without any pushback at all. That was a deal that she made with the devil and she signed it in her own blood red ink. Part of the problem for her is that she was trying to, like, i hate the expression thread the needle but i guess she was trying to thread the needle. Greg: sexist. It always has to be about sewing right because she's a woman? i get it, sexist. But she's trying to say i fully support everything he's done, i stand by our record, but it's also time to turn the page. It's two opposite directions, you can't really do both. I feel like it was like when you watch spouses that are fighting, when they are fighting it's like your child did this today but when they are united it's like look honey billy got straight a's, our son is so amazing. She's clearly trying to divert herself from the administration only when it serves her. The sheer volume of those flipflops, for her to not be pressed further, how exactly has she changed and why. People have been excused on the left by saying every politician flipflops. Not this much and not as heavily so why someone who's so committed to the values that run the entire gamut? i was so sorely underwhelmed. I agree, this is a prosecutor. She likes to remind us that only is this our sitting vice president but a senator and the attorney general and more. She wanted to remind us that she did not deserve that because she was vice president she should have been in heels on the cover of folk. She declined meetings with spouses of the leaders of foreign nations. She said i'm the vice president, i command respect. I won't meet with the spouses. Now here we are led to believe she can't conduct an interview so low? she can't formulate thoughts? she was clearly totally unprepared except for her pull the chain comments that she likes to repeat. Otherwise there was zero command of knowledge, information and experience that you would expect out of someone who's been in the white house for four years and he wants to be there for another four years at the top. We will get into governor walls mac in the next block but i want to ask because there was so much criticism of him joining the interview before it took place, everyone sort of coming down hard, republican certainly, saying she should have handled this one so low. Now that we've seen the interview, do you think it was the right call for him to be there or not? i have no idea why he was there other than to may be make her look smarter and more intelligent or more eloquent in her speech. I don't know. The things he said we will talk about later but to go back to her interview, the point of this interview wasn't to get her answers on record, it was to offer her an opportunity to correct the record, to make it all smooth out so she doesn't have to be questioned about it again. When they came back from the first commercial break they literally ran the intro to the second segment, an add for kamala harris. And then there was a clip from trump when he went to the organization of black journalists, sitting there getting drilled. The first question, are you a racist. The irony and that is that they only had that clip of trump because he will sit down and answer questions from anyone. He's not afraid, he won't back down. She gave more details about the breakfast that she supposedly had when she was told that biden was dropping out then any policy they ask her. The only numbers or facts i could find, i took notes for the part of the interview i watched, i eventually went back to college football. But she said $10,000 tax credit, that's cool. Or 6000, that's cool. Jd vance wants to do ten. She said we will give u20 $5000 so you can buy a house the costs twice as much as it did last year. Tell me how that's a good deal. But we know about bacon and pancakes and puzzles and all the other horse [ bleep ] she threw in there that i don't believe. Quick before break, i don't know if we have time but an interview was nap with president trump after last night and here's his take on the debate or interview. I think it was not a great performance. It was a low energy performance. To take all of that time and get ready for that kin interview, it was a softball interview and i really think that probably if you look at it, it was not considered a big success. If you go by the reviews it was considered much less than a success. Coming up, bp harris not the only one in the hot seat, governor tim walz as we mentioned was there, finally asked about some accusations about stolen valour, about his record, we will get into that next. [♪♪] when did i call leaffilter? when i saw my gutters overflowing onto my porch. 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A former teacher, walz blamed his military fibs on some bad grammar. Watch this. In this case this was after a school shooting, the idea of carrying these weapons of war. My wife tells me my grammar is not always correct but if it's not this it's an attack on my children for showing love to me or it's an attack on my dog. I will never demean another members of service and anyway. I never have and never will. All right so i don't remember the attacks on his children for loving him are the attacks on his dog. Thought i would as a combat veteran, please set the record straight. What's the best way to view how he has talked about his military career, his actual time in service, he honorably served in the national guard and some of the exaggerations he's made? i'm going to be as nice as i can be about this and say he's a lawyer and coward. That's how i feel about it and let me explain why. It's not because he's running for vise president on the democrat ticket, there are republicans who are no longer in congress i would say that about too. With that being said, the problem with him is that he used he said in that clip, he doesn't want to belittle anyone service but he belittled everyone who did not go to combat when he decided he could not have a political career without lying about going to combat. He decided his time in the national guard wasn't enough. He had to sit on the affairs committee. I was there when he was a junior member but he sat on the committee, looked at gold star families across, sat there and said when we came back from war we did not have the resources where the mental health support we needed. His war was fought in southern italy. I'm sorry but between iraq and afghanistan, sent me to italy. I don't need mental health when i get back. Maybe but i don't think. This idea that he said the weapons we carried in war. That's one little slip. It's not bad grammar. I from georgia, i can give you all kinds of bad grammar real quick if you want me to. But the fact is when you pilot up over several years, when you take the people, the sergeant major that took his place when he left his unit and what his position is, he continually lied and stretch the truth, let you fill in the blanks, did not correct anyone. I've deployed twice to combat. Do you know what my peers would do to me if i said i deployed three times? and the marine corps deployed means he went to combat. You don't use that term unless it applies to combat. I can say i deployed three times but really i deployed twice. Semantics matter because when you care about the men, do you know what you get when you die on the battlefield? the exact same award i got for simply losing my legs. A purple heart. So at the end of the day if you care about those people and want to honor them, you don't try to put yourself on the same pedestal they are on. In my opinion that's what he does when he sits there and talked to goldstar family members and lies about his service. That's a joe biden move. For those of you who don't know, his son did not die in combat, although he would have you believe he did. And he's made that claim repeatedly and i believe that's why people are so sensitive to it, they don't want to be lied to or misled. Things are hard enough. It's an odd way for him to connect but it hasn't just been about his military service, he's also done the same thing when he talks about his wife's infertility struggles and he talks about ivf. His wife did not have ivf. That's an incredibly emotional and expensive and invasive procedure. She did not have that very procedure but he implies that she has. Does he have a glitch? i don't know where this is coming from. What you said was so powerful and in my own tiny way i just say that as humans and americans, we all have our complex and personal experiences and if you are running for that high of office, it should not matter what your particular experience was because it will resonate with many people via it's authenticity. You should not have to lie about anything. The fact that he lies about everything, because that's a lie, a little embellishment, that is a lie and it is certainly a lie at the highest hubris insult way when it's demeaning our men and women in service. And it demeans all the americans whose vote he wants to earn because he thinks he can pull the wool over our eyes and it's the media who say he's a regular guy, bringing regular back. They are carrying this character and veneer they painted around him. It's disgusting because they are doing what they did to biden switches forgive him for 30 years and make it okay to be a pathological liar. Did she need him in that interview? i think so. I think she looked very miserable and uncomfortable. I think there's a bit of social anxiety. It kind of envelops her. When i was in vietnam. . . [ laughter ] it was spring break 2010. I don't talk about it, i don't bring it out. It was tough. I had to fly business because they don't have first. I know. I won't get into the situation with the sanitary issues but anyway. So it goes back to the pick and choosing how to answer a question. The question was about his lies. He pivots to it being about his service. That's his way out. No one is questioning his service but him. You know what i mean? he's the one whose demeaning service, no one else. Also dana bash helps him out by grouping the lies together so it gives him the option of not choosing the more serious lies. The dwi thing is a big deal. His campaign covered it up. I believe she had that lie tagged in with another lie. I don't think he even addressed it. He never addressed that. It's the same pivot with what i mentioned before, kamala when they were saying do you have regrets lying to america, she turned it into regrets serving with joe. He does the same thing with his military service and then she helps him by saying here are three of your lies, just pick one. And then he picks the easy one, talks about people, you know, going after his kids and his dog. Thank god for internet trolls because if one person had not made a quip about his kids or his dog, he never would have any defense at all. So they are so grateful when one person out of 100 million people goes on and says what about your dog. He says thank god, now i can be the victim. How dare you go after my dog or child. It's one person in a trailer park. And he says he's candid but is that really code for lying? i mean the only thing he was candid about last night, the only thing he took on, the only issue he addressed at all, the only thing he talked about was his family. Which could not be really farther from the purpose of this interview, from the reason that he is sitting there, which is so that america can learn more about this person who most people have never heard of before or had never heard of before a month ago. There was a survey before he assented to the ticket, that 90% of people in america did not know enough about him to have an opinion. We know the back story now, he's told his personal story over and over and over again at the rallies, at the dnc, last night was an opportunity for him to get into it. What's your vision, what do you care about, what do you stand for. Same thing for harris. It seems like both of them declined the opportunity. Issues. Coming up, talk about a snack attack. California going after flaming hot cheetos and twinkies. Those commies. Please stay with us. [♪♪] bass pro shops and cabela's stands tall in our unwavering commitment to honoring our heroes. We extend our gratitude. . . Beyond words. . . 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