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Sandra top of a new hour. Former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris gearing up to debate is a Brandnew Poll show that this race is Neck And Neck and voters who are hungry for change. John Vos Nominees are comparing but the strategies could not be new different. Harris hungers down and prepares with her team. Sandra they spoke in a radio interview. This is from today. I intend to point out what many people know and as weve been traveling the country with this campaign, he tends to fight for himself, not the american people. And i think that will come out during the debate. Sandra that is quite a set up your hello and welcome im Sandra Smith in New York. John i have John Roberts in washington and this is america reports. The trump teens as their candidate is more than ready. President trump is ready. He is been proven to be one of the most effective debaters and political history. Watch how he knocked Joe Biden out of the race. Spoon Judge Jeanine Pirro set to join us but first Alexis Mcadams in pittsburgh where the Vice President has set up her debate boot camp. What a perfectly timed train whistle. Thats right. The area we are in has a lot of trains moving through but this comes as Kamala Harris has been hunkered down here in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, for days could i have been here for the weekend and we have only seen the Vice President come out of that hotel two times and she did not have too much to say but how does Kamala Harris prepare to debate former President Trump . Simple. According to different reports they have an aide dressed up like former President Trump. They say he is wearing a boxy suit, a long time and he is trying to get on her skin making sure shes as prepared as possible. That when asked if she was ready for trump she gave a thumbs up. Madame Vice President how will you handle it on the stage of trump decides to launch a personal attack . Are you ready madame Vice President . Thats all we got. Vice president Kamala Harris took a Sunday Night walk in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, with her husband as the latest polling shows just how important this debate will be. Why . Because 28 of likely voters say they feel like they need to learn more about Kamala Harris while only 9 say they need to know more about trump so people feel like they know where he stands. That is according to the New York times sienna pulled from over the weekend. The two candidates have been preparing for two very different ways. You have to look at what happened this weekend. Trump has rallies, Town Halls, interviews he does and the harris has gone 50 days and counting without a formal press conference. She spent the weekend studying and it is because they think trump will do well. We cant underestimate the fact that Donald Trump is a pretty good debater. He has done this seven times and he has been preparing. He beat Joe Biden, President Biden in the debate in june. He will be prepared himself and we will see how it plays out. Over the weekend, harris stopped at a Spice Store in pittsburgh and its It Chain that has infamous for attacking the g. O. P. Pansy spices. Theyve offered discounts to celebrate trumps indictment saying reindicted and it feels so good but while she was in there she talked about reuniting the country and moving past all the political attacks. Here live we can tell you the Harris Campaign is not happy with some of the Debate Rules in place because they wanted open microphones. Why . They were planning on her being in Prosecutor Mode and they think trump does his worst when he gets irritated and angry and she does her best when she is going after people is what im told. We will see what happens. John a lot of people were looking for and i am speaking, im speaking moment. I guess she wont get it. Though some people think she will try to manufacture one. Thank you so much, appreciate that. Sandra Judge Jeanine Pirro is here on set. Its interesting. Aishah hasnie is reporting on some of what just happened on a Brandnew Debate Press call. It was all held on the record and on The Call was jason miller, Matt Gaetz, the republican from Florida And Tulsi gabbard who we know is actively helping trump prepare for this in whatever way they are. I want to dig into the first question here. How does he go up against a female candidate while trying to court female voters . She said trump will address issues that matter the most to women and families, safety and security, how to bring the economy back to life, Child Care and housing shortage. Will it behoove him to focus on those issues and not veer off in another way . Theres no question. If you think about it women are the ones who were in charge of pretty much the budget and the household cared whether it is Buying Food or in terms of how hot the houses, how cool the house is, buying clothes for the kids for schools, school supplies. Tulsi gabbard is so right about this whole thing. There is so much that Donald Trump can talk about that appeals to women that is important to women to make sure that their kids are safe when they walk outside and then he can turn it around. There is the offense and the defense. Kamala harris is an undefined candidate in spite of the fact she has been Vice President for the past three and a half years. In the end people dont know who she is. So Donald Trump can see you see all the drugs going on in this country and the Fentanyl Crisis . Do you see crimes that we are so horrified about . Thank Kamala Harris because her job was the border and she failed miserably. Sandra this is former President Trump in his own words on with hannity during that Town Hall last week and this is what he did say about his Debate Strategy. A debate is interesting. You can go in with all of the strategy that you want but you have to feel it out as the debate is taking place. You go in there and you have a strategy. Mike tyson made the statement. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. And its true. It was a brilliant statement. Its a brilliant statement. So i can tell sean exactly what im going to do but things change. You know what, he is so right. I have done debates like this at the State Level when i ran for office. You get punched in the face and then you are scrambling. Now the truth is Kamala Harris has been Vice President for the past three and a half years. All we know of this woman is she does nothing but Word Salads and then she giggles and cackles. She can be prepared as a prosecutor and i have no question in my mind that she will sound smart. But all she needs to do is be unhinged for one minute and went Donald Trump comes at her, if she does not have a safe space or a landing spot, she is not going to be able to do a good job. She will go back to the Word Salad and americans will say i know who she is. Sandra interesting. And i shared with you an interview from the weekend where Karl Rove suggested that the tougher job on that Debate Stage is going to land with former President Trump. Heres what he sent over the weekend. You think the stakes are higher for trump . He has a harder job . I think he does because she has miraculously grabbed the label of the candidate of change. She has been able to dissolve the bonds that tied her to her superior, the president , and is now seen as the new different face. He has to make a specific attack on the issues and say she is responsible for it and i have a specific plan that is my second act that will make things better. Sandra thats interesting because the on the record called that Matt Gaetz and Tulsi Gabbard were just on, they were asked about that Debate Strategy and they made the case that she, Kamala Harris, owns every failure of the current administration, biden is not in charge of anything, who is in charge, Kamala Harris peered she has been running the country the entire time. They talked about her being the border czar. But to carls point they have put her out there like this is a new fresh face for you have not seen her closely tie herself to the biden policies. Will trump have a harder job on that stage . I dont know if trump has a harder job. He needs to define her because so many americans dont know who she is or they are being introduced to her as a moderate when we all know she is the most liberal person who has ever run for office, certainly for the President Of The United States. What Donald Trump has to do is not only identify who the real, let is, but also say what she is saying now is not true as evidenced by the fact that she is been the Vice President in charge and she hid a president. Even a prosecutor said he could not prosecute them because he was so out of control with his mental acuity. Sandra great points all around. Judge, we will see what five. Thank you so much. John looking forward to that. Fox news alert. Lets go right to the White House for the briefing where John Kirby is talking about the Suicide Bombing at Abbey Gate. Speak out the former president reduced our presence in afghanistan from 14,000 down to 2500. As general Frank Mckenzie former commander of u. S. Central command said himself in testimony, the deal had a really pernicious effect on the afghan government and military. As We Saw, it demoralized them and it disenfranchised them. They knew right then and there that america was on its way out. Indeed in october of 2020, then President Trump ordered his military to rush the exit from afghanistan and have Everyone Leave by christmas of that year. President biden for his part faced a stark choice when he came to office. Abide by the flawed Agreement And End americas longest war or blow up the deal, extent of the war, and see how much smaller of american contingents in combat with the taliban. He chose the former and was able to buy additional time to prepare for that withdraw all The Way into the summer. And we as a nation are safer for it. Any and every discussion about what happened in afghanistan has to start right there. Sadly the report does not dwell on it. There are some other falsehoods. Too many to mention but if you do stand out and i would like to take them off if you dont mind. Number one. There was in Fact Planning for evacuations good planning that started in the spring of 2021 and included all of the requisite agencies. In fact the department of Defense Preposition Military Units in the region so once a decision had been reached to evacuate, they would be poised to respond in a timely fashion. Two. There was no Finetune Assessment of how fast things would unfold in august of 2021. It all moved a lot faster than anyone anticipated as the taliban moved in, and afghan forces stopped fighting, and the government fled. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Of Staff general Mark Milley said nothing that i saw indicated a collapse of this army in this government in 11 days. Too. Im sorry, three. There was no point in securing the Air Base for the evacuation. Doing so would of not only required thousands of additional u. S. Troops but also would have required a dangerous track by evacuees over talibancontrolled territory making the evacuation even more difficult to execute than it already was. Four. There was no handover of u. S. Equipment to the taliban. That equipment had been provided to Afghan Security Forces appropriately and with congressional approval over the course of two decades of war. That equipment was left by those afghan forces when they surrendered or stopped fighting. Five. There was no deception, lying, or lack of transparency by this administration either during or after the withdrawal. We did the best we could every day to keep the american people informed of what was happening. We conducted our own after Action Reports and share those with the public. As i mentioned, we cooperated extensively in this investigation and we continue to work with the work commission. Ending wars is more difficult than starting them. President biden knew that, he acknowledged that, but it does not mean that the decision to end this one was wrong or that the withdrawal was not conducted as professionally and as bravely as was humanly possible given the circumstances. It doesnt mean that we dont grieve and mourn with the family of those whose lives were tragically taken during the withdrawal, especially at Abbey Gate on the 26th Of August that year. And it does not mean that we dont still look with Awe And Admiration at the many of thousands of Men And Women who waged us were over the course of 20 years. Troops, diplomats, intelligence experts, contractors, civilian employees from this and dozens of other nations. They accomplish the mission for which they were sent to afghanistan. They helped make us a safer nation. Sadly 2,461 of them did not make it home. Many of those who did still struggle with the wounds of war seen and unseen. As the president has said, we owe them and their families a debt of gratitude that can never be fully repaid but now that the war is over, our nation can better focus on other pressing national security interests around the world. We would do well in all of this partisan rancor over the drawl to remember that. We will take some questions. It is been reported that iran has been giving shortrange missiles to russia for ukraine. Can you concerned that this has happened . I cannot confirm reports that the transfer has happened but i would point you to what we have set in the past that any such provision of that kind of technology would not only have deleterious effect on the Ukrainians Ability to continue to fund themselves and certainly on the lives and livelihoods of the ukrainians but could depending on what the deal and how it is consummated have equally deleterious effects on the Middle East. And iran that already has an improving ballistic missile program, we can only assume would want to stand to gain from some sort of partnership with russia to improve their capabilities in the region and given it how they are destabilizing activities that is a dangerous outcome. Is the White House prepared to increase pressure on netanyahu to do something somewhere with the United Kingdom in terms of withholding were weapons question work. I can think of anything we have a put more pressure on ourselves on than to get this deal done. I think we know how urgent this is and we are working Night And Day to try and get a deal in place. Hamas is the main obstacle to this. A couple of things. Would you argued that the withdraw was a success or would you admit that there are failings involved in that . I pointed to the after Action Report where i think we have been very clear about the planning efforts in the execution of the plan. No plan of any operation whatsoever ever goes exactly according to the dictates by which you laid it out. Clearly there were moments of great violence and there were moments of Mission Execution that did not go exactly The Way we wanted it to go. Nobody has walked away from t that. But in the main we were able to get 120,000 some odd folks out of there safely with an airplane taking off once every hour. And again, we have laid it out in the after Action Report that the State Department did, that the Department Of Defense did here. On the point about the visit in gaza. Is the president going to be pressing the Prime Minister to reverse the decision on the sales or reverse should he be seeking advice on how the u. S. Might do that question work. We are looking forward to the Visit Pair theres an awful lot to discuss. You can expect the Prime Minister and the president to talk about whats going on in ukraine and talk about the Middle East and even the endo pacific. John John Kirby there the national Security Spokesman pushing back on the house foreign Affairs Committee Report on afghanistan, a scathing report that says the biden administration had no plan to get out of afghanistan. He counters that by saying that biden by delaying the withdrawal of american forces had time to plan which a lot of people might say you planned for this . And it went as badly as it did . That might Add Fuel to the fire. Sandra and then to say they did not try to deceive the public on what happened there after we had that Gold Star Father on it saying that they believe exactly what they have learned happened that day. That they were indeed misleading the american public on the details of that horrific day. John a lot to come with the fallout from that house foreign Affairs Committee Report and the hours and days ahead. In the meantime lets get back to democracy 24. Vice president Harris Hunkering down with aides and advisors and reporting a Standin Opponent ahead of tomorrow Nights Debate. Her last minute preparations come as a new poll suggests the Harris Honeymoon might be over. The governor of delaware is a Harris Walz Campaign surrogate. Thank you for taking the time. Harris seems to be abandoning a list of progressive policies that she outlined and supported back in 2019. Portraying herself as a mod moderate. But Bernie Sanders believes if and when she gets into office, she wont govern as a moderate. Listen to what he said. I dont think she is abandoning her ideals. I think she is trying to be pragmatic and doing what she thinks is right in order to win back the election. Her views are not mine but i do consider her a progressive. John i do consider her a progressive which raises a number of questions that i wouldnt mind putting to you such as does she actually support a Ban On Fracking . Not what she is saying now and will she return to that position when and if she is put elected . Thank you for the opportunity of joining today. Thanks Senator Sanders for his word that she doesnt stand for the position that he does. Take her for her word that she supports fracking currently even though in the past she said something differently. I think Senator Sanders is right in terms of the evolution of a candidate who is running locally or in a different context now. Trying to get support from a very narrow slice of the voters who have not decided who they will support in this election. She is running on the record of the President Of The United States and i believe that is a winning record. John she is running on that record but shes also running away from it and she is running away from her past positions. What sandra said raises another question. Will she go back to her original position on Decriminalizing Border Crossings . What do you think . No, i think she will support the agreement that was forged in the united States Congress which former President Trump killed basically. That was a step forward and it was a step that had support from both sides of the aisle in both chambers and i think that is the approach she will be supporting one elected President Of The United States. John one other position if Bernie Sanders thinks she is still a progressive. Will she go back to her original plan to ban private Health Insurance and nationalize Health Care in this country and provide illegal migrants with free Health Care . The fact of the matter is with Medicaid And Medicare, we have significant Health Care programs that are run by the government and the state and federal government locally so it is certainly a mixed approach to providing Health Insurance. I know what she cares about which is making sure that everyone in america does have coverage. You dont just have to be wealthy, you dont have to get Health Insurance from your job to be covered yourself. I think that is a point for many democrats. Its not a government sponsored program any more than Medicaid And Medicare is. John know what she wanted to get rid of private Health Insurance. Do you support that and do you think she will go back to that position . No. I think it is a mixed approach appeared we have a mixed economy there with respect to private insurance that layers on top of those two large government programs. Both in the case of medicare with Medicare Advantage and with many managed care programs for medicaid here in the state of delaware we have a mixed approach of making sure that every delaware inhouse Health Insurance when they need it. John she has an Issues Page up on her website now. But it really only seems in some degree to highlight the flipflops that she has had from her original policies. She was espousing back in 2019 everything from rejecting the Ev Mandate to a Border Wall to Decriminalizing Border Crossings but there isnt much on that on her issues website. Medicare for all as we were just discussing, mandatory gum by vets, offshore, even reversing on a plastic straw band. This will be fodder for a lot of questions Tomorrow Night. How do you think she will be able to handle the fact that she is so drastically change. She has done 180s on a lot of this stuff. How will she be able to defend or explain her evolution if you will on these policies . I dont think theres going to be a lot of attention. Maybe for some, attention on those specific issues. Ive been knocking on doors all over our city recently and i dont hear much about any of those issues. I think it will be a question of style. The bullying of former President Trump and his comment just before we went on, he referred to the Mike Tyson comment where surviving a punch in the face. He is going to try to punch the Vice President in the face and we will see how that goes over. I think her challenge is to hold her ground, to be consistent, and to lay out for the american people or at least the narrow portion of the american people who have not decided yet who they will support in the election. John i think with the former president was referring to is the idea that you go in with a plan until you get smacked in the face yourself and then you decide to go with a different plan. I dont think he was talking about punching her in the face. I think what it refers to is The Way he approaches these debates. He comes in with thinking about throwing punches in a Boxing Match one after another after another and you just really have to hold your ground with respect to your point of view. With whatever the issue seems to be or is in the moment. I think she will be fine. I think the former president has done a lot of these debates. He has never debated someone like the Vice President Harris D i think she will be a very different person to deal with in that forum. John we will see how it goes with the mics closed because the moments she was looking for out of Tomorrows Debate certainly would be along the lines of the moments that she had with the former Vice President back in 2020 where she called him out and said i am speaking, i am speaking. Basically saying you are bullying me, dont do that. She wanted that opportunity Tomorrow Night if the rules are applied as they should. Governor, good to talk to. Thank you for joining us. Appreciate it. Good to be with you. Spew and tune into Fox News democracy 24 special coverage of the abc president ial debate simulcast. Our coverage begins tomorrow 8 00 eastern time. She has a lot of explaining to do as lucy might have but the governor does not think that the moderators will spend a lot of time on examining her change in position. Her evolution, her flipflop, however to put it. Sandra so that should be the strategy for trump and his campaign to make sure that they do exactly that with the time that he gets. Sarah huckabee sanders this morning was reminding our audience here on fox saying everyone says it may be he will just wing it. He isnt talking about any formal Debate Prep like Kamala Harris says but he is out there doing so many interviews every single day and not only with the friendliest of media. He is practicing a lot. John remember how effective George Bush and his campaign were in 2004. Hitting John Kerry on his flipflop on funding for the iraq war. He was for it and then he was against it. That was one issue. And they tortured him with that one issue appeared she has a Laundry List of stuff that she flipflops on. Sandra we will see how it goes Tomorrow Night. Meanwhile the father of the 14yearold accused of carrying out a School Shooting in georgia facing charges as we learn more about the Emergency Alert Badge system that officials say save lives. John millions of nativeborn american workers are losing their jobs as foreigners now make up a quarter of the u. S. Workforce. Steve hilton here to react to the latest Jobs Data coming upcc next. Safelite came right to us, and we could see exactly when theyd arrive with a replacement we could trust. Vo schedule free Mobile Service at safelite. Com. Singers safelite repair, safelite replace. Vo Memory and thinking issues keep piling up . It may seem like normal aging but could be due to a buildup of Amyloid Plaques in the brain. The sooner you talk to your doctor, the more options you may have. Learn more at amyloid. Com. We all Know Costs are too high. But while corporations are gouging families, trump is focused on giving them Tax Cuts. But Kamala Harris is focused on you. Building up the Middle Class will be a defining goal of my presidency. Shell make groceries more affordable by cracking down on price gouging. And Shell Cut Housing costs by taking on corporate speculators. Middle class families built america. We need a leader who has their back. Im Kamala Harris and i approve this message. Citis industry leading global payments solutions help their clients move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries. And help a partner like the World Food Programme as they provide more than food to people in need. Together, citi and the World Food Programme empower families across the globe. John the judge in the trial of the man accused of murdering for University Of Idaho students has agreed to move the trial to a new venue. Bryan Kohbergers Team motion to move the trial last month saying it would be hard to find potential jurors without biased views of the case. Dan springer covered the investigation into the killings. He has live now with more on the change of venue. Do we know where it is going yet . We dont because the judge just put out the order this morning. It is not entirely unexpected. We knew we had this hearing a week and a half ago where the defense was arguing that Bryan Kohberger could not get a fair trial. Accused of murdering four students at the University Of Idaho. He will not stand trial in that College Town. Judge John Judge has granted the Defense Motion to move the trial from Latah County. It is a big win for the defense which has argued from the beginning that he could not get a fair trial in moscow which is the College Town where the murders occurred in 2022 and only has about 30,000 people. His lawyers made the case for that News Coverage that News Coverage has been prejudicial and has made it impossible to see a fair and impartial jury. The decision to move the trial has angered the family of one of the victims. The lawyer for the parents of Kaylee Gonzalez issued a scathing Statement Today saying the only good thing about this decision is it will be judge judges last decision in the case. They felt that the judge has favored the defense throughout the proceedings. In granting the motion, the judge wrote in this order considering the undisputed evidence presented by the defense, the extreme nature of the News Coverage in this case and the smaller population of Latah County, the defense has met the rather low standard of demonstrating a reasonable likelihood that prejudicial News Coverage will compromise a fair trial in Latah County. The judge did not say where it will be held nor that he wants to stay on the trial so now the Idaho State Supreme Court will choose a new venue and assign a new judge. The trial is set for next June 2025 and is expected to last three months. It will probably be in Ewa County which is the largest county in the state by far. About 12 times bigger than Latah County and the County Seat there is boise and so it is likely that the Supreme Court in the coming days will announce a new judge and a new venue probably to ada county. John a pretty healthy Jury Pool there. Jan springer for us. Thank you. Sandra the state of the u. S. Jobs market is dramatically shifting. As the country continues to see a surgeon and migrants. The Wall Street Journal is writing about a historic influx of migrants that has changed the size, makeup, and outlook of the market and the economy. Lets bring in Fox News contributor Steve Hilton. This is something we have been talking about for a long time. The possibility that this would happen and now there are numbers to prove it. Exactly. And by The Way, just before we get going for those who may be concerned, i still have the accent but i am not one of these foreigners taking jobs from americas. I am an american. Steege or steve, what youre saying is so important paired we will fix your microphone there. Let me play this out while you get that sorted out. This is the Kamala Harris interview. She is talking about because of the state of inflation, the Jobs Market obviously slowing a bit here. She is making economic promises ahead of tomorrow Nights Debate and this is what she says she will do to bring down prices. Big companies will take advantage of a crisis like the pandemic or where people are desperate for groceries and certain goods and services in the company prices to try and take advantage of the desperation that people have. I will increase going after that kind of behavior, that bad behavior cold price gouging. Sandra more on that with stephen just a minute. Back to the White House. Jacqui heinrich is now questioning. Any questions you would have to ask the campaign and that is for them to speak to and what i will say is what i can say is as far as contrast, the Contrast Cant be more clear. Could not be more clear. If you think about four years ago, america was a real leg. It was reeling and a once in generation pandemic. It was isolated from the World Stage. Crime was up, the Middle Class was sidelined, We Saw an insurrection. An insurrection on January 6th and 2021. That the former president lead. And you think about today where we are today. Three and a half years later we have we are leading the strongest economy in the world. You hear the Comeback Stories in places like milwaukee, to dayton, to scranton, pennsylvania. We have done what people said we could not do which is true in the economy around, turn the country around, be a leader on the World Stage and i think it is important for americans to know and to be reminded where we were and where we are. The president certainly agrees with her. He agrees with her leadership, her policy decisions, he agrees with her when it comes to making sure that we need to make sure that we stop megan onyx. You think about the 4,000 Tax Type on working americans. You mention project 2025. Its something that republican support. It is a radical, radical idea of a radical Policy Agenda that is going to do more harm to the american people. Trump has repeatedly distance himself from it. And i said republicans. That is something that republicans support. This is not any more cast as something that trump embraces . Let me just get that straight. You asked me a couple of things. You asked me about the contrast, why she continues to make the contrast for you would have to talk to the campaign on her strategy and how they move forward i laid out for you the contrast could not be more clear where we were when we walked into this administration, when the president walked into the administration and where we are today and that is because of this leadership of this administration of the Bidenharris Administration of your project 25 is something that republicans, im not going to speak to the president or the former president on this, but something that republicans are pushing. Its a radical idea and we are talking about more radical abortion bans, cuts to Law Enforcement, cuts to education, repealing the affordable Care Act and repealing the Inflation Reduction Act which, by The Way, beats big pharma. Which is something that many elected officials tried to do and could not get done, the Bidenharris Administration try to get it done. Thats what i can speak to and that is a reality. That is what is in that agenda and that is what republicans are pushing and that is what i can lay out for you. Speak of the campaign is not holding regular briefings, they dont have a Forum Q a form like we have here. I just answered your question on why the contrast could not be more clear. I just answered your contrast about 2025 to what it will try to do and what republicans are trying to do. I do appreciate the answer. You asked me about why the Vice President s campaign is not doing x, y, and z. I said to you you need to talk to the Vice President s campaign and i need to be mindful to that. You know that. I Cant Answer that question. What i can talk to contrast. You asked about contrast, i just laid that out. Does President Biden define Vice President harris as a Progressive Democrat . Speak out the Vice President has been a critical partner. A critical partner to this president. All you have to do is look at the record and what we have been able to do in the past three to half years. The Bidenharris Administration has been able to do. Think about the economy, think about Health Care, and you think about these really important generation changing legislations that are now laws. I just talked about beating big pharma. Thats important. That was the Inflation Reduction Act that only democrats voted for and now republicans want to repeal. They want to take that away. Take that away. Take away lowering costs for the american people. To be clear, lowering cost on medical care and pharmaceutical drugs and also energy bills. Those are really big parts of the reduction act. The president is not going to be labeling the Vice President. She has her policies that she he obviously is in line with, that she has put forth in the past week or so. He supports her, he believes in her leadership, and thats what i can share with you. Allowing for a contrast with trump but not a contrast with other democrats because senator Bernie Sanders for instance said he still views her as a Progressive Democrat, said she is not abandoning her ideals but making a pragmatic play toward the center to win the election and that sends a chill down the spine of some people who might be in the middle or the center right considering her hand when she has been trying to position herself as a more moderate figure now that she was in 2020, where does she stand exactly . First of all, the senator will speak for himself. That is for him to speak to. Im not going to get into i agree or disagree with them. What i can tell you is this president believes in her leadership and believes in her bold Policy Agenda. That is something that the president is in line with her on. And we are talking about strengthening the Middle Class. That is what we believe are bold Policy Agenda continues to do and that is important to hear the President Talk about building economy from the Bottom Up of middle out and strengthening the middleclass good we are in line. More economic opportunity. The president wants to see that and you are talking about Tax Cuts for working people, fighting corporate pricing gouging, lowering costs and having the wealthy pay their fair share. We are in line. We are in line with what the Vice President is putting forth. Her bold Policy Agenda to make sure that we do not leave people behind. Im not going to stand here and label the Vice President. The senator has every right to say whatever he wants to say. What i can say is the president agrees with her bold Policy Agenda and her leadership. Sandra obviously really great questions there our own Jacqui Heinrich pressing the Press Secretary because we got in for the answer but we didnt quite hear the question. She was asking them to define the Harris Campaign website. We have been talking about the fact that it has not laid out detailed policies until now. I have them in front of me here and what jackie was asking about is why does the Harris Campaign website directly tie on multiple occasions Donald Trumps laid out policies to project 2025 and its agenda . The former president has disavowed this and distanced himself from this. She pointed out that there are some republicans will push it and support it but she would not comment on his exact ties to it. Her policies on her Policy Layout on her Campaign Website it certainly doesnt directly link him to project 2025. John it is the one big thing they think theyve got. They are trying to sell this to the american public that if you elect Donald Trump to a second term you are going to get the heritage foundations to project 2025 and trumpets and many, many times thats not goig to happen. But whats curious when you look at the Issues Page as you pointed out on her website there is nothing in there that explains heres what i believed five years ago and heres what i believe now and here is the reason why i change my mind on these policies. We are still left to guess why she abandoned her Ban On Fracking. Does she still support a ban on offshore drilling. Why she abandon her ban on plastic straws. Even something that simple. You dont know. Sandra we will bring back in Steve Hilton now. A Brandnew Reaction to what we just heard there at the White House. Thank you for sticking with us. When i say they directly tie the former president to project 2025 and its agenda, they do so with red bold writing. In fact, i believe this is under the energy policy. Lowering Energy Costs which have gone up under this administration. She is talking about policies to lower prices that her administration ran up to begin with. Grocery prices, Utility Prices as well. And they directly link him to it. To the 2025 agenda. Vice president harris is blowing compared to transplant to jack up prices, we can the middleclass, Cut Social Security and medicare, eliminate the Department Education and the affordable Care Act. Project 2025 would give him unprecedented control it reads. When it comes to policy, this whole Harris Campaign is a complete joke. They are just saying words. Completely detached from reality or any serious meaning. On project 2025 exactly as you say, i dont know how many times trump and the Trump Campaign have to say thats not us, we did not commission it and thats not our plan. Heres our plan and you can look at the policies. They just lie, the Harris Campaign. They constantly say this is his agenda and when it comes to their own plans in effect you could say we now know the Kamala Harris project 2025 because Bernie Sanders just told us. He just told us that actually she hasnt really changed anything pure and she is just saying stuff to get through the election and you can see how ridiculous it all is when you have Kamala Harris in her own ads now raising trumps Border Wall. For years she said it was racist and disgusting and john made a point earlier about these changes peered fair enough its true that in Politics Parties change. Candidates change. They come to terms with the changing reality or changing electorate but what did they do . Real ones, serious leaders, they make the Case Month after month, year after year about why the party should change or that positions it should change peered you saw that with Bill Clinton back in the 90s in terms of the democrats going to far left and he brought them back to the mainstream for you saw it in the u. K. With tony blair. For years they make the argument peered you cant just turn around and five seconds and say actually we dont believe that anymore just because it is politically convenient. No one should take any of this seriously. Sandra want to finish off with this to your point about the border. Reading through her new policy details on her Campaign Website i can just read everybody the first line of it. Vice president harris and Governor Kamala to walz believe and tough and smart solutions to secure the border, keep Communie And Reformed broken immigration system. This will come up in the Debate Stage good she is talking about doing something that she could have done. She is currently in the White House appeared i will finish off with where we started, steve. And these new Employment Numbers on migrants versus u. S. Born workers. There is a shift happening, steve, where more jobs now, more and more i should say, are going to recent immigrants coming into the country, particularly in construction laborers. Housekeeping we are seeing this happen. Cooks. What do you make of this and what you people think . Of course its true that immigration managed properly can be a net positive for an economy. Particularly one like ours that is so enterprising and open. But what we have is a situation where it isnt managed at all. Its a total freeforall and actually what you see now is still despite the fact that unemployment has come down, we have a relatively low Labor Force Participation rate. It is lower than it was during the trump years. Way lower than it was in The 80s And 90s and early 2,000 peered what does that mean . You have millions of americans not working. Being paid Peered Welfare and other services to not work. Importing workers to do that while we are paying our own people not to work is completely crazy. Yes, we should have an assessment of the needs that we have in the economy and manage our Immigration Process to fit that. Not this open border freeforall. Sandra always good to have you. Thank you for sticking with us through the breaking news at the White House. Thank you. John. John authorities in kentucky holding a News Conference at the top of the hour as day three of their search for the man accused of Opening Fire on Interstate 75 continues. What police know about the suspected shooter. We have Chris Swecker on deck. Stay with us. Weve never spoken. But youve told us many things. That you love stargazing, hate parallel parking, and occasionally, your right foot gets a little heavy. The lexus es didnt begin in a studio it began with you. Id like to take a moment to address my fellow veterans, because i know so many of you have served our country honorably. 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Police say Joseph Couch is Armed And Dangerous after he shot at a dozen cars and injured five people on saturday night. Former Fbi Director Chris Swecker is standing by. He will have Brandnew Reaction for us but first, Garrett Henney is live in chicago. What do you know about the suspected shooter at this point . The man they are looking for is 32yearold Joseph Couch. He served six year in the Army Reserve as a Combat Engineer and does not have a criminal record. Police say Saturday Morning he went to a local gunshot and legally bought an Ar15 Style Rifle and around 1,000 rounds of ammo. That Evening Couch climbed down a cliff overlooking the I75 Highway a few miles outside the small town of London Kentucky and started shooting at cars on the interstate. Investigators say he fired as many as 20 to 30 rounds hitting at least 12 cars in five people. For the Third Day now, Law Enforcement is searching thats rocky and hilly area that is so thickly forested that officers say they need machetes and its like walking through a jungle. Schools have been closed, churches canceled and everyone there is being asked to stay inside for their own safety. You need to lock your doors, you need to have Security Cameras and make sure you are constantly watching them. Keep your porch lights on. Have your Cell Phone and make sure your phones are charged up because you never know when you might have to contact somebody or Law Enforcement and we want those tips. Today prosecutors charge accounts with five counts of tempted murder and five counts of attempted assault peered there could be more charges that come and we are expecting an update on the search and the investigation at the top of the hour. Sandra Garrett Henney on that for us. Thank you. John Chris Swecker former Fbi Assistant Director to dig deeper on this. Heres what the authorities say and terms of the clues that they have. This is according to the New York times. Authorities found a small suv registered to mr. Couch at the top of a hill near the interstate and an Ar15 Rifle some distance from the vehicle. A phone was also found but the battery was removed. It seems that the suspect dumped his gear and ran. It does sound like that. I believe they also found an ar15 and the car if im not mistaken. They found it nearby. This is an incredibly difficult and dangerous manhunt. Probably the most difficult. I managed the Eric Rudolph Manhunt in very similar terrain. Ours might have been a little bit more mountainous but the problem is he will see you before you see him. Theres a high likelihood of apprehension. He wont get out of it alive but those that are searching for him with those machetes through those high risk areas, if you will, they will get seen first. He is going to get caught, he is very likely to be armed even though we found the ar15 laying around in the woods somewhere. I pray for these officers for this is a very dangerous manhunt. John you said he wont get out of it alive. I expect to say he wont get away with it. No, he is suicidal. He mentioned in a text that he was going to kill a lot of people and then go kill himself. We dont have any credible sightings outside of that area. I think there is a high likelihood, weve seen this before of either a suicide or a suicide by cop or he is going to force shes going to have a shootout with whoever comes in close quarters with him. John we know it took five years to capture Eric Rudolph but he wasnt looking to kill himself peered he was looking to escape justice. I want to ask you about the shooting in georgia because we have more detail here. The Shooters Mother said she called the school that Wednesday Morning to alert them of an extreme emergency. The Washington Post says the Phone Log Text and interviews provide the strongest indications yet that the officials and Apalachee High School were alerted to concerns about the suspect and may have been looking for him in the minutes before he allegedly killed four people and injured nine with an Ar15 Style Rifle. That call lasted about 10 minutes according to his mother it was at 950 in the morning about a half an hour before the shooting started. She says she talked to the School Counselor. It would appear that the school was aware that there was a pending emergency. It sounds like they were. That 10 minutes is a long time and you can get a lot of detailed information out of a call like that. The mistake was they went looking for him and his classroom and they found the wrong child or the wrong student and took him out. I dont want to be critical of the School Year because it looks like they had a very effective lockdown program. Some teachers reacted effectively. It sounds like someone just didnt pay any attention to detail here in a situation where details are extremely critically important. They finally went looking for him, supposedly, but he was already shooting at that point. I do School Security assessments and these quick threat assessments, you need to act on it very quickly. With the details. John i just know from personal experience that the school going to find somebody often they are hamstrung by the fact that there is almost 2,000 students at that school, was he in the restroom, we dont know where he went but he mightve gone out to get the rifle wherever he had it secretly. His mother said this. I was the one that notified the School Counselor at the high school. I told them it was an extreme emergency and for them to go immediately and find him to check on him. As you pointed out, it is likely they did try to find him but couldnt. But also we learned that his parents, the shooters parents and the school were in communication a week prior to that about his Mental Health. I dont know what mightve come out of that conversation but if you have a kid who in Jackson County was threatening to shoot up his Middle School and then he is alerted or the school is alerted he has some Mental Health issues and the parents call and say there is an extreme emergency, somewhere in that chain you would think there might have been an opportunity to prevent this from happening. Thats three alerts there. They had an effective lockdown but one of the most important things that can happen in a school is this quick threat assessment process. A quick reaction process. He should have been on not a Watch List if you will because that does not exist in the School System but they should have been very much aware of him and as soon as his name popped up they should have been able to react much more quickly than they did unfortunately. John in hindsight it all becomes very clear but at the moment it unfortunately seems to be somewhat murky. Chris, great to get your take on this. Appreciate it. You know, you wonder sandra. Could it have somewhere along The Way if there was an intervention along The Way, Mental Health, Law Enforcement, had it just bend the parents for petes sake. There is reports that bought the kid a gun, an ar 14 for christmas. After there were threats to shoot up a school. A visit by the sheriffs office. Sandra too often it seems that there are red flags. People will always wonder. We are now working our way just over 24 hours away from that big debate Tomorrow Night. Everything will start gearing toward that. Im in for neil at four. John im looking forward to that. Another hour of sander. Thats a good day. Tomorrow night, it really is for all the marbles because of the delay in early voting and north carolina, No One has cast a ballot yet and everybody will be looking at Kamala Harris to see if she explains her evolution on these Policy Issues which she has not gone to any length to do at this point only to say that my values have not changed. Sandra we will dig into these policies. People are asking her if these are policies. They are presented more in the form of talking points but we will do again. Thank you so much for joining us everybody. Im Sandra Smith. John i am John Roberts. We will see you tomorrow. The story with martha starts right now

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