Along with charlie hurt and joe concha. Welcome to the big we can show the big story height second assassination attempt on former president donald trump. The republican presidential candidate says he is safe and well after being targeted while golfing at the trump international golf club in west palm beach this afternoon the suspected gunman's car was pulled over by martin county police he was taken into custody. Also found at the scene the shots were fired were weapons. Hanging on a fence there were two bags of goat pro and a long gone over two months ago the former president survived versus attempt during his rally in butler, pennsylvania. Former presid president has resd to the shooting writing there were gunshots in my vicinity. Before rumor starts spiraling out of control, i wanted you to hear this first. I am safe and well. Nothing will slow me down, i will never surrender. Joining us now is host and former chief of staff to attorney general edward meese and the reagan administration thank you for coming on this evening. I just want to start getting your insights what has been a truly remarkable day. Let's start this way. Who is in charge? who is in charge? we don't have any idea who is in charge of. Who is in charge of protecting a presidential candidate in this country? we can talk about the secret service, the fbi, dhs. Listen to all of your great post with their tremendous experience and it is a fascinating to me i am a little older i served in the reagan administration eyes chief of staff to attorney general meese. What let me tell you what would've happened in that administration but ronald reagan would've picked up the phone, they would've called attorney general meese he would've said you are in charge of getting to the bottom of this you've got 48 hours to do it. Meese, who i worked next to it would have called the treasury secretary, who would've called every department that has any role in federal law enforcement, fbi reports to him, he would've struck christopher right up there was brought them all in secret service, secretary of dhs. Would've been the situation room with the department of justice. Ed meese would've said to all this gathered you better gd get to the bottom of this year 48 hours to report to me and i want to know how you're going to fix this. And i want to know right away how you are going to fix this. Twice on our watch, never. Instead we have very wise people who works at the fbi, worked at secret service who worked in local law enforcement, where's the secret secret service questn records the fbi? no one is a charge because we have a president of the united states who is mentally incapacitated with the vice president of the united states who is incompetent in way over her head. We have an attorney general of the united states who just held about violence and he is in that witness protection program the top three people in charge of law enforcement in the united states of america two of those tweeted one did nothing. This is not about to eating i'm so glad president trump as well. Isn't that nice? the executive branch is run by the president of the united states. Number two the vice president of the united states ultimately the attorney general of the united states they are all awol. They are nowhere. It's perfectly fine if we keep banging heads about the head of the secret service they had of the fbi these are bureaucrats mostly. Mayorkas we know it he is he is a complete incompetent buffoon. But where is the president, the vice president who wants to be president and the attorney general? who was on absolutely nothing to get his hands around this. I am tell you this is someone who served w at the highest levl of the department of justice. Justice would not sit back and wait for a local special agent in charge of miami to take over. They'd be sending guys in the from washington d. C. And meese would have wanted a report every hour on the hour. He would want to know what we were going to do to fix this and i can also tell you the first time around this would have happened had ed meese been the attattorney general and reagan n the president of the united states. This is all evidence to me when i listen to everybody and they're all fantastic but it's all evidence to me of keystone cops who is in charge of what? it depends for this one shoushouldhave done that, no. We need a general who is in charge and says i want to know who screwed up? i want to know what were going to do to fix this next time but what resources we need and i do not want to hear again the secret service does not have resources. Or five african trillion dollars in debt with this administration may be a bit of a climate change of money or money going to illegal aliens may be that money could have been moved into the secret service. I have no idea. We have no time to figure all of that out we have 50 days until a presidential election. It is joe biden seen that concern tonight? where is he? does kamala harris seem concerned she tweeted, isn't that nice? i tweeted too, so what are the attorney general of the united states to they' the scene that n tonight? no. They don't give a you know what they will not take charge of this for the executive branch is running adrift that is what's happening. Every part of it including the best parts about the federal law enforcement parts of it, they are not running adrift. I speak as a former person who served at the highest level of e department of justice. Oakmark, charlie hurt here. Obviously you are exactly right about president biden being completely mia and has been for a long time in the presidency. We are it sort of it back at this at mccafferty butler, pennsylvania shooting there is this professed unity or president biden and others talked about how the going to lower the rhetoric. But now we are back to where you have democrats issuing tweets saying they're glad the guy they called last week hitler, survived another assassination attempt. It strikes me that maybe they didn't really mean it when they said it six weeks ago. Of course i don't mean it if you watch msnbc for about 15 minutes the hate and that drizzle and the contempt that pours out of their pores from joy read and don't get me started with. Cnn, so contemptible every time the mention trump's name they have a constipated look on their face like it is unbearable. The way you have prosecutors talk about donald trump elected prosecutors and a garland of pointed prosecutor. The things they say are so horrendous with some of these judges have to say the democrat party controls the culture, they contcontrol the media they contl the propaganda they now control many of the court systems and that is exactly what you are seeing. Youyou're seeing a oneparty monopolistic system. People have written about this long before me gone to these various regimes the tell tele terry and double terms age old terms trump is always the devil. How harris is the angel. You can see this endless of propaganda and contempt. And by the way they hate you and me too. They made it that hate at least half the country. So of course this contributes to the nut jobs out there and so forth. But still, i don't know how much we can do to fix that. I do know we can do something to fix the executive branch. With got to boot these people out as fast as possible we need to fumigate them when you get people in there who are serious public servants and civil servants we need to put competent people in senior positions. We need to take the fbi back pruning to take all of these federal agencies in particular the police agencies back. Wanting to take the department of justice back and we can do that because right now they are completely and utterly either ooutofcontrol or rudderless i. Mark, it's a joke contra i'm going to read a quote from lester holt reporting on this assassination attempt again the second and 64 days. Here's what he said tonight on the nbc nightly news. You'll get a real kick out of this quote today's apparent assassination attempt comes amid increasingly fierce rhetoric on the campaign trail mr. Trump,'s ruhis running mate jd vance continues to make baseless claims about immigrants in springfield, ohio resulting in a bomb threat. In other words it is trump's fault somebody tried to shoot him today because something said about springfield, ohio which has had an influx of thousands upon thousands of haitian immigrants to their town and trump brings that up and jd vance brings that up there for that's what's leading this up or i will let you go from here because i cannot believe i just saw my now on the nbc nightly news. Sickening, absolutely sickening. I thought it was all the democrats and the antisemitism. I thought it was the democrats and anti israel but thought is all the democrats hunting down jews on the universities and college campuses. I thought they were the problem bui thought it was all the illel immigrants raping, murdering, selling into slavery women and children. Maybe lester holt has a difficulty of adjusting facts around. The more i'm reading and getting information he may have been an antisemite. I do not know what he is we will get the fact that lester holt did not have an effect. If you try to do a google search of the number of times and in donaldtrump is called hitlerk your computer it would melt down. I think your computer it would melt down to dumb down what hitler is in order to try internal listen, they've been trying to turn trump into a nonhuman. That is with the been trying to do from the beginning the dehumanizing ham and they've been doing this and they've written about this in two books the way they treat him, the way they talk about him their facial actions and so forth and so on. In that debate with kamala harris is more of the same the facial tics, you are a disgrace, you are a disgrace to late not substantive how he is a threat. Just stupid things in charlotcharlottesville and all e laws lies want to run against a character they want to create a character. The culture is very sick due to the media. I do not want to miss the fact the problem going on it federal law enforcement today it's at the top it's at the very, very top with the president, with harris, with merrick garland for those of the three who are responsible for what takes place. They are in charge. Not anybody else that is why everybody's running around the keystone cops who is wh who is n charge of what? thank you so much for being here. As you know the acting u. S. Secret service director ronald rowe gave an update to senators on thursday and the internal investigation from the july 13 assassination attempt in senator blumenthal told fox folks are going to be shocked and appalled and astonished. I would argue they already are. How are americans supposed to absorb the findings of that investigation we are now going to be learning so much more about this latest attempt? it seems so much for the american people. We are grownups here. We really have a way to deal with this in and most regimes o not. The safety destroyed our economy and our border are destroying law enforcement destroying our military. The same people destroying our alliances are destroying our fbi and secret service and department of justice and department appellant security. They're good at one thing, they are consistent. And so if you want to fix it our constitution gives you an option the option is to kick them out of office we don't have the sort of thing four years ago. Not any of these areas i talk about we have it now is completely out of control the only way to deal with that right now is we have 50 days is in 50 days of waiting to deal with it. It's one thing for we as citizens to whine about the stuff i want people to him about thomas paine one thing to remember about polar view of the say what can i do? you can do a lot. You are the paul revere's in the thomas paint you need to talk to 10 people, you need to make sure you get people to vote early we cannot be relying on political parties to get out to vote should. We have to get out to about it now we have 50 days to try and fix this. Right now. Mark, for all of us thank you so much for being here tonight and sharing your perspective we appreciate it. Mark levin. Write out fbi's collecting evidence outside of trump national golf club that is where danamarie mcnicholl is tonight. We are still waiting for danamarie mcnicholl to get her information. Paul, i want to go to you actually if we can to continue this conversation. Some of the point mark was making he really hammered on this idea of leadership. Americans went leadership right now and they are not seeing it. Click it beggars belief we still have not gotten a press conference from mayorkas relative to the failings of the secret service. But we should have gotten his first of all his very early in the game after butler but subsequent to that there should have been a press conference about how the service under him is being rebuilt and the measures that were taken to fix what was clearly a flaw it seems that only in our current regime do these flaws seem to fall by the way said in the cutting room floor and no one seems to care think about the signal it sends to our adversaries if we get to apparent clowns who are a low level to manage to almost do with it almost did here not an butler put down in florida what is it say in iran? what does it say two or more radicalized enemies around the world? what it says is america's know it used to be we don't have to worry about these guys they do not seem to be able to protect one of their main vips who may y well be the next president. Of american stature, american status and the fact that we could do this if you are sitting or let's have the shiny and the russians are we don't have to worry about these guys would you be worried comment to my point earlier and asked mark this dennis jason this as well a 20yearold outflank the entire secret service the local police in butler, pennsylvania and getting on that roof. The best line of sight you could possibly imagine, hid a rifle behind an air conditioner went back and got it and got up there in trump does not turn his head to read a chart that he never reached during a speech, he is dead right now. The 20yearold outflank the secret service. Now we have this situation someone is waiting for him at the sixth hole and thank god there is one secret service individual who spotted him. What if the iranians and said let's send in a team five, six, seven people to take out trump. I don't see how they stop this from happening at this point. Into your point should we have there is no shortage i'm going to use this dullness term of useful idiots on the ground in america would only be too happy to facilitate. Reverse the roles imagine how to plan an operation in tehran or in beijing and moscow but think how hard that would be for you if you did not have somebody on the ground to help you or if you are sitting with the adversaries that you are talking about suits happening on the campuses of ripe pickings seem to have some funding or relative to the groups that are protesting on campus. Look, noticing the groups on campus tried to kill donald trump. I'm not making that connection when i am saying if you are sitting where those adversaries are they know they have better reach in. When you consider the border as an overlay i did 15 years of counterterrorism post 911. I can say when somebody showed up on a set who we knew nothing about, had no important friction coming into the country no biometrics there was no footprint every alarm bell went off who is this guy? or did he come from? you got a name the name does not come back from here to washington everybody's the put surveillance you do all kinds of stuff within the law to make sure your button that person up you put them to bed at night. We got 20 million of those that just came into the country brick works following along on this one of the hallmarks the sad hallmarks of 911 it was carried out by a bunch of people who were holding a box cutters. It was the most rudimentary player you could possibly imagine any fast forward to this 20 years later 23 years later and you are wondering so we are writing by a luck again? have we learned nothing? what's it seems that way when you consider the world is getting smaller and more dangerous the old battles are still going on all the stuff he fed all of our lives. Think about if you are sitting where if donald trump becomes a present for four years to exact revenge. So if donald trump gets in the got to know is going to be cleaning this up because we cannot count on anyone else. There seems to be no sense of urgency. A do not need to wait for him to be present for the take our veterans. For example i nt if i'm there to have until 20 january if it were to come to that. And if again if you are sitting where they are the message is it's not that hard. How concerned should we be we are price and the bravery of the secret service agent that was a head by a whole and the people got to the car how concerned should we be about potential boobytraps and other people involved with this individual ryan wesley routh? as we saw in the case out in butler he had some ied's. Fortunately they were not active until he d they did not go off. You always have to allow for that. The general saying is you have to assume they stop people with him he's got people who will help them and that there could be something that could detonate if you go in the room to fast et cetera. You do have to assume that and saved yourself according to the reporting we are getting, and hs not from the area. You've got to wonder what his support network was, how do we keep a heart and soul together? was he working? where's the money coming from these questions are all going to be asked to print right now you don't have the quick answers it looks like some of the answers we get back may be troubling it looks like there may be some overseas travel and things like that. Those ports are accurate there's going to be a lot more questions here and it is a good point you have to assume is going to be real nefarious forces behind him until you know they are not. Thank you so glad you're staying with us tonight. We really appreciate it. Right now the fbi is collecting evidence outside of trump national golf club that is where find danamarie mcnicholl i think we have our signal now she is live on the ground tonight. What is happening there as we speak? right now i'm standing just outside trump international golf course there's a red tape surrounding where i am standing this is a case for many roads around the golf course shut off to the public there is heavy law enforcement presence here. Right now we are about a 12 minute drive from maralago were former president lives playing golf on a sunday is a common occurrence for him. You mention the fbi collecting evidence at another location we have a camera at the mobile command center for the fbi local law enforcement have been doing what it looks like collecting evidence, inspecting what could be a hole or a gap in the shrubbery for this investigation goes well into the night. I want to get to a map of the golf course. You can see holt five in hole six. Those are parallel to a public streets. That is where the investigation is going on right now for that is were fbi investigators are posted up. Former president trump told bret baier this afternoon he was on hold five is quickly taken away off on a golf cart into the clubhouse secret service at in the club that agents are always one whole ahead of the former president to make sure the area is cleared but secret service had an agent on that golf course noticed eight rifle was pointed at a chain link fence along the course and that is when agent shot at the suspect who fled. Palm beach county sheriff said the gunman had in a case dealt rifle with a scope, two backpacks banging on a fence in a go pro camera because the suspect list but 400 5:30 yards away from the former president, hid in the shrubbery while he was playing golf. A witness was a huge help with the police in this investigation who did see that mail run from the golf course bushes and jump into a black nissan by the witness gave the plate numbers to police he pulled over the suspect on i95 in martin county. We now have the name of that suspect ryan wesley routh. He is now in police custody we are waiting on his mug shot. Police are also working on search warrants for his car. Now, when asked about adding more resources for the former president here's what the secret service rep said. Yes the threat level is high. We have increased the amount of assets we have supported. We live in dangerous times. The fbi's asked the community for their help. If you have any information about the suspect or has saw anything call fbi tip line. We are waiting to see if that suspect will be in court tomorrow or later this week. It is pouring rain right now but we will keep you updated and bring you the latest from palm beach i will send it back to you. Thank you the second attempted violent butler. Congresses investor the first shooting for our next guest is a member of the bipartisan task force on the attempted assassination of former president trump let's bring in florida congresswoman laurel lee. Thank you for joining us we appreciate it. Here we have a situation where again just in credible and quite frankly disturbing that for the second time in 64 days someone tried to take the life of the former president who could be the next president. Your thoughts as far as were their failures here? is this the new normal and what can we do to prevent this from happening again? are a couple things that are important outcomes of the secret service job protecting people like president trump for the first is of course we've heard about the differences between the type of resource assigned to a sitting president versus a candidate. There is a second piece it's very important and that is the sesecret service and law enforcement respond to the actual threat environment. So where a particular person whether it is a sitting president or a candidate or another person with a secret service protect e is facing actual threat of a certain level. Those races increase. That's c clearly what we see hee president trump is under serious threat. This is the second now attempt in just a short span of time. Until it is evident we had the highest level of resources assigned to be on his detail and protecting him. There is an important distinction for the events of today that we should note. That is this in the task force we spent a lot of time looking at the failures and the breakdowns and the things that went wrong in the days in the and thehours leading up to thatt on president trump's life. On the ground wit the presidentk swift decisive action to stop this threat. The present is safe tonight. So this was a very significant and important success by the agents who are with the president today. That being said, clearly our work is ongoing to take a look at what resources are there. What resources were assigned and are they adequate to meet this intense threat environment that clearly exists in the united states of america today. A congrecongresswoman, charlt here thank you for joining us. You've been studying this very closely ever since butler. Can you point to any large systemic changes that have been made that should give american citizens in a kind of relief or sort of optimism the government is taking it seriously? i do know within secret service they have been taking a very close look at that allocation of resource question. I believe the level of resources and agents to sign have been increased for the question that is more important is, is it enough? it certainly does not appear several live a threat level that is this is significant in this severe facing president trump. Joe biden and kamala harris should come out right now and direct every agency that has a role hear from the department of justice to the fbi to the secret service to put their full force effort and attention and resources on making sure president trump is kept safe. Just like the other protect these. If t this should be saved under protection. Number secret service agents that we have there's a finite number of agents we need to make sure they are able to hire and retain and train the best and the brightest. If what we are seeing in america today and i believe it is what we are seeing is that we aren't lealeave in an extremely elevatd threat environment. Director wray of the fbi has been telling us this parties testified in front of congress multiple times and made it clear and left us with the warnings of the extraordinary level of threat in our country today we need to be taking a serious look at why that were allocating resources correctly. Do we need more secret service agents are the ones that are there need more support? but whatever it is it's time for the executive branch of our government to make crystal clear that it is their priority and they are willing to do whatever it takes to keep president trump safe weal while he is out on the campaign trail. Congressman lee wanted things i found frustrating since he first assassination attempt on former president trump is a lot of the information we are getting us through congress, which is great. Whistleblowers have been giving them the information instead of what we are still waiting for which is the internal report from the secret service that may come up this week. Here we are another assassination attempt against a formerthe former president and m hoping maybe answers come a little more swiftly. What do you expect to hear from investigators in these coming weeks? kelly put pressure on them to give the american people answers quicker we will be 50 days from election day very shortly. You are making such an important point because transparency is one of the most critical things we can provide for the american people right now. That was a key difference between the butler situation and today. It's a good thing that one of the first things that happened was law enforcement came for forward. Secret service, local law enforcement they made themselves available they had a press conference. They shared what they knew of course that's only partial information. There will be more information coming out in the weeks to come. One other key distinction here is that we have the suspect in custody. So one of the things we will be finding out here in the coming days is he talking? has he shared information with investigators? that is one thing that could be a critical difference will have the opportunity to take a look at a social media, his contacts. What is he doing? what can we learn about handbook would glean? one back to butler that is exactly the type of information for the first thing we will heae is really about the preparation, the planning, and some of things that went wrong that day. We know already the planning and the site preparation obviously was not done adequately. The perimeter should vent broader. The buildings there at the site were not very numerous. There were buildings that man was able to get up on that roof should have been secured. The other really important thing we learned about butler is a failure to communicate. We had a team of local law enforcement and federal law enforcement they are together but their communication was not adequate. If one person saw something another person there might not have known it which is so foundational to the success of any type of security mission. I believe the internal report that we see will have a lot of information about the mistakes that were made in the planning and the execution of securing the butler rally. We hope to also see a lot more information of the shooter what led him to that moment what caused him to take that horrific action? so for us getting out there and seeing the site has been so important for the task force a number of us have been out there some of us have been out there twice, to have the ability to walk those grounds and seaward the men and women and law enforcement were. Where the rally goers were and help us understand the type of action and response that's necessary by secret service and planning and preparing for an event like that. Congressman lee thank you so much for talking to us but we are up against a hard break but i am curious would short task force also take on the second attempted assassination would that be something totally different? perks that's a great question. I can tell you for certain there will be elements of our analysis that are equally occult applicable here. The things about training resources procedures, making sure what they're doing to prepare the sites are safe all that will have applicability not just in understanding what was wrong and butler, pennsylvania but understanding what we need to do to be sure the secret service is that agency we count on it to be. Agents who are protecting some of the most important threatened people in our country. That report will certainly have a bearing. Not just on the investigation and transparency but here where we go from here to keep president trump safe. Congressman laura lee you're doing important work thank you so much. The response from vice president kamala harris donald trump's running mate after the second assassination attempt on his life. Seniors at a farmers market. Right? don't get me wrong i love a fresh heirloom, but it's like those companies think we're all the same. That's why i chose humana. Before i signed up, i spoke to someone who actually listened to what i needed. 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Singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ this just in florida governor desantis posting on x state of florida it will be conducting its own investigation regarding the attempted assassination of a trump at trump international golf club for the people deserve the truth about the wouldbe assassin and how he was able to get within 500 yards of the former president and current gop nominee. House speaker mike johnson also posting on x he and his wife kelly meet with former president trump earlier today saying quotes no leader in american history has endured more attacks restrained remained as strong and resilient. He is unstoppable. Lucas tomlinson's life at the white house following all of this for us. We are awaiting a statement from president biden. We have not seen him in person today after the fbi says this was a second attempted assassination of former president donald trump and just the last two months. We have heard from vice president kamala harris she took 2x earlier and posted the following i have been briefed on reports of gunshots fired near former president trump and his property in florida and i am glad he is safe. Violence has no place in america. Then they will hear from new york's attorney general letitia james who said quote political violence in any form cannot be accepted or normalized in this country. Earlier florida congressman mike wallace the first green beret elected to congress says the loud a rhetoric of the violence of rhetoric needs to be turned down. This rhetoric against president trump, this in the narrative that he will be the next dictator, the next hitler, it has got to stop. Enough is enough. Stop it on the left. It isn't bad enough we have an enemy of the united states, iran with active plots to kill him with multiple assassination attempts in a matter of months. Rex and molly in the last few seconds we have a new statement from president biden stressed out. Going to read it it says quote i have been briefed by my team regarding federal law enforcement is investigating as a possible assassination attempt a former president trump today. A suspect is in custody i commend the work of the secret service and their law enforcement partners for that vigilance in their efforts to keep the former president and those around him safe. I am relieved the former president is on harbor there is an active investigation into this incident is law enforcement gathers more details about what happened. As i've said many times there is no place for political violence for any violence ever in our country have directed my team to continue to ensure secret service has every resource, capability protective measure necessary to ensure the former president's continued safety. We also heard earlier during that press conference in palm beach for the palm beach county sheriff around international golf club more secure? at this level he is at right now, he is not the sitting president. He was we would have had golf course around it because it's not securities limited to the areas the secret service seems possible. So i would imagine next time he comes to a golf course there probably will be more people around the perimeter. But, the secret service did exactly what they should have done. The sheriff said the attempted assassin was only three 5:30 53rd yards away fr the former president with an ak47 rifle with a scope. He said that is not a far distance with that type of weapon. Lucas tomlinson for the white house bring us the latest information including the new statement from president biden, thank you, lucas said. What is evidence collection look like following the incident at trump's golf course? fformer secret service agent cia officer dan emmett joins us now but thank you for joining us. I know there is some limitation of what you can speculate on because you do not know everything. But, i'm sort of curious about these ceramic tiles, these ceramic plates that were in the suspects bag along with the go pro camera. What do you make of all of that? thanks for having me on. What i would make of these ceramic plates is that is one of the things used to deflect bullets every ballistic vest today, the more highprofile ones you have a ceramic body armor within them. It could've been used for cover. He might've been thinking he was going to get into a protracted gunfight. Heat needed some covers far as the camera is concerned i can only speculate it would seem he wanted to perhaps film the attack for posterity i do not know put on social media if he did escape. But those are all things will come forth in the investigation. And unfortunately we have a live person to interrogate this time. And so we can hopefully get to the answers of those questions. And dan, thank you for helping us out there all of this. I am curious about the getaway car. He was able to place a getaway car, run to it and it was close enough to him he could get there and take off before anyone caught up with him and thank god for that witness who is there to take pictures of the plates. It's going to be a surveillance camera brought into this and from the area when he placed his vehicle there. Welcome everyone is under surveillance 24/7 that they know it or not. To be observed leaving the area and he was. It's going to come forth when the investigation is completed and he has been interrogated but i can guarantee you he is in for very long nights. Maybe by tomorrow will have some answers to the questions for. Dan, it is joe concha. Let's say you were interrogating this suspect. What would be the first three questions you would ask him? i would probably start out by asking him or letting him know what we had. You were observed behind a fence with a rifle. By read there behind the fence with a rifle? what was your intention with the rifle? did you intend to shoot the president? because if you follow up any way, shape, form are you working for somebody? is there another group behind what you are doing? are you a solo individual? in other words it seems a croissant butler pennsylvania it was a 20 year old coyote who out like the secret service and again we have a lone individual here. You have to wonder in this case was the motivated by some other group or something behind him that may have led to this moment? it will certainly be a part of the interrogation. One of the biggest, most important things about getting someone like this alive at the end of it all is so you can find out if there was a conspiracy are there other people involved? what are the motives? why did you do it? that's one of the biggest shortcomings of the kennedy assassination. You lost all his wallpaper losing him you can see all the conspiracy theories that came forward. By brexit being killed in butler, the same thing. You have a number of conspiracy theories that have come out there will be none of that this time they will get to the bottom of it and discover if there was in fact a group or others involved with the individual. Is it tell you anything in particular the effect this guy did not want to die? cooksey may very well have been prepared to die had the president walked another 350 or 400 yards pretty heavy taken the shot there would've been massive fire brought on to his location before he was shot at, as it was by the secret service agent that discovered him. Whether he wanted to commit suicide by cop, whether he thought he might be able to escape, i do not know. It is going to be very interesting to find out the answer to those questions. Cooks are still have so many questions. Thank you for your time today, we appreciate it. You are welcome, thank you for asking me. Former assistant director joins us in now. Chris, thank you for being here. I do have one question regarding this suspect. Llaw enforcement said when he ws arrested he was quote calm, flat calm and not asking with this was about. What does that tell you? we do know he is a pretty extensive criminal record. It's not the worst record but he has been arrested five, six, seven times he is no stranger to being arrested. The fact they described him as you said calm. He knew he knew why they were there. If it was just one of us driving on the highway it i95 a get pulled over by 10 police cars we would have some questions. We would have we would look surprised, act surprised. Looks like this guy knew exactly why he was being pulled over. And chris, molly here. I went to ask is this it goes afford they are digging into the car and whatever home or apartment or facilities he may have, what are you concerned they may find? is this an individual who could have planted boobytraps? our law enforcement officer still at risk question rick is it someone who has likely worked with other people? you are always going to assume the possibility of bombs or boobytraps. And a guy like this, under these circumstances in their house but they'll go in carefully and very deliberately. The big question is how did he know to be at that place, that time, that specific time? that is the elephant in the room here. They need that question and answer did they get that information or follow conduct surveillance? keep surveilling the former president of united sages under secret service protection. He's playing this out. The backpack with ceramics to form a sniper's nest he was anticipating a sh shootout. Someone said not a random person to show up with an ak47. Quickset is the thing, you look at the former president's scschedulein terms of donald tr. This golf outing was not on it. This attempted shooter appeared to know that he would be there. Is he plays golf a lot yet there he was ready on the sixth a whole to take the former president ouch. Where would you go from here based on that nugget? one and part is focusing in on him and his social media in his electronic devices and all of the things that you do to round out the suspect it. I would talk to everyone who knew about trump's schedule that day. Talk to every single one of them and interview them. When i was in iraq there was an assassination attempt against the secretary of defense. We talk to everybody who knew something about his schedule. Who knew? who could have possibly leaked this information out? cooksey charlie hurt here. Are there anywhere with got a hard break coming up do you see so far any repeats that concern you with what we have seen today concern to what we saw and butler in terms of failures by the secret service? it's a little early. It's hard for me too see the land i'm a golfer you how you could sneak up on a golf course in some brush. In terms of having someone walking the perimeter while they are walking the golf course. Former assistant director of the fbi, we want to thank you so much. Breaking news coverage of the second assassination attempt a formerofformer president trump. Liberty mutual customized my car insurance so i saved hundreds. With the money i saved i thought i'd get a wax figure of myself. Cool right? look at this craftmanship. I mean they even got my nostrils right. It's just nice to know that years after i'm gone this guy will be standing the test of ti. . . He's melting! oh jeez. . . Nooo. . . Oh gaa. . . 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Join the movement to end hunger and together we can open endless possibilities for people to thrive. Visit feedingamerica. Org/actnow we continue continue coverage second assassination attempt against former president trump, so many questions. Freud open it up for the panel here for security, the future of this campaign and leadership. Going to start with you, paul, i simply cannot believe we are here again. It is amazing, incident? were going to know a lot more quickly here there's a couple things you can contextualize this let's go back to the directors. The last interview. Did he have insight information or i think more likely he had done some sort of surveillance. He either did a follow or knew the effects that donald trump plays golf at that location on sundays. So one of things are going to do is how to get here? did they drive that car? is it a rental do not dump the computer in the car did he fly in the go back to his financials when did he get here, how long? if he was there for two months they dumped a car and said what every sunday he's in and around that area then they noticed is hohishouse probably picked donad trump up. The other thing is is and do noe surprised if he does talk. Which may be little counter intuitively but they guys who do this sort of thing and i'm reminded of counter terrorism suspects they have this is how they talk to the worldly sort of events he's making a statement. And as i said earlier, sometimes with these guys the proms is not getting them to talk getting them to shut up. They want to make their big point it's hard to focus them and keep them narrow because them and asked to grow into. You cannot say that for every instance and for all i know this guy won't say a word. I have a feeling we will start to get some stuff out of him that's going to clarify a lot of what we are wondering because he is a life we should get a lot more sunlight. We saw a statement from president biden on this lucas tomlinson was reporting on we have not heard from the present he did not step to the mic tonight. The first assassination attempt there was this a moment president biden and others talking about trying to lower the temperature of calling thise sky hitler every 10 minutes. Hen that has gone out the window. I keep thinking about all day today is former president trump's family. Where was the former first lady when she learned about this one? where was it barren who is in college now when he learned about this one. Where the other sons and daughters when they learned about this one? the guy he's a pretty funny guy he likes to joke about things he's arty been making jokes about this the way he did the first one. It's easy to forget. But he has a real family. He's a real guy he's a guy that does not want to die and it is the responsibility of the federal government and the secret service to make sure he is protected and he can participate. Without having to endure things like this for you and i cover politics but to charlie's point were talking about a family here sean hannity talked to eric trump was at my father only has so many lives how many bullets can he dodge? were going to be out there covering this it's got to change read something's got to change. With were things he won of ce his answers are expected to get some internal report from the secret service this week. The reason it so concerning its taken that long to get to that point is because of concerns about the safety of our political candidates part specifically president trump in this particular incident and here we go again. We did that report have something in it that could have been used to keep him safe? and why is it taking so long get the answers? we get them quicker the sign will be demand them quicker this time? that sound bite of the sheriff sang at this time he is not the sitting president that explains what he was not protected to the degree probably should have been. I can see that being played over and over again, what you think? what to make your stomach turn quite frankly parade this could be the 47th present the former president obviously, neck and neck race with kamala harris right now pretty should be afforded every possible resource as far as protection pretty objective butler, pennsylvania the fact they allowed a 20yearold to get up on that building, that roof we had complete line of sight no one, no one was there to stop him. That is remarkably think we would learn from them but sure enough here we are had a gunman at the sixth hole with an ak ready to take out the president. Thank god there was the one individual in the secret service that was able to prevent that the abel he was able to get that close was a two inch pot with a scope is amazing. The suspected shooter brian ruth democracy is on the bow and we cannot lose unquote he posted that on his social media to feed it. That sounds a lot like what we hear on cable news every night's rhetoric becomes a reality this is real and we have to turn down the temperature at this point joe biden needs to get in front of a microphone or kamala harris has to get in front of a microphone or camera and talk about this big express invites not stepped up to the megaphone released a statement that says i have been briefed by my team regarding what federal law enforcement is investigating as a possible assassination attempt a former president trump today. I suspect is in custody i commend the work of the secret service on their law enforcement partners for their vigilance and their efforts to keep the former president and those around him safe. I am relieved the former president is unharmed for there there's an active investigation into this incident is law enforcement gathers more details as to what happened for as i've said many times or someplace for political violence or for any violence ever in our country but have directed my team to continue to ensure the secret service has every resource capability and protective measure necessary to ensure the we will live it at that and sunday night in america, with trey gaudi starts right now. See map ♪ ♪ ♪ welcome to sunday