Along with charlie hurt and joe concha. Welcome to the big we can show the big story height second assassination attempt on former president donald trump. The republican presidential candidate says he is safe and well after being targeted while golfing at the trump international golf club in west palm beach this afternoon the suspected gunman's car was pulled over by martin county police he was taken into custody. Also found at the scene the shots were fired were weapons. Hanging on a fence there were two bags of goat pro and a long gone over two months ago the former president survived versus attempt during his rally in butler, pennsylvania. Former presid president has resd to the shooting writing there were gunshots in my vicinity. Before rumor starts spiraling out of control, i wanted you to hear this first. I am safe and well. Nothing will slow me down, i will never surrender. Joining us now is host and former chief of staff to attorney general edward meese and the reagan administration thank you for coming on this evening. I just want to start getting your insights what has been a truly remarkable day. Let's start this way. Who is in charge? who is in charge? we don't have any idea who is in charge of. Who is in charge of protecting a presidential candidate in this country? we can talk about the secret service, the fbi, dhs. Listen to all of your great post with their tremendous experience and it is a fascinating to me i am a little older i served in the reagan administration eyes chief of staff to attorney general meese. What let me tell you what would've happened in that administration but ronald reagan would've picked up the phone, they would've called attorney general meese he would've said you are in charge of getting to the bottom of this you've got 48 hours to do it. Meese, who i worked next to it would have called the treasury secretary, who would've called every department that has any role in federal law enforcement, fbi reports to him, he would've struck christopher right up there was brought them all in secret service, secretary of dhs. Would've been the situation room with the department of justice. Ed meese would've said to all this gathered you better gd get to the bottom of this year 48 hours to report to me and i want to know how you're going to fix this. And i want to know right away how you are going to fix this. Twice on our watch, never. Instead we have very wise people who works at the fbi, worked at secret service who worked in local law enforcement, where's the secret secret service questn records the fbi? no one is a charge because we have a president of the united states who is mentally incapacitated with the vice president of the united states who is incompetent in way over her head. We have an attorney general of the united states who just held about violence and he is in that witness protection program the top three people in charge of law enforcement in the united states of america two of those tweeted one did nothing. This is not about to eating i'm so glad president trump as well. Isn't that nice? the executive branch is run by the president of the united states. Number two the vice president of the united states ultimately the attorney general of the united states they are all awol. They are nowhere. It's perfectly fine if we keep banging heads about the head of the secret service they had of the fbi these are bureaucrats mostly. Mayorkas we know it he is he is a complete incompetent buffoon. But where is the president, the vice president who wants to be president and the attorney general? who was on absolutely nothing to get his hands around this. I am tell you this is someone who served w at the highest levl of the department of justice. Justice would not sit back and wait for a local special agent in charge of miami to take over. They'd be sending guys in the from washington d. C. And meese would have wanted a report every hour on the hour. He would want to know what we were going to do to fix this and i can also tell you the first time around this would have happened had ed meese been the attattorney general and reagan n the president of the united states. This is all evidence to me when i listen to everybody and they're all fantastic but it's all evidence to me of keystone cops who is in charge of what? it depends for this one shoushouldhave done that, no. We need a general who is in charge and says i want to know who screwed up? i want to know what were going to do to fix this next time but what resources we need and i do not want to hear again the secret service does not have resources. Or five african trillion dollars in debt with this administration may be a bit of a climate change of money or money going to illegal aliens may be that money could have been moved into the secret service. I have no idea. We have no time to figure all of that out we have 50 days until a presidential election. It is joe biden seen that concern tonight? where is he? does kamala harris seem concerned she tweeted, isn't that nice? i tweeted too, so what are the attorney general of the united states to they' the scene that n tonight? no. They don't give a you know what they will not take charge of this for the executive branch is running adrift that is what's happening. Every part of it including the best parts about the federal law enforcement parts of it, they are not running adrift. I speak as a former person who served at the highest level of e department of justice. Oakmark, charlie hurt here. Obviously you are exactly right about president biden being completely mia and has been for a long time in the presidency. We are it sort of it back at this at mccafferty butler, pennsylvania shooting there is this professed unity or president biden and others talked about how the going to lower the rhetoric. But now we are back to where you have democrats issuing tweets saying they're glad the guy they called last week hitler, survived another assassination attempt. It strikes me that maybe they didn't really mean it when they said it six weeks ago. Of course i don't mean it if you watch msnbc for about 15 minutes the hate and that drizzle and the contempt that pours out of their pores from joy read and don't get me started with. Cnn, so contemptible every time the mention trump's name they have a constipated look on their face like it is unbearable. The way you have prosecutors talk about donald trump elected prosecutors and a garland of pointed prosecutor. The things they say are so horrendous with some of these judges have to say the democrat party controls the culture, they contcontrol the media they contl the propaganda they now control many of the court systems and that is exactly what you are seeing. Youyou're seeing a oneparty monopolistic system. People have written about this long before me gone to these various regimes the tell tele terry and double terms age old terms trump is always the devil. How harris is the angel. You can see this endless of propaganda and contempt. And by the way they hate you and me too. They made it that hate at least half the country. So of course this contributes to the nut jobs out there and so forth. But still, i don't know how much we can do to fix that. I do know we can do something to fix the executive branch. With got to boot these people out as fast as possible we need to fumigate them when you get people in there who are serious public servants and civil servants we need to put competent people in senior positions. We need to take the fbi back pruning to take all of these federal agencies in particular the police agencies back. Wanting to take the department of justice back and we can do that because right now they are completely and utterly either ooutofcontrol or rudderless i. Mark, it's a joke contra i'm going to read a quote from lester holt reporting on this assassination attempt again the second and 64 days. Here's what he said tonight on the nbc nightly news. You'll get a real kick out of this quote today's apparent assassination attempt comes amid increasingly fierce rhetoric on the campaign trail mr. Trump,'s ruhis running mate jd vance continues to make baseless claims about immigrants in springfield, ohio resulting in a bomb threat. In other words it is trump's fault somebody tried to shoot him today because something said about springfield, ohio which has had an influx of thousands upon thousands of haitian immigrants to their town and trump brings that up and jd vance brings that up there for that's what's leading this up or i will let you go from here because i cannot believe i just saw my now on the nbc nightly news. Sickening, absolutely sickening. I thought it was all the democrats and the antisemitism. I thought it was the democrats and anti israel but thought is all the democrats hunting down jews on the universities and college campuses. I thought they were the problem bui thought it was all the illel immigrants raping, murdering, selling into slavery women and children. Maybe lester holt has a difficulty of adjusting facts around. The more i'm reading and getting information he may have been an antisemite. I do not know what he is we will get the fact that lester holt did not have an effect. If you try to do a google search of the number of times and in donaldtrump is called hitlerk your computer it would melt down. I think your computer it would melt down to dumb down what hitler is in order to try internal listen, they've been trying to turn trump into a nonhuman. That is with the been trying to do from the beginning the dehumanizing ham and they've been doing this and they've written about this in two books the way they treat him, the way they talk about him their facial actions and so forth and so on. In that debate with kamala harris is more of the same the facial tics, you are a disgrace, you are a disgrace to late not substantive how he is a threat. Just stupid things in charlotcharlottesville and all e laws lies want to run against a character they want to create a character. The culture is very sick due to the media. I do not want to miss the fact the problem going on it federal law enforcement today it's at the top it's at the very, very top with the president, with harris, with merrick garland for those of the three who are responsible for what takes place. They are in charge. Not anybody else that is why everybody's running around the keystone cops who is wh who is n charge of what? thank you so much for being here. As you know the acting u. S. Secret service director ronald rowe gave an update to senators on thursday and the internal investigation from the july 13 assassination attempt in senator blumenthal told fox folks are going to be shocked and appalled and astonished. I would argue they already are. How are americans supposed to absorb the findings of that investigation we are now going to be learning so much more about this latest attempt? it seems so much for the american people. We are grownups here. We really have a way to deal with this in and most regimes o not. The safety destroyed our economy and our border are destroying law enforcement destroying our military. The same people destroying our alliances are destroying our fbi and secret service and department of justice and department appellant security. They're good at one thing, they are consistent. And so if you want to fix it our constitution gives you an option the option is to kick them out of office we don't have the sort of thing four years ago. Not any of these areas i talk about we have it now is completely out of control the only way to deal with that right now is we have 50 days is in 50 days of waiting to deal with it. It's one thing for we as citizens to whine about the stuff i want people to him about thomas paine one thing to remember about polar view of the say what can i do? you can do a lot. You are the paul revere's in the thomas paint you need to talk to 10 people, you need to make sure you get people to vote early we cannot be relying on political parties to get out to vote should. We have to get out to about it now we have 50 days to try and fix this. Right now. Mark, for all of us thank you so much for being here tonight and sharing your perspective we appreciate it. Mark levin. Write out fbi's collecting evidence outside of trump national golf club that is where danamarie mcnicholl is tonight. We are still waiting for danamarie mcnicholl to get her information. Paul, i want to go to you actually if we can to continue this conversation. Some of the point mark was making he really hammered on this idea of leadership. Americans went leadership right now and they are not seeing it. Click it beggars belief we still have not gotten a press conference from mayorkas relative to the failings of the secret service. But we should have gotten his first of all his very early in the game after butler but subsequent to that there should have been a press conference about how the service under him is being rebuilt and the measures that were taken to fix what was clearly a flaw it seems that only in our current regime do these flaws seem to fall by the way said in the cutting room floor and no one seems to care think about the signal it sends to our adversaries if we get to apparent clowns who are a low level to manage to almost do with it almost did here not an butler put down in florida what is it say in iran? what does it say two or more radicalized enemies around the world? what it says is america's know it used to be we don't have to worry about these guys they do not seem to be able to protect one of their main vips who may y well be the next president. Of american stature, american status and the fact that we could do this if you are sitting or let's have the shiny and the russians are we don't have to worry about these guys would you be worried comment to my point earlier and asked mark this dennis jason this as well a 20yearold outflank the entire secret service the local police in butler, pennsylvania and getting on that roof. The best line of sight you could possibly imagine, hid a rifle behind an air conditioner went back and got it and got up there in trump does not turn his head to read a chart that he never reached during a speech, he is dead right now. The 20yearold outflank the secret service. Now we have this situation someone is waiting for him at the sixth hole and thank god there is one secret service individual who spotted him. What if the iranians and said let's send in a team five, six, seven people to take out trump. I don't see how they stop this from happening at this point. Into your point should we have there is no shortage i'm going to use this dullness term of useful idiots on the ground in america would only be too happy to facilitate. Reverse the roles imagine how to plan an operation in tehran or in beijing and moscow but think how hard that would be for you if you did not have somebody on the ground to help you or if you are sitting with the adversaries that you are talking about suits happening on the campuses of ripe pickings seem to have some funding or relative to the groups that are protesting on campus. Look, noticing the groups on campus tried to kill donald trump. I'm not making that connection when i am saying if you are sitting where those adversaries are they know they have better reach in. When you consider the border as an overlay i did 15 years of counterterrorism post 911. I can say when somebody showed up on a set who we knew nothing about, had no important friction coming into the country no biometrics there was no footprint every alarm bell went off who is this guy? or did he come from? you got a name the name does not come back from here to washington everybody's the put surveillance you do all kinds of stuff within the law to make sure your button that person up you put them to bed at night. We got 20 million of those that just came into the country brick works following along on this one of the hallmarks the sad hallmarks of 911 it was carried out by a bunch of people who were holding a box cutters. It was the most rudimentary player you could possibly imagine any fast forward to this 20 years later 23 years later and you are wondering so we are writing by a luck again? have we learned nothing? what's it seems that way when you consider the world is getting smaller and more dangerous the old battles are still going on all the stuff he fed all of our lives. Think about if you are sitting where if donald trump becomes a present for four years to exact revenge. So if donald trump gets in the got to know is going to be cleaning this up because we cannot count on anyone else. There seems to be no sense of urgency. A do not need to wait for him to be present for the take our veterans. For example i nt if i'm there to have until 20 january if it were to come to that. And if again if you are sitting where they are the message is it's not that hard. How concerned should we be we are price and the bravery of the secret service agent that was a head by a whole and the people got to the car how concerned should we be about potential boobytraps and other people involved with this individual ryan wesley routh? as we saw in the case out in butler he had some ied's. Fortunately they were not active until he d they did not go off. You always have to allow for that. The general saying is you have to assume they stop people with him he's got people who will help them and that there could be something that could detonate if you go in the room to fast et cetera. You do have to assume that and saved yourself according to the reporting we are getting, and hs not from the area. You've got to wonder what his support network was, how do we keep a heart and soul together? was he working? where's the money coming from these questions are all going to be asked to print right now you don't have the quick answers it looks like some of the answers we get back may be troubling it looks like there may be some overseas travel and things like that. Those ports are accurate there's going to be a lot more questions here and it is a good point you have to assume is going to be real nefarious forces behind him until you know they are not. Thank you so glad you're staying with us tonight. We really appreciate it. Right now the fbi is collecting evidence outside of trump national golf club that is where find danamarie mcnicholl i think we have our signal now she is live on the ground tonight. What is happening there as we speak? right now i'm standing just outside trump international golf course there's a red tape surrounding where i am standing this is a case for many roads around the golf course shut off to the public there is heavy law enforcement presence here. Right now we are about a 12 minute drive from maralago were former president lives playing golf on a sunday is a common occurrence for him. You mention the fbi collecting evidence at another location we have a camera at the mobile command center for the fbi local law enforcement have been doing what it looks like collecting evidence, inspecting what could be a hole or a gap in the shrubbery for this investigation goes well into the night. I want to get to a map of the golf course. You can see holt five in hole six. Those are parallel to a public streets. That is where the investigation is going on right now for that is were fbi investigators are posted up. Former president trump told bret baier this afternoon he was on hold five is quickly taken away off on a golf cart into the clubhouse secret service at in the club that agents are always one whole ahead of the former president to make sure the area is cleared but secret service had an agent on that golf course noticed eight rifle was pointed at a chain link fence along the course and that is when agent shot at the suspect who fled. Palm beach county sheriff said the gunman had in a case dealt rifle with a scope, two ba