Bret good evening im Bret Baier its five weeks until election day. Martha we are waiting for the debate to get started with ohio senator j. D. Vance from the top from the Trump Ticket and minnesota governor Tim Walz coming Face To face as there is an active backdrop in america for issues for them to deal with tonight. Bret its the Cbs Vice President ial debate beginning in moments thanks for watching it here with us on fox news. Tonight it the matchup comes as the u. S. Faces escalate in crises at home and abroad with devastation of Hurricane Helene to iranian strakes in israel. All that weighing heavily on the campaigns and on stage tonight. Martha they both share a midwestern background and are expected to have stark views on opposing issues and well see how that plays on the Debate Stage. Postgame and analysis afterwards. Norah im Norah Odonnell and thanks for joining us for the Cbs Vice President ial debate. We welcome our viewers on cbs and other networks here in the u. S. And Around The World. We have a consequential night ahead and our focus is the issues that matter to you, the voter. Introducing the candidates, minnesota democratic governor Tim Walz and ohio republican senator j. D. Vance, Tonight Meeting for the first time. Margaret i margaret brennan, in order to have a thoughtful and civil debate these are the rules both campaigns agreed to it. Questions will be directed at one candidate who has 2 minutes to respond. The other candidate will be allowed 2 minutes for rebuttal and each candidate gets another minute to make further points. One additional minute each at discretion of the moderator. The primary role of moderators is to facilitate debate between candidates and enforce the rules and provide candidates with opportunity to factcheck the by each other. Norah Cbs News reserves the right to mute microphones to maintain decorum. We havent shared topics or questions with the campaigns. The stage is set, a governor, senator, thank you both for joining us lets get started. Tonight the country faces several unfolding crises with the Middle East on the brink of war and american suffering from the catastrophic impact of Hurricane Helene. I labor has 25,000 dockworkers picketing. We begin tonight with the Middle East, margaret . Margaret thank you norah, earlier Today Iran launched its largest attack on israel but it failed thanks to joint u. S. And israeli defensive action. President biden deployed more than 40,000 u. S. Military personnel and assets to the region over the past year to prevent a regional war. Iran is weakened, but the u. S. Still considers it the largest State Sponsor of terrorism in the world and has did drastically reduced the time it would take to develop a nuclear weapon. It is now down to just 12 weeks time. Governor Walt Governor walz if you are the final voice in the Situation Room would you support or oppose a preemptive strike by israel on iran you have 2 minutes. Thank you and thank you for those joining us at home tonight. Lets remember where this started, October Seventh where hamas terrorists massacred 1400 israelis and took prisoners. Israels ability to defend itself is fundamental. Its issued to get its hostages back is fundamental. And ending the military in crisis in gaza. But the expansion of israel and its proxies is an absolute Fund Bill fundamental its city for the u. S. Leadership there. You saw that today where with our israeli partners and coalition able to stop the incoming attack. What is fundamental here is the steady leadership will matter. It is clear as the world saw on the Debate Stage a few weeks ago and nearly 80yearold Donald Trump talking about Crowd Sizes is not what we need in this moment. But it isnt just that, its those closest to Donald Trump that understand how dangerous he is when the world is this dangerous Periods Chief of staff John Kelly said he was the most flawed Human Being he ever met. Both of his secretaries of defence and his National Security advisors said he should be nowhere near the White House. The person closest to them, to Donald Trump, said he is unfit for the highest office which was Senator Vance. What weve seen from Vice President harris steady leadership and a calmness to be able to draw on the coalitions to bring them together. Understanding that our Allies Matter and when our allies see Donald Trump turned towards a Vladimir Putin, turned towards north korea, when we see that type of fickleness around Holding Coalitions together its an issue. We will stay committed and as the Vice President said today we will protect forces and allied forces and there will be consequences. Norah governor your time is up, Senator Vance your same question. Would you support or oppose a preemptive strike by israel on iran, 2 minutes. Vance i will answer The Question, Thanks Governor and thanks to cbs for hosting the debate and thanks most important leave the american people watching this Evening And Care enough about the country to pay attention to this Vice President ial debate. I will answer The Question but i also want to introduce myself as many people dont know who won or either of us are. I was in a Workingclass Family my mother requiring Food Assistance for periods and my grandfather needing social Security Help to raise me. My mother startled also with addiction in my early life. I went to college on the g. I. Bill after i was in the marine corps and served in iraq. I ask to be a Vice President with gratitude for this country and The American Dream that made it possible to live my dreams and most importantly i know many of you are worried about the chaos in the world and feeling the american Drina Hymn is unattainable. I want to convince you over the next 90 minutes that if we get leadership in the White House, to get trump back in the White House it will be attainable once again. We also do have to remember as much as Governor Walls accuse Donald Trump of being an agent of chaos, Donald Trump delivered stability in the world and did so by establishing effective deterrence. People were afraid of stepping out of line. Iran which launched the attack received 100 Billion in unfrozen assets thanks to the Harris Administration. What did they use the money for . They are using it for weapons launched against her allies and god forbid eventually, launched against the united states as well. Donald trump realize for people to fear the united states you need peace through strength. They need to recognize that they got out of line the United States Global Leadership would put Stability And Peace back in the world. You asked about a preemptive Strike Margaret and i want to answer The Question. Its up to israel to what they need to do to keep up their country safe and we will support our allies whenever they are fighting the bad guys. Thats the right approach to take with the israel question. Margaret Governor Walls Governor Walz do you want to respond to that . When Donald Trump was in office and we sometimes hear Revisionist History, when trump was in the office we had a coalition of nations that boxed iranian nuclear program to advance. Trump pulled the program and put nothing in its place so they are closer to a nuclear weapons and they were before because of his fickle leadership. When iran shot down in american aircraft in international airspace, trump tweeted. Thats his standard diplomacy. When iranian missiles fell near u. S. Troops and they got traumatic Brain Injuries . Trump wrote it off as headaches. Our allies understand that Donald Trump is fickle and he will go to whoever is the most flattery or where it makes sense to him. Steady leadership like he witnessed today, like you witnessed in april. Both iranian attacks were repelled, the coalition a strong and we need the steady Leadership Harris provides. Norah Senator Vance of the u. S. Had a diplomatic deal with iran to temporarily pause parts of its nuclear Program And President trump exited the deal at the time. Recently he did say just five days ago the u. S. Must now make a diplomatic deal with iran because the consequences are impossible. Did he make a mistake, one minute. Vance first of all margaret, the plums he is not a dirty word and what he said was extraordinary. Iran is as close to a nuclear Weapon Today as ever been and Governor Walz you blame Donald Trump, who has been president for the last three and a half years, who has been Vice President last three and a half years your Running Mate not mine. The sequence of events that led us to where we are right now and we cant ignore October Seventh which i appreciate him bringing up. When did iran and hamas in their Proxies Attack Israel . It was during the administration of Kamala Harris. He can criticize harris tweets but Diplomacy And Peace through strength is that you bring stability to a broken world. Donald trump has done it before and ask yourself at home. When was the last time, im 40 years old now, when was the last time the american president didnt have a major Conflict Break out . The only answer is when trump was president. Margaret norah . Norah now we turn to hurricane the helene. The storm could become one of the deadliest on record with more than 160 people dead and hundreds missing. Scientists say that Climate Change makes these hurricanes larger, stronger, and more deadly because of the historic rainfall. Senator vance according to Cbs News bowling, seven in ten americans and 60 of republicans under the age of 45 favour the u. S. Taking steps to reduce Climate Change. What responsibility, Senator Vance, does the Trump Administration have to reduce the impact of Climate Change. 2 minutes. Vance first lets start with the hurricane its an unspeakable human tragedy. I saw today a photograph of two grandparents on a roof with a 6yearold child. It was the last photograph taken of them as the roof collapsed and those innocent people lost their lives. I join Governor Walz and that our prayers go out to them and what is robust and aggressive is a federal responses we can get to save as many lives as possible and afterwards to help people in the communities rebuild. These are communities i love, Semi Know personally in appellation and across the southeast. They need their government to do their job and i commit when trump is president , the government will put the citizens of the country first when they suffer from a disaster. And norah you asked about Climate Change which is an important issue. Many people are justifiably worried about the crazy Weather Patterns its important to say Donald Trump and i support clean air and clean water. We want the Environment Cleaner and safer but what ive noticed of our democratic friends talking about this is a concern about Carbon Emissions. The Idea Carbon emissions drives Climate Change. Lets say its true for the sake of argument so we dont argue about Weird Science lets say its true. If you believe that, what would you want to do . You would want to restore as much american manufacturing and produce as much energy as possible in the united states of america because we are the cleanest economy in the world. What have harris policies led to . More Energy Production in china, more manufacturing overseas, more Doing Business in some of the dirtiest parts of the world. When i say that the amount of Carbon Emissions they do per unit of economic output. If we actually care of getting cleaner air and water, the best thing to do is double down and invest in american workers and the american people. Unfortunately, harris has done the opposite. Norah Governor Walz your turn to respond. We got close to an agreement as those things are happening. First of all its a horrific tragedy with the hurricane and my heart goes out to the folks down there. Ive been in contact with the governors as i serviced cochair of the council of governors and we worked together in these emergency met managements. Governors know no partisanship we work together with them and the partisan and the first responders on the ground. We are still a phase where we need to make sure they are staying there and staying focused. Back to Climate Change, there is no doubt this thing roared on to the scene faster instructor than anyThing Weve seen. Senator vance has said theres a climate problem. But trump called it a hoax and that these things will make more beachfront property to invest in. What weve seen out of the Harris Administration now, the bidenHarris Administration weve seen investment. The massive investment, the biggest and global history and the Inflation Reduction Act crating jobs across the country. 2000 in jeffersonville, ohio taking the Ev Technology we invented and making it here. 200,000 jobs across the country, the largest solar Manufacturing Plant is in minnesota. My farmers know Climate Change is real with 500 year droughts and floods backtoback. What they have done is adapting to allow them to tell me i harvest Corn Or Soybean and wind. We produce more natural yes and oil than any other time we have. But we are also producing more clean energy. The solution for us is to continue to move forward that Climate Change is real and reducing our impact is critical. This isnt a false choice. You can do that at the same time you create the jobs we see across the country. Thats what this administration is done and we see us becoming an Energy Superpower for the future not just the current. Thats what makes sense and then we start thinking about how we mitigate these disasters. Norah senator i want to give you an opportunity to respond, President Trump said Climate Change was a hoax what do you think . Vance the democrats in particular Kamala Harris in their leadership if they believe Climate Change is serious, what they would do is more manufacturing and Energy Production in the united states of america. So clearly Kamala Harris doesnt believe her own rhetoric on this. If she did she would agree with Debt Energy policies of Donald Trump. When we talk about clean energy its a slogan that often the democrats will use and of course about the democratic leadership is what im talking about. If you are spending hundreds of millions or billions of american Taxpayer Money on solar panels made in china. First of all you make the economy dirtier. We need to make those solar panels here. Vance a lot of them are made here. Walz vance some of them are but a lot of them are made overseas so if you want to make the climate cleaner you want to invest in more Energy Production. We havent built a nuclear facility in the last 40 years. Natural gas we need to invest more in it. Kamala harris has done the opposite Raising Energy prices. Norah senator your time is up, governor would you like to respond . Walz were producing more Natural Gas to me never had theres no moratorium on that. We are producing more oil. These are folks not liberal folks not green new deal folks these are farmers one Drought Oneyear and massive flooding the next year. How are number 1 export cannot be topsoil from erosion from these massive storms. We saw that in minnesota this summer and thinking about how we respond to that we are thinking ahead on this. What Kamala Harris has done, in minnesota we are weatherproofing these things. The Info Structure Law passed allows us to think about mitigation in the future. How we protect our future by burying power lines, how did he protect Lake Fronts and things we are seeing more and more of. But to call it a hoax and take the Oil Executive over to his Florida State and say give money to my campaign annulled let you do whatever you want. We can be smarter for that and what shes doing is crating these jobs right here. Norah governor your time is up, the overwhelming consensus is that the climate is warming up at him present a rate. Now to the crisis at the u. S. Mexico border consistently ranking as one of the top issues for american voters. Senator vance, your campaign has pledged to carry out the largest Mass Deportation Plan in american history and to use the u. S. Military to do so. Could you be more specific of how this will work great, for example, would you deport parents who entered the u. S. Illegally and separate them from any of their children who were born on u. S. Soil. 2 minutes. Vance first of all margaret before we talk about deportations we need to stop the bleeding. Its a historic Immigration Crisis but because harris started and wanted to do away with all of trumps immigration policies. Decriminalizing Illegal Aliens, massively increasing Asylum Fraud which exists in the system. Its opening floodgates and what it meant is fentanyl is coming in the country. I had a mother who struggled with Opioid Addiction and got clean. I dont want people struggling with addiction to be deprived of their second chance because harris led fentanyl into our communities at record levels. You need to stop the Bleeding And Reemployment Donald Trump Border Policies, build the wall and reimplement deportations. Back to your Point Margaret about what we do, we have 2025000000 Illegal Aliens in the country and what do we do with them . First we start with the criminal migrants. A million of those people have committed some sort of crime in addition to crossing the border illegally. You starve deportations on those folks. You also make it harder for them to undercut the wages of american workers as a lot of people will go home if they Cant Work for less than minimum wage in our own country. Thats also good for our workers who want to earn a fair wage for doing a good days work. Finally margaret you asked about Family Separation. Right now we have 320,000 children the department of Homeland Security has effectively lost. Some sex trafficked, summer hopefully a homes with their families, some of been used as Drug Trafficking meals. The real Family Separation policy in the country is unfortunately Kamala Harris is wide open southern bo