Its 8 00 and this is the. Saturday five. Well come to the saturday five. This is the show that makes you forget all about the cost of living crisis. The only thing living crisis. The only thing suffering from inflation around here is our egos. But i guarantee that your Interest Rate will rise as we set the world to rights over the next houn world to rights over the next hour, one week back on the show was enough for emily. Shes disappeared again to enjoy the summer social season , but worry summer social season, but worry not. Were still joined by your favourite albion benjamin , as favourite albion benjamin, as well as our two brilliant guests, political commentator Alex Armstrong and broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. Welcome to you both. The premise of the show is simple. Each host gets 60s to outline their argument about a chosen topic. Then we all pile in and it gets uguer then we all pile in and it gets uglier than a bank of england growth forecast. And of course , growth forecast. And of course, we want to know your views as well. Much more important than ours. Get in touch by email and gb views at gbnews. Com. But before we start tearing each other apart , its a saturday other apart, its a saturday night news with rory smith. Night news with rory smith. Thank you very much, darren. The met office is warning of possible danger to life as storm anthony batters parts of the uk. Anthony batters parts of the uk. A yellow thunderstorm warning is in place until 10 00 tonight for the south east of england and east anglia. Well meanwhile, a number of people have been evacuated from their homes in nonh evacuated from their homes in North Yorkshire due to flooding. Weather journalist nathan rao weatherjournalist nathan rao explains the conditions as wind speeds of this storm, storm anthony are expected to be around 75 mile per hour gusts on the coast and 55 mile per hour inland. Its not the strongest storm that weve seen, but because of the time of year, the leaves , the time of year, the leaves, the time of year, the leaves, the trees are all in full leaf andifs the trees are all in full leaf and its holiday season. The schools are off and where its going to be hitting the impact of this storm hitting today is likely to greater than had likely to be greater than had the of thing happened the same sort of thing happened later. Later in the year. Two French Police officers have been injured in clashes with migrants near calais around 60 people threw rocks and other missiles as officers tried to stop people smugglers launching a small boat. Gb news can reveal that 15,100 migrants have crossed the English Channel in small boats. Thats since the start of the year and down more than 2500 on the same period last year. Than 2500 on the same period last year. Pakistans former Prime Minister imran khans party is calling for peaceful protests after a Court Sentenced him to three years in prison for legally selling state gifts. This evening, several of his supporters were arrested by police during a protest. Mr khan was convicted of misusing his 2018 to 2022 premiership to buy and sell items in state possession. He has always denied any wrongdoing. Prosecutors in any wrongdoing. Prosecutors in the us have asked a judge to limit what donald trump can say publicly about a criminal case against him. They warned that mr trump may be seeking to use evidence to target witnesses after he posted a message to social media that said, if you go after me, im coming after you. The former us president you. The former us president says hes being targeted for political reasons. Thousands of political reasons. Thousands of trees are to be planted to mark the kings coronation earlier this year. The £2. 5 Million Initiative funded by the government that celebrates King Charless passion for nature. The government says it will help to meet its targets to treble Tree Planting rates by the next election. But Campaign Group friends of the earth says its only a fraction of what ministers need to do to meet those targets. Its this is gb those targets. Its this is gb news across the uk on tv , in news across the uk on tv, in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news. Now though, back to the. Saturday five. To the. Saturday five. Its saturday night and youre with the saturday five. Im Darren Grimes and i can promise that you are in for a very lively hour. Lets crack on with tonights first debate and ill be kicking us off tonight. And thats means its time, folks, for crime. Time now , this folks, for crime. Time now, this week i clocked a labour councillor on Newcastle City Council irum ali offering her services on tiktok , an app in services on tiktok, an app in gaining an increasingly dubious reputation for being utilised by people traffickers and illegal migrants, aiming for blighty in a video , councillor ali openly a video, councillor ali openly solicits those residing in the uk illegally offering to help them submit applications to the home office based on human rights grounds. Now such actions rights grounds. Now such actions have made it strikingly clear whom the labour party genuinely supports as the cabinet member for a dynamic city, one has to wonder what alis understanding of dynamic truly is. I wonder of dynamic truly is. I wonder how dynamic our city will become if its turned into a hotbed for illegal migrants. If its turned into a hotbed for illegal migrants. Ace councillor illegal migrants. Ace councillor ali mentions an extremely hostile environment for overstayers. Ill tell you this overstayers. Ill tell you this for free. I wish it was our human rights industry solidified in law by tony blair, who started our penchant for mass migration in places the rights of foreign individuals above the needs of british people. What about our right folks . Ask yourselves this our right to a secure border as an island nafion secure border as an island nation with a clear understanding of who is in our country , particularly when were country, particularly when were talking about fighting age men who have disposed of their identifying documents is responding to criticism of the video. A Labour Party Spokesperson told mail online the tories broke the asylum system and the hotel bills are stinging the taxpayer for £6 million every day. Ill tell you the idea that things would improve under labour who wish to create new legal paths for migrants to arrive here is frankly laughable. Put simply, frankly laughable. Put simply, its a case of same old labour, same old labour. Liz what do you make of all of this . Are you outraged by it . Im absolutely disgusted and im telling you and it shows labour for what they are and whose side theyre on. I think this is absolutely i feel sick to the stomach. Ill be honest. Darren and our immigration problem is so vast now , as you said, costing now, as you said, costing 6 million a day. The barge. Is anyone ever going to step foot on that barge . I dont think they ever will. I really dont think so. Theres always excuses and now theyre saying its a fire hazard. And look, the first fire hazard. And look, the first order of any government is to look after its people. We have a duty look after our own duty to look after our own people and whats happening here is totally disgusting and im disgraced by it. Disgraced by it. I mean, benjamin, does this not show that the party you support is totally out of step with the people of the country . Well, its good to be here. On another Darren Grimes immigration. Our you know what i cant stand is this claptrap about supposed lefty lawyers trying to overturn the will of the people and nonsense like that . We have laws in this country that are passed by parliament and lawyers. All they parliament and lawyers. All they can do is interpret and enforce the law of the land. So this the law of the land. So this person who is a labour councillor , but her main job to councillor, but her main job to which that tiktok video refers is her job as immigration is herjob as an immigration lawyer is trying to help people within the rules that parliament set. So you sit there and set. So when you sit there and you attack labour for you attack the labour party for that, actually why dont you take some responsibility as a tory hardliner for the fact that the rules that shes trying to enforce are the decision of people like Suella Braverman and the 400 tory Prime Ministers weve had in 13 years. Well, alex, its news to me that ive never attacked the conservative party before. I think probably it week in, think i probably do it week in, week but never mind week out, but never mind ignonng week out, but never mind ignoring that. Do you actually think the labour think this shows that the labour party will never take immigration and immigration seriously and therefore the therefore never take the concerns public . Concerns of the public . They never have taken immigration that immigration seriously. And that councillor, benjamin immigration seriously. And that c she illor, benjamin immigration seriously. And that c she called benjamin immigration seriously. And that c she called this benjamin immigration seriously. And that c she called this countryenjamin immigration seriously. And that c she called this country a|jamin , she called this country a hostile environment illegal hostile environment for Illegal Immigrants. Are more immigrants. I think we are more than i mean look at than welcoming. I mean look at the accommodation putting the accommodation were putting them day. So i mean them up in every day. So i mean i turn around and to i think to turn around and to completely facts that completely ignore the facts that the tories have actually done quite lot illegal quite a lot for a Illegal Immigrants and for migrants in this so this country. More so than i think most would be happy think most people would be happy with. A lot really. But with. It says a lot really. But its same old labour, isnt its the same old labour, isnt it . Its the same old labour then its time for the voice of then its time for the voice of the conservative party. You think its dont you think that its time that stopped blaming the time that we stopped blaming the labour for problems in labour party for problems in 2023 . Truly labour its truly a labour camp. Its truly a labour camp. Point is that my no, but my point is that my party, the conservative party, has been in power for the last 13 years. Immigration gone 13 years. Immigration has gone up that think we up over that time. I think we need to own our mistakes. One of the values of being a conservative personal conservative is personal responsibility. Im not going to sit and labour sit here and blame labour for the that this the Immigration Crisis that this country is seeing. The simple fact the matter is party, fact of the matter is my party, the party, has the conservative party, has failed for the failed on immigration for the last i mean, lizzie , last 13 years. I mean, lizzie, do theres a wider do you think theres a wider problem social media in problem with social media in general . Lot of the stories because a lot of the stories are suggesting that are actually suggesting that many of the people coming over the channel have the English Channel have actually advertising on actually seen advertising on social media saying, we can get you over in a dinghy for x amount. You over in a dinghy for x amount. Sadly, you over in a dinghy for x amount. Sadly, thats the way amount. Sadly, thats the way its been done. Look, and i think social media got to take the blame media has got to take the blame for a lot of this on tiktok. The people that running it, you people that are running it, you know, look at what know, youve got to look at what whats spread out there. Whats being spread out there. Its. And if its disgusting. And look, if you illegally, you are you come over illegally, you are a. Im sorry that a criminal. Im sorry that youre if youre throwing your passport away, weve got to stop the gangs. Weve got to stop the crossings. Dangerous, crossings. Its a dangerous, you know, they are criminals know, but they are criminals because coming over here because theyre coming over here illegally and are you saying that the lawyers, they were being paid a lot of money . Benjamin to want people to get to give them loopholes of how to get away with it, not telling the sorry thats not the truth . Sorry thats not fair. And what about our own people . About own people . What about our own Homeless People arent Homeless People that arent given a barge to be in or given food, water, shelter . What about you know, i spoke to that is on the street. Its not on were the street. Its not on were not even looking after our own hypocrisy, isnt it . It comes back to our on. No, it is hypocrisy. We wont look after our own people, but were happy to look after anyone that illegally. Its elite. The word illegal. It comes over here. Then what . I guess that means then what . I guess that means then that that we should what . I guess that means then that higher that we should what . I guess that means then that higher taxest we should what . I guess that means then that higher taxes and should what . I guess that means then that higher taxes and ahould what . I guess that means then that higher taxes and a more have higher taxes and a more secure welfare net for those people because we should spend the on the money on immigration, on solving issue , solving the homelessness issue, that we should get rid of the holes, loopholes the holes, the loopholes in the welfare have homelessness. Thats what we need. Thats what we need. You have a tory government rid of the you have a tory government that has seen homelessness go through the roof, veterans thrown roof, that sees veterans thrown out house years out of their house at 98 years old, like highlighted on this old, like we highlighted on this channel other and has channel the other week and has seen and illegal seen immigration and Illegal Immigrants one thing. These are the failures of these are the failures of tory governments, the labour tory governments, not the labour party. Thing you are right party. One thing you are right on though is that it is the law and this theres no suggestion that has broken that this solicitor has broken the perfectly legal to the law. Its perfectly legal to help of illegal help the trade of illegal migrants. We need to do migrants. But what we need to do is is he is right is change the law is he is right. The echr. Youre. Leave the echr. Youre blairite project. We should leave altogether. But Winston Churchill project. Liz has given you her thoughts. Blair put it into law. But lizzies giving you her thoughts on why. Meghan, not only needs to look at fixing relations with the royal family, but the relationships with but also the relationships with our own family. Its time for lizzies livet oh wow. And i am so livid. Lizzies livet oh wow. And i am so livid. And why and i am so livid. And why should meghan and harry never be allowed back in the royal family . Well ill tell you why. Apart from trashing the royal family in books weve read spell maybe you havent. Youve been spared it. Theyve done their documentaries. We saw with oprah where they actually told a load of lies , actually said there was of lies, actually said there was alleged racist in the royal family. And ill beloved queen passed away not knowing that you know who this racist actually was. Well, there wasnt a racist because meghan had actually made it up so , you know, they go on it up so, you know, they go on and on and on. And when will they stop . Well, i hope theyd they stop . Well, i hope theyd stop because meghan has been very, very quiet of late and they havent been seen together as a couple. But then they suddenly appear again all smiles, sweet and sickly. Add to smiles, sweet and sickly. Add to do a. Vide o. Smiles, sweet and sickly. Add to do a. Vide 0. Yes, from their do a. Video. Yes, from their podcast for their wonderful charity. Giving awards , which i charity. Giving awards, which i have to say was very strange because it was all seemed set up to me because how did the know lord winner pick up the phone . And there was a suddenly a camera there that was filming her. Itsjust camera there that was filming her. Its just so sickly sweet and theyre doing is ruining and all theyre doing is ruining the royal family and im sorry. I really do feel this whinging couple need to find their own identity. Stop talking about the royals and find something really goodin royals and find something really good in life to do and maybe, you know, make amends with not just the royal family, but with each other and maybe meghans family. Dont forget her poor father that was left out in the cold. So should we really let them ever back in . I really dont think so. Even the beckhams are distancing some from this couple. I mean , for from this couple. I mean, for harry to even accuse Victoria Beckham of selling stories on his wife. Is quite ludicrous. I mean, i know her you know fashion range isnt doing that well at the minute, but i dont think she needs to sell stories. So so over to you first, alex. What do you think of this . Should we ever let them back in the royal. No, im done with them and i think the public are done with them arent they . Them as well, arent they . I mean, do you know whats really funny . Heard that meghan funny . I heard that Meghan Markle a new version markle is making a new version of expectations, the of great expectations, where the focus on miss havisham focus will be on miss havisham and ifs focus will be on miss havisham and its a and i think its a self fulfilling prophecy, and i think its a selthatlfilling prophecy, and i think its a selthat she ng prophecy, and i think its a selthat she sheirophecy, and i think its a selthat she she wants y, and i think its a selthat she she wants to be it, that she she wants to be this widow that has been this future widow that has been so poorly by the britain so poorly treated by the britain and royal family. And im and the royal family. And im si