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Link inns in has been doing so since the 1400s. In fact, john fortescue, arguably one of the greatest political thinkers of the 15th century, was governor of lincolns inn. Not once but three times. These institutions , inns have a duty institutions, inns have a duty to justice, of course, but they also have another duty too , as also have another duty too, as the privileged custodians of an historical inheritance that they hold in trust on behalf of the rest of us. Unfortunately, many of those in positions of authority throughout our institution inns, they seem to think that they own the place. Think that they own the place. Thatis think that they own the place. That is why the decisions taken by institutions inns like lincolns inn are our business. This week it has been reported that lincolns inn have decided to abandon the explicitly christian wording of grace before meals to make it more, quote, inclusive. The right quote, inclusive. The right honourable sir geoffrey vos, master of the rolls and treasurer of the inn, said its a priority to continue to enhance the relevance of the inn to all our members and build an increasingly inclusive environment. This will involve taking the time to correct outdated stereotypes, hate is a strong word, i know, but what i hate that tyrannic people controlling little word relevance as if hundreds of years of tradition that shaped and formed your institution with its own hands is should be bossed about by something as whimsical and transient as one little cabals idea of relevance. Grace is outdated. So now. Grace is outdated. So now theyre going to give thanks. Theyre going to give thanks. Instead. This is the original lord god heavenly father, bless us. And these thy gifts which we receive from thy bountiful goodness through jesus christ our lord. Amen now they will say in this moment of silence, let us give thanks for all that we are about to receive. And for the company of this honourable society, this is asinine, ungrateful rubbish. There will ungrateful rubbish. There will be some people who think that im overreacting of course, but the reality is that this is a Christian Country that has a distinct early christian history. Every fibre of its being of our being, whether youre christian or not, has been shaped by its theology. Culture values, ethics and worldview too, including the common law itself. Erasing christian elements from our institutions in the name of relevance and inclusivity is illiterate. They are wrong to think that upholding the traditions of our institutions are incompatible with being welcoming. It shows how little they understand the culture and traditions that theyre attacking. The culture theyre attacking. The culture and traditions that gave birth to the free societies and liberties that we enjoy today. I know i sound like a broken record, but those in positions of authority in our institution , ins, are taking an axe to whatever they like. But these things are not theirs to destroy all men. Look took too lightly and all that they loved. Too late. Those are the immortal late. Those are the immortal words of g. K. Late. Those are the immortal words of gk. Chesterton. These things belong to england, not just to her history, but to her future here as well. They belong to you, to us, to you at home, wherever you come from. G. K. Wherever you come from. Gk. Chesterton put it best when he said , tradition means giving said, tradition means giving a vote to the most obscure of all classes. Our ancestors. It is classes. Our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who who merely happen to be walking about all democrats object to men being disqualified by the accident of their birth. Tradition objects their birth. Tradition objects to their being disqualified by the accident of their death. The accident of their death. Democracy tells us to not neglect a good mans opinion, even if he is our groom. Tradition often asks us not to neglect a good mans opinion, even if he is our father. I think that by rejecting their traditions lincoln, lincolns inn are inflicting an injustice. But what do you think. In the news this week , curators in the news this week, curators of the worlds most extensive collection of tudor objects, the Mary Rose Museum , have been Mary Rose Museum, have been heavily criticised. Theyve been heavily criticised. Theyve been ascribing questionable lgbt origins or questionable lgbt origins or questionable lgbt origins to objects found on henry viis famous ship, or, as they put it, using queerness as an interpretive tool. For an interpretive tool. For example, the Museum Website argues that a mirror found on the ship can relate to queer people as they may experience gender dysphoria or euphoria when looking into it, and a collection of combs is linked to gender identity because of the norm that women have long hair and men have short hair, these interpretations are , to put it interpretations are, to put it charitably, hugely speculative, forcing the present onto the past and distorting it into a fiction that led me to wonder is it unethical for Museum Curators to rewrite the past. 7 and that is to rewrite the past. 7 and that is the subject of tonights dual. The subject of tonights dual. Joining me tonight is the broadcaster ralph Rafe Heydel Mankoo and the former mp stephen pound. Two of my favourite people. How lucky am favourite people. How lucky am i . Ralph and stephen, thank you so much forjoining us here today. How lucky are we actually . So stephen, kick us off. Do you think that this is not just wrong but unethical . Yeah, well , i think this is profoundly wrong. And i think weve actually reached stage now where we reached a stage now where we simply say this far and simply have to say this far and no further. I think we are actually is asinine. Is actually this is asinine. It is pure also inchoate. It pure art. Its also inchoate. It makes whatsoever. Look, makes no sense whatsoever. Look, lets of things lets get a couple of things straight. Actually found straight. Theyve actually found a well, have to say, a mirror. Well, i have to say, that doesnt necessarily that doesnt mean necessarily that doesnt mean necessarily that the place is full of gay men the mirror. Men preening in the mirror. Theres of women on board. Theres a lot of women on board. Henrikki and warships. You know the you the expression, show a leg. You know that comes from . I know where that comes from . I dont. Well because women would be hammock with a sailor be in the hammock with a sailor overnight the morning overnight and in the morning when hands when you piped all hands on deck, they say, show a deck, they used to say, show a leg to see if was a man or a leg to see if it was a man or a woman in the hammock or sometimes see, that would have been an interesting bit of history include. Been an interesting bit of histwell, include. Been an interesting bit of histwell, would 1clude. Been an interesting bit of histwell, would belde. Well, that would be interesting. But the other thing is men having hair. Is about men having long hair. Sailors, right up henrik and sailors, right up until male nelsonian times until the male nelsonian times had the reason had very long hair. The reason that that collar, that that we were that collar, that nelson collar was to keep the tar, tallow off our tar, the tallow off our uniforms. This patty. I uniforms. And this patty. I mean, not in day. Actually, mean, not in my day. Actually, i have say. Know, have to say. But, you know, ancestors used to do that. So. But look, whats ridiculous about this is this is about about this is this this is about trying identify and find trying to identify and find queerness. Put queerness. And i think you put it earlier on when it beautifully earlier on when you about people in you talked about people in detached if detached from reality. If you can afford live up in the top can afford to live up in the top of the hill, it doesnt mean you occupy the moral ground. Occupy the moral high ground. And are actually and these people are actually twisting tying twisting themselves and tying themselves to themselves into knots to desperately try to justify their own and their own prejudices and their own failings, their own academic incompetence. Them incompetence. I dont mind them doing they do that in doing that. They can do that in any dinner party in Dartmouth Park care. But park for all they care. But i object what theyre doing to object to what theyre doing to our our people, to our country, to our people, to our country, to our people, to our and to our our culture, and to our standards, and actually making us look as we are somehow us look as though we are somehow guilty not identifying gay guilty for not identifying gay sailors rose. Well sailors on the mary rose. Well ill to grave defending ill go to my grave defending the men to be gay the right of gay men to be gay men. Women be gay women. Men. Gay women to be gay women. But not going to say if but im not going to say if theres a mirror there that equals, you know, thirds of equals, you know, two thirds of the crew were of that persuasion. Rafe, they are reading into this, arent there is this, arent they . So there is surely they could surely a history that they could have actually highlighted, but this something that they are this is something that they are they are reading into it that they are reading into it that they imposing on the past. They are imposing on the past. But say that the but they would say that the reason theyre doing this is reason why theyre doing this is for inclusivity so that people can themselves the can see themselves in the collection. Do you think that collection. In do you think that people to see people should need to see themselves collection . No themselves in the collection . No its clear that i mean, its quite clear that i be very open and happy i would be very open and happy to see exhibition about the to see an exhibition about the history of homosexuality, whether james, whether it be, you know, james, the favourites or the first or all favourites or the first or all favourites or the houses of the the molly houses of the 17th century in london. And you know, the of polari, because the history of polari, because thats history what were thats real history what were talking fantasy talking about here is fantasy history. The very history. You know, the very nofion history. You know, the very notion queerness a 20th notion of queerness is a 20th century creation in a queerness is a very political term. Its is a very political term. Its loaded, advancement of an loaded, is the advancement of an ideology and of an activism, which is different to just which is very different to just being gay so one of the being gay. So thats one of the key i have here. On key issues i have here. But on its own, is a very silly its own, this is a very silly story, i would say. But taken more broadly, this is very sinister. This is the attempt to subvert to advance subvert reality, to advance a political agenda and i think we have to actually call a spade a spade here. Britain is a post revolutionary society now, we may not have red flags flying from the tops of our grand buildings, but the people who inhabh buildings, but the people who inhabit buildings run inhabit those buildings and run them are cuckoos in the nest who bear no resemblance the bear no resemblance to the generations built them and generations who built them and ran. And museums are ran them. And our museums are actually at the core centre actually at the core and centre of this. The biggest cuckoos actually at the core and centre of tactually the biggest cuckoos actually at the core and centre of tactually museumzst cuckoos actually at the core and centre of tactually Museum Curators os actually at the core and centre of tactually Museum Curators and are actually Museum Curators and librarians. When we were growing up, librarians and Museum Curators were shy, introverted, meek people. Theyre now the meek people. Theyre now the stormtroopers of woke ideology and the problem here, of course, is that children today get so little history at school, all they know about the tudors , they they know about the tudors, they know about the and windrush beyond that, they dont get anything. So its museums that provide main educational provide the main educational service. Its not just for the service. Its not just for the young, also for the adults. Young, but also for the adults. And british adults ignorant and british adults are ignorant of instead of of history too. But instead of providing the accurate and balanced they be balanced history, they should be giving are reinforcing giving and they are reinforcing the indoctrination lesson that children getting school. Children are getting at school. Do think thats the do you think thats the problem, that problem, stephen, that that we dont have resilience dont even have the resilience in the population in terms of historical literacy to be able to recognise lies when we see them. So its the same with lincolns in that theres a kind of illiteracy there. No of illiteracy there. Theres no understanding of why these things are important and why from a christian perspective, i know youre also a christian. Why honesty matters is i think that one thing christianity teaches you is self examination and one thing is because we live our lives in imitation of christ, hopefully. But we also need to examine our own motivations and our own urges and our own motivations. Urges and our own motivations. And i think that lincolns inn and not forget, talked and lets not forget, you talked about i think only about fortescue and i think only on can have on gb news can we have a discussion sirjohn discussion about sir john fortescue. Id also mention fortescue. But id also mention saint thomas more who was also at lincolns who actually at lincolns inn who actually died faith to died for his faith and died to preserve the independence of the judiciary. We dont judiciary. I think that we dont have that strength anymore have that that strength anymore and weve allowed those with the loudest voices to dominate too much. And because , you know, you much. And because, you know, you can shout louder, it doesnt mean that you can actually express yourself better. Wish express yourself better. I wish we had more confidence. As we had more confidence. But as for the shy librarian, i can think the think of probably one of the greatest of the last greatest poets of the last century a shy librarian in century was a shy librarian in hull, most larkin. It hull, who spent most larkin. It was certainly not a quiet librarian. Librarian. Brief final thoughts . Ray no , i agree. But i think we have to wake up to the fact that whats happening here is systemic across all of our institutions, and we need to have muscular and we need to have a muscular defence western civilisation defence of western civilisation an defend us from the enemies an to defend us from the enemies within, but also from without. Of because we very of course, because we have very strong aggressors and strong aggressors in china and russia elsewhere. And its russia and elsewhere. And its only strength that defeats strength. Thank you both for a very intelligent disagreement. Intelligent disagreement. Im sorry, or were not really and really disagreement and intelligent will intelligent disagreement. I will try to find something to argue about with you. So very much. Both thank you so very much. Both of you. For moderator emma. For moderator emma. For moderator emma. Now, earlier this week. Now, earlier this week. Police force diffet ended creating a meme on social media, telling the public that a criminal had been sent to prison. Lancashire Police Posted a how it started versus how its going. Meme using two photographs of a criminal who had recently been convicted alongside 14 other men. So im asking x formally known as twitter should the pol