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Ill be back with more in about an hours back with more in about an hours time. But now its over to. To. Leo welcome to mark dolan tonight with me, leo kyrees in my big opinion, grouse shooting and why its a good thing. And the big story. 509 migrants crossed the story. 509 migrants crossed the channel yesterday. The bibby channel yesterday. The bibby stockholm is full of diseases and six poor souls died trying to cross the channel. How do we stop this from happening . And ill be talking to a conservationist who rewild lions and tigers, hopefully shell bnng and tigers, hopefully shell bring one in to eat. Somebody in my take at ten. Why cant the nhs use the word woman . And nhs use the word woman . And tonights newsmaker, former government minister Ann Widdecombe, joins us to discuss the weeks politics. Plus, mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrows front pages from 10 30 pm. Sharp with three top pundits who havent been told what to say and who dont follow the script. Tonight, we have broadcaster and psychotherapist lucy beresford, director of the Common Sense Society , emma webb, and former society, emma webb, and former labour mp Simon Danczuk and tonight ill be asking the punst tonight ill be asking the pundits what first attracted tony blair to the Oil Rich State of saudi arabia. Do we need a nationwide dna database for crime, or is it overstepping the line . And should pride events be funded by the taxpayer . After funded by the taxpayer . After the revelation funded by the taxpayer . After the revelation that half £1 million was spent on pride events this year, plus your emails , send them in to gb views emails, send them in to gb views at gbnews. Com. This show has a golden rule. We dont do boring. Not on my watch. I just wont have it. Lets get to work and we start with my big opinion. It we start with my big opinion. It was the glorious 12th yesterday. The start of the british grouse shooting season in grouse moors rang with the crack of shotguns as landed gentry leaned out of their butts to shoot these fast , nimble birds, restaurants rushed to serve the first delicious grouse of the season. A fine tradition, but now the metropolitan elite have hunting and shooting in their crosshairs. Legislation is being passed. The Wildlife Management bill that could criminalise grouse shooting cosseted by metropolitan elites castigate shooting as inhumane and immoral and green politicians say that grouse shooting is bad for the environment. This is absolute balderdash. Grouse moors are carefully managed to provide habitat for the grouse, and its also habitat for all kinds of rare flora and fauna such as curlew merlin, large heath butter , fly orchid and butter, fly orchid and butterflies and orchids. More than two thirds of englands grouse moors are designated as sites of special scientific interest burning. The heather to stimulate fresh growth for growth to eat, which is criticised as endangering wildlife and releasing carbon, actually prevents wildfires and promotes biodiversity. If promotes biodiversity. If it wasnt for grouse shooting, then the grouse moors these oases of biodiversity wouldnt exist. Biodiversity wouldnt exist. The chattering classes in islington dont realise this, but the countryside is a business. Land has to provide money and employment. If has to provide money and employment. If this moorland wasnt used for grouse shooting, it would be used for the next most lucrative use which in most cases is blanket coniferous forestry. This industrial forestry. This industrial forestry is not indigenous and forestry is not indigenous and creates a monoculture where nothing thrives, but pine trees and midges. Blanket forestry and midges. Blanket forestry doesnt support the ecological diversity found in a grouse moor. It acidifies the soil and water courses upsetting the delicate balance of nature for miles around. Its the rural equivalent of an oil spill and grouse moors provide essential employment for some of the most depnved employment for some of the most deprived communities in britain. Remote rural areas and former mining towns. Remote rural areas and former mining towns. My father was a mining towns. My father was a gunsmith on the scottish grouse moors at leadhills, fixing the guns of the toffs, shooting the grouse , and my first job, aged grouse, and my first job, aged 14, was as a grouse. Peter its not as violent as it sounds. Gross beaters arent paid to rough the grouse a bit before rough up the grouse a bit before theyre shot. No, i was one of theyre shot. No, i was one of the men who walk in a line across moor waving a flag. Across the moor waving a flag. And theres 14. After and theres me, age 14. After id my first grouse, id shot my first grouse, i hadnt id shot my first grouse, i hadnt for the way. Hadnt paid for it, by the way. It was a freebie grouse beating. Got and these men out got me and these other men out of us a hard of the house gave us a hard days work and a bit of extra cash to top up our gyros as well as for beaters and as Seasonal Work for beaters and loaders. Skilled local loaders. Skilled local local workers are employed all year round and local businesses such as and restaurants also as hotels and restaurants also benefit huge amounts of public money have been pumped into these deprived communities to offset the decline of farming and the end of coal mining. But grouse does a far grouse shooting does a far better of generate jobs and better job of generate jobs and wealth in these isolated areas than government handouts ever could do. But leftists see grouse shooting is inhumane. Grouse shooting is inhumane. Its unnecessary suffering. It does, after all, revolve around blasting animals out of the sky. But compared to factory farmed animals such as chickens, which lead a short , unpleasant life in lead a short, unpleasant life in a concrete shed crammed up against other chickens pumped full of antibiotics before theyre strapped by the feet to a Conveyor Belt of a machine that electrocutes them and boils them and plucks them. Grouse lead an enviably pleasant and natural life grouse live as nature intended. On the moors nature intended. On the moors eating wild heather free to roam and nest wherever they please. Some are then quickly killed and eaten. Humans have been killing animals to eat since the dawn of time, and as a shooter myself, theres nothing more respectful than killing your own food. Instead of outsourcing it to a disinterested grunt in an abattoir. Unless politicians are going to force us all to become vegan and live in bio sustainable tepees, they have no right to stop people shooting grouse. Grouse. At all. Right im here. Im here. I always forget about that bit. Oh my god. Its my. Its my daily exercise. Anyway, anyway , what exercise. Anyway, anyway, what do you think . Do you agree . Do you disagree with me . Email do you think . Do you agree . Do gbviews gbnews. Com and ill get gbviews gbnews. Com and ill get to your emails after the break. Reacting to my big opinion tonight and my Brilliant Panel of broadcaster and psychotherapy host lucy beresford, director for the Common Sense Society. Emma webb , and former labour mp emma webb, and former labour mp Simon Danczuk. Am i pronouncing that right . Thats fine. Thats fine. Is that. Yeah, i can do that. Ive been called worse. Ive been called worse. And i mean, would you make of it . Are any of you hunters and shooters yourselves . Shooters yourselves . No, but im with you on it. I dont think we should be banning shooting in grouse at all. And i think its the thin end of a wedge. And im worried that people campaigning people who are campaigning on these ultimately want these issues ultimately want to get become vegetarian or get us to become vegetarian or vegan. Thats the end point. Vegan. And thats the end point. And so its the thin end of a wedge. What i would wedge. Thats what i would argue. Wedge. Thats what i would arg yeah. Mean, its yeah. I mean, its controlling peoples lives and its also its also shutting down the economy thats down part of the economy thats self sustain waning and, you know, part of the free market, which and leaving people dependent on government handouts. I feel very conflicted because i am a member of the rspb and i dont agree with murdering birds , but im also murdering birds, but im also a country girl. I grew up in the country girl. I grew up in the country and this is, as you say, a thriving economy that actually for a lot of the betas , its not for a lot of the betas, its not just a community. Its the way for a lot of the betas, its not just a community. Its the for a lot of the betas, its not juswhich mmunity. Its the for a lot of the betas, its not juswhich mmu|earnits the for a lot of the betas, its not juswhichmmu|earn theire in which they earn their livelihoods whatever livelihoods for whatever it is, 4 of the year. 4 to 5 months of the year. And if took 4 to 5 months of the year. And if you took that away, not only would you really decimate those communities economically, communities both economically, but also mentally, spiritually , but also mentally, spiritually, but also mentally, spiritually, but from a conservation point of view, actually the way in which those grouse moors are are processed and dealt with in different seasons, it has actually encouraging the biodiverse city. And you see that a lot in other continents in africa in particular, where the regeneration is allowed to happen naturally. This is the regeneration that is man made, but theyre doing it with with great, you know, hundreds of years of knowledge about how to actually improve the land under their absolutely. Their care. Yeah, absolutely. The with the same actually happened with fox theres some fox hunting. So theres some evidence that evidence to suggest that actually under the current circumstances, the fox population is less healthy because got rid of because we got rid of traditional fox hunting. So i think the point about biodiversity is really important because youre talking about because if youre talking about outcomes talking, you outcomes and youre talking, you know, care about know, you actually care about animals you actually animals and you actually care about countryside about the countryside and you want it to flourish, you should care and care about biodiversity and seeing human beings as if we are somehow now outside of that, i think is part of the problem. We are part of that ecosystem. Theres wrong or immoral theres nothing wrong or immoral about birds, aside from about shooting birds, aside from the shooting, the fact that i love shooting, ive birds before, ive never shot birds before, but id quite like to go on a grouse if they dont get rid of it. Yeah, think it. Listening yeah, but i think that thats whats really important, that if you, as i do , love animals and , if you really love animals and you the countryside, you really love the countryside, you really love the countryside, you their you should want their populations thrive in of populations to thrive in all of their that biodiversity and real conservation. I think when you go and you speak to people, farmers in the countryside, they have a very , very different have a very, very different opinion on this to, like you were saying, the sort of metropolitan have metropolitan elite who have absolutely no idea how and clarksons farm was a perfect example of this. And i think example of this. And i think that actually if people actually listen to what Small Farmers lives are actually like and paid attention to their understanding of protecting biodiversity , of protecting biodiversity, theyd take a very different approach. Yeah. The custodians of the land, weve actually got some comments from viewers. John says comments from viewers. John says the only grouse, you know, is the only grouse, you know, is the whisky that is racially stereotyping me because of my accent. But it is very true, gam says famous grouse is the best. I see a themed developing here. Its sunday night i see a themed developing here. Its sunday night, settling down for a tipple, tim says. Its sunday night, settling down for a tipple, tim its sunday night, settling down for a tipple, should should get metropolitan should should get out more and i mean i think thats thats a great point and you know the grouse moors ive always them absolutely always found them absolutely beautiful on beautiful great for hiking on whereas blanket coniferous forestry you know , especially forestry you know, especially when its felled it looks like a scene for the somme when all the trees are felled. Great. Trees are felled. Great. But also you were mentioning curlew. So down where i come but also you were mentioning from in sussex , theres a from in west sussex, theres a huge of curlews and huge shortage of curlews and that what we really that actually what we really need is to encourage areas need to do is to encourage areas where thrive and where they can thrive and improve their natural habitat. Improve their natural habitat. So yeah, there would be an amazing sense in which you could migrate from grouse moors migrate them from grouse moors to the country. To other parts of the country. But if theyre doing it on but if theyre not doing it on the moors else is the grouse moors, who else is going saving curlew . Going to be saving the curlew . I think i think yeah, and i think i think the migrate themselves because they, you the, the go out in the you know, the, the go out in the mudflats and eat the eat the stuff there well. But stuff there as well. But yeah i mean ive noticed that hunters and there are you know and shooters there are you know they look after the land so the animals they want to shoot can survive on there. Yeah. The problem is there is this very layer of corporate very thin layer of corporate hospitality where youve got people only shoot once every people who only shoot once every four years because theyve been ianed four years because theyve been invited some investment invited by some investment banken invited by some investment banker. And i as former banker. And i speak as a former investment so i know investment banker, so i know whereof actually whereof i speak that actually these people, they do it because they think its the thing to do and they they all the kit and they they buy all the kit and they they buy all the kit and buy the gun and then and they buy the gun and then they only shoot and they only shoot once. And i think is to think that think the myth is to think that everybody involved in everybody whos involved in shooting that kind of shooting is that kind of individual. And thats not individual. And thats just not the its the same with but its the same with anything youve but its the same with any theg youve but its the same with any the corporate youve but its the same with any the corporate boxesyouve but its the same with any the corporate boxes where got the corporate boxes where you probably you know, theyre probably full of no interest of people whove got no interest in football. Whats wrong with it . Its traditional. Yeah, yeah. Like its an english pastime. So whats and why are we as like its an english pastime. So country more prone to getting rid like that . Rid of stuff like that . You to france or when you go to france or spain, they keep these traditions donkeys traditions for donkeys so they wouldnt it. They wouldnt have any of it. They wouldnt have any of it. They wouldnt have any it. Wouldnt have any of it. They wotbutt have any it. Wouldnt have any of it. They wotbut thats� any it. Wouldnt have any of it. They wotbut thats becauset. Wouldnt have any of it. They wotbut thats because i think but thats because i think theres such disconnect theres such a disconnect now between and the between in the town and the country youve got country that actually youve got a massive divide in this country where we have youve got children who grow up who dont know comes from, and know where milk comes from, and you fantastic