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GBN Laurence July 4, 2024

Rail. And speaking of gender, you can be offensive as you like, as long as you say the right offensive thing. It seems graham lynam has his edinburgh comedy fringe appearance cancelled. Havent we got past cancelled. Havent we got past this by now . Comedys comedy. Surely if you dont like it, dont watch it, but dont cancel it. Im debating this and so much more with my panel. And much more with my panel. And thats all coming up after the latest News Headlines with tatiana sanchez. Tatiana sanchez. Dawn, thank you very much and good evening. This is the latest from the newsroom for the nurse. Lucy letby has been found guilty of the murder of seven babies. She was also convicted of the attempted murder of six others between june 2015 and june 2016. At the countess of Chester Hospitals Neonatal Ward b 33 year old will be sentenced on monday. The government has ordered an independent inquiry into the case. Crown prosecutor pascal jones described letby attacks as a complete betrayal of the trust placed in her. It ordered those working alongside her know that there was a murderer in their midst. She did her utmost to conceal her crimes by varying the ways in which she repeatedly harmed babies in her care. She sought babies in her care. She sought to deceive her colleagues and pass off the harm she caused as nothing more than a worsening of each babys existing vulnerability. Vulnerability. Police investigating the murder of a ten year old in woking say theyre looking for her father, sara sharifs body was found at her home last thursday after Police Received a call from her dad. Just before 3 am. Detectives say she suffered a. M. Detectives say she suffered extensive injuries over a sustained period of time. Sustained period of time. Theyre now seeking irfan sharif , along with the childs stepmother and her uncle. Its believed they travelled to pakistan the day before her death was discovered. Police death was discovered. Police have revealed theyre investigating the loss of an officers laptop and notebook which fell from a moving vehicle yesterday. Meanwhile, the psni yesterday. Meanwhile, the psni have arrested a man in connection with last weeks data breach in which the details of 10,000 Police Officers and staff were published online by mistake. A 50 year old man has been detained under the terrorism act and is being questioned. Another man was arrested yesterday on suspicion of collecting information likely to be useful to terrorists. Gb news can to terrorists. Gb news can reveal more than 25,000 migrants have crossed the English Channel since rishi sunak became Prime Minister the figure was reached just after midday today after the Border Force Vessel ranger arrived at dover harbour with 57 people on board and despite poor weather conditions in the channel today, a second migrant boat made it to uk waters. It means more than 110 migrants have arrived in kent today. To have arrived in kent today. To train. Drivers will strike on the 1st of september and overtime will be banned the day after in a long running dispute over pay. The strike will force train across england Train Companies across england to Cancel Services , while to cancel all services, while the ban on overtime will seriously disrupt the network. It will be the 12th one day strike by aslef members since the dispute started a year ago. The dispute started a year ago. This is gb news across the uk on tv in your car , on Digital Radio tv in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by simply saying play. News now dawn it is back to you. Dawn it is back to you. Thank you. Tatiana good evening. Im dawn neesom and you are watching and listening to gb news coming up shortly , ill be news coming up shortly, ill be debating a trans players in chess. If comedy should be cancelled and if the president of the fia should be actually watching our fearless lionesses bnng watching our fearless lionesses bring us home. Fingers crossed. The world cup. So tonight i am asking you with growing hype for the game on sunday. Are you as excited for the womens football as the mens are in football in general . But in sport, i mean, doesit general . But in sport, i mean, does it mean as much to you as if it was the men playing very cunous if it was the men playing very curious to what you think on this one. Had this debate with the husband at home, didnt go well, but get in touch. Vaiews gbnews. Com. Now probably vaiews gbnews. Com. Now probably one of the horrible stories weve had for a while. Neonatal nurse has been found guilty of murdering seven babies and attempting to kill six more, making her the worst child serial killer in modern history. Now, obviously , we are talking now, obviously, we are talking about the horrible case of lucy letby. Joining me now to discuss the sort of psychological mentality im interested in what drives a woman to do this. You have to harm those in your care. Is psychologist honey lancaster james. Hi, honey. Thank you so much for joining james. Hi, honey. Thank you so much forjoining us this evening much for joining us this evening on a friday night. I really appreciate your time to discuss what is a dreadfully upsetting story. Now, i know, honey, we story. Now, i know, honey, we have discussed it. You cant talk about this case in particular, so i just want to talk in general about what drives this sort of behaviour , drives this sort of behaviour, particularly in women and why are we more shocked when it is a woman . Woman . Well, i think theres two questions there. I mean , first questions there. I mean, first of all, this is obviously a dreadful, dreadful story and its going to be so distressing for so many people to hear about this. There for so many people to hear about this. There are some for so many people to hear about this. There are some reports for so many people to hear about this. There are some reports on this. There are some reports on this story that the person in question was suffering from a condition called munch and by proxy. Proxy. Now, i dont know the facts of the case havent examined in this case, but i can educate a little bit on what that is when youre hearing about that. Its a psychological disorder that leads individuals to harm those who are in their care. Now , sometimes this is now, sometimes this is associated with mothers and always mothers, but often mothers hurting children in their care. And they do so usually out of a motivation to get attention, to get contact with medical professionals. Now, i dont know whether that was the case in this case, but i have read reports that thatis but i have read reports that that is being discussed as a possible factor here. One of the things i should say is this. This is an extremely rare disorder. Its not something that we should all be panicking about, particularly in our Health Care Professionals, because although it can affect a Health Care Profession , it is extremely rare profession, it is extremely rare. And there are lots of processes in place, you know, among Health Care Teams to watch out for these things. Of course , in this case, something very, very tragic and untoward has happened. Very tragic and untoward has happened. And we dont know happened. And we dont know quite how that has come to pass that so many children have been have been harmed and have been killed and my heart just goes out to all of the families affected. Of course. Affected. Of course. Yeah. No, absolutely. With yeah. No, absolutely. With the kind of psychological disorders that we are talking about that drives killers , about that drives killers, serial killers, because thats what were talking about in this case. I what were talking about in this case. I mean, weve mentioned munchausen as well, there munchausen as well, and there were other people mentioning today like the hero today think like the hero complex. I mean, what could you explain us a bit more about what thatis . Well, thats quite a colloquial sort term. Thats colloquial sort of term. Thats something you know, is not something that, you know, is not a recognised psychological disorder like munchausen by proxy. I think what people proxy. But i think what people are talking about is where sometimes somebody can appear to be very caring, can appear to be in a caring role , can actually in a caring role, can actually can be quite deceptive about what their true motivations are involved in their activities and actually they might be motivated by self gain or some sort of self gratification. And of course, in very extreme cases , course, in very extreme cases, as in this case, it seems that its contributed to obviously the harm of others. I think in terms of sort of what to watch out for and why we perhaps dont see this coming. I think if you think about our society, we very much have this strong message that women are the nurturing caregivers among us in society, and therefore , we often think and therefore, we often think dont expect women to kill. We dont expect women to kill. We dont expect women to kill. We dont expect them to harm others because its so much the antithesis of what our concept of womanhood entails. I think there are a number of problems with that. One is that obviously as a society we need to make room for the full breadth of experience of all genders because we can all display all sorts of behaviour, but i think the other side of that is that we need to have appropriate checks and balances and ways of recognising when something might not be what it seems. And i not be what it seems. And i always think, you know, im always think, you know, im always happy to do these kinds of interviews to explain things because i think it raises awareness and the reality is there will be people out there in society suffering from these kind of psychological disorders or perhaps worried about other people in their own families or their own health care provisions. And i would always encourage people , particularly in the people, particularly in the Health Care Professions , to come Health Care Professions, to come forward and report any colleagues that they are concerned about , to speak to concerned about, to speak to someone that they trust and to keep speaking. If those concerns are not readily responded to. And of course, if anybody out there is worried about any children or Vulnerable People in someone elses care, but has an uneasy feeling about whether they are actually being cared for, whether they are being looked after , and then do speak looked after, and then do speak to someone about that, that you can trust or speak to, or even if you go to your gp and raise it, raise it with a Health Care Professional who be professional who might be able to and advise you and look to help and advise you and look and out for things that and look out for things that might be concern. Might be a concern. Very good advice. Annie, just one final question. One final quick question. The judge case described the judge in this case described the actions monstrous , which actions as monstrous, which obviously they are. These were incredibly newborn incredibly vulnerable newborn babies. If incredibly vulnerable newborn babies. If the killer incredibly vulnerable newborn babies. If the killer doesnt babies. If the killer doesnt have any of the conditions , have any of the conditions, youre so eloquently explained to us, is there such a thing as just pure evil . Just pure evil . You know , this is a debate you know, this is a debate and as a psychology and under trained psychotherapist, i have to say that in in my experience , the vast majority of offences take place. I think when people have various different disorders , Mental Health conditions that doesnt thats not me saying that everyone should be excused. Of course they shouldnt. Of course, people need to be held accountable. Of course, as a society we need to be on that and we need to incarcerate those who are a menace or a risk to society. But personally and professionally, my opinion is that if we like normal, healthy, individual cells dont go around hurting other human beings. Individual cells dont go around hurting other human beings. And hurting other human beings. And i think whats really important is i think we should also say actually whats really important is that if theres anyone ever watching or listening to these kinds of interviews and thinking, actually, im doing something, or maybe ive done something, or maybe ive done something or i have urges to do something, please get help. Something, please get help. Please go and speak to a qualified professional because it doesnt have to end up that way. It doesnt have to work out that way. And i think one of the things we have in society is a problem sometimes where we brand things as being just pure evil, just, you know, and of course, the acts are evil. And what has the acts are evil. And what has happenedis the acts are evil. And what has happened is undoubtedly deadly, horrendous and tragic. But i think what we need to do is also for state within our society a way for people to come forward. If they are at risk of harming other people, if they have thoughts of harming other people or infants, if they have thoughts of doing anything criminal. I thoughts of doing anything criminal. I would like those people to go forward and get help from professional and help from a professional and speak someone in confidence speak to someone in confidence if theyre worried about it because lets face it, thats the way reduce this kind of the way to reduce this kind of thing happening society and thing happening in society and that reporting our concerns that and reporting our concerns when we have them of course, thatis when we have them of course, that is a great, very, very good advice. Thank you so much for talking to us, sir. Honey lancaster, james ira, psychologist, thank you much forjoining us on you so much forjoining us on a friday night. Now, obviously, its incredibly distressing its an incredibly distressing case. Youve just heard case. And as youve just heard from honey, if you do have any issues, please do get in touch with your mental Health Care Professionals. And if you need to someone, any one to speak to someone, any one 24 hours a samaritans are hours a day, samaritans are there 24 over seven on 1161, two, three. Now im dawn neesom are you are watching and listening to gb news. Still to come. Never send a man to do a womans job. The temperatures rising. Boxt the temperatures rising. Boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. On. Gb news. Hello again. Its aidan hello again. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast overnight storm betty will bring lashings of wind and rain to the uk. In some places, gales as uk. In some places, gales as well as in other places. Thunder storms. Betty was named by met eireann the Irish Met Service because of the strongest winds will be affecting southern ireland overnight, but also western parts of england. South western parts of england. South west scotland, Northern Ireland and wales will see gales and in some places 60 or even 70 mile per hour wind gusts. The worse the winds move through overnight. But theres also the risk of thunderstorms developing. But theres also the risk of thu|easttorms developing. But theres also the risk of thu|east of ms developing. But theres also the risk of thu|east of england. Oping. But theres also the risk of thu|east of england and g the east of england and persistent rain for scotland and Northern Ireland. So all in all, a lively night of weather and a warm night as well, staying fairly muggy. We start off saturday with the wet and windy weather irish sea weather moving through irish sea coasts, Northern Ireland as well as scotland. The most persistent rain arrives into the north of scotland , but well continue to scotland, but well continue to see further spells of wet weather for rest of weather for the rest of scotland, Northern Ireland and northwest england the northwest england across the rest england and wales rest of england and wales brightens up. Therell be some showers but also decent showers but also some decent sunshine the southeast, sunshine and in the southeast, 26 its going to stay 26 celsius, its going to stay relatively humid. Sunday all in all, is a brighter day, particularly for northern areas. Again, a mix of sunny spells and showers, still a brisk breeze from the southwest, but thats going to be bringing once more some higher temperatures at times. So mid some higher temperatures at times. So mid 20s possible in the southeast , turning even the southeast, turning even warmer in the south through next week, changeable in the north. The temperatures rising , boxt the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Radio. Hello, happy friday evening. Im dawn neesom here on news 11 am. This sunday. A small football match taking place. Will you be watching the lionesses kick off against spain at 11 00 on sunday morning . So at 11 00 on sunday morning . So what does it mean to us all . The Prime Minister has urged pubs to open early and councils to relax licencing laws to allow more people to come together and celebrate the win. Please joining me now is sue white, former england Womens International footballer, to discuss the outcome ending performance by our lionesses. There you are, sue, thank you so much for joining there you are, sue, thank you so much forjoining me this much for joining me this evening. Pleasure to talk to you. Thank evening. Pleasure to talk to you. Thank you so much for coming on. This is actually incredible for football , for womens for football, for womens football. I mean , are you football. I mean, are you excited . I mean , come on. Talk excited . I mean, come on. Talk to me about how youre feeling right now. Right now. Im already feeling sick and nervous. I usually watch the matches from behind the city peeping out or even run into the garden if it looks like a penalty or anything like that. I get so nervous and i paced the room constantly. Im kicking every ball, heading every ball. Im ball, heading every ball. Im trying to save every ball

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