All new spending, with the exception of Vital Services and protecting vulnerable people, will stop immediately. The government is to relax planning permission for new onshore wind farms. The changes which come into force immediately mean communities can apply to their local authority to have turbines built. Local authority to have turbines built. Communities may also benefit from cheaper energy. The government hopes the new rules will help avoid a potential rebellion from some of its backbench peers. The Shadow Energy secretary , ed miliband, energy secretary, ed miliband, says reluctance to build more wind farms has led to Higher Energy costs. Energy costs. The government is being held to ransom by a bunch of tory backbenchers who since 2015 have stopped onshore wind being built in england and that has raised bills for families by £180 for every family in britain, were going through a cost of living crisis. Surely now those in st giles those conservative mps can see that its much better to have onshore wind built and cut bills for families. Bills for families. The schools minister says the government has been very proactive in dealing with the concrete crisis and has been issuing guidance since 2018. More than 100 schools in england and 33in scotland are at risk of collapse due to aerated concrete. Other public buildings have also been closed , including have also been closed, including a theatre in dartford. Both Gillian Keegan and the prime minister, rishi sunak, are under growing pressure over the issue , laughing gas will be banned and those caught in possession of the drug will face unlimited fines or up to two years in jail. New measures is expected to be introduced this year. Well tougher penalties well also see tougher penalties for the supply and production of the drug. 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There is no rac concrete in westminster yet the kids are all back at school and theyre busy. Yesterday is a really big day. Its the third reading of the energy bill. Now this is all about us becoming compliant with our net zero targets and a very major push for renewables. In particular, the emphasis being with onshore wind. And you might have seen ed wind. And you might have seen ed miliband in that clip on the news a moment ago and the government saying, look, weve got to stop this ban. We must build more onshore wind. There are two things going on here. One is the continued cult of net zero that the uk must be a world leader. We must get to net zero more quickly than any other developed country. The second is the continued belief that Renewable Energy is plentiful, free and cheap, which frankly , free and cheap, which frankly, it has never, ever been. And ed, goodness knows how many times on this programme weve been through the problems of intermittent ac and the need to backit intermittent ac and the need to back it all up, let alone the fact that cost wise it just doesnt work without subsidy. But theres Something Else going on in this bill which i believe to be far more sinister and frankly , even though frankly, even though parliaments just come back, i am totally astonished at the lack of media debate and coverage. Well find out later coverage. Well find out later on this evening what amendments have passed and what havent. So well know the actual shape of this legislation before it heads to the house of lords. This legislation before it heads to the house of lords. But this legislation before it heads to the house of lords. But there to the house of lords. But there are unbelievably , it seems to are unbelievably, it seems to me, provision is in this bill that would allow for the creation of criminal offences. Creation of criminal offences. Im going to repeat that allow for the creation of criminal offences. If businesses. And heres the rub. If individual heres the rub. If individual householders dont tell the truth or dont meet up to new Energy Requirements for their houses , as it seems to me to be houses, as it seems to me to be truly and utterly extraordinary, yes, you could be prosecuted for providing false information about your houses Energy Efficiency or for the obstruction of an enforcement authority. This takes us down authority. This takes us down the direction where we will all have to have metres metres for water, metres for gas, metres for electricity. Im still fighting like crazy against thames water. Who keeps sending thames water. Who keeps sending me these . You must now give us a date to come and pick your water metre. I dont want one. They now tell me my bills will be higher unless i comply. But i can see with this legislation all of this will become mandatory. What it represents to mandatory. What it represents to me is yet another potential massive expansion of the state and its power over our lives. And yet it is getting so little debate should the government be able to have these powers . I dont believe they should. Let dont believe they should. Let me know your thoughts. Farage at me know your thoughts. Farage at gbnews. Com. Lois perry is a campaigner and director of car 26. Lois, i guess in a sense this bill coming back today , as this bill coming back today, as i say, the summer hols are over. Yeah. The sun shining. Yeah been almost no pre coverage of this debate at all. Well there wouldnt be any pre coverage would there because the Mainstream Media are ushering in the whole net zero agenda. But the net zero agenda is not about net zero and its nothing with being green. Nothing to do with being green. Its about, as you correctly stated just now, power grab, stated just now, a power grab, more control and having more state control and having less and less jurisdiction over our lives. And dont forget, if everything smart metered, which one of the bits in the legislation there would, you know, would account for , you know, would account for, you wont able to say to wont be able to say no to a smart metre. And what does a smart metre. And what does a smart metre. And what does a smart metre means that smart metre mean . It means that your electricity , means your electricity, it means your life remotely controlled in life is remotely controlled in exactly the same way as a Digital Currency or whatever. You can have your you know, if you do a social media post, you can be switched off. You can have your hot water switched off remotely. I dont want to go down any conspiracy avenues, but this and the this is really scary and the government secondary government using secondary legislation to actually bring in criminal offences, that means a minister can go into the go into work. One morning and make an offence, make up an offence, no scrutiny of parliament . No. No. Going through the house of lords. Its like covid i think they got a bit power hungry dunng they got a bit power hungry during covid. Youre a campaigner, youve got organisation. Yeah. The got an organisation. Yeah. The very idea that a minister could go for secondary legislation to create criminal offences, it strikes me as being fundamental unconstitutional. Its orwellian against the way we do things. Yeah. Is there not, not a yeah. Is there not, not a network of people and organisations who could legally challenge this . Yeah i do believe there is. And the thing is can you believe, nigel, that this has been brought in by conservative government . I mean, you know, well conservative in name anyway. I mean imagine what labour party will do with this. You know, they, theyre communist. Im not sure the labour party would be any different to this that you could literally. But i think at the moment weve got a situation where the people the people think, oh okay, the tories but labour would tories are bad, but labour would be worse. I think thats the only that the tories only thing that the tories have got their at the got in their favour at the moment. No, youre right, it moment. But no, youre right, it could challenged. But could be legally challenged. But whos legally challenge whos going to legally challenge it when all this esg stuff is going youve going on . When youve got companies they challenge companies who, if they challenge anything or do anything, even advertising on the wrong tv station, you know, that they can lose ability to, you know, lose their ability to, you know, borrow the market. But borrow money on the market. But many lois, that we many would say, lois, that we face a Climate Emergency that many would say we dont well know. But many would say that we were thousands were okay and thousands of scientists out to scientists can be ruled out to say this and that. Its our responsibility morally to lead the world in this , that we do the world in this, that we do this first and others will follow. Follow. Its nonsense. All of the china, india, africa, all of those countries are not taking a blind bit of notice of this. Even if you believe in the whole c02 even if you believe in the whole co2 style of causing, you know, manmade climate. Do you not believe in it . No. No. No. No at all. But no, i dont. I dont. Because if you actually look history, theres look throughout history, theres been where co2 levels been periods where co2 levels have been higher and the temperature been lower and temperature has been lower and also theres been periods in history where weve been much hotter than are when hotter than we are today when there was such thing the there was no such thing as the industrial or but Industrial Revolution or but thats my personal belief, which im to. But more and im entitled to. But more and more nowadays, youre not entitled to have any personal beliefs or personal opinions. But even if you do buy into the whole narrative of, yeah, its completely nonsensical, we make up less than 1 of global emissions. None of the other big countries, all continents are doing this. This is about the doing this. This is about the deindustrialisation of the west. Thats all it is. Deindustrialisation of the west. Thats all it is. Thats all thats all it is. Thats all its about. It really, really is. But were told green jobs , but were told green jobs, green growth. Ed miliband, you saw him on the news. Ed miliband, cheap energy, loads of green jobs. This is what were told. There is a broad Cross Party Consensus on this. Oh, yes. The house of commons. No, there is, because theres a theres a globalist agenda industrialised the west. And to create what i believe is a neo marxist state, i really , neo marxist state, i really, really do. And i think they use covid and they say power corrupts and absolute power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. They corrupts absolutely. They theyre a bit oh my god, we havent got covid anymore. Havent got covid anymore. Right. Okay. Climate emergency. They want to be able the ministers to come into work one morning, create a law and it be enacted. The next day. Why . Because its absolute power corrupts absolutely. Corrupts absolutely. You may be right. Lois perry, thank you. Now, you may agree or disagree with what lois said there. I am agnostic , completely there. I am agnostic, completely agnostic on whether Carbon Dioxide , by the way, without dioxide, by the way, without which the world cant survive and plants cant grow. Im completely agnostic on whether increase in levels of co2 put temperatures up or not. I simply dont know. My position is what were doing in the name game of trying to get to net zero to stop temperatures rising is actually self defeating and being ignored, as lois did say , being ignored, as lois did say, by china. India indonesia and many, many others. Well, joining me is a former member of parliament and former minister Angela Knight and, of course, former chief executive of energy uk , angela in your roles as uk, angela in your roles as economic secretary of the treasury and working in energy , treasury and working in energy, the first point i want to come to with you is this fundamental point about the relationship between government and the individual. As i say , we dont individual. As i say, we dont yet know the final shape of this Legislature Action until we see what the amendments are and how its voted on. But to me, angela, the very idea that this legislation could give a minister the potential through secondary legislation to create criminal offences surely goes against everything we believe in regarding of the issue. Regarding of the issue. Yeah, it does. I mean, i totally agree with you actually, nigel, and i think your last guest said, you know, or you said, well, whos going to, whos got something, whos got any locus on sorting this out . And the answer is it is the members of parliament. And i would have thought that the members of parliament actually would get to grips with something that is this draconian as it is being reported at the moment. And whilst there may be a in certain circumstances a case in certain circumstances to a backstop power for the to have a backstop power for the purposes of, i dont know, rogue landlords or something along those sorts of lines , what there those sorts of lines, what there doesnt seem to meet is , is it doesnt seem to meet is, is it right at all to say that you as an individual, unless you insulate your house more, were going to find you a great amount of money that we used to have something called the nudge unit. Do you remember the nudge unit . Yeah, the nudge unit. Its called Something Else now, but the nudge unit was all about saying instead of doing the stick bit , do the carrots get stick bit, do the carrots get people to act in enlightened self interest . And that was what self interest . And that was what the nudge unit is about. And thats what should be used , used thats what should be used, used in the case of us all being , um, in the case of us all being, um, better with our use of energy in the sense that we dont leave all the lights on. You know, we do do a bit more insulation. We basically act in a little bit more responsible way. Thats whats required, not draconian powers. I dont agree with them. Anything anyway, and i sincerely hope theres enough members of parliament who now it has parliament there who now it has been flagged up. Wake up, smell been flagged up. Wake up, smell the roses and know theyve got to some changes. To make some changes. Im with you, yeah, i mean, im with you, angela. Rogue angela. I think for rogue landlords, who own vast landlords, people who own vast amounts of property and let them. Be people. Yeah, there could be people lying and cheating on all of this and that. Yes. Fine the law needs to be enforced. The very thought that it could apply to private residences is beyond me. But isnt the fact that its even on the fact that its even being put on the table . As i say, i repeat, we dont yet know the final shape. Yeah. Doesnt it doesnt it just show since your time in parliament the extent to which were moving into a period of Big Government i and again, i think that that is something that certainly we have all felt for some time that more and more is of government is intruding into lives in a way that really should not be the case. I that really should not be the case. I appreciate that covid has just been mentioned and the pandemic and the lockdown and all those sorts of things. And yes, i think many of us did find that whilst very important points were made, especially at the when didnt know the start, when we didnt know what disease was. What on earth this disease was. But know , the medical but once you know, the medical science had got to grips to it, that telling us and ordering us to do x and not do y was a bit too far. I mean, i think that the energy bill to get back to the point in hand , shouldnt be the point in hand, shouldnt be talking about fining us. It should be talking about how are we to going fund small Scale Nuclear power, what are we going to about the grid . Those to do about the grid . All those other things, nigel, are other things, nigel, which are so important if were going to do well, i think we ought to do and make ourselves more and that is make ourselves more Energy Secure or more sustainable generally, and be careful generally on our environment, on our waste, because its a world that we want to pass to on our children and grandchildren. And many more generations. Excuse me. And that isnt a question of am i a net zero . Yes or am i a net zero . No i think im common sense. I think i sit in the reasonable category of wanting to do the right thing , but not having right thing, but not having criminal legislation put at the back of me and im losing my voice. Voice. I know. Well, i ill give you a couple of moments off by asking you a final thought and question. If you can recover in time and hope you can. And the will you be pleased . Angela, if will you be pleased . Angela, if you look out of your window in rural england and see a great big , huge onshore wind farm, is big, huge onshore wind farm, is that the right direction for us to be going in . Because it seems outside of the authority korean stuff, thats the big push , the stuff, thats the big push, the big change thats coming today do onshore wind farms work. Great big ones . No, i wouldnt like to see it if i lived in a community. A village. Youve got some hills. Village. Youve got some hills. It doesnt intrude, particularly. And we get some serious benefits from it. And anybody who is badly affected gets compensated. You know, we have compensated. You know, we have compulsory purchase arrangements in the uk, long standing ones, because when people do get impacted by infrastructure , they impacted by infrastructure, they need to be bought o