Outrageous. Do get in touch with us emailing gbviews gbnews. Com. Well get to the best, but before we start tearing each other apart and before we get into all our new features, it is time for your saturday night news with ray addison. News with ray addison. Thanks, emily, and good evening. Our top story tonight , evening. Our top story tonight, nearly 200 palestinians and at least 200 israelis have been killed with more than 1100 injured. This after the hamas terrorist Organisation Launched a surprise attack on israel. For a surprise attack on israel. For those of you watching on tv can see live footage now of the gaza skyline after thousands of rockets were fired and gunmen crossed the border in a deadly assault. Local news reporting that civilians in border towns barricade themselves in their homes and were pleading for help. Hamas says israeli captives are being held in secure places, including tunnels. Israels Energy Minister said they would cut off the Energy Supply to gaza for an secretary. James cleverly says the uk will not tolerate terrorism. The uk completely condemns these terrorist acts against israel and we support israels right to self defence. And of course we will be working closely with the israeli government. Were already contacting with them and well continue to do so both to protect british nationals in israel and to try and bring peace as quickly as possible. Peace as quickly as possible. Well , dozens of hamas well, dozens of Hamas Terrorists have been stopped by Israeli Naval personnel, according to israels defence forces. A warning for those of you watching on tv, you may find the following footage distressing. Now, earlier on distressing. Now, earlier on this morning, the idf pursued dozens of terrorists along the southern maritime area as they tried to enter israeli territory via the water. Soldiers opened fire on the militants successfully destroying four vessels. Hamas terrorists were also stopped as they tried to cross into israel along the southern border. Well, back southern border. Well, back here, 260 suspected rapist have been labelled as females by police over the last four years. Thats according to data from the crown prosecution service, which was obtained by the daily telegraph. The classification comes despite the home secretary urging police not to label rape suspects as women as by law it can only be committed by a biological male. The figures show a further 209 suspects were recorded with sex unknown. And recorded with sex unknown. And finally , the british film finally, the british film director, Terence Davies has died aged 77, following a short illness. He came to prominence in the 1970s and 80s with a string of successful films, including distant voices and still lives. Much of his work was drawn from his own experiences growing up as a working class boy in liverpool. More recently, he wrote and directed a quiet passion in which he dramatised the life of american poet emily dickinson. American poet emily dickinson. In this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news. Now lets get back to the. Saturday five. Thanks ray. Its saturday night and you are with the saturday five tonight. Im emily carver. Its been pretty hot carver. Its been pretty hot outside today and things are about to get similarly heated in here as we debate some of the biggest topics of the week. And some might have missed. Some that you might have missed. So lets crack with tonights so lets crack on with tonights first hot topic. Now then, darren is going to tell us why he is distinctly unimpressed by the bbcs new jimmy savile drama. Yes its grim time indeed i well go back to 2012. First of all, the year that the bbc decided to throw its own integrity under the bus faster than you can say, like fee robbery. Shortly after glowing eulogies for jimmy savile, the bbcs powerful presenter , pedoe bbcs powerful presenter, pedoe swiftly followed by a domino effect of resignations and accusations. The kicker , though, accusations. The kicker, though, was that newsnight had the ammo it needed for a savile expose, an expose that would have been the journalistic equivalent of a nuclear bomb. But what happened . Nuclear bomb. But what happened . Well, the bbc chickened out faster than a vegan at a butcher shop. Faster than a vegan at a butcher shop. Now here we are with the shop. Now here we are with the beeb, serving us a helpline of historical revisionism. Star and steve coogan, no less , as the steve coogan, no less, as the monster himself. A fascinating monster himself. A fascinating choice, but hey , wheres the choice, but hey, wheres the missing chapter . Beeb wheres missing chapter . Beeb wheres the newsnight probe that got shelved like last years Christmas Decorations . Theyd Christmas Decorations . Theyd rather do the cha cha with their own shame than admit that they let a predator off the hook. Could you imagine being one of those poor souls whod bared their agony to newsnights investigators, only to be told, im sorry, love, but weve decided not to go ahead with the piece. Would you like a cuppa . Talk about adding salt to an already festering wound. Former tory bigwig Iain Duncan Smith has rightly insisted that if the bbc is going to revisit this cesspool , it should be an cesspool, it should be an unfiltered plunge, showing a whole new generation how awful it was by spilling, these are his words, the true story and i say here, here too, that if anti beebs going to give us a rerun of this tawdry tale, its high time that they own up to their partner. It no more sugar coating , no partner. It no more sugar coating, no more partner. It no more sugar coating , no more convenient coating, no more convenient omissions , and certainly no more omissions, and certainly no more pretending that theyre the moral compass of the nation. So bbc, if youre going to make us relive the savile years all over again , then dont dare edit out again, then dont dare edit out your own incompetence and moral failure. Were all footing the bill for this soap opera , so at bill for this soap opera, so at least the very least that you can do is give us the directors cut. The ugly, the uglier, and the downright grotesque. Now, the downright grotesque. Now, benjamin buttennorth , i know benjamin buttennorth, i know youre all for this documentary. You were very pleased with the bbc for doing it, for one. But surely even you can recommend and recommend lies that your beloved, beloved bbc has got it wrong here by not showing that the fact that newsnight had it rare and ready to go. I mean, look, this starts on monday night and well see exactly what they do reveal. Im sure that given that he worked at the bbc for decades, his bbc career and the bbc behaviour is a big part of the story line because thats unavoidable. And i know the papers have said that this is a very well done drama, those who have seen it already, but the idea that you could say that that was the only mistake when charles friends when Prince Charles was friends with Margaret Thatcher was with him, Margaret Thatcher was said one of his biggest said to be one of his biggest fans. Letters fans. And you have letters between both those people between both of those people adonng between both of those people adoring savile. It was the adoring jimmy savile. It was the institutions that protected jimmy savile and protect did his evil. Louis theroux , who made evil. Louis theroux, who made a bbc documentary, got closer than anybody else. And that was aired in the noughties. And hes spoken about his regret about being hoodwinked out of it. But ijust being hoodwinked out of it. But i just quickly make one other point that there will be a lot of people watching who of people watching this who think that because behaviour think that because his behaviour was that was clearly so abhorrent that they make a drama and they shouldnt make a drama and that would be a mistake. By that argument, have argument, we would never have extraordinary films like schindlers. I think schindlers list. I think showing and how it was showing the evil and how it was made possible is a way to try and stop these things happening in future. Well, i mean, leo, i dont think anyone watching this bbc drama on jimmy savile, who potentially may have been a, is going to watch it and think, well, im not going to be a anymore. In the same way that watching schindlers list, you wouldnt think, well, cant wouldnt think, well, we cant make mistakes of the past. Sorry, i dont think anyone thought im going to be a jew murdering and then watch schindlers change schindlers list and change their point is that their mind. The point is that you to not make you see, to not make the mistakes the no ones mistakes of the past, no ones going watch the bbc be going to watch the bbc and be like, oh, well, actually i wont be a anymore. Dory happy days. Jimmy hunky dory happy days. Jimmy savile they might see ways in but they might see ways in which could prevented, but which it could be prevented, but i that we already know i dont see that we already know the up and the the full cover up and the protection of, of man. But protection of, of the man. But as i said, theyre not as i just said, theyre not theyre not airing completely with. I completely agree with you. I completely agree with you. I completely agree with bbc should with you that the bbc should very be shining light on very much be shining a light on their failings when it comes their own failings when it comes to savile. Like when their own failings when it comes to have savile. Like when their own failings when it comes to have othere. Like when their own failings when it comes to have other broadcasters1en their own failings when it comes to have other broadcasters that you have other broadcasters that have similar things going on, they should also too. I think thats fair enough to say. They should also too. I think thats fair enough to say. But we have to see the we will have to see the documents itself, the series, the drama series, sorry. I think weve also got to remember jimmy may remember that jimmy savile may have some terrible things, have done some terrible things, but of best but he made some of the best saturday night tv that has ever been on british terrestrial broadcasting. And i think we broadcasting. And i think we have to we have to remember that. So it was it was it was you cannot miss a jimll fix it know my mother my mother told me that she used to write in every week asking jim to fix it. And do you know what i thank god that he never did, frankly. But it just showed the cultural phenomenon that he was. I was very that leo has come dressed as a 1970s entertainer. As a 1970s entertainer. For those listening on radio benjamins come dressed as one of the victims, ive come as a cabbie, actually, leo got it. So good to have you two back together, going for each other. But on jimmy savile, i think im actually with both emily and ben on one. Darren i do think on this one. Darren i do think its right that the has its right that the bbc has made this a drama. I know there this into a drama. I know there was some controversy about whether or not should be whether or not it should be a drama a document tree, and drama or a document tree, and i wasnt sure about it. But but after giving it some thought, i think theres just something about which allow about drama us which allow people understand exactly about drama us which allow peop|happened stand exactly about drama us which allow peop|happenedstandthan tly what happened more than documents. And actually, there are be some scenes in are meant to be some scenes in this documentary which are pretty actually. Pretty awful to watch, actually. And things that and theyre not things that people normally see. And i think it sometimes it is important sometimes to be able dramatise that so people able to dramatise that so people actually understand the hardship that people went accurate. Do you think should is a do you think it should is a drama series, not a documentary . Do you think there should therefore be creative licence . Or when it comes to something as important as this and what jimmy savile, the crimes that he committed , do you think that it committed, do you think that it should they should stick to exactly what happened . Because exactly what happened . Because people often talk about this when theres royal drama. Yeah. Like the crown. Yeah. Like the crown. Yeah. About licence. They talk about licence. Yeah. Of creative yeah. What level of creative licence is there . , i think ultimately with look, i think ultimately with any drama, theres going to be some licence some creative licence because its creative process. Its a creative process. When you something. And you make something. And of course only people course the only people that actually know exactly what happened jimmy happened might have been jimmy savile people who were savile and the people who were involved. There will some involved. So there will be some level licence and level of dramatic licence and that allowed, but it that should be allowed, but it should something which is should not be something which is a. We should be a total fantasy. We should be trying the facts and trying to stick to the facts and making it as realistic as possible being possible without it being inappropriate for bbc. Bbc has got a pretty good the bbc has got a pretty good track this with track record of doing this with dramas like with three girls, which dealt with the which which dealt with the grooming issue. They grooming gang issue. So they dealt sensitively but dealt with that sensitively but also shy away from some also didnt shy away from some of the worst crimes of the worst at the worst crimes that they committed. Darren, do you actually and darren, do you actually think they shouldnt be think that they shouldnt be doing this, this at all . Doing this, this drama at all . Im on fence that. Im on the fence about that. I do think theres something to be about the bbc marking be said about the bbc marking its failures here. Its own past failures here. Yeah, and actually, perhaps it would have been better for a different broadcast master to have produced Something Like this. Personally, i dont think im going to be able to watch it because i find whole because i just find the whole tale. Utterly gruesome and tale. So utterly gruesome and the there was so much the fact that there was so much establishment collusion and turning a blind what this turning a blind eye to what this man did, but maybe thats why we should be glad that that this drama has made. Drama has been made. And actually, think it and actually, i think it speaks about the bbc speaks volumes about the bbc that to that theyve been willing to take on. That theyve been willing to taknbuton. That theyve been willing to taknbut benjamin, i mean, after but benjamin, i mean, after there was briefly theres an incident on gb news where somebody something somebody said something inappropriate about a woman. People bbc were calling people on the bbc were calling for gb news actually be shut for gb news to actually be shut down. Why is the bbc not down. Why why is the bbc not calling for itself to be shut down . Mean, what jimmy savile down . I mean, what jimmy savile did you know, forgive me, did is, you know, forgive me, but slightly worse. Well, therell be lots of views coming and fast views coming in thick and fast on email about that one. But were to go to albie now were going to go to albie now because albie is going to be asking why minority right wing voters for bigotry. Take voters suffer for bigotry. Take it away, albie. It away, albie. Bigotry is never acceptable. Bigotry is never acceptable. Well, except if you are a right wing ethnic minority or indeed religious minority or lgbt. Q if you are gay and black, well , you you are gay and black, well, you must be self hating or confused or a labour mp like rupert. Hark will say that youre not really black gay and right wing. Youre a self hating transphobe or if youre a hindu and right wing and you dont believe in open borders, the guardian will draw a caricature sure of you, of a of a cow, which is a sacred animal in the hindu faith. Now i believe that bigotry and discrimination are unacceptable. All but its very clear from information that i find found out at the conservative Party Conference earlier on this week that that is not the opinion of many on the left, far from it. In fact, i was told many stories about conservative Party Members who were discriminate against in manchester just for being conservatives. I heard a story conservatives. I heard a story about a young gay man who was ambushed at 3 00 in the morning by a group of five. He was told that he was tories scum and that he should go and f himself off. Thanks for that, Angela Rayner i was told about a group of gay conservatives who were out in the village who were the gay village who were enjoying a drink, quietly getting their own getting on with their own business, then he were getting on with their own businesout then he were getting on with their own businesout of then he were getting on with their own businesout of the bar� were getting on with their own businesout of the bar juste getting on with their own businesout of the bar just for thrown out of the bar just for being conservatives, though it has to my attention has been brought to my attention that a drink may have been thrown as the as the group of people were being thrown out. Some might, some might say good on them. The simple fact of the on them. The simple fact of the matter is bigotry and discrimination are not acceptable. So why is it that left wingers want people like me to submit to the woke dogma . Im to submit to the woke dogma . Im not going anywhere. And to those not going anywhere. And to those people at home who are from ethnic minority backgrounds or gay or from a religious minority who dont submit to the woke dogma , im right behind you to dogma, im right behind you to those to those of you who hate us, were not going anywhere. We us, were not going anywhere. We wont shut up. We wont go away. And well never be left wing. And well never be left wing. Benjamin you must consort with these types of people quite a lot who seem to be very able people. You do . Youre not one people. You do . Youre not one of them yourself. Who seem to be very confused by people like me who will say things like, ill be youre a self hating gay or ill be youre an do you ever tell them to . Not well, i mean, i wouldnt use those words, the latter being racist, in my opinion. But look, frankly, i listened to that monologue and i thought, get over yourself. Actually over yourself. I actually i think is a special place think there is a special place in hell reserved