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Yeah okay. Yeah its okay. Yeah its okay. Recovered. Had therapy. Ive had trauma therapy. Its fine. Yeah. Yeah. Its difficult. Worked its difficult. Ive worked with for a long time how. Now. Its running me down. Its running me down. You call it work . Well, do you call it work . Well, do you call it work . No, i dont call it work. But i cant hardly call it a holiday. Can i . No, but you are difficult sometimes. Because. Because you know what . The truth and authenticity. And thats why i think for think joe romeros famous for that that right . I would say that is that right . I would say youre famous your youre famous for your authenticity as a person. Authenticity as a person. Yeah, well, well find yeah, yeah, well, well find out, wont we . Weve got a whole houn out, wont we . Weve got a whole hour, see. Out, wont we . Weve got a whole h0l lets see. Out, wont we . Weve got a whole h0llets first see. Out, wont we . Weve got a whole h0llets first have a look at lets first have a look at the front of sundays the front pages of sundays newspapers. So sunday newspapers. And so the sunday times with chancellor times is leading with chancellor in last fight to cut tax in last ditch fight to cut tax by £0. 02. And the observer is running with the same story. Tax cuts will backfire. Top economists warn hunt. The sunday express also has that story, but it goes with the headline cut tax lose grey vote and the tax or lose grey vote and the sunday mirror. Different story here. Andrew faces fresh Court Bombshell. Well get to that in just one moment. And the daily star a rather bizarre front cover. My name is megan and im a mayo holic. Those were your front pages. Front pages. Okay, so this story is dominating most of the front pages. Louis were going to start with the sunday express. What have they got . What have they got . It says angry pensioners pre budget warning cut pre budget warning to hunt cut tax or lose the grey vote. What is the grey vote . The grey vote is the grey vote . The grey vote is like me and our and is people like me and our and our audience members like old people ageist. It is people like they ageist. It is it it is basically this is it is it is basically this is a non story because. Oh, do you think its this is the jeremy hunt is hes backtracking on cutting taxes by 2. And this is income tax. And this is income tax. This is income tax. And it was it was supposed to cut the national insurance. Yes, national insurance. Yes, i believe yes. Which old people dont pay anyway. You get 65 dont pay anyway. You get 65 over 65 years old. The thing. Over 65 years old. The thing. So the point is that effectively the tories have to be courting their traditional vote voting base, which is the older people. Yeah. And if they older people. Yeah. And if they lose them, have no chance lose them, they have no chance whatsoever. Lose them, they have no chance whtyesaver. Lose them, they have no chance whtyes. Fer. Lose them, they have no chance whtyes. Thats an all things yes. Thats an all things being equal. But we live in a time right now where the other side has so many negatives going against them. If they think that they need to cut the taxes 2 to get people to vote for the conservatives, then theyre in la la land. Joe, does it feel a bit desperate . Because i keep heanng desperate . Because i keep hearing these things about tories, keep throwing out these policies, changing their minds, trying to court the vote. Havent they lost this havent they just lost at this point . Um, i think they yeah, um, i think they have. Yeah, i time, i think theyve had enough time, havent , to help people. Think over 65, i read i think these over 65, i read so many stories and like theyre really struggling. Yes. You are, theyre really struggling. Uh, fuel poverty , struggling. Uh, fuel poverty, um, food poverty. I mean. Um, food poverty. I mean. Yeah. Yeah. And we need to be looking after our over 65. Dont we . Dont we . Yeah, of course we do. And of course, the heating bills at the moment are not very good. Wait a second. Well that wasnt at was it. Wasnt aimed at lewis was it. The doesnt think that the audience doesnt think that im over 65. Because youve been no, because youve been telling twitter telling people on twitter that youre telling people on twitter that youyeah. And you know what . They yeah. And you know what . They believe english believe it because english people horrible. Mean, believe it because english peotrue. Horrible. Mean, its true. I mean, dont point at me when you say that. Mean, i do when you say that. I mean, i do think is i think youre think this is i think youre absolutely and absolutely right, you know, and heating particularly heating bills are particularly bad. And i i its bad. And ijust, i its interesting because i saw poll bad. And ijust, i its interertraditionalse i saw poll bad. And ijust, i its interertraditional conservative ll about traditional conservative voters turning voters are even turning away from you know, they from the tories. You know, they have to convince their own voters to vote for them. They have to convince their own voter no vote for them. They have to convince their own voter no chance r them. They have to convince their own voter no chance with m. They have to convince their own voter no chance with the they have to convince their own voter no chance with the floating have no chance with the floating voters, do theyve voters, do they . Theyve no. Youre voters, do they . Theyve no. You but personal is but my personal feeling is its reason. Its not for that reason. I dont think that the i dont its not for that reason. I dont these that the i dont its not for that reason. I dont these torythe i dont its not for that reason. I dont these tory voters,nt its not for that reason. I dont these tory voters, i t its not for that reason. I dont these tory voters, i dont know these tory voters, i dont speak many people, english speak to many people, english people, interested. But speak to many people, english peo i. E, interested. But speak to many people, english peo i think interested. But speak to many people, english peo i think regularerested. But speak to many people, english peo i think regular people but speak to many people, english peo i think regular people would but i think regular people would like a cut. Right now like a 2 cut. But right now theres mass immigration. Theres the boats, theres riots in the streets. You think these things are going to be more important when it comes the important when it comes to the general election . Id general election . I do, and id like what joe has. Joe like to hear what joe has. Joe thinks she doesnt notice that the things are like, the other things are like, because joe, because isnt it right, joe, that economy that normally its the economy and normally money that and normally its money that people to actually people go out to actually vote for . I think people have i think i think people have worked lives and put worked their whole lives and put all savings into whatever all their savings into whatever their and, uh, theyre their homes and, uh, theyre looking to retire to and, and have a good life. And theres have a good life. And theres like towards the end of their life, not all this worry and i dont know that they are thinking about the boats and the all that i think. I think theyre thinking about how do i heat home, put food on the heat my home, put food on the table provide care for my table and provide care for my elderly husband . Or, you know , elderly husband . Or, you know, shouldnt we be looking after the eldest in society . The eldest in society . Isnt that the sign of a civilised society . Is. But whos going to pay it is. But whos going to pay for is that for it . And the fact is that these people, nothing these old people, nothing personal including personal and im including myself they are myself in it. They are bankrupting country now. Bankrupting the country now. Would you say at the so what would you say at the age just have to walk age 60, you just have to walk off theres a off a cliff. I think theres a movie about that. Is it midsommar . Is it midsommar . Is it midsommar . I think there is. I think there is. Yeah. Yeah. A grim idea. Were what a grim idea. Okay, were going to the front going to move on to the front cover sunday mirror. Cover of the sunday mirror. Theyre a theyre going with something a bit joe, got bit different. Joe, you got this . Um, yes, i do. So this is, um. Yeah, mirror. Prince um. Yeah, the mirror. Prince andrew faces fresh Court Bombshell as Jeffrey Epstein. Evidence made public. Evidence to be made public. Right. So the full details of the duke of yorks lobbying us authorities to accept the billionaires plea deal over sex offence will be made public with. Yeah. So he didnt want this to out, yeah to come out, right . Yeah ultimately, he was trying to get the Us Government to reach a plea deal with epstein. And then plea deal with epstein. And then and now the details of that are going to emerge. And the problem with that, suppose, is that with that, i suppose, is that doesnt andrew this doesnt Prince Andrew at this point go away, point just want it to go away, you know . Yeah, i think is it Emily Maitlis . That the lady maitlis . Is that the lady who interviewed i think that interviewed him . I think that was a done deal, wasnt it, at that point when he started going on about sweating, it no that point when he started going on awas sweating, it no that point when he started going on awas buying eating, it no that point when he started going on awas buying it|ting, it no that point when he started going on awas buying it and. It no that point when he started going on awas buying it and it no that point when he started going on awas buying it and i think no that point when he started going on awas buying it and i think it one was buying it and i think it was a done deal. There and um, i used to be friends with him, didnt he. He used to be his friend and its always going be tainting its always going to be tainting him. Think the concern him. And i think the concern now, louis, is that hes presumably he be presumably worried he wont be able return royal duties able to return to royal duties if he wants to. Its pretty, you know, well, its pretty, you know, its story because its a really sad story because the have much in his the guy didnt have much in his life everything that had , life and everything that he had, hes and he was hes basically lost. And he was like on top for his. Like riding on top for his. Prince andrew didnt have much in his life. No, he was a prince. He was a prince. But he was the everything the best of everything he did his he he didnt his whole life. He he didnt have to fight for it. Like ive had fight to be on had a fight to be on this channel. He he did. And im channel. He he he did. And im going you have this going to say you have this incredible habit of making everything is everything about you. It is about what makes this about me. And what makes this story so interesting is about me. And what makes this storylm interesting is about me. And what makes this storylm going;ting is about me. And what makes this storylm going t0|g is about me. And what makes this storylm going to be is about me. And what makes this storylm going to be playing that im going to be playing jeffrey the in the Jeffrey Epstein in the in the crown episode episode. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Well, i mean, but you can see, louis, you do resemble him. I do resemble him. Im similar epstein in similar to Jeffrey Epstein in that way alone. That way, hopefully. Hopefully. But you know, know what . The thing know, you know what . The thing is this this guy , i know, you is this this guy, i know, you think, oh, prince. And he think, oh, hes a prince. And he should on top of the world, should be on top of the world, but didnt work for but he didnt he didnt work for very much. He did a little bit of stuff and hes got his own problems. Am i the only one problems. Why am i the only one to care about this guy . Well, when you own, to care about this guy . � know, when you own, to care about this guy . � know, counties, hen you own, to care about this guy . � know, counties, it n you own, to care about this guy . � know, counties, it doesnt nn, you know, counties, it doesnt really how youre really matter how much youre earning, it . Earning, does it . I dont know what the prince, Prince Andrew owns, i dont think. No, i dont know, actually, think. Be , i dont know, actually, think. Be honest,t know, actually, think. Be honest, im ow, actually, think. Be honest, im ow, making it up. So you feel sorry for him . So you feel sorry for him . I actually, i feel sorry. I actually, i feel sorry. I actually, i feel sorry. I feel sorry for him. I feel sorry for him. Louis. Yes, feel sorry louis. Yes, i do feel sorry for him. Okay . Because because louis. Yes, i do feel sorry for hirthat ay . Because because louis. Yes, i do feel sorry for hirthat feeling ause because louis. Yes, i do feel sorry for hirthat feeling ofse because louis. Yes, i do feel sorry for hirthat feeling of like acause louis. Yes, i do feel sorry for hirthat feeling of like being what . That feeling of like being exposed having and having no exposed and having and having no respect anymore. Well, once you respect anymore. Well, once you could go anywhere and raise your head up high. Yeah. And now people dont like to see that there people dont like to see that the there is some sympathy i have there is some sympathy i have for the royal family born into this have for the royal family born into thibe have for the royal family born into thibe constantly have for the royal family born into thibe constantly photographed to be constantly photographed and absolutely to be constantly photographed and its absolutely to be constantly photographed and its i absolutely to be constantly photographed and its i mean, utely to be constantly photographed and its i mean, its. Y everyone. Its i mean, its i suppose its what louis gets all the time anyway, just because youre a natural charisma. Then then yes. And then and then its similar me you know, similar to me is, you know, suddenly people want to suddenly people dont want to hang me. Wonder why. Hang out with me. I wonder why. All lets have a look all right, lets have a look on front cover of the sunday on the front cover of the sunday times. Yeah. This is, uh. Well, theyve story , theyve got the tax cut story, but theyre also covering this drug problem. Whats this about . Well , all drug problem. Whats this about . Well, all this is widely prescribed anti anxiety drug unked prescribed anti anxiety drug linked to hundreds of deaths. Linked to hundreds of deaths. And thats the drug. The drug is called pregabalin. Prague pregabalin. Pregabalin and in america, it was originally called nana. Then. Have you heard of that . I think ive heard of that . I think ive heard of that . I think ive heard of that. And its this this is very interesting because the times is i pointed out in the times is i pointed out in the past is the number one drug pushen the past is the number one drug pusher. Theyre always pushing drugs, saying new drug on the honzon drugs, saying new drug on the horizon for this new drug. But this is a story about a drugs linked to death. Thats not a way to advertise. And thats whats so shocking for this. On the front page for this. Its on the front page of thing. It says of the of the thing. It says that its the drug that was unked that its the drug that was linked that was used for back pain, for epilepsy. Pain, for anxiety, for epilepsy. Yeah. And, uh , hundreds , at yeah. And, uh, hundreds, at least a hundred times more people have died in the last. And theyre only discovering this now. This is something thats an american drug. Is it . Is it . Yeah, apparently. Yeah. Well, most the comes from. Most of the stuff comes from. I mean, this a worry, isnt mean, isnt this a worry, isnt it, that, you theres only it, that, you know, theres only so trials they can do and so many trials they can do and you dont necessarily know the long yeah. And long terme effects . Yeah. And were risks were always taking some risks with we. Yeah. E theres en i think theres some really interesting, i think theres some really intere out}, america about the i think theres some really interesystemamerica about the i think theres some really intere system. Yeah ca about the i think theres some really intere system. Yeah you bout the i think theres some really intere system. Yeah you know, re i think theres some really intere system. Yeah you know, its drug system. Yeah you know, its a money making machine. Um, to the detriment of peoples health. Yeah but saying that, um , i think anti anxiety medications are really important. You do . Why . Why would you say that, jeff . Because im in the menopause. Oh, and its a massive symptom that women have, uh, of anxiety. That women have, uh, of anxiety. Yeah. Huge anxiety cripples anxiety and the pills are presumably effective. Presumably effective. Otherwise. Otherwise. Well, yeah, but theres also i think theres, theres also like some if you dont take them consistently, they can have really effects on really detrimental effects on your mental health. So your on your mental health. So yeah a tricky time. Yeah. Yeah its a tricky time. Yeah. Its tricky. Thats one thats one of and thats one thats one of the what the symptoms. Thats what they say that gone say here is that its gone downhill. So um yeah, that doesnt mean so does that mean im in the menopause because i have suffer from crippling. Have suffer from crippling. Yeah, well you do. I i dont think its menopausal. I think you have other reasons for your anxiety. Mostly because your lack of social skills. Yeah. And lack of social skills. Yeah. And the constant embarrassing situations yourself situations you put yourself into. What it is into. Is that maybe what it is thats possible. Actually, have actually, i dont have crippling anxiety. I wish i did. Yeah, wish you were bit yeah, i wish you were a bit more reflection. Exactly more self reflection. Exactly a little more self reflection. Exactly a littlim a little confident. Im a little too confident. Im a little too confident. Know louis . You know what, louis . You know what, louis . For you, i think. Anxiety for you, i think. Anxiety for you, i think. Louis lacks he well, louis lacks shame. He lacks degree of shame. Lacks a healthy degree of shame. And why i dont and i think thats why i dont know if i believe that, you know, you put your head on know, when you put your head on the when no one the pillow at night, when no one sees cry . The pillow at night, when no one seewhat . Cry . What . What . What . What really goes . What really goes . Do i cry . But, you know, as i said last night, was said last night, i was prescribed an anti anxiety drug, citalopram. Yeah. And i went into doctor in peckham east into my doctor in peckham east village and she just looked at me and said, you look depressed. And she just handed me a prescription for this. As easy as that, it was as easy as that. There was no, like, questioning, psychiatrist, there was no, like, questioniits psychiatrist, there was no, like, questioniits pthe|iatrist, there was no, like, questioni its pthe wayst, there was no, like, questioni its pthe way this just you. Its just the way this the countries awash in the cold countries awash in unnecessary medication. Yeah, but this is a point. Youve made many times. Yes, louis. So well move on now to the front cover the daily the front cover of the daily star. Weird one. The front cover of the daily stainame weird one. The front cover of the daily stainame is weird one. The front cover of the daily stainame is megan. 3ird one. The front cover of the daily stainame is megan. Im one. The front cover of the daily stainame is megan. Im a|e. The front cover of the daily stainame is megan. Im a mere my name is megan. Im a mere holic, right . This is so. This is someone at daily star . Is someone at the daily star . Yeah. This young woman who has become because eats become famous because she eats lots of mayonnaise, and she puts it things like curries and it on things like curries and porridge. What do you make of that . Do you have any feeling about personally , i about this . Uh, personally, i think that would be very, very bad for the bowel. Much. Uh mayonnaise. Too much. Uh mayonnaise. Too much. Uh mayonnaise. Thats probably right. Um, but become famous for this but shes become famous for this. I dont know if people. I mean, i dont know if people can is a photograph of can see there is a photograph of the mayonnaise the woman kissing a mayonnaise bottle. It is the bottle. And there it is on the full thats shes. Full screen. Thats why shes. Thats why shes famous. So were just creating celebrities out no out of nothing. Louis. For no good tiktok isnt it . Good reason. Tiktok isnt it . Is that it is . Its the. Is that what it is . Yeah yeah. Well, thats probably full of sugar. That product that shes yes. If shes got and she feels. Yes. If i do something radical with i just do something radical with it, i can become a tiktok. I just do something radical with it, or|n become a tiktok. I just do something radical with it, or are ecome a tiktok. I just do something radical with it, or are the ne a tiktok. I just do something radical with it, or are the dailyiktok. I just do something radical with it, or are the daily star or are the daily star scraping bottom of the scraping the bottom of the barrel . I mean, they could have covered tax cuts. They could barrel . I mean, they could have covercovered uts. They could barrel . I mean, they could have covercovered prince ay could barrel . I mean, they could have covercovered Prince Andrew. Have covered Prince Andrew. Revelations no, they went revelations but no, they went with the woman kissing. Revelations but no, they went witiwell,woman kissing. Revelations but no, they went witiwell, theyan kissing. Revelations but no, they went witiwell, they and ssing. Revelations but no, they went witiwell, they and ss doesnt well, they and it doesnt even doesnt even mention boffins. It doesnt mention big people from outer space. Story is actually space. That story is actually a tragedy because it doesnt have sugarin tragedy because it doesnt have sugar in mayonnaise. Mayonnaise sugar in mayonnaise. Mayonnaise used be almost healthy , but used to be almost healthy, but now its made out of, uh , made now its made out of, uh, made of rapeseed that real sugar of rapeseed oil. That real sugar in it. No, it doesnt processed. In it. No, it doesnt processed. Its mayonnaise has very little sugan its mayonnaise has very little sugar. But i think well have to have to check it up at the break. But it has. Its made out of rapeseed oil, i think given thats a silly story, we dont need to spend too much more time on that. So thats the front okay, so thats the front page do join us page is done. But do join us after break. Were going to after the break. Were going to be about gaza bullying be talking about gaza bullying tactics punishment tactics and unusual punishment for the for an iranian singer and the journey make millennials the journey to make millennials the richest in history. Richest generation in history. Dont go anywhere welcome back to headliners. Your first look at sundays newspapers. Im andrew doyle. Newspapers. Im andrew doyle. Im still here with Louis Schaefer and joe romero. Were going to kick off with the sunday times and pro palestinian activist groups accused of bullying louis, what have you got . Ive got good news. Uh, gaza demonstration reveal trend for bullying tactics. And this is this is basically about the, uh, psa , which is the palestinian psa, which is the palestinian solidarity campaign. And theyre the ones who are organising a lot of these things. This is its not even a news story. Its just a list of everything that this group has done in all the different harassments that theyve had, all the all the, uh, the mps that theyve been protesting in front of and the things theyve been shouting and theyve been particularly going after labour mps havent they. Been breaking into theyve been breaking into various meetings various sort of Council Meetings and thing. So what and that sort of thing. So what the here, louis, is, at the question here, louis, is, at what point does raucous protests, which of course is legal. Yeah. Across the line into intimidation and harassment i well, i think when people are not arrested , thats when it not arrested, thats when it when we cant arrest people for peaceful protest, can you. Yeah. But if it goes past the line of peaceful protest where theyre doing something illegal, they should arrested, but theyre should be arrested, but theyre not putting not being arrested. Putting the thing to the sea. Thing from the river to the sea. You i mean, you could you know, i mean, you could debate whether thats okay to say, but thats like, you know, thats incitement to mass murder. Joe, do you agree with that . Joe, do you agree with that . Joe, do you agree with that . Um, i believe that , uh, any um, i believe that, uh, any demonstration , um, the idea is demonstration, um, the idea is to disrupt , right . Demonstration, um, the idea is to disrupt, right . Yeah. Um and i dont think being outside a politicians house or their workplace is right, but organised. Um demonstrations happen and if any, if any , if happen and if any, if any, if theres any hate speech or placards, then youre pulled out i well, its interesting, isnt it . Because when the tories introduced their police crime and sentencing bill, one of the things the things that they empowered the police to do is to shut down a protest. If it too noisy. Protest. If it was too noisy. But i think joe is right that protests to be noisy, protests are going to be noisy, theyre be disruptive. Theyre going to be disruptive. Otherwise they wouldnt be protest. Theyre going theyve got louis. But got to annoy someone, louis. But youre um, youre talking about, um, criminalising. Protest. Criminalising. Yeah protest. Just because we dont happen to like the tenor of the people there. No im not saying that. Saying , like, as joe im saying, like, as joe said, taking place said, theyre taking place outside the guys house. Well, no. Ho. No. Different. No, joe, thats different. No, joe, joe when said joe was saying no when i said was should that should was that that should that should not yeah. Was that that should that should notyeah. That should was that that should that should not yeah. That should not be yeah. That that should not be because thats invasion of privacy. What about what about blocking streets where you didnt it . Didnt get permission to do it . What about what about threatening was one of the people. The threats are illegal already. I mean, this is somethings obviously theres a problem. Weve had lindsay hoyle, of house hoyle, the speaker of the house of saying hes of commons, saying that hes seen threats death seen very scary threats of death and mps. And violence against mps. Obviously its already illegal, right . As long as were right . Yeah. So as long as were applying law stopping applying the law and stopping that. But i get a bit nervous when you see people saying, we need down on protests need to crack down on protests because inconven isnt because theyre inconven isnt because theyre inconven isnt because you. You because that will bite you. You know, that its going to because they that they will then have that precedent and they apply precedent and they can apply it to demonstration. To any protest demonstration. Affect radical change. I can affect radical change. I was was reading this was when i was reading this story, thinking about story, i was thinking about the suffragettes know, suffragettes. You know, how they, um, you know , whats they, um, um, you know, whats it called . Cufflink themselves, not cufflinks. What they call not cufflinks. What they call handcuff handcuffed. Yeah. Youd know. Handcuff themselves to railings and, you know, okay, they threw bricks through i think selfridges window. We dont want to be doing that. But they also set off bombs. But they also set off bombs. Yeah, we dont want to be doing we dont to be doing that. We dont want to be doing that. We dont want to be doing you know , that doing that. But, you know, that made in womens made a huge change in in womens rights. Important to get the its important to get the balance isnt same balance right, isnt it . Same with you know, with just stop oil. You know, like there should be like i think there should be a protest wherever but protest wherever they want. But as soon as theyre preventing people getting to hospital as soon as theyre preventing peclife getting to hospital as soon as theyre preventing peclife changinging to hospital as soon as theyre preventing peclife changing surgery ospital for life changing surgery or if theyre, know, actually theyre, you know, actually smashing windows, theyre theyre, you know, actually smashingthe windows, theyre theyre, you know, actually smashingthe law,iows, theyre theyre, you know, actually smashingthe law, just theyre theyre, you know, actually smashingthe law, just applyre theyre, you know, actually smashingthe law, just apply the breaking the law, just apply the law, all they do. So thats all they got to do. So they dont to say they dont need to say demonstrations they demonstrations are illegal. They just. Just say apply apply. Seem to have a we dont seem to have a problem this country with problem in this country with people at the people breaking the law at the sarajevo raid. Um, you know, where flowers sarajevo raid. Um, you know, wheryou flowers sarajevo raid. Um, you know, wheryou know flowers sarajevo raid. Um, you know, wheryou know , flowers sarajevo raid. Um, you know, wheryou know , they flowers sarajevo raid. Um, you know, wheryou know , they got flowers sarajevo raid. Um, you know, wheryou know , they got very ers and, you know, they got very heavy handed and there doesnt seem to be a problem there with arresting people. Well, thats it, because its inconsistent of application inconsistent of the application of think thats what of the laws. I think thats what really gets people and people see okay. Well, lets move see it. Okay. Well, lets move on a labour on to the observer. A Labour Government would enforce police to training on on to undergo training on on combating violence against women. This about . Combating violence against women. Yeah this about . Combating violence against women. Yeah. 1is about . Combating violence against women. Yeah. So about . Combating violence against women. Yeah. So this|t . Combating violence against women. Yeah. So this is from the yeah. So this is from the observer and police to get compulsory training on violence against women under labour plans. Labour bosses think the training must be mandatory. Currently it is up to individual forces and police and Crime Commissioners choose what level of training officers get in protecting women. Protecting women. Are they not already trained in this kind of thing . There is a long history , there is a long history, isnt there . Theres no theres not just a i or 2 bad apples. Theres a long history of, um , theres a long history of, um, really corrupt Police Officers getting away with it. And giving them an instructional training video isnt going to cut it. Thats an interesting point. Would this really help . Because i mean, you know, take the example of wayne couzens, which is example of the is the obvious example of the police who, know, Police Officer who, you know, sadistic and there were sadistic murderer and there were signs people were saying, well, there way that there were signs of the way that he uh, things he behaved, uh, the things that he behaved, uh, the things that he but the trouble is, you he said. But the trouble is, you cant just assume that that kind of banter is indicative of psychopathic behaviour , and psychopathic behaviour, and psychopaths arent going to change their behaviour because of a training video, presumably. Theyre lie in a and theyre going to lie in a training every training video. And every time i think theres something thats going now with going on right now with government all about like, government, its all about like, lets more, lets propose lets do more, lets propose more. Truth is, people more. And the truth is, people dont. Dont respect , dont. People dont respect, they dont respect the state. They dont listen to the state. Thats Something Like this. Whos going to be producing this thing . Yeah, but wait a minute. Arent there situations where the police might not be aware of, particularly male police might aware of certain might not be aware of certain signs, that maybe women signs, signals that maybe women are experiencing Domestic Violence or Something Like that. So i mean, surely they should be trained that, right . They trained in that, right . They should be trained, but is is should be trained, but is but is like i dont know what like the well, i dont know what you call it. Federal government of the federal government of this , are going this country, are they going to be or you just be involved in this or you just have send directive and have to send a directive out and say, what . What i tell say, you know what . What i tell you they should if when you what they should be if when things missed, like in things are missed, like in the sandie thing that the sandie vara thing is that the local Police Forces should be sued. I know this, this is sued. And i know this, this is not a litigious society, but it should be. And then theyll be afraid. Afraid. Okay, germany further thoughts . Um , i dont know what theyre um, i dont know what theyre going to do if i, if im on to you. I dont know what theyre going to do to gain back the trust of the girls. And the women of this country. I dont know. Well, particularly the met police have faced a lot of accusations, havent they . Yeah. Not good. Okay. Going not good. Okay. Were going to move story. This move on to this next story. This is telegraph. This is is the sunday telegraph. This is actually about is the sunday telegraph. This is actiranian about is the sunday telegraph. This is actiranian pop about is the sunday telegraph. This is actiranian pop star. About is the sunday telegraph. This is actiranian pop star. Lewis, rout an iranian pop star. Lewis, youve this one. Youve got this one. Its is a horrible yeah, its it is a horrible story. Singer gets story. Iranian singer gets unusual punishment for writing anti regime song. He this guy. His name is, uh, sherwood. His name is, uh, sherwood. Shirvan. Shirvan. Hajji jaipur. Um. He wrote a song in 2020 or 22. Very successful , very 22. Very successful, very successful. So it was like an anthem for the movement, for women who wanted more freedom. Women who wanted more freedom. They wanted feminism in, um, in iran. I dont even think they wanted feminism. I just think they wanted the right to wear what they want and not beaten up by their not be beaten up by their morality is a form of feminism. Well, it was well, well, it was a successful but now the successful song, but now the regime imprisoning him for regime are imprisoning him for three and a half years and forcing him write an anti us forcing him to write an anti us song exactly. Which probably song exactly. Which probably will be an atrocious bit of music. Will be an atrocious bit of music. Probably. If i was him, id make it deliberately atrocious. But i mean, this mean, heres the thing. This that least creative that is at least a creative punishment. But it is a reminder, isnt joe . Of how reminder, isnt it, joe . Of how tyrannous the Iranian Regime is and it would be to and how horrible it would be to live under it. I was looking a protest, i was looking at a protest, protest music to die for. Protest songs, music to die for. I mean , hell, you know, youre i mean, hell, you know, youre you create a song that you may be put to death for. I mean, its just, well, thats a proper protest song, isnt it . I mean, takes courage. I mean, it takes courage. I mean, it takes courage. Takes absolute courage, it takes absolute courage, you know . Well, similarly, takes well, similarly, it takes courage women to courage for the women to be throwing their veils, throwing off their veils, burning streets. Burning them in the streets. What amini . What happened to mahsa amini . You know, people are actually risking their lives their risking their lives for their rights. Have but rights. I have nothing but admiration rights. I have nothing but adri ration rights. I have nothing but adri think you can. But at the i think you can. But at the same time , not at the same time. Same time, not at the same time. Iran is losing its Popular Support is in the last election, which was like two days ago. I think they got like less than 30 of the 30 of the people in the who voted because the country who voted because the country who voted because the all the candidates were vetted by the by the well, the regime is by the regime popular. So theyre not popular. So regime is by the regime popular. So theyre not popular. So this is the last gasp. Is the last gasp. Yeah. It might you know, we might be veering towards revolution which revolution there. Yeah. Which you know well theres not going to settled democratically. To be settled democratically. Lets on to the mail on lets move on to the mail on sunday. Now millennials sunday. Now and uh, millennials and money. Jo. Ah yes. This is yeah. Mail on sunday. A while 30 year olds should get £10,000 taxpayers cash amid growing inequality , cash amid growing inequality, says tory peer lord willetts, despite claims that rising inheritances could make affluent millennials the richest generation in history. Okay, youre going to have to talk me through that. So where is this money coming from . So this that we give all 30 this idea that we give all 30 year olds ten grand. Yeah where this idea that we give all 30 year olgoing grand. Yeah where this idea that we give all 30 year olgoing to and. Yeah where this idea that we give all 30 year olgoing to get yeah where this idea that we give all 30 year olgoing to get that] where this idea that we give all 30 year olgoing to get that . Nhere are we going to get that . Its , uh, i dont know. Um, its, uh, i dont know. Um, its, uh, i dont know. Its unclear , isnt it . I its unclear, isnt it . I dont think they know. Yeah. I mean, what kind of idea is this . I mean, its a magic magic money tree idea. I mean, its a magic magic money treeadea. I mean, its a magic magic money treea typical left wing thing. A typical left wing thing. Sorry. Yeah i mean, its these these. This labour is these. This labour is unbelievable. They would propose unbelievable. They would propose Something Like this because they just think that money comes out of the air, that they can just. But this is a tory peer whos saying this. Oh, is it a tory peen yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. £10,000 out of taxpayers cash. Oh my bad. But joe, my understanding is that hes saying, well, look, this generation is going to be the the the worst off. Yeah. The generation millennials generation above the millennials are pretty well. You are going to do pretty well. You know the older millennials because to all because theyre going to get all this boomers. This money from the boomers. Yeah. And this have yeah. And then this have nothing. Is it just nothing. Yeah. So is it just a matter redistributing matter of redistributing wealth because was 30 i because you know if i was 30 i would love ten grand. Wouldnt this i wouldnt have to do this show with lewis. Show with lewis. Wouldnt . Right. Exactly. Who wouldnt . Right. Exactly. But do they mean it . But i mean, why do they mean it . That be quite expensive. That would be quite expensive. I imagine theres quite a lot of 30 olds. Yeah, lets say 30 year olds. Yeah, lets say there them. There are 100,000 of them. Thats thats like billions. Seems like a silly yeah. It seems like a silly suggestion know suggestion to me because we know its going to happen anyway. Its not going to happen anyway. Were going to move on the were going to move on to the sunday telegraph. Hate preachers, favourite subject . Preachers. Well, with oh hate preachers. Well, with the um. Hate the story go. Sorry um. Hate preachers happened preachers. Whats happened is. Is that rishi sunak gave that speech yesterday and, uh. And he was saying that there was that weve got do something about weve got to do something about the and, um, the horrible situation and, um, and, uh, he didnt say, really say anything. Say anything. I thought it was an old speech. I i thought it was an old speech. I mean, he really there were no policies, no explicit policies, sort of some policies, just sort of some vague yeah about policies, just sort of some vaguewe yeah about policies, just sort of some vaguewe to yeah about policies, just sort of some vaguewe to do. 1h about policies, just sort of some vaguewe to do. Um, out policies, just sort of some vaguewe to do. Um, but but what we need to do. Um, but but now were getting some sense here. Hate preachers are going to the home office is to be barred. The home office is going to them out. Going to kick them out. Thats about time. Yeah, and thats about time. What it is, is dont know if what it is, is i dont know if theyre going them out, theyre going to kick them out, but going be blocked. But theyre going to be blocked. I think they said they were but theyre going to be blocked. I thinit01ey said they were but theyre going to be blocked. I thinito be said they were but theyre going to be blocked. I thinito be blocked. R were but theyre going to be blocked. I thinito be blocked. There but theyre going to be blocked. I thinito be blocked. The truth going to be blocked. The truth is, i know, the is, from what i know, the iranians and the saudis were spending iranians and the saudis were spendirto subsidise these money to subsidise these preachers. They were flying in preachers. They were flying in preachers countries preachers from other countries to teach, to be in the mosque , to teach, to be in the mosque, to teach, to be in the mosque, to be imams in the mosque. Yeah. And i because i think that and i think because i think that regular british imams are not quite as virulent as the imported ones. So. Okay, so no, i think thats absolutely right there. There has been evidence of saudi funded extremism in the country. So what do we do then about that, joe . I mean, there is also a free speech issue. Isnt there a free speech issue. Isnt there a that we shouldnt a little bit that we shouldnt be kicking out just be maybe kicking people out just because extreme views . Um, well , i views . Um, well, i think they the government have a, a branch where they track people , dont where they track people, dont they . They. Yeah. Prevent they. Yeah. They kind of look into what theyre doing. And if its a major threat, you know, then then they should be. Well, i mean, certainly if its a case that they are looking to block people from coming extremists from coming in, extremists from overseas, strikes me overseas, that strikes me as a no brainer. I mean , of course no brainer. I mean, of course they have the right to be they dont have the right to be here theyre not already here because theyre not already here. My only reservation would be apply this stringently be if we apply this stringently and weve get rid of and say, weve got to get rid of anyone says something offensive. Thats one ahead. No, thats one step ahead. But theyre saying but i think what theyre saying is, totally justified is, i think totally justified is anybody citizen this anybody whos a citizen of this country has right to complain country has a right to complain and to and to give speeches and has free as free speech. But but a person from a foreign country , a person from a foreign country, lets just say me, i should have no right to have unless im a citizen. And if i want to Say Something, i should become a citizen. Are you not a citizen by i dont want to say what by now . I dont want to say what my. Dont you mind your own my. Why dont you mind your own business . Because theres somebody not somebody out there. But its not about live here, about free. If you live here, youve got free but why . Youve got free speech. But why . Its like. Its like. Its like its like. Its like. Its like a council flat. If youre a if youre a citizen of this country, you give you a council flat. If youre not okay. Okay. Well, im going to cut louis off halfway a louis off halfway through a sentence. Just for the of sentence. Just for the hell of it. Weve it halfway it. Uh, weve made it halfway through the show. Stay as it. Uh, weve made it halfway thr welcome back to headliners. Your first look at sundays newspaper. Were going to kick off this. Were going to kick off this section with the telegraph. And joe, are applying to the bbc joe, you are applying to the bbc any time soon. Okay. So this is, uh, bbc accused of hiring candidates based group think and values based on group think and values interview questions. The bbc has been accused of selecting job applicants based on their lifestyle choices and values. After it emerged that interviewees for some senior roles are invited to describe their ideal activities. Well, i guess you do that in interviews, dont you . Ask people what their interests are, but from the sound of things. So Robert Aitken, aitken has said aitken, Robert Aitken has said that this is quite sinister because basically because theyre basically fishing your fishing to find out whether your left left wing, right wing, you know , what sort of things do you know, what sort of things do you do . You think theres do . Do you think theres any merit that . Merit in that . Well, say yeah, well, they say a spokesman many of these spokesman said many of these questions are warm ups or icebreaker hours, which are used at the start interviews. At the start of interviews. They dont really so then they dont really count. So then they dont really count. Youre youre count. Like youre not youre not the job on the not going to get the job on the bafis not going to get the job on the basis of whether prefer basis of whether you prefer badminton basis of whether you prefer bacsupposedly , supposedly. Now count. You think its sinister . I could tell you what it is. It is two questions. It is sinister. It it is two questions. It is sinister. It its the bbc. Its the you love the bbc. Theyre an evil organisation. And the reason thats number one, you dont question like, what dont ask a question like, what are you interested in without using for a certain thing . Using it for a certain thing . Well, if you say fox well, i mean, if you say fox hunting, instance, they hunting, for instance, they might this persons hunting, for instance, they mbitt this persons hunting, for instance, they mbit of this persons hunting, for instance, they mbit of a this persons hunting, for instance, they mbit of a tory, this persons hunting, for instance, they mbit of a tory, right . S persons a bit of a tory, right . We dont want him. We dont want him. Say i like, you but if you say i like, you know, know. Know, i dont know. Chasing down fox hunts i like chasing down fox hunts. They might want you. They might they might want you more you think really but do you think really thats it is . I mean, thats what it is . I mean, i mean also who cares . I mean, the bbc is so sort of mired in groupthink anyway i think groupthink anyway that i think thats happen or thats going to happen more or less automatically, isnt it . It will, but just going to will, but its just going to make for them do make it easier for them to do it. Think should be based on i think it should be based on youn i think it should be based on your, um, ability to do the job, not ive really got into not like ive really got into potholing , um, recently. Potholing, um, recently. Potholing. Yeah. Potholing. Yeah yeah. What its like going out in the street and fixing the holes and isnt it . And what is pothole, isnt it . Through caves and things. Its going down like in the ground. Im like, im really ground. And im like, im really fascinated by, that film fascinated by, like, that film the descent. Fascinated by, like, that film the is escent. Fascinated by, like, that film the is esce|called thats is that called par thats full and things. So full of demons and things. So theres when you it. I havent done it yet, but im very interested in it. But i think its quite an odd thing to do, isnt it . Yeah. And if said in an and if you said that in an interview the bbc, they might. Tight spaces. Well, exactly. Tight spaces. Well, exactly. People might think i mean the people might think mistrust want mistrust you. Why would you want to yeah. Right. Its a very posh thing. Even i havent heard of it. No, but its a very posh thing. Even i hathe t heard of it. No, but its a very posh thing. Even i hathe maind of it. No, but its a very posh thing. Even i hathe main question. O, but its a very posh thing. Even i hathe main question. Canrt its a very posh thing. Even i hathe main question. Can i but the main question. Can i interrupt ask what the interrupt and just ask what the main the main question. Why main what the main question. Why do care about what the bbc do we care about what the bbc does . Its interview because louis, national, its louis, its the national, its the broadcast. Its the the national broadcast. Its the state right. State propaganda network. Right. Thats because each thats why we care. Because each one because its the one one of us. Because its the one thing dont agree with you. Thing i dont agree with you. Do a good job i think the bbc do a good job of uh, showing of political, uh, of showing both sides of the political story. I think do story. I dont think they do a good it comes to issues good job when it comes to issues relating the war. Relating to the culture war. I think theyre very much firmly on because you yourself think theyre very much firmly on embedded cause you yourself think theyre very much firmly on embedded inuse you yourself think theyre very much firmly on embedded in the you yourself think theyre very much firmly on embedded in the bbc. Ourself are embedded in the bbc. You are a mr. Bbc guy who just happened to be working at this place. Unbelievable this crazy place. Unbelievable yeah. Thats it yeah. Thats why thats why it is people we care about the bbc because we give them £159, soon to be £169 a year. Yes i guarantee you, if we didnt have to pay for those people, theres no story like this going on. Is netflix doing . Can i just clarify . I dont actually work for the bbc. I work for this channel. But you are a mole or something. What . Youre but you are a mole or sonathing. What . Youre but you are a mole or sona mole what . Youre but you are a mole or sona mole , what . Youre but you are a mole or sona mole , but what . Youre but you are a mole or sona mole , but youre hat . Youre but you are a mole or sona mole , but youre quality. |re not a mole, but youre quality. And someday theyll take you on board. Me . Will never give. Board. Me . They will never give. They never let work on the bbc. Thats. Yeah, yeah , well, thats. Yeah, yeah, well, they would be wise. Okay , moving on to the sunday okay, moving on to the sunday mirror whats about mirror now, whats this about keith . Joe . Well, its not keith lemon . Joe . Well, its not keith lemon . Joe . Well, its not keith is it . Thats the keith lemon is it . Thats the character. Its the. Its the guy who plays keith lemon, which is francis. Is Leigh Francis. Francis is reboot of so Leigh Francis is reboot of bo selecta , axed after he films bo selecta, axed after he films first episode. Okay. Well of a new series, okay. Well of a new series, presumably. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Presumably. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So what was the. This was an old series though, back in 2002. I think he was doing both. Yeah. Theres another, theres another guy called chris lilly. Hes an australian guy who made a comedy show called Summer Heights high. And i think theres, you know , um, where theres, you know, um, where theyre blacking up. Yes and theres also , um , like certain theres also, um, like certain language about women, really super derogatory. Renee. Yeah, super derogatory. Renee. Yeah, its hilarious though. And chris its hilarious though. And chris is really good. I think i know, no. Yeah, i, i just think those things arent right now. Like you , theyre not. Right. So, so. You, theyre not. Right. So, so. And you think thats what moved on because in bo selecta he plays a number of black characters. So he plays craig david plays michael jackson, famously. Yeah. And you think in the intervening 20 years, comedy has that that has changed to that degree that thats just a no go. You could be more clever you could just be more clever. Could be more smart. What. You could be more smart. What do dont have to do you think . You dont have to reduce down to that reduce yourself down to that because it hurts. And offends. It. It hurts people. Louis, you hurt people in your comedy. I have, and ive done. Ive done bad things 30 years ago that i was told to do. And now, that i was told to do. And now, you know, you regret doing it. I saw some of the things that keith lemon did. I didnt watch it at time, but there i can it at the time, but there i can see that its basically making fun of people. And day, fun of people. And in this day, and we should be you should be able to make fun anybody you able to make fun of anybody you want fun of, but you cant. I mean, it was it was so absurd, wasnt it . It these absurd, wasnt it . It was these plastic. I didnt actually really watch it. I saw the occasional of it. Occasional glimpse of it. And theres sort plastic theres these sort of plastic mask but mask masks of celebrities. But of suppose youre of course, i suppose if youre playing of an ethnic playing a celebrity of an ethnic minority, it would minority, then it would have to look celebrity to look like the celebrity to a degree, right . Though its degree, right . Even though its a grotesque. Think also though, is yeah. I think also though, is it Little Britain . Um, it little, Little Britain . Um, ive name. Ive forgotten his name. Um, walliams. Um, david walliams. Um, david walliams. The other, the other no, the other, the other guy, matt lucas. And he has said, you know, playing, you know bubbles the, you the black lady you know, the black lady that he, know, said i wouldnt he, you know, he said i wouldnt do because things have do that now because things have changed but is that sufficient . I mean, thing i mean, the thing is, everyones offended by different things, arent they. No, i it being well, no, i is it being offended just saying, offended or is it just saying, do you what . Um, i dont do you know what . Um, i dont need to i things have evolved. Need to i things have evolved. Things have evolved. I mean , things have evolved. I mean, there was that there was like there was that there was like the black and white minstrels. I mean, things have evolved. We dont have to that anymore. Dont have to do that anymore. Just interested that, im just interested in that, because sometimes people will say about other forms of say that about other forms of jokes, that there is still a dispute about. I think thats right. I think right. Like, i dont think i know anyone would that know anyone who would think that the minstrels the black and white minstrels are todays okay, the black and white minstrels are not todays okay, the black and white minstrels are not modern ays okay, the black and white minstrels are not modern era . Okay, and why not modern era . Why not . Because, yeah, i think that there think they would say that there is caricature and is a racist caricature and it would know, would hurt. I dont think thats so much the concern, but but the concern, i think. But but but what if when you get these sort of, uh, despite suits over, is offensive . Some is that joke offensive . Some people say certain people would say certain jokes by shouldnt by jemmy carr shouldnt be allowed would allowed and other people would say, carr just dont say, see, jemmy carr just dont go and see him then. Think things, you but i think some things, you know, bring it close know, or to bring it close to home, jokes louis home, some jokes by Louis Shaffer shouldnt allowed. Shaffer shouldnt be allowed. At what point and you know, at what point i mean, of jokes, some mean, some of yourjokes, some of are really, really of his jokes are really, really offensive. Joking. Yeah but of his jokes are really, really offe said�. Joking. Yeah but of his jokes are really, really offe said whatjoking. Yeah but of his jokes are really, really offe said what you1g. Yeah but of his jokes are really, really offe said what you saidzah but of his jokes are really, really offe said what you said. |h but you said what you said. I love you, too. But, um, its a difficult question. Its a difficult question. I think at the of the day, um, its. The end of the day, um, its. You should be able to make fun of , of anybody, but you should be able to make fun of, of anybody, but sometimes when you make fun of some people , they get very angry. And other people get angry on their behalf. Well, what about the principle of it . The principle . What saying is there are what are you saying is there are certain that we now certain things that we all now have a consensus right . Certain things that we all now havcan consensus right . Certain things that we all now havcanconseii;us right . Certain things that we all now havcanconseii just right . Certain things that we all now havcanconseii just say right . Certain things that we all now havcanconseii just say likeiht . Certain things that we all now havcanconseii just say like one can i can i just say like one of my of my favourite shows of my two of my favourite shows are damp and and are rising damp and steptoe and son . And whenever they come son . Yes. And whenever they come on, say, know, so on, it will say, you know, so theres language in here, theres some language in here, you know, things have changed. Yeah. So you could, you could make you wouldnt make a sitcom, but you wouldnt have it now. But have those things in it now. But you could watch those knowing have those things in it now. But you theyi watch those knowing have those things in it now. But you theyi watcmadee knowing have those things in it now. But you theyi watcmadee ka wing have those things in it now. But you theyi watcmadee ka time that they were made at a time when had different sensibilities. Okay. Got you. All right. Lets the sunday lets move on to the sunday telegraph gender gap. Lets move on to the sunday telegr. Got gender gap. Lets move on to the sunday telegr. Got this gender gap. Lets move on to the sunday telegr. Got this one . Gender gap. Whos got this one . This one. And this is i have this one. And this is m m 15 and m 16. I have this one. And this is m m 15 and m16. Pay female spies less than men as gender pay gap spies less than men as gender pay gap widens. Spies less than men as gender pay gap widens. Okay, okay. That pay gap widens. Okay, okay. That was a joke. I was making a joke. Its mi5, mi6 , mi6. But it its mi5, mi6, mi6. But it always looks like m 15. It always looks like m 15. It always looks like m, as in the gun. Yeah. Okay it looks like. Well, now that weve established the joke , the established the joke, the premise of the joke. Yeah. And it was not a funny joke. And i told. I told, uh uh uh, beautiful. Whats your uh, beautiful. Uh, whats your name . Beautiful joe, name . I told beautiful joe, someone known for years someone youve known for years but cant remember name. But cant remember her name. I know panicking and i told her know a panicking and i told her and didnt laugh either, and she didnt laugh either, i shouldnt have. Whats the story, louis . Shouldnt have. The|ts the story, louis . Shouldnt have. The storye story, louis . Shouldnt have. The story is. Tory, louis . Shouldnt have. The story is. Isy, louis . Shouldnt have. The story is. Is that uis . Shouldnt have. The story is. Is that spy guys male and female. Spies guys are male and female. Spies are paid less money. The male ones are paid more than the than the female ones. Black and white spies. The black ones are paid less than the white ones. Less than the white ones. Okay, lets just clarify that because thats actually illegal. Thats been illegal for about five decades. That cant be five decades. So that cant be the case. Whats happening is the case. Whats happening is the pay women versus the average pay of women versus men is different because there are more men in the higher paying are more men in the higher paying roles than there are women. Question women. Yeah. So the question then whether m15 is then is not about whether m15 is paying then is not about whether m15 is paying people differently for the same job. Question is the same job. The question is why getting promoted why are men getting promoted more women . Right. More than women . Right. Theyd be more more than women . Right. Them theyd be more more than women . Right. Them in theyd be more more than women . Right. Them in the theyd be more more than women . Right. Them in the country. Yd be more more than women . Right. Them in the country. Theyrefore of them in the country. Theyre older working. Older men who are still working. What do . Kill the what should we do . Kill the older that this older people . The fact that this is even lewis. Well, im saying we do it. The fact we shouldnt do it. The fact that is a this that this is a this is supposedly a news kelsey supposedly a news story. Kelsey surprise. This in any surprise. This this in any single every company probably here at, uh, at gb news. Its. Well, maybe not here, but you get paid the least. Yes. Yes. The least. I do get paid the least. And i wanted to address it with. No. Look, you know, okay, you know, what other choice you know, what other choice do you have, joe . Thoughts . Um, undervalued. Um, undervalued. Think theyre they and i think theyre they are undervalued and says within undervalued. And it says within m 15 and m 16 women are employed as intelligence officers. Agent handlers and surveillance operators. Some of the most operators. Some of the most important roles in front line intelligence work. So are they undervalued . So why are they undervalued . So why are they undervalued . Well, because theyre not getting the are they . Getting paid the same, are they . Mean theyre no. Oh, you mean theyre literally undervalued. Literally being undervalued. But why . Getting why . Why are they not getting paid same . Do you think paid the same . Do you think theres an endemic problem paid the same . Do you think theresm15,endemic problem paid the same . Do you think theresm15, endem you oblem paid the same . Do you think theresm15,endem you think within m15, or do you think theres within within m15, or do you think theres network . Within the spy network . Think historically. Because i think historically. Because i think historically. Its more about so its more about historically men have gotten paid more than women. Like thats not thats like a tautology what tautology or something. What does that mean . Well, you know, what tautology . Whatever what are you tautology . Whatever it against it is, where you play it against itself, it the is because it is, where you play it against itsis, it the is because it is, where you play it against itsis, lit the is because it is, where you play it against itsis, i think1e is because it is, where you play it against itsis, i think i is because it is, where you play it against itsis, i think i think because it is, i think i think because women why am i being paid so little here . Because i dont fight for it, i dont walk, i should walk out right now because its affecting my performance. Im getting bitter and bitter and bitter bitterer and bitter and bitter bitterer and i think thats the thing with women. They dont fight for it. They need to fight for it. Honestly well, there have been people whove made this point fighting for it. for it. Not enough. Well there are some studies that suggested some studies that have suggested that less predisposed that women are less predisposed to be how you put it bullish to be how can you put it bullish and and want a pay and go and say, i want a pay rise, deserve a pay rise, rise, i deserve a pay rise, whereas are more likely to whereas men are more likely to do more you do do that. And the more you do that, likely are to that, the more likely you are to get you have to be a get it. But you have to be a bit, i think, i think, uh, young girls be taught how to, girls should be taught how to, you into their, uh, you know, step into their, uh, agency. Agency. Yeah. But but i dont yeah. And but but i dont know, are they. I dont have children, so i dont know. You are the kind of well, you are the kind of person whos so stroppy that you are. Person are. You are the kind of person who would ask for more money, but so many women and lewis but but so many women and Lewis Schaefer dont. Im gonna have to let you come back on that, joe. He just. He just called you stroppy. He says stroppy. I say direct. There we go. There we go. I meant it in a nice way. Stroppy is that an insult in this country . I dont speak this language. Absolutely is. With his theres lewis with his excuses. Move excuses. Were going to move into break just one into the break now. Just one section go. Do stay tuned. Section to go. Do stay tuned. Were talking about were going to be talking about how can get you how sleep maths can get you the perfect whatever perfect nights sleep. Whatever that a space has that is how a new space race has begun. A guinea pig who begun. And a guinea pig who becomes a father to 400. See you in a minute welcome back to headliners. Your first look at sundays newspapers. Were going to begin newspapers. Were going to begin this final section with the express revelations about meghan markle. E w e this is really louis. Yeah, this is really big news. Meghan markle seriously , seriously considered seriously, seriously considered applying to popular reality show before she fell. Before she was fell in love with prince harry, the show was the bachelor. Its called the bachelor. Its a dating show in america. Ive never seen it, but it was like, i guess she going be one i guess she was going to be one of contestants something. Of the contestants or something. That . I why couldnt she do that . I mean, doing deal or no mean, she was doing deal or no deal because she it was deal because she felt it was cheesy being used cheesy and she was being used for her looks and not her intellect, thats she intellect, and thats why she didnt. Didnt want to do it. This isnt. Didnt want to do it. But. Isnt. Didnt want to do it. But she� t. Didnt want to do it. But she did deal or no deal where she was effectively just like box did. Im like opening a box she did. Im in , right . Like opening a box she did. Im in she , right . Like opening a box she did. Im in she didnt , right . Like opening a box she did. Im in she didnt like , right . Like opening a box she did. Im in she didnt like theight . Like opening a box she did. Im in she didnt like the way like opening a box she did. Im in she didnt like the way she she didnt like the way she felt, right . Felt, according felt, right . She felt, according to her. But so she went off and found a prince instead. The big news is she authorised the producer of the bachelor to give out the information because she thinks its going to humanise her in some way. Make her. I dont know what, how its going to. Oh, youre saying this is a pr thing . A human. She is a human. She is a human. She is a human. She but humanise her. Yes. She but humanise her. Yes. She but humanise her. Is human. She is a human. She is a human. Because remember this channel gb all meghan and harry. Gb news is all meghan and harry. I renee i barely ever talk about meghan or harry. You do, but everybody else does. Its on everybody. You do, but everybody else doejoe,� s on everybody. You do, but everybody else doejoe,� s on do rybody. You do, but everybody else doejoe,� s on do you dy. You do, but everybody else doejoe,� s on do you think . Yeah, you do, but everybody else dthink. � s on do you think . Yeah, you do, but everybody else dthink shes do you think . Yeah, you do, but everybody else dthink shes a 0 you think . Yeah, you do, but everybody else dthink shes a go ou think . Yeah, i think shes a go getter. You know whats wrong with being wanting get a tv being wanting to get on a tv show and get exposure and you know , to whatever the know, to climb whatever the greasy ladder. Exactly. If louis could get on the bachelor, he would do it in a heartbeat. It is said, please ask me. But why can i ask . Can ask but why can i ask . Can i ask joe, got move on, louis. Joe, you got to move on, louis. Right. This is from the mail on a story about on sunday. Its a story about deportation bad behaviour. Deportation for bad behaviour. Louis should be worried again. This f. W. F. Well, this is good news. Im on guy was on my. This guy who was in amman. In france since amman. He lived in france since he was 12, and now hes 52. And he was 12, and now hes 52. And he french flag he called the french flag satanic. The french satanic. And the French Police marched with eight marched in there with eight hours. Out the hours. He was kicked out of the country. Yeah. Telling me now youre not telling me thats speech thats a freedom of speech violation because of course it is. It is is. It is not. It is not. Yeah, he called the french flag satanic. Yeah, okay. Thats flag satanic. Yeah, okay. Thats unpleasant. If youre a patriot. But do it in but hes allowed to do it in a free country. No , no, no, because he was no, no, no, because he was not a citizen of the country. He was there for 50 years. He that doesnt him a citizen of doesnt make him a citizen of the he wasnt a citizen the country. He wasnt a citizen of the country. And so my theory is, going to is, and this is im going to push if youre a citizen push this is if youre a citizen of the united or of of the United Kingdom or of france, the rights as france, you have the rights as a citizen. So what are you saying . Whos that anyone whos a non citizen whos lived here for four Say Something non citizen whos lived here for four offensive Say Something non citizen whos lived here for four offensive and something non citizen whos lived here for four offensive and youd� thing slightly offensive and youd kick them out . Not a thats not well, thats not a thats not slightly offensive. Thats considered really offensive. Consider i dont consider it offensive. Joe. Yeah. Offensive. Go on joe. Yeah. Has a family and he this guy has a family and he has so hes being has a business. So hes being contributing. To the country, contributing. Uh to the country, hasnt he . Hes been paying in and has some views. Hasnt he . Hes been paying in and has some views. And and he has some views. And again, going back to that thing that we i think that you have to monitor individual. Are they monitor an individual. Are they a threat . Do you know what i mean . I think calling a flag satanic isnt necessarily i agree, if theres that we theres other things that we dont know about, fine. If there are things. Yeah fine. Are other things. Yeah fine. There arent, this in are other things. Yeah fine. Itself there arent, this in are other things. Yeah fine. Itself is here arent, this in are other things. Yeah fine. Itself is note arent, this in are other things. Yeah fine. Itself is not enough. This in of itself is not enough. Was, there he was there was, there was, he was got this. Got to do this. He was saying he was he was he was saying he was saying horrible things about the country saying horrible things about the couand weve another story. And weve got another story. The becomes father the guinea pig becomes a father to louis very quickly. To 400. Louis very quickly. Is that me yes is that me again . Yes is that me again . Yes im overworked here. Pay rise, i dont know rise, pay rise. I dont know where where i here, but there where where i am here, but there was guinea, guinea pig up in was a guinea, a guinea pig up in up in hatton Adventure World in warwickshire. Thats like your neck of the woods. Warwickshire . Yeah. Yeah. Up. And yeah. Warwickshire yeah. Up. And his name was randy, which is funny because he was very randy and had 400 kids. He broke and he had 400 kids. He broke into the pen, he broke into the pen. Pen. Oh. So it was non consensual. This isnt good. Think all animal sex well, i think all animal sex is not good. Say, i dont think they sit there knocking their they sit there knocking on their shoulder and say, hey, can i gets on my nerves. It says he is now, rejoined his friends. Hes his male friends. Clearly hes got bragging to do. Got a lot of bragging to do. For goodness sake, guinea oh, for goodness sake, guinea pig oh, for goodness sake, guinea pig you heard it here pig bravado. You heard it here first. Well, look, the show is nearly. Lets have another nearly over. Lets have another quick look at sundays front pages. Sunday times is pages. So the sunday times is leading with chancellor last leading with chancellor in last ditch fight to cut tax by £0. 02. The observer runs with the same story. Will story. Their tax cuts will backfire, economists warn. Backfire, Top Economists warn. Hunt cut tax or hunt and the express cut tax or lose grey vote. The sunday mirror leading with the Prince Andrew story. Hes facing fresh Court Bombshell and the telegraph hunt goes to war on immoral whitehall waste. The daily star has. My name is megan. Im a mayo holic. Thanks ever so much forjoining us. Ever so much for joining us. Thank you to my guests, Lewis Schaefer and joe romero. Steve n allen will be here tomorrow with paul cox and josh howie. And by paul cox and josh howie. And by the way, if youre watching the repeat a. M. The way, if youre watching the repeat am. Right now, then repeat at 5 am. Right now, then please tuned because please stay tuned because its time breakfast. I made it time for breakfast. I made it away. Away. Looks like things are heating up. Up. Boxt boilers sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hello there and Greg Dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather. Its going to be quite chilly tonight. Some frost and fog and some icy stretches around. But sunday should be dner around. But sunday should be drier and brighter. We currently have low pressure in charge of our weather, but it does start to away sunday, to move away through sunday, allowing a day before then allowing a dry day before then further windy weather further wet and windy weather spreads the west for spreads in from the west for monday. For evening time we monday. For this evening time we do have outbreaks of showery rain , sleet and some hill snow rain, sleet and some hill snow across Northern England spreading parts spreading into scotland, parts of Northern Ireland and some western fringes of wales too. Elsewhere, see some clear elsewhere, well see some clear spells temperatures drop spells and as temperatures drop overnight, well see some mist and fog patches forming, some icy stretches to temperatures in the countryside 2 to 5 celsius. So could be some tricky travelling conditions across central southern parts of england. First thing dense fog patches, but they slowly lift and break and then for most its and break and then for most its a bright and cheery day. Plenty of sunny spells , a scattering of of sunny spells, a scattering of showers western parts of showers across western parts of the uk, and this weather front close to the east could give some rain. Along the east some patchy rain. Along the east coast. Temperatures up a little bit to saturday, a bit bit compared to saturday, a bit more brightness it will more brightness around it will just feel a little less cold then into monday. This weather system starts to move into western areas, bringing some outbreaks rain and outbreaks of heavy rain and brisk winds to elsewhere. Cold, brisk winds to elsewhere. Cold, frosty start, but then plenty of sunshine across the north and east through the day and temperatures a little higher once remains mixed. Once more. It remains mixed. 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What goes on inside a real Detective Agency as britain fallen into the hands of extremists , ill be asking of extremists, ill be asking britains best known political double act, the hamiltons, plus , double act, the hamiltons, plus, following rumours that hes sent flirty messages to a colleague , flirty messages to a colleague, ill ask neil and christine is spicy girl Geri Halliwell right to stand by her man and he might take a ten. Prince harry has lost his case against the home office for Royal Protection when hes in the uk. Ill office for Royal Protection when hes in the uk. Ill be office for Royal Protection when hes in the uk. Ill be giving my verdict on whether the prodigal prince should have the same security as his brother william. Two hours of big william. Two hours of big opinion, big debate and big entertainment. It is saturday night. Youve worked hard all week, so you want to relax now . 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