Political adviser. Next. For a lot more this morning, but we really want to hear your views on this nhs fitness app. Im calling it a fitness app. That sounds quite sort of benevolent. So it basically logs how many steps youve done, sends data back in real time to the government. I mean, youre going government. I mean, youre going to be the first person to download arent you, bev . Download that, arent you, bev . No about big no i mean, talk about big brother watching. Brother is watching. We this was coming down we said this was coming down the line. Sunak and jeremy the line. Rishi sunak and jeremy hunt get very excited about i, i dont know whether you saw how many times they mentioned the word app the budget, jeremy word app in the budget, jeremy hunt, know, an app is hunt, you know, an app is a solution to everything. Is it the well, of the plans well, some of the plans include doctors gps, include a doctors gps, receptionist you an app, receptionist calling you an app, calling you a robot discuss calling you a robot to discuss your medical problems. I mean , i your medical problems. I mean, i think last person i want to think the last person i want to be discussing my medical problems a is a robot or problems with is a is a robot or ai machine, but let us know what you maybe wrong. Gb yeah, maybe were wrong. Gb views news. Com maybe views at gb news. Com maybe were being too cynical. Were just being too cynical. First though. Latest first though. The very latest news wenzler. News with sophia wenzler. Thanks, bev. Good morning. Im sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. Your headlines at 930. Newsroom. Your headlines at 930. Protesters are set to demonstrate against the governments decision to house 2000 Asylum Seekers at raf scampton. It comes one year on scampton. 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Youre normally here on a friday, arent you, ben . Yeah. Thank you forjoining me. Thank you for joining me. Thank you for joining me. Oh, its my absolute pleasure on International Womens day. No. Exactly. Yeah. No. Exactly. Yeah. No. Exactly. I had a i had yeah. No. Exactly. Ihada|hada yeah. No. Exactly. I had a i had a lovely time in whitehaven this thank in whitehaven this week. Thank you to the people of you so much to the people of cumbria who had news up there cumbria who had gb news up there and gave us an amazing welcome. Now, is finally going now, the nhs is finally is going to its going to to save your life. Its going to do by monitoring phone activity. Yeah. Yeah. What could go wrong. What could go wrong. So this is the idea you all have heard in the budget. Jeremy hunt talks about this amazing like is to save Like Technology is going to save the app can the nhs. So this app you can download your phone. Download it onto your phone. Its monitor your step its going to monitor your step counts. Its part of a government plan to tackle unhealthy lifestyles get unhealthy lifestyles and get people back work. People back to work. My only concern about this so my only concern about this is 20 years when is what happens in 20 years when we another pandemic and the we have another pandemic and the government wants everyone vaccinated. Three years. Good yeah three years. Good luck. Yeah three years. Good luck. Yeah sooner reckon . Basically, sooner you reckon . Basically, the is from the civil the fear is from the Civil Liberties camp is that we will go down the route. Something akin to china, where they have a social credit system. Isnt social credit system. This isnt some conspiracy, by way. Some conspiracy, by the way. This in now, if this happens in china. Now, if you a parking ticket or you you get a parking ticket or you criticise the ccp or youre a bad neighbour, whatever your social score goes down, social credit score goes down, youre restricted from, youre then restricted from, say, city say, travelling from city to city financial say, travelling from city to city so financial say, travelling from city to city so this financial say, travelling from city to city so this proposal from services. So this proposal from victoria atkins, the health secretary, seems fine on the surface. You know, encouraging people to take steps and to eat well and be healthier. But the only concern is from Civil Liberties camps is where does this lead to . Does it open the doorin this lead to . Does it open the door in 510 . I think maybe a bit longer. 20 years to something more sinister. About i agree with its also about i agree with everything you said there, but its also and i think people need to just be aware of whats happening because the government arent talking about the longer tum this of tum implications of this kind of paradigm shift that were experiencing moment, but experiencing at the moment, but its your personal its wheres your personal responsibility in this . Like if, if at the moment were not walking enough because walking enough steps because were know, its were i dont know, its sometimes nicer to just sometimes its nicer to just take a taxi or drive or whatever. Are we actually going to change our behaviour because we think the nhs is going to be a bit cross with us if we dont walk that relationship between the state and the individual infantilising people. So that youre being watched all the time and forgetting Everything Else, its just, you know, how much do you want to be nannied by the state . Exactly. Its actually not that ive said this before and youre to lambast me now youre going to lambast me now on emails again. Ill it on the emails again. Ill say it again, though, because i believe it. Not that hard be fit it. Its not that hard to be fit and lose weight. Get and to lose weight. Just get some a calorie some steps in eating a calorie deficit, a few weights if deficit, lift a few weights if you can. And for most people, i understand there are some Health Implications for some people, but just a matter but for most its just a matter of the right things and of doing the right things and consistently and its your data, its your life. Thats bothers me. The thats what bothers me. The health secretary, victoria atkins, that the Service Health secretary, victoria atkins,make that the Service Health secretary, victoria atkins,make that of; Service Health secretary, victoria atkins,make that of; seiwhat you would make use of the what you call wealth of data call the wealth of data to prevent serious illness. And she prevent serious illness. And she said its the front door to prevention to boost economic prevention and to boost Economic Growth itself growth data in and of itself will not change human behaviour. I think they are completely deluded at the idea that if youve suddenly feel that your doctor knows your activity, imagine what that gp surgery appointment is going to look like when you go and you sit down and you need to have an empathic, sympathetic relationship with your doctor and they go, well, i looked at your data , mrs. Turner, and you your data, mrs. Turner, and you only walked steps last. But only walked 500 steps last. But what happens if you leave your phone with your kid and theyre running it all day, running around with it all day, racking up 30,000 steps, the racking up 30,000 steps, and the doctor that youre doctor thinks that youre really active in actual fact, youve been sofa eating been sitting on the sofa eating doritos. Controversial, doritos. Yeah, controversial, but frankly, as but not, frankly, as controversial should be. Controversial as it should be. What think . What do you think . Vaiews gbnews. Com. Maybe you disagree with us. Maybe this would everything. Would change everything. A fresh blow to rishi now, in a fresh blow to rishi sunak, gb news peoples poll sunak, the gb news peoples poll has that nearly half plan has found that nearly half plan to labour at the next to vote for labour at the next election, 18 election, compared to just 18 planning tory, though planning to vote tory, though most those polled dont trust most of those polled dont trust either party. Most of those polled dont trust eitiwithirty. Most of those polled dont trust eitiwith the economy and most with the economy and most brits seem to be running out of patience as 37 want an election called as soon as possible. Called as soon as possible. Well, rishi sunak has now refused to rule out a may general election. So should he just get it over with . And yeah, go to the polls. Well, joining us now in the studio is the director of jl partners and the best pollster in the business at scarlett mccgwire, scarlett. Its the mccgwire, scarlett. Its the poll were now. Were poll season were in now. Were going blindsided by polls, going to be blindsided by polls, arent everywhere we look, arent we . Everywhere we look, but they are painting a very bleak not just for the bleak picture, not just for the conservatives, but for both labour the conservatives labour and the conservatives now. I mean, i think we now. Yeah. I mean, i think we still have sort of still have to sort of acknowledge that you acknowledge that labour, you know, ahead know, 20 points plus ahead in the polls. Know, 20 points plus ahead in the liolls. Know, 20 points plus ahead in thei think everything is i think everything is pointing towards a labour majority election. Majority at the next election. That quite amazing that is quite an amazing turnaround given their turnaround from them given their result however, i do result in 2019. However, i do think one thing that that poll flagged which is something flagged up, which is something that sort seeing that were sort of seeing increasingly, of increasingly, is this none of the above. So when asked increasingly, is this none of the ionee. So when asked increasingly, is this none of the tone was when asked increasingly, is this none of the tone was about when asked increasingly, is this none of the tone was about handling ed increasingly, is this none of the tone was about handling the that one was about handling the economy, seen on who economy, but weve seen on who would the best would make the best Prime Minister actually, know, minister actually, you know, more people for none of more more people go for none of the above than keir starmer or rishi despite the fact rishi sunak, despite the fact that starmer now has lead that keir starmer now has a lead on rishi on these on rishi sunak on most of these things, complete things, why is there complete disillusionment, then, with the political voters . Political class from voters . Why, know, its why, i dont know, its something hear a lot. We hear something we hear a lot. We hear that there is this political disillusionment, i think partly its at least. Its the people, at least. People to us they feel people say to us that they feel like politicians have made lots of promises. They then havent kept this is pattern kept saying, this is a pattern thats gone the last few thats gone in the last few years. I think another thing thats this thats quite pervasive is this sense feel like sense that people feel like theyre same, and that theyre all the same, and that theres not much difference between not between them, and theyre not necessarily sort of necessarily being sort of straightforward it is straightforward about what it is they to do. And i think they want to do. And i think there is a growing sense of there is also a growing sense of that, you know, politicians are saying are saying things which are actually, ironically, given what i focus groups and to sort i do to focus groups and to sort of and of trying to triangulate and guess people were guess around what people were actually know, actually thinking, you know, instead actually leading instead of actually leading people. People can people. And i think people can pick that insincerity. And pick up on that insincerity. And i think thats all part of i think think generally the think i think generally the class of politicians we have today low grade, you today are just so low grade, you know, if you put half of them into company you into a ftse 100 company or, you know, massive corporation, know, in a massive corporation, i think theyd last two i dont think theyd last two minutes. Think theyre i dont think theyre capable. Think most of them capable. I think most of them are very incompetent people. About incompetent. I dont know about not not not only incompetent, but out of touch well. Touch as well. Them on their incompetence. You can pull them on their incompetence. Yeah sure. No. Incompetence. Yeah sure. No, no. I think, though, youre i do think, though, what youre saying is mirrored by an awful lot public. Thats lot of the public. Thats something hear absolutely all something we hear absolutely all the they are quite fed the time. And they are quite fed up the Political Class in up with the Political Class in general. I think, though, that all drives towards all actually just drives towards the fact people are ready the fact that people are ready to as that poll also said, to vote, as that poll also said, quite an election, quite keen for an election, quite keen for an election, quite vote change. Quite want to vote for change. And thats weve seen and thats something weve seen thats to be, you know, thats going to be, you know, a continuing problem rishi continuing problem for rishi sunak, budget. Continuing problem for rishi sun had budget. Continuing problem for rishi sun had the budget. Continuing problem for rishi sunhad the autumn budget. Continuing problem for rishi sunhad the autumn statement we had the autumn statement before wont any before that wont make any difference because people already in minds. Already moved on in their minds. Its interesting isnt it, as you when you say about the you say when you say about the fact that this is so different to 2019, when now in 2024, obviously the main issue that every country dealt with in that time been, covid time has been, the covid pandemic, whatever want to pandemic, whatever you want to call almost the call it. So its almost like the pubuc call it. So its almost like the public let down during that public feel let down during that penod public feel let down during that period time parties, period of time by both parties, regardless of you sat, on regardless of where you sat, on which side of that narrative you felt you sat on. Nobody has come out of that. Well, from labour or conservative. Yeah. I do think that there was no one in particular. I think there was partly because there wasnt much policy difference the two. Difference between the two. Labour they were labour decided that they were going sort of follow the going to sort of follow the conservatives something conservatives and something that, more closely that, you know, more closely resembled of government resembled or sort of government of least in of national unity, at least in the of the the early stages of the pandemic. I think of pandemic. I think its kind of its that also weve seen its that but also weve seen this trend, especially amongst sort democracies, sort of western democracies, that government that whichever government was presiding but presiding over covid, but actually, importantly, actually, more importantly, the covid the time Covid Recovery or the short time Covid Recovery or the short time Covid Recovery or the short time Covid Recovery got a real kicking at the ballot box. And actually, thats something that joe have to joe bidens going to have to deal as well in america, deal with as well in america, something weve seen across something that weve seen across europe. Now rishi sunak is europe. And now rishi sunak is looking can looking at saying, what can sunak will the tories do now to salvage sort election . Salvage some sort of election . Victory, but to, i wont say victory, but to, you to the pain, it you know, to ease the pain, it does look like looking at the polls at least. And know, just and again, you know, just sort of speaking to people, not just groups, but just in focus groups, but anecdotally that the best the tories can do at moment tories can do at the moment is sort of damage limitation and damage them or damage limitation for them or for political i mean, for any political party. I mean, i guess, holding on to your sort of votes your base, of core votes and your base, which theyre not even particularly at the particularly doing at the moment. Why were seeing moment. Thats why were seeing some these shares, like some of these dire shares, like 20 i that 20 of the vote. I mean, that sort existential for them. So sort of existential for them. So they sort of rally they need to sort of rally around those people that are currently they dont currently saying they dont know, vote conservative know, but did vote